Why not varnasrama?

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> > > How about first defining WHAT is varnasrama? Then HOW should it be

> > > implemented?

> > >

> > > It is a debatable issue that draws a wide variety of answers to the

> > > above questions.

> >

> > Hare Krishna Prabhus!

> >

> > Humbly I will try to give a answer. Varnasrama is a kind of social

> > organization which include all kind of people according to their

> > professional tendencies (varna) and state of life (asrama), with the

> > goal of reach love for God. The materialist also use it for

> > organization.

> >

> > The purpose of a society or the varnasrama (according to Srila

> > Bhaktivinode Thakura) are to fulfil the four main needs of the sadaka,

> > that is: maintain the body in good health, improving the faculty of

> > mind, promoting social well-being, and learning the science of the Self,

> > all conducive to practice pure devotional service.

> >

> > In your service,

> >

> > Jiva Tattva das

 

 

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> one version of varnasrama being presented is that a group of devotees go

> to the country and set up a village with no electricity and so on .... but

> if it excludes the cities then how can it be varnasrama which is supposed

> to include everyone?

 

My humble opinion is that our ISKCON devotees have a big, big problem, that

is that if they are no qualified brahmanas or take sannyasi, (there are more

exception like the devotees who work in BBT that generally gain a salary and

medical security and others that can dovetail in the temple), they are force

to fulfill their basic familiar necessities in the materialist society, .

However S. Prabhupada advise us: para-upakara means mass benefit, no a

certain section... that means small scale... Then, we have to introduce this

varnasrama... according to Krishna´s instruction, if you want to do it in a

large scale for the benefit of the whole human society"

 

My understanding is that Prabhupada bougth about a dozen of big farms to

start to make our own Society, or organized village, however now are

practically empty, and the devotees along their children and families going

to buy a house to live, with a mortgage for 20 years. I think it´s the

biggest managerial fail in all our ISKCON. Prabhupada will chastise all of

us, from the first to the last devote of ISKCON. Even the karmis at all the

times knowed how to live together, making a church and a village around, now

they do urbanizations, but with the Bank, shops and cinemas in the centre.

 

First to go to try to install the varnasrama in the city, I think we have to

install in our ISKCON, probably we will recover hundred of devotees. "We

will start for our farmsif they see that we are living better that them,

they will feel atract" said Prabhupada.

 

Your servant,

 

Jiva Tattva das