Official Ramakanta vs. IRM discussion thread

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Dear Yaduraja Prabhu, PAMHO. AGTSP!

 

 

Currently we are discussing your point b)

 

"Srila Prabhupada never ordered that he should ever stop being the diksa

guru for ISKCON"

 

which is equivalent to

 

"Srila Prabhupada never authorized anyone to be diksa guru".

 

This is statement is unproven.

 

 

> The July 9th order maintained and left intact the status quo you have

> admitted Srila Prabhupada established within ISKCON from 1966. This status

> quo logically remains in place unless you can produce a counter order

> which you admit you cannot. If there is no counter instruction to the GBC

> to terminate this management system then it must remain in place for the

> duration of the institution in which it applies.

 

This is your point c) ("Therefore Srila Prabhupada remains the diksa guru

for ISKCON"). We can discuss it after we have finished your point b).

 

 

> To challenge this status quo, left in place by Srila Prabhupada in 1977

> with apparently no order to terminate it, you then go on to criticise us

> for not knowing anything about an order which we never claim existed, you

> cannot produce, the GBC have never mentioned, is not to be found on folio

> etc etc.

 

On July 12 I wrote:

> You claimed that until today Srila Prabhupada did not authorize anyone to

> be diksa-guru. Therefore, you either exactly know how this authorization

> happens, or Srila Prabhupada said that it did not and will not happen.

> Srila Prabhupada did not say that. So please explain how such an

> authorization happens in Srila Prabhupada's presence and absence.

 

So far you did not explain it. So what is wrong when I state that you don't

know it?

 

And don't forget: Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

 

 

> This argument of yours is crazy, even if you are sane.

 

Is that all what you can say? You cannot refute an argument just by saying

that it is crazy.

 

 

Summary: You claim that Srila Prabhupada never authorized anyone to be diksa

guru, but you don't know how he would have done this. So your claim is

meaningless and unproven.

 

"Just see how rascaldom. You do not know something perfectly, and still, you

are talking about it." (Lecture, Bg 1.45-46, August 1, 1973)

 

 

ys Ramakanta dasa