Guest guest Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 subrahmanian_v <subrahmanian_v > wrote: advaitin, "lakmuthu" <lakmuthu wrote: > > Subbji Wrote, > > "It is inevitable for a Jnani to be amidst objects during his non- > samadhi times." > > Namaste Subbuji, > > Is there a time when jnAni is not in samAdhi? > > Is'nt kAla(time) also a myth? according to English language. > > mithya according to vedAnta? > > Is'nt living a meditation for a j~nani? ( Request to the moderator. You may not publish this if you do not find this ok for the group) Namaskar, I do not know whether writing own experience will be proper, but I think submitting this true story here would help me explaining my opinion on the subject "Jnani and Samadhi." (I beg pardon of the members who do not believe in miraculous happenings, like guidance from the unknown). I was understanding that my Guru was in Samadhi, when the other disciples were thinking that he was lying on the bed in unconscious condition and awaiting him to breath last. I started reading Kathopnishad (Marathi Translation) sitting near his feet and resisting tears in my eyes with great difficulty. I could clearly see on his face the deem smile of contentment and the light of the Brahmajnan when the others gathered in hundreds were anxious about his precarious condition of health.His age was 113 years. The senior doctors present there had given their opinion that "we have checked up thoroughly, and we don't find any reason of his bad health except his very old age". I read the last sloka of Kathopanishada and then loudly recited Shanti Mantra. Exactly when I read the last letter of the word "Shanti", there was movement in the bed. I saw his right hand raised for a moment (though unconscious) as if he was offering (Aashirwad) blessings, Bhava of KritKritya ( happiness of fulfillment in life) on his face, and next moment the bed became quiet though the hall was full of echoes of loud cries of men and women. A few days before his samadhi, he had proclaimed that I (the present writer) will be descending him (Uttaradhikari). I was hundred per cent sure that I would not be able to occupy the chair of my Guru in my next hundred births,but at the same time feeling that I was not really related to my past life. Almost all the disciples and devotees of my Guru, had unanimously decided to keep me away from the trust formed by them, though they had always shown love and respect for me. This was in defiance of the orders of Guru, but it is said " Gahan is the Gati of Prakriti". (I can't translate this in English). I really do not know why I went to Baroda, (Gujrath). I started a small Ashram there. I used to get lot of unsual experiences almost daily and I would be very happy. I was not doing any "Sadhana" there, because it had no use for me.One day a lady had come early morning with her son (10). She told me that her son was not studying and was spending more time with friends and on the TV. I advised her something and gave her a book of prayers. After she went, I remained sitting on the chair till I suddenly heard the words " A saint is waiting for you". I was awake. I saw in the watch; it was 12 noon. The lady with her son had left at about 9 am. I did not know what happened during these three hours, but the words that broke my concentration was a subject of anxiety for me, " A saint is waiting for you". In fact I knew about my condition, but I was more interested in instant Samadhi. I was always remembering the words those I had read in the biography of Hon. Ramkrishna Paramhansa, that he used to enter Samadhi in few minutes after he would sit anywhere, and desired. There was absolutely no program for me at Baroda and honestly I was doing nothing except to pass time by attending the visitors, and sometimes playing with the computer. I however, always liked to be alone. But those sudden words which whispered in my ears " A saint is waiting for you" had made me almost restless that day. I was sure that I had heard the words very clearly, but no body was there in my room. My mind suddenly arrived at the decision that I must leave that place and should find out 'the saint' who was waiting for me. But where should I go? Who was really waiting for me and where ? What was his (saint's) name, who will tell me? Honestly, I had only about 200 Rupees (about 4 dollors) with me and it was impossible for me to leave Ashram till I get some remittance from my son. I would never ask for money to visitors. I thought that those words, "A saint is waiting for you" must be a order of Antaryami (inner spirit) which my "ear organs" experienced and I should quit without spending much time. I saw at the photo of my Guru kept in the room. Surprisingly, I found a Rs.500 currency note there. I understood that the lady who came to me in the morning must have kept those money there. I put the note in my packet. Thought for a minute, then I immediately put a half-shirt and Pajama in a polythene bag, locked the Ashram and walked on the road. I did not know the direction. I then thought that if it was really an order of "Antaryami" I would surely get a direction. I went to a Auto Rickshaw stand and asked him to take me to Bus stand. The words were humming in ears " A saint is waiting for you" When I got down from Rickshaw I saw a few persons rushing to a bus with roaring sound of engine and all other spare parts in austere harmony, waiting outside the bus stand. Without caring for where the bus was going I boarded the bus. I was confident that I had 700 Rupees in my packet, and I would be able to travel at least 500 kilometers in India. I am not able to describe in words as to how I was surprisingly delighted when I came to know that the bus was destined to Garudeshwar and the cost of ticket was only Rs 45. The reason of my joy was not the cost, but Garudeshwar was on the bank of Narmada river on the banks of which many great saints had achieved the Vairagya, Tapasya and Atmajnan including our extremely beloved Jagagtguru Hon. Bhagwan Shankaracharya. The places on the bank might be different but same was Rewa. One more reason I was delighted was, the samadhi of my grand guru Vasudevanand Saraswati (Tembe Shastri) was at Garudeshwar. I reached Garudeshwar in the evening and I was almost sure that my Antaryami was right and really a saint would be waiting for me. I booked a lodging room for Rs.30 ( 75 cents) for a night. Spent time on the bank of Narmada river, had a holy bath and then I was sitting before samadhi of Vasudevanand Saraswati till 1.00 a.m. No saint came to meet me. I had made several inquiries, as to whether any saint was there or had arrived recently there, but "No" was the reply from all those whom I asked. It was a night in the month of June. Non stop sweating, attacks of the mosquitos in the mixed-odor -room without a fan and sleeping on the floor with only a underpant on the body was a pleasing experience. In the morning I thought that the words I heard," A saint is waiting for you" was an illusion or my own thoughts and once again confirmed the conclusion about myself that I was a greatest fool, before I started ny return journey. I came to bus stop and was waiting for the bus to go back to Baroda. I saw and herd a passenger talking to one Auto Rickshaw driver about a saint. Probably their negotiations about the fares failed, and the driver was alone. I asked him who was the saint about whom they were talking. He told me that he did not knew the name, but a saint was there on the banks of Narmada who did not speak a single word in last 20 years. "Is he the same saint waiting for me" thought my mind, and quickly I occupied a seat in his Auto Rickshaw, asking him to take me to that saint. Auto Rickshaw-wala asked me that he would charge me Rs 200 for to and fro journey. I laughed with thought in my mind that the foolish person did not know that I had sufficient money to go back to Ashram, even after paying him fares without negotiations. Probably he had thought looking at my ugly face and clothes that I had no money. During my short journey in Auto Rickshaw I had understood that at last, I had come to a proper place. I entered a lonely Ashram very close to Narmada bank, and a Yogi whoes age could not be determined greeted me with smile as if he was waiting for me. I remembered and thanked my "Antaryami" Rupa. I became cent percent assured that he was the same saint waiting for me, with the help of some inner prompts. I was really in heaven. I do not remember how many days I stayed with that great saint. He would never sleep and remain with a single cloth on his person. He would daily cook food for me once a day only. He would take me to bath in Narmada (he) without wearing clothes.He did not speak to me a single word, because he was observing the austerity of not-speaking since 20 years, but we were surely exchanging our thoughts and experience. We lived to gether as if we were friends since the time unknown. I am sure that Brahma, Vishnu and Mahesh would be jealous of you if you get a chance to live with a saint (true) becasue the words "saint" and "happiness" are nothing but synonyms. After few days, I was thinking that the words I heard "a saint is wainting for you" became absolutely true; but what was the purpose of that meeting ? The question in my mind was replied. The saint was visited by number of people. He used to take a paper-piece and write something for their guidance. When I left his Ashram, a Sevak ( person in the service of Guru) handed over me a piece of paper when I sat in Auto Rickshaw that was taking me back to Garudeshwara. I unfolded the paper and read the words when I saw the saint waving his dumb hands at me. What was written on paper was a guidance to me on my perplexity over the thought of quick Samadhi like hon. Ramkrishna Paramhansa. Those few words are also message and true guidance for the list members who really want to understand "jnAni and samAdhi". The brief message of the saint spoke lot of things to me and shall speak to you also. Please look at that piece of papers (2) by clicking the following link. http://www.sugway.com/saint-message.html I hope the learned members would not need any more explanation to the words written by that saint. 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Guest guest Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Shree Anilji - SaShTanga praNAms to you for sharing your intense personal experience with us. We do not know the misteries of the Lord and his Leelas - All we can do is just surrender to his infinite intelligence and bask in His beauty and wonderful manifestations. Adviata is not for away from dvaita only by a letter 'a'. Let us enjoy His play. My PraNams to you again Hari Om! Sadananda _______________ Try Live.com - your fast, personalized homepage with all the things you care about in one place. http://www.live.com/getstarted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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