Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Hari Hara Om Would like to pose another question to this esteemed group. Was reading a article the other day on the Shaligram Tirtha Pradarshini Website. It said that 1 was an auspicious number of shaligrama to worship. It was inauspicious to have 2 or 3. That after having one, a person should worship an even number of shilas starting with 4.. Just didn't make sense to me. How can finding ANY number of shaligram shila in one's life can that be inauspicious ?? Would like to know others' opinions.. Many Thanks and Maha Pranamas. Ariel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Hari Om! Hari Om Tat Sat! Dear Shri Ariel Krishna! please accept my respectful pranams! namaste! Yes what you read in Sri Jaya Tirtha Charan Dasan's web site is very true. It is as per Shaligrama Gosha and per Vaishnavas. It is like the legs of a chair, either 1 in the bindu or another 3 to support all corners. This numbering applies to Sri Sri Sri Narmadeshwar Shiva Lingams as well. This applies to Sri Surya Narayana Shaligramas also. My-self initially started wondering why all this number game but then Sri Jaya Tirtha Swamy awakened my-self which started with four, now it is around 150 and 12 Sri Parameshwar Shiva Lingams. Finally HE teaches "ONE TO MANY....MANY TO ONE....TO THE BINDU" This what my-self awakend through Sri Krishna Bindu from Australia. Do not worry Sri Krishna, proceed do not ask why to HIM? it is better to listen than ponder for no one understands WHY HE does these? Hari, Hreeem, Hara! Haribol, pradeep Subham Dianam Astu! Sarvam Sri Krishna Arpanam Astu! Ariel <kamael9 > wrote: Hari Hara Om Would like to pose another question to this esteemed group. Was reading a article the other day on the Shaligram Tirtha Pradarshini Website. It said that 1 was an auspicious number of shaligrama to worship. It was inauspicious to have 2 or 3. That after having one, a person should worship an even number of shilas starting with 4.. Just didn't make sense to me. How can finding ANY number of shaligram shila in one's life can that be inauspicious ?? Would like to know others' opinions.. Many Thanks and Maha Pranamas. Ariel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 We have all heard about rules in this regard. My question is why worship MORE than one Shalagram? Ekameva dvitya nasti. ONE is the really perfect number of Shalagram Shila. Best wishes, Richard sacred-objects, "Ariel" <kamael9 wrote: > > Hari Hara Om > > Would like to pose another question to this esteemed group. > > Was reading a article the other day on the Shaligram Tirtha > Pradarshini Website. > > It said that 1 was an auspicious number of shaligrama to worship. > > It was inauspicious to have 2 or 3. > > That after having one, a person should worship an even number of > shilas starting with 4.. > > Just didn't make sense to me. > > How can finding ANY number of shaligram shila in one's life can that > be inauspicious ?? > > Would like to know others' opinions.. > > Many Thanks and Maha Pranamas. > > Ariel > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 With all due respect to what you are saying, only one is fine for some, and for some, they would like to worship many salagrams, as there are many manifestations of Lord Krishna. Nevertheless, if some have this practice, we must not cast aspersions, as everyone has differing moods sentiments etc, associated with various pastimes, tadiyas, etc., of the Lord. Respectfully, we cannot say "only one is good for all". What is good for some, is not good for others. This desire to worship many salagrams is a manifestation of the jiva's naturally greedy desire to attain bhakti, render service to, and return to the constitutional position of being eternal servitor of Lord Sri Krishna. Thus, this practice should be understood. JANARDANA DASA Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 > wrote: We have all heard about rules in this regard. My question is why worship MORE than one Shalagram? Ekameva dvitya nasti. ONE is the really perfect number of Shalagram Shila. Best wishes, Richard sacred-objects, "Ariel" <kamael9 wrote: > > Hari Hara Om > > Would like to pose another question to this esteemed group. > > Was reading a article the other day on the Shaligram Tirtha > Pradarshini Website. > > It said that 1 was an auspicious number of shaligrama to worship. > > It was inauspicious to have 2 or 3. > > That after having one, a person should worship an even number of > shilas starting with 4.. > > Just didn't make sense to me. > > How can finding ANY number of shaligram shila in one's life can that > be inauspicious ?? > > Would like to know others' opinions.. > > Many Thanks and Maha Pranamas. > > Ariel > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Dear Richardji and Mr. Pradeep: Thank you both for your insights. Your words are very thought provoking and worth pondering. With kind regards, Ariel sacred-objects, "Richard Shaw-Brown" <rsbj66 wrote: > > We have all heard about rules in this regard. My question is why > worship MORE than one Shalagram? Ekameva dvitya nasti. ONE is the > really perfect number of Shalagram Shila. > > Best wishes, > Richard > > sacred-objects, "Ariel" <kamael9@> wrote: > > > > Hari Hara Om > > > > Would like to pose another question to this esteemed group. > > > > Was reading a article the other day on the Shaligram Tirtha > > Pradarshini Website. > > > > It said that 1 was an auspicious number of shaligrama to worship. > > > > It was inauspicious to have 2 or 3. > > > > That after having one, a person should worship an even number of > > shilas starting with 4.. > > > > Just didn't make sense to me. > > > > How can finding ANY number of shaligram shila in one's life can that > > be inauspicious ?? > > > > Would like to know others' opinions.. > > > > Many Thanks and Maha Pranamas. > > > > Ariel > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Richard, I have a question. A few years ago I helped a devotee from the gaudiya vaishnava faith obtain some Shalagram Shilas from Nepal. You could say I was responsible that he got them. Some time ago when I spoke with him and asked how his worship is going, I got some indications that signalled to me he is worshipping them anymore or taking care of them nicely. I want to know if there is any negative karma involved on my part with this and if I should take steps to try and correct the situation? Thanks for any help, Ole Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 > wrote: We have all heard about rules in this regard. My question is why worship MORE than one Shalagram? Ekameva dvitya nasti. ONE is the really perfect number of Shalagram Shila. Best wishes, Richard sacred-objects, "Ariel" <kamael9 wrote: > > Hari Hara Om > > Would like to pose another question to this esteemed group. > > Was reading a article the other day on the Shaligram Tirtha > Pradarshini Website. > > It said that 1 was an auspicious number of shaligrama to worship. > > It was inauspicious to have 2 or 3. > > That after having one, a person should worship an even number of > shilas starting with 4.. > > Just didn't make sense to me. > > How can finding ANY number of shaligram shila in one's life can that > be inauspicious ?? > > Would like to know others' opinions.. > > Many Thanks and Maha Pranamas. > > Ariel > All new Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Dear Ole, Yes, there is a connection. Please find out how the devotee is worshipping, and ask him if he wants to return to you for someone else to take care. This is proactive advice. Best rgds, Richard sacred-objects, Ole Alstrup <alstrup wrote: > > Richard, > > I have a question. A few years ago I helped a devotee from the gaudiya vaishnava faith obtain some Shalagram Shilas from Nepal. You could say I was responsible that he got them. Some time ago when I spoke with him and asked how his worship is going, I got some indications that signalled to me he is worshipping them anymore or taking care of them nicely. I want to know if there is any negative karma involved on my part with this and if I should take steps to try and correct the situation? > > Thanks for any help, > > Ole > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote: > We have all heard about rules in this regard. My question is why > worship MORE than one Shalagram? Ekameva dvitya nasti. ONE is the > really perfect number of Shalagram Shila. > > Best wishes, > Richard > > sacred-objects, "Ariel" <kamael9@> wrote: > > > > Hari Hara Om > > > > Would like to pose another question to this esteemed group. > > > > Was reading a article the other day on the Shaligram Tirtha > > Pradarshini Website. > > > > It said that 1 was an auspicious number of shaligrama to worship. > > > > It was inauspicious to have 2 or 3. > > > > That after having one, a person should worship an even number of > > shilas starting with 4.. > > > > Just didn't make sense to me. > > > > How can finding ANY number of shaligram shila in one's life can that > > be inauspicious ?? > > > > Would like to know others' opinions.. > > > > Many Thanks and Maha Pranamas. > > > > Ariel > > > > > > > > > > All new Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Dear Sriman, Namaste!!! Of course there is nothing wrong with worshipping any number of Shalagrams. To worship one Shalagram is to worship ALL Shalagrams, because Deity is same, and He is ONE. Not that we have worshipped God in one shalagram, but He remains unworshipped in another. If you worship 10 Shalagrams then you have worshipped 10 times the same Deity, Sri Hari. For the sake of distinction we can say a person who worships ONE Shalagram is a pujari, and one who worships MANY Shalagrams is a "Pujari-Collector". Because many Shalagrams is collecting. And there is nothing wrong with that. What could be better collected??? Best wishes, Richard sacred-objects, Janardana Dasa <lightdweller wrote: > > With all due respect to what you are saying, only one is fine for some, and for some, they would like to worship many salagrams, as there are many manifestations of Lord Krishna. Nevertheless, if some have this practice, we must not cast aspersions, as everyone has differing moods sentiments etc, associated with various pastimes, tadiyas, etc., of the Lord. > > Respectfully, we cannot say "only one is good for all". What is good for some, is not good for others. This desire to worship many salagrams is a manifestation of the jiva's naturally greedy desire to attain bhakti, render service to, and return to the constitutional position of being eternal servitor of Lord Sri Krishna. Thus, this practice should be understood. > > JANARDANA DASA > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote: > We have all heard about rules in this regard. My question is why > worship MORE than one Shalagram? Ekameva dvitya nasti. ONE is the > really perfect number of Shalagram Shila. > > Best wishes, > Richard > > sacred-objects, "Ariel" <kamael9@> wrote: > > > > Hari Hara Om > > > > Would like to pose another question to this esteemed group. > > > > Was reading a article the other day on the Shaligram Tirtha > > Pradarshini Website. > > > > It said that 1 was an auspicious number of shaligrama to worship. > > > > It was inauspicious to have 2 or 3. > > > > That after having one, a person should worship an even number of > > shilas starting with 4.. > > > > Just didn't make sense to me. > > > > How can finding ANY number of shaligram shila in one's life can that > > be inauspicious ?? > > > > Would like to know others' opinions.. > > > > Many Thanks and Maha Pranamas. > > > > Ariel > > > > > > > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Dear All, One of my clients who is a billionaire likes to collect sacred objects, and when he read about Shalagram he asked me for one. I told him Shalagram is not like other items, it cannot be worn as talisman or kept as keepsake... FIRST you must be Vegetarian, and then do DAILY puja, non-stop. That was enough to discourage him. Best wishes, Richard sacred-objects, "Ariel" <kamael9 wrote: > > Dear Richardji and Mr. Pradeep: > > Thank you both for your insights. > > Your words are very thought provoking and worth pondering. > > With kind regards, > Ariel > > sacred-objects, "Richard Shaw-Brown" > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > We have all heard about rules in this regard. My question is why > > worship MORE than one Shalagram? Ekameva dvitya nasti. ONE is the > > really perfect number of Shalagram Shila. > > > > Best wishes, > > Richard > > > > sacred-objects, "Ariel" <kamael9@> wrote: > > > > > > Hari Hara Om > > > > > > Would like to pose another question to this esteemed group. > > > > > > Was reading a article the other day on the Shaligram Tirtha > > > Pradarshini Website. > > > > > > It said that 1 was an auspicious number of shaligrama to worship. > > > > > > It was inauspicious to have 2 or 3. > > > > > > That after having one, a person should worship an even number of > > > shilas starting with 4.. > > > > > > Just didn't make sense to me. > > > > > > How can finding ANY number of shaligram shila in one's life can > that > > > be inauspicious ?? > > > > > > Would like to know others' opinions.. > > > > > > Many Thanks and Maha Pranamas. > > > > > > Ariel > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Dear Rasul, You'll get some basic info about Parada Shiva Lingam from my site at > http://www.astrojyoti.com/paradshivalinga.htm and also a better picture. The price depends on the quality & % of mercury. Regards Pandit S.P.Tata On 8/22/06, Rasul Redoy <rasulredoy > wrote: > > Dear Group members, please kindly share any and all information you may > have on the subject of Parad, especially in a Shiva Lingam such as the one > pictured here. > > Richardji, what should be the approximate cost, value (US dollars) of this > size Lingam...Is Parad considered a rare (precious) metal? > > I am aware that at least Nepali Saivites regard Parad as rooted in the > Vedas, and even associated by some with Soma. However, from a modern > ("scientific") point of view is there danger in having Mercury on your > personal altar, in constant and close proximity to yourself? (Can one > bathe a Parad Lingam with water?) > > What is the specific connection of Parad with Shiva? If this is rooted in > the Vedas, Puranas or Ayurveda, can someone help me to find out where? > > Thanks for any light you can shed on this important & interesting subject.. > > > > Parad Shiva Linga > SquareTrade © AP6.0 > > > 1.15" x 1.75" > 5 oz - 143 g > Ancient Vedas have considered Parad as the most pure and auspicious > metal which not only has religious importance but medical importance too. > Parad is very useful in controlling various diseases like High Blood > Pressure and Asthma, and has special significance in Ayurveda too. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates > starting at 1¢/min.<http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/postman7/*http://us.rd./evt=39666/*http://messenger.> > > > -- With best wishes Pandit S.P.Tata H-5/3, 3rd Floor Malviya Nagar New Delhi - 110017 Phone: 91-11-26680664 (Exclusive for incoming), 91-11-26673281, Mobile: 9911119235. Email to: sptata Website: www.astrojyoti.com You can contact me online 10 Am to 8 Pm IST with: Messengers - the user ID is s_p_tata. MSN Messenger - the user ID is s_p_tata (AT) hotmail (DOT) com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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