Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 It seems avisitor, the Raja of Sivaghar in UP., told Bhagavan that he had surrenderedhimself to Bhagavan and Bhagavan should give him jana. Bhagavan referredto an article on Nama Dev's insistence on the importance of the Lord's name, inthe September 1937 issue of vision, where it is pointed out that onlywhen the `I', the ego, is surrendered the significance of the Lord's name willbe realized, When I entered the hall the story of how `Ashtavakra Gita' came to be taught was being recounted in English, for the benefit of the above Raja and other visitors. After the story was read out, Bhagavan said, "Because Brahmaj nana is not something external,which is somewhere far away where you can go and get it, you cannot say that it will take so long or so short a time to attain it. It is always with you. You are that! The story of `Astavakra Gita' is intended to teach that for getting Brahma jnana all that is necessary to surrender yourself completely to the guru, to surrender your nation of `I' and mine'. If these are surrendered, what remains is the Reality. Then, it becomes impossible to state what further time it would take attain Brahma jnana. It would be wrong to state that it takes as much time as a man would require to put his other foot into the second stirrup after having placed one foot in the first stirrup. The moment when ego is completely surrendered, the self shines," Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Proceedings, Bhagavan quoted the last two lines of the following stanza from "Yoga Vasishta" : "Naaneum poruLkaa n>aatoor Naanavaa kaayang kaan>aar. Naaneum poruLaik kan>door Naanavaa kaaya maavaarj Naanenu makangkaarangkaL Naanavin>matiyaimuudi naanenap parama vaampana malara viriyaatanRee." Which state that unless the cloud of the `I' or `ego' –sense which covers the moon of the Divine consciousness (chidakasa) is removed, the lily of the heart which knows nothing of the sense of `I' (ahankara) will not open out in full bloom. Bhagavan also added, "We have to contend against age-long samskaras. They will all go. Only, they go comparatively soon in the case of those who have already made sadhana in the past, and late in the case of the others." In this connection I asked, "Do those samskaras go gradually or will they suddenly disappear one day? I ask this, because though I have remained fairly long here I do not perceive any gradual change in me." Bhagavan asked, "When the sun rises, does the darkness go gradually or all at once?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 Another visitor asked, "How to conquer passions?" Bhagavan said, "If the passions are something external to us we can take arms and ammunition and conquer them. They all come from within us. If, by looking into the source whence they issue, we see that they don't come out of us, we shall conquer them. It is the world and the objects in it that arouse our passions. But the world and these objects are only created by our mind. They don't exist during our sleep." After all this talk Bhagavan drank a little water from his kamandalam and turning to his attendant enquired whether he had already drunk water (i.e., after he returned to the hall about 3-30 P.M) The attendant said `yes', and thereupon Bhagavan said he had forgotten it, and to make sure he drank some again. He further added, almost in an unguarded moment, as he rarely gives expression so such experiences of his, that sometimes he does not even know whether it is morning, mid-day or evening and has to look at the clock and try to remember before he knows what time or day it is. On one occasion, he has told me that he scratched his skin, where there was eczema once, as we scratch during sleep. And once when I was concerned over some physical pain of his, he told me he feels that pain `kanaakkaNdaaRpool' , i.e., it was a passing and faint experience like that in a dream. These are clues to the sort of life Bhagavan leads in our midst, seeming to act and move and feel as we do, but really living in a world of his own where the things we experience doesn't exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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