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subrahmanian_v <subrahmanian_v > wrote: advaitin, "lakmuthu" <lakmuthu wrote:

>

> Subbji Wrote,

>

> "It is inevitable for a Jnani to be amidst objects during his non-

> samadhi times."

>

> Namaste Subbuji,

>

> Is there a time when jnAni is not in samAdhi?

>

> Is'nt kAla(time) also a myth? according to English language.

>

> mithya according to vedAnta?

>

> Is'nt living a meditation for a j~nani?

 

 

 

 

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Namaskar,

I do not know whether writing own experience will be proper,

but I think submitting this true story here would help me

explaining my opinion on the subject "Jnani and Samadhi."

(I beg pardon of the members who do not believe in

miraculous happenings, like guidance from the unknown).

I was understanding that my Guru was in Samadhi, when

the other disciples were thinking that he was lying on the

bed in unconscious condition and awaiting him to breath

last. I started reading Kathopnishad (Marathi Translation)

sitting near his feet and resisting tears in my eyes with

great difficulty. I could clearly see on his face the deem

smile of contentment and the light of the Brahmajnan when

the others gathered in hundreds were anxious about his

precarious condition of health.His age was 113 years. The

senior doctors present there had given their opinion that "we

have checked up thoroughly, and we don't find any reason

of his bad health except his very old age". I read the last sloka

of Kathopanishada and then loudly recited Shanti Mantra.

Exactly when I read the last letter of the word "Shanti", there

was movement in the bed. I saw his right hand raised for a

moment (though unconscious) as if he was offering (Aashirwad)

blessings, Bhava of KritKritya ( happiness of fulfillment in life)

on his face, and next moment the bed became quiet

though the hall was full of echoes of loud cries of men and

women.

A few days before his samadhi, he had proclaimed that I

(the present writer) will be descending him (Uttaradhikari).

I was hundred per cent sure that I would not be able to occupy

the chair of my Guru in my next hundred births,but at the

same time feeling that I was not really related to my past life.

Almost all the disciples and devotees of my Guru, had

unanimously decided to keep me away from the trust formed

by them, though they had always shown love and respect for

me. This was in defiance of the orders of Guru, but it is said

" Gahan is the Gati of Prakriti". (I can't translate this in English).

I really do not know why I went to Baroda, (Gujrath). I started

a small Ashram there. I used to get lot of unsual experiences

almost daily and I would be very happy. I was not doing any

"Sadhana" there, because it had no use for me.One day a

lady had come early morning with her son (10). She told me

that her son was not studying and was spending more time

with friends and on the TV. I advised her something and gave

her a book of prayers. After she went, I remained sitting on

the chair till I suddenly heard the words " A saint is waiting for

you". I was awake. I saw in the watch; it was 12 noon. The

lady with her son had left at about 9 am. I did not know what

happened during these three hours, but the words that broke

my concentration was a subject of anxiety for me, " A saint is

waiting for you".

In fact I knew about my condition, but I was more interested

in instant Samadhi. I was always remembering the words those

I had read in the biography of Hon. Ramkrishna Paramhansa,

that he used to enter Samadhi in few minutes after he would sit

anywhere, and desired. There was absolutely no program for me

at Baroda and honestly I was doing nothing except to pass time

by attending the visitors, and sometimes playing with the

computer. I however, always liked to be alone. But those sudden

words which whispered in my ears " A saint is waiting for you"

had made me almost restless that day. I was sure that I had

heard the words very clearly, but no body was there in my room.

My mind suddenly arrived at the decision that I must leave that

place and should find out 'the saint' who was waiting for me.

But where should I go? Who was really waiting for me and

where ? What was his (saint's) name, who will tell me? Honestly,

I had only about 200 Rupees (about 4 dollors) with me and

it was impossible for me to leave Ashram till I get some remittance

from my son. I would never ask for money to visitors. I thought

that those words, "A saint is waiting for you" must be a order of

Antaryami (inner spirit) which my "ear organs" experienced and

I should quit without spending much time.

I saw at the photo of my Guru kept in the room. Surprisingly,

I found a Rs.500 currency note there. I understood that the

lady who came to me in the morning must have kept those money

there. I put the note in my packet. Thought for a minute, then

I immediately put a half-shirt and Pajama in a polythene bag,

locked the Ashram and walked on the road. I did not know the

direction. I then thought that if it was really an order of

"Antaryami" I would surely get a direction. I went to a Auto

Rickshaw stand and asked him to take me to Bus stand.

The words were humming in ears " A saint is waiting for you"

When I got down from Rickshaw I saw a few persons rushing to

a bus with roaring sound of engine and all other spare parts in

austere harmony, waiting outside the bus stand. Without

caring for where the bus was going I boarded the bus. I was

confident that I had 700 Rupees in my packet, and I would be

able to travel at least 500 kilometers in India.

I am not able to describe in words as to how I was surprisingly

delighted when I came to know that the bus was destined to

Garudeshwar and the cost of ticket was only Rs 45. The reason

of my joy was not the cost, but Garudeshwar was on the bank

of Narmada river on the banks of which many great saints had

achieved the Vairagya, Tapasya and Atmajnan including our

extremely beloved Jagagtguru Hon. Bhagwan Shankaracharya.

The places on the bank might be different but same was Rewa.

One more reason I was delighted was, the samadhi of my grand

guru Vasudevanand Saraswati (Tembe Shastri) was at

Garudeshwar. I reached Garudeshwar in the evening and I was

almost sure that my Antaryami was right and really a saint

would be waiting for me. I booked a lodging room for Rs.30

( 75 cents) for a night. Spent time on the bank of Narmada river,

had a holy bath and then I was sitting before samadhi of

Vasudevanand Saraswati till 1.00 a.m. No saint came to meet

me. I had made several inquiries, as to whether any saint was

there or had arrived recently there, but "No" was the reply from

all those whom I asked. It was a night in the month of June.

Non stop sweating, attacks of the mosquitos in the mixed-odor

-room without a fan and sleeping on the floor with only a

underpant on the body was a pleasing experience.

In the morning I thought that the words I heard," A saint is

waiting for you" was an illusion or my own thoughts and

once again confirmed the conclusion about myself that I

was a greatest fool, before I started ny return journey. I

came to bus stop and was waiting for the bus to go back

to Baroda. I saw and herd a passenger talking to one Auto

Rickshaw driver about a saint. Probably their negotiations

about the fares failed, and the driver was alone. I asked

him who was the saint about whom they were talking. He

told me that he did not knew the name, but a saint was

there on the banks of Narmada who did not speak a single

word in last 20 years. "Is he the same saint waiting for me"

thought my mind, and quickly I occupied a seat

in his Auto Rickshaw, asking him to take me to that saint.

Auto Rickshaw-wala asked me that he would charge me

Rs 200 for to and fro journey. I laughed with thought in my

mind that the foolish person did not know that I had

sufficient money to go back to Ashram, even after paying

him fares without negotiations. Probably he had thought

looking at my ugly face and clothes that I had no money.

During my short journey in Auto Rickshaw I had understood

that at last, I had come to a proper place. I entered a

lonely Ashram very close to Narmada bank, and a Yogi whoes

age could not be determined greeted me with smile as if

he was waiting for me. I remembered and thanked my

"Antaryami" Rupa. I became cent percent assured that he

was the same saint waiting for me, with the help of some inner

prompts. I was really in heaven. I do not remember how many

days I stayed with that great saint. He would never sleep

and remain with a single cloth on his person. He would

daily cook food for me once a day only. He would take me

to bath in Narmada (he) without wearing clothes.He did

not speak to me a single word, because he was observing

the austerity of not-speaking since 20 years, but we were

surely exchanging our thoughts and experience. We

lived to gether as if we were friends since the time unknown.

I am sure that Brahma, Vishnu and Mahesh would be

jealous of you if you get a chance to live with a saint (true)

becasue the words "saint" and "happiness" are

nothing but synonyms.

After few days, I was thinking that the words I heard

"a saint is wainting for you" became absolutely true; but

what was the purpose of that meeting ? The question in

my mind was replied. The saint was visited by number

of people. He used to take a paper-piece and write

something for their guidance. When I left his Ashram,

a Sevak ( person in the service of Guru) handed over

me a piece of paper when I sat in Auto Rickshaw that

was taking me back to Garudeshwara. I unfolded the

paper and read the words when I saw the saint waving his

dumb hands at me.

What was written on paper was a guidance to me on

my perplexity over the thought of quick Samadhi like hon.

Ramkrishna Paramhansa. Those few words are

also message and true guidance for the list members who

really want to understand "jnAni and samAdhi".

The brief message of the saint spoke lot of things to me

and shall speak to you also.

Please look at that piece of papers (2) by clicking the

following link.

http://www.sugway.com/saint-message.html

I hope the learned members would not need any more

explanation to the words written by that saint.

Aniljee

http://www.sugway.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Shree Anilji - SaShTanga praNAms to you for sharing your intense personal experience with us. We do not know the misteries of the Lord and his Leelas - All we can do is just surrender to his infinite intelligence and bask in His beauty and wonderful manifestations. Adviata is not for away from dvaita only by a letter 'a'. Let us enjoy His play.

 

My PraNams to you again

 

Hari Om!

Sadananda

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