Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 Nice ideas Prabhu, you should do it. No one will object, most will welcome such a research and compilation on varnasrama. There are some very different opinions in papers already written too. As you say, that is the easier part of it - the compilation. The hard part is to extract the essence in a way that is pracitcal and that all (or at least most) will agree with. You have a good setup there and are enthusiastic so move forward on it and Krishna will send the right devotees to bring it to a contributing agreeable conclusion. It will be a great service. > > Will varnasrama naturally fall into place as we expand or do we have to > > give it shape? > > my experience is that nothing naturally falls into place in this world, > rather it naturally goes to decay, so it has to be given shape. There has > to be an educational and training program that facilitates the growth and > development of anything, and along with that there has to be a lot of love > and trust to nurture ourselves to grow and mature. > > Prabhupada's program was all about giving us the knowledge and then > training us how to apply it in our lives and the lives of others. We have > yet to establish very seriously the program of intellectually > understanding the knowledge and then personally living it. Thus our > results have been far from glorious. > > SB 5.1.19 Purport: To maintain proper social order and help the citizens > gradually progress toward the goal of life—namely spiritual > understanding—the principles of varnasrama-dharma must be accepted. From > this verse, Maharaja Priyavrata appears to have been so strict in > maintaining this institution of varnasrama-dharma that anyone neglecting > it would immediately flee from his presence as soon as the King warned him > by fighting or administering light punishment. Indeed, Maharaja Priyavrata > would not have to fight, for simply because of his strong determination, > they dared not disobey the rules and regulations of varnasrama-dharma. It > is said that unless human society is regulated by varnasrama-dharma, it is > no better than a bestial society of cats and dogs. Maharaja Priyavrata, > therefore, strictly maintained varnasrama-dharma by his extraordinary, > unparalleled prowess. > > Prabhupada is really giving us alot of deep insight throughout his books > about the importance of Varnasrama and it's inherent relationship with the > Krsna consciousness movement. > > To compile all the references from Vedabase is the first and easiest work > to do. It really does not take long. Last winter I compiled everything > Prabhupada said in the Bhagavatam, CC and the books that he actually wrote > on the Krsna consciousness movement. The result was over 400 pages, and > it took only 3 months. > > I see there are two more studies to do in order to have the initial > documents to start the serious studying and compiling by a group of > serious and mature devotees. Those are a complete study on varnasrama > (the biggest one to do, I estimate 1000 to 1500 pages) and then the three > modes of material nature and the illusionary energy. > > We should also gather all of the papers written by devotees regarding > Varnasrama, to see how their insights are in line with or differ from our > philosophy. > > your servant > > Visnu Murti das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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