Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 OM NAMAH SIVAYA no, i was not being facetious. but if I may say it seems the obstacles to you achieving your goal don't seem insurmountable. Just pray to Ganesh and start. the group will form. Tom you have two great assets on your side. the obvious One is Amma. the other, in my opinion is your perseverance. i think it is safe to say you are not a quitter. and just look what Prabhupada accomplished in a few years starting from nothing, with no money. we only are able to control of ourselves(hopefully). to try to change others is a waste of energy, except by example. you know things are how Amma wants them. from what i have seen Amma's swamis work like dogs. adharma is not Dayamitra. adharma is Lebanon and Israel, and so many other world situations. if you value the power of group chant due to the collective energy, let's apply that same disposition to all our interactions. you don't what will happen until you try. Good Luck. JAI MA Ammachi, "Tom" <tomgull wrote: > > Not sure if you're being fecicious (sp?) or not... > > I just got a second copy of the small purple book this past year on > tour, but if you want to purchase copies for a "group collection" for > members, by all means get your checkcard ready. > > Not everyone's into the great outdoors in August on the eastcoast, > due to the heat and humidity and the traffic making it unhealthy to > breathe. Plenty of mosquitos too. > > It's Adharmic to "go-around" the structure of devotees who currently > do have places to hold satsang, or who can pool their finances to > rent a place. The outdoors is not suitable because of the > distractions and problems hearing eachother due to the lack of walls. > > Next: Nobody wants to do the chanting. Many I've seen turn away > from going to any satsang at all, Amma or otherwise. Why? > Ineffectiveness, lack of Faith in the practices, laziness and > cheapness. There's a common belief that one shouldn't have to pay > for spirituality. Also, people don't understand that while learning > the LS takes great effort and time, it's a Lifetime Skill if you're > going to stick with Amma, so why not start now and forever be blessed? > > tom > > Any prasad is great, but Amma says that the plain chanting itself is > enough, not to let the lack of puja articles deter one. > > Ammachi, "ecjensen_us" <ecjensen_us@> wrote: > > > > OM NAMAH SIVAYA > > > > if money is what is holding you back Tom i will help you. i assume > > you have the LS archana book if not email me your home address and > i > > will have one sent to you. it only about $5 or so right? > > > > next a place for hold satsang??... find a park near your home with > a > > big tree to sit under. the tree will protect you in case of rain > and > > visualize it as sitting under the Loving umbrella of Amma's > Divinity. > > > > next email or call whomever you want to attend the LS chanting. > that > > shouldn't cost anything so i trust you can take care of that. if > > people show up cool if not just keep doing it they will come. > > > > prasad??... i like to think of prasad as my ego offered to Divine > > Mother, and after The Names i like to visualize that i have become > > Her thru The Mantras. then when i take prasad i am eating my own > > ego. i think watermelon would be a good cost effective option. > but > > any fruit is fine. let me know if you need money for the fruit. > > > > by the time the weather changes and its too cold to be outside > > satsang will have had a couple months to get going and maybe an > > alternative to the outside location will present itself. Mother > > provides, right? i am forgetting anything? i really hate the > > thought of bothering Amma with any of this, when as you say the > > Sadhana is what is really spurs our spiritual development. besides > > She is so busy already i would gladly pay $ to relieve her burden > > even a little. let me know if this is a workable solution for you. > > > > JAI MA > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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