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Namaste, dear Vedantins!

I have got one - very important for me - question, but still noone answered.

So,

What is the REAL difference between Avyakta Para-Brahman and Avyakta prakriti-shakti in their state of pralaya?

I know, we have in Gita (8.20.) etc. as follows:

"But distinct from that Avyakta (prakriti) is the other Eternal Avyakta Reality (Brahman)" etc., but there are the words only... The words are shunya.

I suppose now that Brahman and prakriti-shakti-maya are the same, and therefore there is no Liberation from samsara...

Such questions may be cleared in meditation, but is there a verbal answer to it?

Regards,

miksmov.

 

 

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--- Mik Smov <miksmov (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

 

> Namaste, dear Vedantins!

>

> I have got one - very important for me - question, but still noone answered.

>

> So,

> What is the REAL difference between Avyakta Para-Brahman and Avyakta prakriti-shakti in their

> state of pralaya?

Shree Mik Smov,

 

Some of these questions will be answered when we come to the analysis of deep sleep state in

ManDukya.

 

Before you can answer the question you are posing, let us ask a simper question - Now when you go

deep sleep state, what is the REAL difference between you the sleeper and the phenomenal world of

dream subjects and objects you had projected in your dream and now resolved into you as deep

sleeper. Please think about it. If you can answer that you can answer your question. Individual

sleep is laya and sleep of Iswara is pralaya.

 

>From parabrahman (prAtibhAsika satya) there is no laya or pralaya - He is eternally present

without any modifications or states or without any second.

 

Hari OM!

Sadananda

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advaitin, Mik Smov <miksmov wrote:

>

> Namaste, dear Vedantins!

>

> I have got one - very important for me - question, but still

noone answered.

>

> So,

> What is the REAL difference between Avyakta Para-Brahman and

Avyakta prakriti-shakti in their state of pralaya?

>

> I know, we have in Gita (8.20.) etc. as follows:

> "But distinct from that Avyakta (prakriti) is the other Eternal

Avyakta Reality (Brahman)" etc., but there are the words only... The

words are shunya.

> I suppose now that Brahman and prakriti-shakti-maya are the same,

and therefore there is no Liberation from samsara...

>

> Such questions may be cleared in meditation, but is there a

verbal answer to it?

>

> Regards,

> miksmov.

 

 

Namaste,

 

The REAL difference between Para-Brahman which is termed 'Avyakta' in

the verse Gita (8.20)and the Prakriti which is also avyakta is this:

 

Para-Brahman is termed Avyakta because it is not available to the

senses. That which is available for sense perception is vyakta,

manifest. Since Para-Brahman is beyond the ken of the senses being

bereft of form, ( colour), taste, touch, smell and sound, It is

termed avyakta. Para-Brahman does not perish even when the Creator

Brahmaa and others perish in pralaya.

 

Prakriti (Shakti) is called avyakta because, in seed form, in nascent

form, in resolved form, in causal state, it is not available for our

experience through the senses or the mind. It is the unmanifest

state of the universe which will become manifest upon the next

creation (or waking). This is a condition which is having a

potential duality, although in pralaya it is in a state of non-

duality which is only a condition of withdrawn-duality. The seed of

Ignorance is present here. This state is just waiting to burst forth

into the variegated manifest universe upon waking. It is a sleep

state. It could be compared to an egg of a peacock. Seeing an egg,

or even upon breaking it, we cannot perceive the beautiful colours of

the peacock feathers, the glow, etc. It is just a mass of flesh.

Upon hatching from the egg, the peacock grows manifesting its plumage

in all grandeur. This is the vyakta state, manifest state, of the

egg. Thus, the Prakriti is in an unmanifest, avyakta state, in

pralaya.

 

Para-brahman does not contain this seed called ignorance. It is free

from any taint of duality, either in its manifest form or unmanifest

form. Para-Brahman transcends duality - both manifest and

unmanifest. It is the direct realization of this Avyakta Para-

brahman that constitutes Moksha from samsara.

 

The Avyakta Prakriti is still samsara, only in a seed form.

 

Thus, in the light of the above clarification, it could be seen that

the two, Avyakta Para-Brahman and Avyakta Prakriti are decidedly

different from each other and they are NOT THE SAME. Hence, there is

definitely Liberation from samsara. The epithet 'avyakta' to Para-

brahman could have caused the confusion. It could give rise to a

doubt about the existence of a vyakta Para Brahman. Such is not the

case. As explained earlier, the word avyakta was used along with

Para Brahman only to denote that It is not available for sense

perception.

 

As hinted by Sri Sadananda ji, Para-Brahman is the Turiya whereas the

avyakta Prakriti is the Cosmic Ishwara of the Mandukya Upanishat.

 

Regards,

subbu

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