Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 an ocean filled up with many drops... is like a world filled up with many beings.... maybe the energy which let all this drops....be the ocean... is like the energy which let all beings in the world be united....and One.... this energy exist through....everybody/everything... the question maybe is not....in how one can could "share" this energy.... but the question would be...in how to be/come aware of It...and feel It....and also be It.... .....just like everyone/everything....is It already.... few words.... thanks for corrections... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 Namaste Marc-ji The example of on ocean and the waves was something that Swami Chinmayananda-ji used to quote very often - I think it was perhaps very close to his heart. The reality of the ocean is the water. It is only water that pervades every inch of the ocean. Every individual wave in this Ocean is water. The waves are as beginingless as the ocean and as the water. From the standpoint of the water there is neither ocean nor waves. If there ever was a time in the past or future when the ocean had no waves it was still constututed of only water, and all these waves were in potential form. From the standpoint of each wave it is limited on account of a notional identification with its "present" name and form as a limited wave - it is born it will die, it has limitations of space - it is small, big, etc etc But once it is established in the knowledge that "i am this water" then its understanding instantaneously crystallizes into knowledge of the whole ocean. "nothing in the ocean can be anything but me - the water. In fact there is now truly no ocean there is only water.I am the susbtratum that hold these millions of waves together and I am also the millions of waves. I alone am." So one need not in this example introduce a concept of energy separate from the ocean or the drops - the water that verily constitutes the ocean itself is the susbtratum, and the water exists through everything in the ocean and then like you rightly say there is no reason to "share it" - once the wave knows it is water, it realizes its own true self. Pranams Shyam advaitin, "dennis_travis33" <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > > > an ocean filled up with many drops... > is like a world filled up with many beings.... > > > maybe the energy which let all this drops....be the ocean... > is like the energy which let all beings in the world be united....and > One.... > > this energy exist through....everybody/everything... > > the question maybe is not....in how one can could "share" this > energy.... > but the question would be...in how to be/come aware of It...and feel > It....and also be It.... > > ....just like everyone/everything....is It already.... > > > few words.... > > thanks for corrections... > > Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 advaitin, "shyam_md" <shyam_md wrote: > >> > "........................So one need not in this example introduce a concept of energy > separate from the ocean or the drops - the water that verily > constitutes the ocean itself is the susbtratum, and the water exists > through everything in the ocean and then like you rightly say there > is no reason to "share it" - once the wave knows it is water, it > realizes its own true self." > > Pranams > Shyam Namaste Shyam, thank you for your message.... yes.... it's about identification..... when the identification is the only true identification.... means "water"..... then there is nobody anymore there....to "share" It... it take some "waves" ...of "movements"....of "experiences"....."transformation " and some time too..... to realy "understand" It but when there is "understanding"....then the identity "who" made all this "experiences".....appear to have never realy existed.... like it has been a nice dream..... until true identification.... when there is nothing anymore but "water".... the world which is filled up with/by/from "other" identities..... dissolve, kind of....for the identity of "water".... "other" identities.....can't see "water"....within the whole ocean..... and often are busy with many "other" waves....many "other" drops..... many "other" movements.....many "other" experiences...... means...with the world few thoughts.... Marc >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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