Guest guest Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Are there any somewhat ideal varnasrama examples anywhere in ISKCON? Just simple living and no electricity is not anywhere near complete varnasrama. There is so much more to it than that. The ideal in essence would be all four varnas accommodated in a community to develop in Krishna consciousness. But the devil is in the numerous details. New Vrindavana USA have tried hard, but they had a lot of problems with their sudras (and others too) who could not follow the regulative principles on the property. This gives rise to a crucial question: Is it actually possible to have an ideal varnasrama community of even a few hundred people where they ALL follow ALL the basic regulative principles? From what we see in our society thus far the realistic answer to that is no. Srila Prabhupada said even the sudras have to follow the regulative principles... Do we have any ideal varnasrama examples? If we get just one community right, we just then duplicate everywhere else. > > What is missing is an understanding that varnasrama > > is necesary. > > Here is one answer. > > So many things that were asked by Prabhupada were not complete and likely > will never be. Most of devotees I know do just necessary minimum. > Prabhupada did not start with VA in NY66 and never said it was the > necessary minimum. > > So as the result there always be ones who think it is essential and those > who think it is not. > > First part of the devotees should show by example of working VA that it is > essential and then the rest will accept it as such. Training by example > that is the way Srila Prabhupada wanted to establish VA community say in > Gita nagari. > > However most then likely there always be others who will remain on the > absolute minimum platform that Srila Prabhupada started his mission with > and this minimum already incorporates daivy VA as was developed by Srila > Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati on request of his father, ie brahmana initiation > not by birth but by being a pure vaisnava. > > Another question is still stays: who will provide resources for the > examples of VA. I guess VA should produce resources itself to be > sustainable, another option is to throw man and money on it:-) We had it > in 1974, do we still have it? > > > 5c.- > > ys > CCD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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