Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Namaste, dear Vedantins! I have got one - very important for me - question, but still noone answered. So, What is the REAL difference between Avyakta Para-Brahman and Avyakta prakriti-shakti in their state of pralaya? I know, we have in Gita (8.20.) etc. as follows: "But distinct from that Avyakta (prakriti) is the other Eternal Avyakta Reality (Brahman)" etc., but there are the words only... The words are shunya. I suppose now that Brahman and prakriti-shakti-maya are the same, and therefore there is no Liberation from samsara... Such questions may be cleared in meditation, but is there a verbal answer to it? Regards, miksmov. Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 --- Mik Smov <miksmov (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > Namaste, dear Vedantins! > > I have got one - very important for me - question, but still noone answered. > > So, > What is the REAL difference between Avyakta Para-Brahman and Avyakta prakriti-shakti in their > state of pralaya? Shree Mik Smov, Some of these questions will be answered when we come to the analysis of deep sleep state in ManDukya. Before you can answer the question you are posing, let us ask a simper question - Now when you go deep sleep state, what is the REAL difference between you the sleeper and the phenomenal world of dream subjects and objects you had projected in your dream and now resolved into you as deep sleeper. Please think about it. If you can answer that you can answer your question. Individual sleep is laya and sleep of Iswara is pralaya. >From parabrahman (prAtibhAsika satya) there is no laya or pralaya - He is eternally present without any modifications or states or without any second. Hari OM! Sadananda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 advaitin, Mik Smov <miksmov wrote: > > Namaste, dear Vedantins! > > I have got one - very important for me - question, but still noone answered. > > So, > What is the REAL difference between Avyakta Para-Brahman and Avyakta prakriti-shakti in their state of pralaya? > > I know, we have in Gita (8.20.) etc. as follows: > "But distinct from that Avyakta (prakriti) is the other Eternal Avyakta Reality (Brahman)" etc., but there are the words only... The words are shunya. > I suppose now that Brahman and prakriti-shakti-maya are the same, and therefore there is no Liberation from samsara... > > Such questions may be cleared in meditation, but is there a verbal answer to it? > > Regards, > miksmov. Namaste, The REAL difference between Para-Brahman which is termed 'Avyakta' in the verse Gita (8.20)and the Prakriti which is also avyakta is this: Para-Brahman is termed Avyakta because it is not available to the senses. That which is available for sense perception is vyakta, manifest. Since Para-Brahman is beyond the ken of the senses being bereft of form, ( colour), taste, touch, smell and sound, It is termed avyakta. Para-Brahman does not perish even when the Creator Brahmaa and others perish in pralaya. Prakriti (Shakti) is called avyakta because, in seed form, in nascent form, in resolved form, in causal state, it is not available for our experience through the senses or the mind. It is the unmanifest state of the universe which will become manifest upon the next creation (or waking). This is a condition which is having a potential duality, although in pralaya it is in a state of non- duality which is only a condition of withdrawn-duality. The seed of Ignorance is present here. This state is just waiting to burst forth into the variegated manifest universe upon waking. It is a sleep state. It could be compared to an egg of a peacock. Seeing an egg, or even upon breaking it, we cannot perceive the beautiful colours of the peacock feathers, the glow, etc. It is just a mass of flesh. Upon hatching from the egg, the peacock grows manifesting its plumage in all grandeur. This is the vyakta state, manifest state, of the egg. Thus, the Prakriti is in an unmanifest, avyakta state, in pralaya. Para-brahman does not contain this seed called ignorance. It is free from any taint of duality, either in its manifest form or unmanifest form. Para-Brahman transcends duality - both manifest and unmanifest. It is the direct realization of this Avyakta Para- brahman that constitutes Moksha from samsara. The Avyakta Prakriti is still samsara, only in a seed form. Thus, in the light of the above clarification, it could be seen that the two, Avyakta Para-Brahman and Avyakta Prakriti are decidedly different from each other and they are NOT THE SAME. Hence, there is definitely Liberation from samsara. The epithet 'avyakta' to Para- brahman could have caused the confusion. It could give rise to a doubt about the existence of a vyakta Para Brahman. Such is not the case. As explained earlier, the word avyakta was used along with Para Brahman only to denote that It is not available for sense perception. As hinted by Sri Sadananda ji, Para-Brahman is the Turiya whereas the avyakta Prakriti is the Cosmic Ishwara of the Mandukya Upanishat. Regards, subbu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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