Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Dear Friends, Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words. "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You will find difference of timings in most of the watches. Check Your own house. Computer will show different time, Your mobile will show different time, Your wall clock will show different time, your wrist watch will show different time. So how can You expect that for every birth the time noted would be perfect ?" In most cases where precesion or accuracy is required while addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth time is going to create hurdles for delieantion of results and predictions given to client may not match, resulting in bad name to astrologer and the science itself. Therefore it is always better to verify the birth time and confirm the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress whichever Bhava question and answer we are looking for. regards, Bhaskar. Bombay Cell-9323522663 Landline- 022-24330886 Private email - rajiventerprises (AT) hathway (DOT) com Consultations from this Astrologer are not Charged on Forum, but by Private Mail, Telephone, or any other way, would be charged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE. , "bhaskar_jyotish" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words. > "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You will find difference of > timings in most of the watches. Check Your own house. Computer will > show different time, Your mobile will show different time, Your > wall clock will show different time, your wrist watch will show > different time. So how can You expect that for every birth the time > noted would be perfect ?" > > In most cases where precesion or accuracy is required while > addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth time is going to create > hurdles for delieantion of results and predictions given to client > may not match, > resulting in bad name to astrologer and the science itself. > Therefore it is always better to verify the birth time and confirm > the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress whichever Bhava question > and answer we are looking for. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > Bombay > Cell-9323522663 > Landline- 022-24330886 > Private email - rajiventerprises > Consultations from this Astrologer are not Charged > on Forum, but by Private Mail, Telephone, or any > other way, would be charged. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 YEAH. Fine tuning is required. I know to do for Charts bit wives .......? , "jaibabedi2004" <jaibabedi wrote: > > > WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE. > > > , "bhaskar_jyotish" > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words. > > "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You will find difference of > > timings in most of the watches. Check Your own house. Computer > will > > show different time, Your mobile will show different time, Your > > wall clock will show different time, your wrist watch will show > > different time. So how can You expect that for every birth the > time > > noted would be perfect ?" > > > > In most cases where precesion or accuracy is required while > > addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth time is going to create > > hurdles for delieantion of results and predictions given to client > > may not match, > > resulting in bad name to astrologer and the science itself. > > Therefore it is always better to verify the birth time and confirm > > the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress whichever Bhava question > > and answer we are looking for. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > Bombay > > Cell-9323522663 > > Landline- 022-24330886 > > Private email - rajiventerprises@ > > Consultations from this Astrologer are not Charged > > on Forum, but by Private Mail, Telephone, or any > > other way, would be charged. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have wives, be happy with wife. regards / Prafulla Gang Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked league with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, in wickedness a league beyond the devil. > > bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000 > > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > > YEAH. > Fine tuning is required. > I know to do for Charts bit wives .......? > > > > > > , "jaibabedi2004" > <jaibabedi wrote: >> >> >> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE. >> >> >> , "bhaskar_jyotish" >> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Friends, >>> >>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words. >>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You will find difference > of >>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your own house. Computer >> will >>> show different time, Your mobile will show different time, Your >>> wall clock will show different time, your wrist watch will show >>> different time. So how can You expect that for every birth the >> time >>> noted would be perfect ?" >>> >>> In most cases where precesion or accuracy is required while >>> addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth time is going to > create >>> hurdles for delieantion of results and predictions given to > client >>> may not match, >>> resulting in bad name to astrologer and the science itself. >>> Therefore it is always better to verify the birth time and > confirm >>> the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress whichever Bhava question >>> and answer we are looking for. >>> >>> regards, >>> Bhaskar. >>> >>> Bombay >>> Cell-9323522663 >>> Landline- 022-24330886 >>> Private email - rajiventerprises@ >>> Consultations from this Astrologer are not Charged >>> on Forum, but by Private Mail, Telephone, or any >>> other way, would be charged. >>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Good one. Even tuning of one wife or ones wife is a great thing, forget wives. Great are those people who have a loving wife,who is waiting sweetly at the door, at the end of the day waiting for her man, with a sweet smile on the face, and a sweet word, even if the man brings home only Rs. 50- A person whose wife always has good words and praise for her husband in his front or behind his back, can be considered a real succesful man,I could say in this world, though he may not have enough in the wordly sense. Ya.now to reply to You, wife can agree...wives cannot. Bhai abhi tak try nahi kiya hai, aapke sentence ke latter part ko,. Mauka nahi mila. Kuch experience hai to bataiye. Seekhenge aap se. regards, Bhaskar. , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have wives, be happy with wife. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked league with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, in wickedness a league beyond the devil. > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish > > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000 > > > > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > > > > YEAH. > > Fine tuning is required. > > I know to do for Charts bit wives .......? > > > > > > > > > > > > , "jaibabedi2004" > > <jaibabedi@> wrote: > >> > >> > >> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE. > >> > >> > >> , "bhaskar_jyotish" > >> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > >>> > >>> Dear Friends, > >>> > >>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words. > >>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You will find difference > > of > >>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your own house. Computer > >> will > >>> show different time, Your mobile will show different time, Your > >>> wall clock will show different time, your wrist watch will show > >>> different time. So how can You expect that for every birth the > >> time > >>> noted would be perfect ?" > >>> > >>> In most cases where precesion or accuracy is required while > >>> addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth time is going to > > create > >>> hurdles for delieantion of results and predictions given to > > client > >>> may not match, > >>> resulting in bad name to astrologer and the science itself. > >>> Therefore it is always better to verify the birth time and > > confirm > >>> the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress whichever Bhava question > >>> and answer we are looking for. > >>> > >>> regards, > >>> Bhaskar. > >>> > >>> Bombay > >>> Cell-9323522663 > >>> Landline- 022-24330886 > >>> Private email - rajiventerprises@ > >>> Consultations from this Astrologer are not Charged > >>> on Forum, but by Private Mail, Telephone, or any > >>> other way, would be charged. > >>> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Domestic life has increasingly become challenge for professional stress and so on, for current generations. The chart compatibility issue, I never explored - even for myself. Lagna lord in 7th,even in enemy sign - does not harm it; for marital issues - watch for 7th house, 8th house, 2nd house, 7th from venus, UL, navamsha lagna, 7th in D9, 2nd from UL; venus for man and mars for female nativity. regards / Prafulla Gang Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked league with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, in wickedness a league beyond the devil. > > bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:36:00 -0000 > > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > > Good one. Even tuning of one wife or ones wife is a great thing, > forget wives. > Great are those people who have a loving wife,who is waiting > sweetly at the door, at the end of the day waiting for her man, > with a sweet smile on the face, and a sweet word, even if the > man brings home only Rs. 50- > A person whose wife always has good words and praise for her > husband in his front or behind his back, can be considered a real > succesful man,I could say in this world, though he may not have > enough in the wordly sense. > > Ya.now to reply to You, wife can agree...wives cannot. > Bhai abhi tak try nahi kiya hai, aapke sentence ke latter > part ko,. Mauka nahi mila. Kuch experience hai to bataiye. > Seekhenge aap se. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish > wrote: >> >> Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have wives, be happy with > wife. >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked league > with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, in > wickedness a league beyond the devil. >> >> >>> >>> bhaskar_jyotish >>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000 >>> >>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>> >>> YEAH. >>> Fine tuning is required. >>> I know to do for Charts bit wives .......? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> , "jaibabedi2004" >>> <jaibabedi@> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE. >>>> >>>> >>>> , "bhaskar_jyotish" >>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dear Friends, >>>>> >>>>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words. >>>>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You will find difference >>> of >>>>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your own house. Computer >>>> will >>>>> show different time, Your mobile will show different time, Your >>>>> wall clock will show different time, your wrist watch will show >>>>> different time. So how can You expect that for every birth the >>>> time >>>>> noted would be perfect ?" >>>>> >>>>> In most cases where precesion or accuracy is required while >>>>> addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth time is going to >>> create >>>>> hurdles for delieantion of results and predictions given to >>> client >>>>> may not match, >>>>> resulting in bad name to astrologer and the science itself. >>>>> Therefore it is always better to verify the birth time and >>> confirm >>>>> the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress whichever Bhava question >>>>> and answer we are looking for. >>>>> >>>>> regards, >>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>> >>>>> Bombay >>>>> Cell-9323522663 >>>>> Landline- 022-24330886 >>>>> Private email - rajiventerprises@ >>>>> Consultations from this Astrologer are not Charged >>>>> on Forum, but by Private Mail, Telephone, or any >>>>> other way, would be charged. >>>>> >>>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 VERY TRUE. regards, Bhaskar. , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Domestic life has increasingly become challenge for professional stress and so on, for current generations. The chart compatibility issue, I never explored - even for myself. > > Lagna lord in 7th,even in enemy sign - does not harm it; for marital issues - watch for 7th house, 8th house, 2nd house, 7th from venus, UL, navamsha lagna, 7th in D9, 2nd from UL; venus for man and mars for female nativity. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked league with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, in wickedness a league beyond the devil. > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish > > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:36:00 -0000 > > > > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > > > > Good one. Even tuning of one wife or ones wife is a great thing, > > forget wives. > > Great are those people who have a loving wife,who is waiting > > sweetly at the door, at the end of the day waiting for her man, > > with a sweet smile on the face, and a sweet word, even if the > > man brings home only Rs. 50- > > A person whose wife always has good words and praise for her > > husband in his front or behind his back, can be considered a real > > succesful man,I could say in this world, though he may not have > > enough in the wordly sense. > > > > Ya.now to reply to You, wife can agree...wives cannot. > > Bhai abhi tak try nahi kiya hai, aapke sentence ke latter > > part ko,. Mauka nahi mila. Kuch experience hai to bataiye. > > Seekhenge aap se. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > wrote: > >> > >> Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have wives, be happy with > > wife. > >> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > >> > >> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked league > > with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, in > > wickedness a league beyond the devil. > >> > >> > >>> > >>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > >>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000 > >>> > >>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > >>> > >>> YEAH. > >>> Fine tuning is required. > >>> I know to do for Charts bit wives .......? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> , "jaibabedi2004" > >>> <jaibabedi@> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> , "bhaskar_jyotish" > >>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Dear Friends, > >>>>> > >>>>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words. > >>>>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You will find difference > >>> of > >>>>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your own house. Computer > >>>> will > >>>>> show different time, Your mobile will show different time, Your > >>>>> wall clock will show different time, your wrist watch will show > >>>>> different time. So how can You expect that for every birth the > >>>> time > >>>>> noted would be perfect ?" > >>>>> > >>>>> In most cases where precesion or accuracy is required while > >>>>> addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth time is going to > >>> create > >>>>> hurdles for delieantion of results and predictions given to > >>> client > >>>>> may not match, > >>>>> resulting in bad name to astrologer and the science itself. > >>>>> Therefore it is always better to verify the birth time and > >>> confirm > >>>>> the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress whichever Bhava question > >>>>> and answer we are looking for. > >>>>> > >>>>> regards, > >>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>> > >>>>> Bombay > >>>>> Cell-9323522663 > >>>>> Landline- 022-24330886 > >>>>> Private email - rajiventerprises@ > >>>>> Consultations from this Astrologer are not Charged > >>>>> on Forum, but by Private Mail, Telephone, or any > >>>>> other way, would be charged. > >>>>> > >>>> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Chart compatibility is a serious issue which many advisors neither take seriously nor take pains nor want to understand the gravity of. Many families have been wrecked and those who have not divorced are living a hell life, because their charts have not been checked properly before marriage. Now that is another way to save face that, they were destined to live like that only,so when can be do. This explanation does not hold true in all cases. Just Guna, Nadi dosha etc. or points checking is not going to help in solitary, it hs to be supplemented- we have also to check whether the boy (If Girl wants to marry) is having a good Dasha coming in life after marriage, finance sectors, whether he is capable of sustaining the daily expenditures, and also health factors apart from other ones , in a boys horoscope.,before giving our verdict. Bhaskar. , "bhaskar_jyotish" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > VERY TRUE. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Domestic life has increasingly become challenge for professional > stress and so on, for current generations. The chart compatibility > issue, I never explored - even for myself. > > > > Lagna lord in 7th,even in enemy sign - does not harm it; for > marital issues - watch for 7th house, 8th house, 2nd house, 7th from > venus, UL, navamsha lagna, 7th in D9, 2nd from UL; venus for man and > mars for female nativity. > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked league > with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, in > wickedness a league beyond the devil. > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:36:00 -0000 > > > > > > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > > > > > > Good one. Even tuning of one wife or ones wife is a great thing, > > > forget wives. > > > Great are those people who have a loving wife,who is waiting > > > sweetly at the door, at the end of the day waiting for her man, > > > with a sweet smile on the face, and a sweet word, even if the > > > man brings home only Rs. 50- > > > A person whose wife always has good words and praise for her > > > husband in his front or behind his back, can be considered a real > > > succesful man,I could say in this world, though he may not have > > > enough in the wordly sense. > > > > > > Ya.now to reply to You, wife can agree...wives cannot. > > > Bhai abhi tak try nahi kiya hai, aapke sentence ke latter > > > part ko,. Mauka nahi mila. Kuch experience hai to bataiye. > > > Seekhenge aap se. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have wives, be happy with > > > wife. > > >> > > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > > >> > > >> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked league > > > with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, in > > > wickedness a league beyond the devil. > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > >>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > > >>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000 > > >>> > > >>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > > >>> > > >>> YEAH. > > >>> Fine tuning is required. > > >>> I know to do for Charts bit wives .......? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> , "jaibabedi2004" > > >>> <jaibabedi@> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> , "bhaskar_jyotish" > > >>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Dear Friends, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words. > > >>>>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You will find > difference > > >>> of > > >>>>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your own house. Computer > > >>>> will > > >>>>> show different time, Your mobile will show different time, > Your > > >>>>> wall clock will show different time, your wrist watch will > show > > >>>>> different time. So how can You expect that for every birth the > > >>>> time > > >>>>> noted would be perfect ?" > > >>>>> > > >>>>> In most cases where precesion or accuracy is required while > > >>>>> addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth time is going to > > >>> create > > >>>>> hurdles for delieantion of results and predictions given to > > >>> client > > >>>>> may not match, > > >>>>> resulting in bad name to astrologer and the science itself. > > >>>>> Therefore it is always better to verify the birth time and > > >>> confirm > > >>>>> the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress whichever Bhava > question > > >>>>> and answer we are looking for. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> regards, > > >>>>> Bhaskar. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Bombay > > >>>>> Cell-9323522663 > > >>>>> Landline- 022-24330886 > > >>>>> Private email - rajiventerprises@ > > >>>>> Consultations from this Astrologer are not Charged > > >>>>> on Forum, but by Private Mail, Telephone, or any > > >>>>> other way, would be charged. > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 As a post event issue, it may be a factor to define as to why did this happen? But has anyone been able to avoid the disaster or could bring domestic / marital happiness - by having marriage through compatibility tests (if one is not destined !!!). I am eagerly listening. regards / Prafulla Gang To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity of life around you. To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, to forget. > > bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:50:21 -0000 > > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > > Chart compatibility is a serious issue which many advisors > neither take seriously nor take pains nor want to understand the > gravity of. Many families have been wrecked and those who have not > divorced are living a hell life, because their charts have not been > checked properly before marriage. Now that is another way to save > face that, they were destined to live like that only,so when can be > do. This explanation does not hold true in all cases. Just Guna, > Nadi dosha etc. or points checking is not going to help in solitary, > it hs to be supplemented- we have also to check whether the boy (If > Girl wants to marry) is having a good Dasha coming in life after > marriage, finance sectors, whether he is capable of sustaining the > daily expenditures, and also health factors apart from other ones , > in a boys horoscope.,before giving our verdict. > > Bhaskar. > > > , "bhaskar_jyotish" > <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: >> >> VERY TRUE. >> >> regards, >> Bhaskar. >> >> >> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> >> wrote: >>> >>> Domestic life has increasingly become challenge for professional >> stress and so on, for current generations. The chart compatibility >> issue, I never explored - even for myself. >>> >>> Lagna lord in 7th,even in enemy sign - does not harm it; for >> marital issues - watch for 7th house, 8th house, 2nd house, 7th > from >> venus, UL, navamsha lagna, 7th in D9, 2nd from UL; venus for man > and >> mars for female nativity. >>> >>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>> >>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked league >> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, in >> wickedness a league beyond the devil. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:36:00 -0000 >>>> >>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>>> >>>> Good one. Even tuning of one wife or ones wife is a great thing, >>>> forget wives. >>>> Great are those people who have a loving wife,who is waiting >>>> sweetly at the door, at the end of the day waiting for her man, >>>> with a sweet smile on the face, and a sweet word, even if the >>>> man brings home only Rs. 50- >>>> A person whose wife always has good words and praise for her >>>> husband in his front or behind his back, can be considered a > real >>>> succesful man,I could say in this world, though he may not have >>>> enough in the wordly sense. >>>> >>>> Ya.now to reply to You, wife can agree...wives cannot. >>>> Bhai abhi tak try nahi kiya hai, aapke sentence ke latter >>>> part ko,. Mauka nahi mila. Kuch experience hai to bataiye. >>>> Seekhenge aap se. >>>> >>>> regards, >>>> Bhaskar. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> , Prafulla Gang > <jyotish@> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have wives, be happy > with >>>> wife. >>>>> >>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>>> >>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked > league >>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, in >>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000 >>>>>> >>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>>>>> >>>>>> YEAH. >>>>>> Fine tuning is required. >>>>>> I know to do for Charts bit wives .......? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> , "jaibabedi2004" >>>>>> <jaibabedi@> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> , "bhaskar_jyotish" >>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Friends, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words. >>>>>>>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You will find >> difference >>>>>> of >>>>>>>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your own house. > Computer >>>>>>> will >>>>>>>> show different time, Your mobile will show different time, >> Your >>>>>>>> wall clock will show different time, your wrist watch will >> show >>>>>>>> different time. So how can You expect that for every birth > the >>>>>>> time >>>>>>>> noted would be perfect ?" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In most cases where precesion or accuracy is required while >>>>>>>> addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth time is going to >>>>>> create >>>>>>>> hurdles for delieantion of results and predictions given to >>>>>> client >>>>>>>> may not match, >>>>>>>> resulting in bad name to astrologer and the science itself. >>>>>>>> Therefore it is always better to verify the birth time and >>>>>> confirm >>>>>>>> the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress whichever Bhava >> question >>>>>>>> and answer we are looking for. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bombay >>>>>>>> Cell-9323522663 >>>>>>>> Landline- 022-24330886 >>>>>>>> Private email - rajiventerprises@ >>>>>>>> Consultations from this Astrologer are not Charged >>>>>>>> on Forum, but by Private Mail, Telephone, or any >>>>>>>> other way, would be charged. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>> >> __________ FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your friends and family! 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Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 I like Your English and enjoy reading Your posts. You also like to argue, and I like that. The answer to Your argument contains in Your approach to the issue. a) Those who are happily married after having compatibility tests done, would You call it as destiny, or due to astrologers capability of doing a good job ? b) Those who are unhappily married after having compatibility tests done,would You call it as destiny,or due to astrologers incapability to do a good job ? If You think that an astrologer has no job in the above in either harming (Which You have accepted in remedies),or in making good the above cases, then astrology is not the right subject for us to persue. Now, a)In most of the cases where the destiny is irreperable and the native has to suffer, he may not have a janma kundli, or will not come out of the cupboard at the time of marriage, or even if it come out may not be shown to a good astrologer, or even if shown to a good astrologer, he may not be in a proper mood and make mistakes in seeing the Kundli etc.. b) Where the destiny is repairable,and mistake is made by going to a wrong astrologer ,You may call it destiny, I would call it astrologers mistake , but at the same time your destiny may rectify that marriage by a divorce to the first marriage and a happy one to the second. See if I know my liver is bad or weak as my Kundli if my Jup is afflicted , then whose mistake if I am drinking one quarter whisky daily ? See if I know my time is good for making money and if I sit at home and just enjoy resting on the bed watching TV, for that dasha and waste time, then whose fault is it ? I should be making hay while Sun shines which I am not. But in both cases (Whisky and watching TV)who is the person to give me knowledge that my liver is bad or time is good ? Undoubtedly the astrologer . Isnt it ? Therefore and hence the astrolgers seriousness of watching a chart and predicting properly, does have a say very much, in deliverance of actions on part of the native. regards, Bhaskar. , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > As a post event issue, it may be a factor to define as to why did this happen? But has anyone been able to avoid the disaster or could bring domestic / marital happiness - by having marriage through compatibility tests (if one is not destined !!!). I am eagerly listening. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity of life around you. > > To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty > to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, to forget. > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish > > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:50:21 -0000 > > > > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > > > > Chart compatibility is a serious issue which many advisors > > neither take seriously nor take pains nor want to understand the > > gravity of. Many families have been wrecked and those who have not > > divorced are living a hell life, because their charts have not been > > checked properly before marriage. Now that is another way to save > > face that, they were destined to live like that only,so when can be > > do. This explanation does not hold true in all cases. Just Guna, > > Nadi dosha etc. or points checking is not going to help in solitary, > > it hs to be supplemented- we have also to check whether the boy (If > > Girl wants to marry) is having a good Dasha coming in life after > > marriage, finance sectors, whether he is capable of sustaining the > > daily expenditures, and also health factors apart from other ones , > > in a boys horoscope.,before giving our verdict. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , "bhaskar_jyotish" > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > >> > >> VERY TRUE. > >> > >> regards, > >> Bhaskar. > >> > >> > >> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Domestic life has increasingly become challenge for professional > >> stress and so on, for current generations. The chart compatibility > >> issue, I never explored - even for myself. > >>> > >>> Lagna lord in 7th,even in enemy sign - does not harm it; for > >> marital issues - watch for 7th house, 8th house, 2nd house, 7th > > from > >> venus, UL, navamsha lagna, 7th in D9, 2nd from UL; venus for man > > and > >> mars for female nativity. > >>> > >>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>> > >>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked league > >> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, in > >> wickedness a league beyond the devil. > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > >>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:36:00 -0000 > >>>> > >>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > >>>> > >>>> Good one. Even tuning of one wife or ones wife is a great thing, > >>>> forget wives. > >>>> Great are those people who have a loving wife,who is waiting > >>>> sweetly at the door, at the end of the day waiting for her man, > >>>> with a sweet smile on the face, and a sweet word, even if the > >>>> man brings home only Rs. 50- > >>>> A person whose wife always has good words and praise for her > >>>> husband in his front or behind his back, can be considered a > > real > >>>> succesful man,I could say in this world, though he may not have > >>>> enough in the wordly sense. > >>>> > >>>> Ya.now to reply to You, wife can agree...wives cannot. > >>>> Bhai abhi tak try nahi kiya hai, aapke sentence ke latter > >>>> part ko,. Mauka nahi mila. Kuch experience hai to bataiye. > >>>> Seekhenge aap se. > >>>> > >>>> regards, > >>>> Bhaskar. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> , Prafulla Gang > > <jyotish@> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have wives, be happy > > with > >>>> wife. > >>>>> > >>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>>> > >>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked > > league > >>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, in > >>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > >>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> YEAH. > >>>>>> Fine tuning is required. > >>>>>> I know to do for Charts bit wives .......? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> , "jaibabedi2004" > >>>>>> <jaibabedi@> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> , "bhaskar_jyotish" > >>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear Friends, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words. > >>>>>>>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You will find > >> difference > >>>>>> of > >>>>>>>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your own house. > > Computer > >>>>>>> will > >>>>>>>> show different time, Your mobile will show different time, > >> Your > >>>>>>>> wall clock will show different time, your wrist watch will > >> show > >>>>>>>> different time. So how can You expect that for every birth > > the > >>>>>>> time > >>>>>>>> noted would be perfect ?" > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> In most cases where precesion or accuracy is required while > >>>>>>>> addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth time is going to > >>>>>> create > >>>>>>>> hurdles for delieantion of results and predictions given to > >>>>>> client > >>>>>>>> may not match, > >>>>>>>> resulting in bad name to astrologer and the science itself. > >>>>>>>> Therefore it is always better to verify the birth time and > >>>>>> confirm > >>>>>>>> the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress whichever Bhava > >> question > >>>>>>>> and answer we are looking for. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> regards, > >>>>>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Bombay > >>>>>>>> Cell-9323522663 > >>>>>>>> Landline- 022-24330886 > >>>>>>>> Private email - rajiventerprises@ > >>>>>>>> Consultations from this Astrologer are not Charged > >>>>>>>> on Forum, but by Private Mail, Telephone, or any > >>>>>>>> other way, would be charged. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >> > > __________ > FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your friends and family! > Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Dear Bhaskar ji, I am not arguing..You have read my question wrong. I made a very simple statement. and it has nothing to do with relevance of astrology. We all know that, jyotish works..that is why we are here on the forum. I rephrase it. Is compatibility test a remedial measure !! Please check the statistics of the married couple - who have compatibility test done and married life is not that great. So, my additional question - has it worked? BTW, more than 70% of marriages are failures - in terms of personal satisfactions (emotional, mental, physical, progeny issues etc). Do you feel that, those people have missed compatibility tests? Yes, I may tend to agree that - most failed marriages have compatibility issues. But vice versa is yet to be proven!!! regards / Prafulla Gang To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity of life around you. To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, to forget. > > bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:47:24 -0000 > > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > > I like Your English and enjoy reading Your posts. > You also like to argue, and I like that. > The answer to Your argument contains in Your approach to the issue. > > a) Those who are happily married after having compatibility tests > done, would You call it as destiny, or due to astrologers capability > of doing a good job ? > > b) Those who are unhappily married after having compatibility tests > done,would You call it as destiny,or due to astrologers incapability > to do a good job ? > > If You think that an astrologer has no job in the above in > either harming (Which You have accepted in remedies),or > in making good the above cases, then astrology is not the right > subject for us to persue. > > Now, > a)In most of the cases where the destiny is irreperable and the > native has to suffer, he may not have a janma kundli, or will not > come out of the cupboard at the time of marriage, or even > if it come out may not be shown to a good astrologer, or even if > shown to a good astrologer, he may not be in a proper mood and make > mistakes in seeing the Kundli etc.. > > b) Where the destiny is repairable,and mistake is made by > going to a wrong astrologer ,You may call it destiny, I > would call it astrologers mistake , but at the same time > your destiny may rectify that marriage by a divorce to > the first marriage and a happy one to the second. > > > See if I know my liver is bad or weak as my Kundli if my Jup > is afflicted , then whose mistake if I am drinking one quarter > whisky daily ? > > See if I know my time is good for making money and if I sit at home > and just enjoy resting on the bed watching TV, for that dasha and > waste time, then whose fault is it ? I should be making hay while > Sun shines which I am not. > > But in both cases (Whisky and watching TV)who is the person to give > me knowledge that my liver is bad or time is good ? > Undoubtedly the astrologer . Isnt it ? > Therefore and hence the astrolgers seriousness of watching a chart > and predicting properly, does have a say very much, in deliverance > of actions on part of the native. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish > wrote: >> >> As a post event issue, it may be a factor to define as to why did > this happen? But has anyone been able to avoid the disaster or could > bring domestic / marital happiness - by having marriage through > compatibility tests (if one is not destined !!!). I am eagerly > listening. >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To > never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity > of life around you. >> >> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty >> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate > what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to > watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, > to forget. >> >> >>> >>> bhaskar_jyotish >>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:50:21 -0000 >>> >>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>> >>> Chart compatibility is a serious issue which many advisors >>> neither take seriously nor take pains nor want to understand the >>> gravity of. Many families have been wrecked and those who have not >>> divorced are living a hell life, because their charts have not > been >>> checked properly before marriage. Now that is another way to save >>> face that, they were destined to live like that only,so when can > be >>> do. This explanation does not hold true in all cases. Just Guna, >>> Nadi dosha etc. or points checking is not going to help in > solitary, >>> it hs to be supplemented- we have also to check whether the boy > (If >>> Girl wants to marry) is having a good Dasha coming in life after >>> marriage, finance sectors, whether he is capable of sustaining the >>> daily expenditures, and also health factors apart from other > ones , >>> in a boys horoscope.,before giving our verdict. >>> >>> Bhaskar. >>> >>> >>> , "bhaskar_jyotish" >>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: >>>> >>>> VERY TRUE. >>>> >>>> regards, >>>> Bhaskar. >>>> >>>> >>>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Domestic life has increasingly become challenge for professional >>>> stress and so on, for current generations. The chart > compatibility >>>> issue, I never explored - even for myself. >>>>> >>>>> Lagna lord in 7th,even in enemy sign - does not harm it; for >>>> marital issues - watch for 7th house, 8th house, 2nd house, 7th >>> from >>>> venus, UL, navamsha lagna, 7th in D9, 2nd from UL; venus for man >>> and >>>> mars for female nativity. >>>>> >>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>>> >>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked > league >>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, in >>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:36:00 -0000 >>>>>> >>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Good one. Even tuning of one wife or ones wife is a great > thing, >>>>>> forget wives. >>>>>> Great are those people who have a loving wife,who is waiting >>>>>> sweetly at the door, at the end of the day waiting for her man, >>>>>> with a sweet smile on the face, and a sweet word, even if the >>>>>> man brings home only Rs. 50- >>>>>> A person whose wife always has good words and praise for her >>>>>> husband in his front or behind his back, can be considered a >>> real >>>>>> succesful man,I could say in this world, though he may not have >>>>>> enough in the wordly sense. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ya.now to reply to You, wife can agree...wives cannot. >>>>>> Bhai abhi tak try nahi kiya hai, aapke sentence ke latter >>>>>> part ko,. Mauka nahi mila. Kuch experience hai to bataiye. >>>>>> Seekhenge aap se. >>>>>> >>>>>> regards, >>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> , Prafulla Gang >>> <jyotish@> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have wives, be happy >>> with >>>>>> wife. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked >>> league >>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, in >>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> YEAH. >>>>>>>> Fine tuning is required. >>>>>>>> I know to do for Charts bit wives .......? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> , "jaibabedi2004" >>>>>>>> <jaibabedi@> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> , "bhaskar_jyotish" >>>>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words. >>>>>>>>>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You will find >>>> difference >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your own house. >>> Computer >>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>> show different time, Your mobile will show different time, >>>> Your >>>>>>>>>> wall clock will show different time, your wrist watch will >>>> show >>>>>>>>>> different time. So how can You expect that for every birth >>> the >>>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>>>> noted would be perfect ?" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In most cases where precesion or accuracy is required while >>>>>>>>>> addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth time is going to >>>>>>>> create >>>>>>>>>> hurdles for delieantion of results and predictions given to >>>>>>>> client >>>>>>>>>> may not match, >>>>>>>>>> resulting in bad name to astrologer and the science itself. >>>>>>>>>> Therefore it is always better to verify the birth time and >>>>>>>> confirm >>>>>>>>>> the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress whichever Bhava >>>> question >>>>>>>>>> and answer we are looking for. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Bombay >>>>>>>>>> Cell-9323522663 >>>>>>>>>> Landline- 022-24330886 >>>>>>>>>> Private email - rajiventerprises@ >>>>>>>>>> Consultations from this Astrologer are not Charged >>>>>>>>>> on Forum, but by Private Mail, Telephone, or any >>>>>>>>>> other way, would be charged. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> >> __________ >> FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your > friends and family! >> Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! >> __________ GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool features! 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Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 One more thing, I missed in previous post. If an astrologer is good and charts are correct, will it ensure 100% successful married life - provided compatibility test is done. Also, what are the probabilities of wrong chart? if astrologer is good, he will do necessary birth time rectification; and then will he compatibility test ensure 100% successful married life - provided compatibility test is done. In my view, if one believes in destiny - then can it avert the disaster in entire phase of life. It is not a remedial measure !!!!! In almost entire India, specially in downtown - it is always done prior to marriages..yet marital unhappiness prevails. Yes, they might surface in public domain or not - is another issue. regards / Prafulla Gang To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity of life around you. To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, to forget. > > bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:47:24 -0000 > > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > > I like Your English and enjoy reading Your posts. > You also like to argue, and I like that. > The answer to Your argument contains in Your approach to the issue. > > a) Those who are happily married after having compatibility tests > done, would You call it as destiny, or due to astrologers capability > of doing a good job ? > > b) Those who are unhappily married after having compatibility tests > done,would You call it as destiny,or due to astrologers incapability > to do a good job ? > > If You think that an astrologer has no job in the above in > either harming (Which You have accepted in remedies),or > in making good the above cases, then astrology is not the right > subject for us to persue. > > Now, > a)In most of the cases where the destiny is irreperable and the > native has to suffer, he may not have a janma kundli, or will not > come out of the cupboard at the time of marriage, or even > if it come out may not be shown to a good astrologer, or even if > shown to a good astrologer, he may not be in a proper mood and make > mistakes in seeing the Kundli etc.. > > b) Where the destiny is repairable,and mistake is made by > going to a wrong astrologer ,You may call it destiny, I > would call it astrologers mistake , but at the same time > your destiny may rectify that marriage by a divorce to > the first marriage and a happy one to the second. > > > See if I know my liver is bad or weak as my Kundli if my Jup > is afflicted , then whose mistake if I am drinking one quarter > whisky daily ? > > See if I know my time is good for making money and if I sit at home > and just enjoy resting on the bed watching TV, for that dasha and > waste time, then whose fault is it ? I should be making hay while > Sun shines which I am not. > > But in both cases (Whisky and watching TV)who is the person to give > me knowledge that my liver is bad or time is good ? > Undoubtedly the astrologer . Isnt it ? > Therefore and hence the astrolgers seriousness of watching a chart > and predicting properly, does have a say very much, in deliverance > of actions on part of the native. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish > wrote: >> >> As a post event issue, it may be a factor to define as to why did > this happen? But has anyone been able to avoid the disaster or could > bring domestic / marital happiness - by having marriage through > compatibility tests (if one is not destined !!!). I am eagerly > listening. >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To > never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity > of life around you. >> >> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty >> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate > what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to > watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, > to forget. >> >> >>> >>> bhaskar_jyotish >>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:50:21 -0000 >>> >>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>> >>> Chart compatibility is a serious issue which many advisors >>> neither take seriously nor take pains nor want to understand the >>> gravity of. Many families have been wrecked and those who have not >>> divorced are living a hell life, because their charts have not > been >>> checked properly before marriage. Now that is another way to save >>> face that, they were destined to live like that only,so when can > be >>> do. This explanation does not hold true in all cases. Just Guna, >>> Nadi dosha etc. or points checking is not going to help in > solitary, >>> it hs to be supplemented- we have also to check whether the boy > (If >>> Girl wants to marry) is having a good Dasha coming in life after >>> marriage, finance sectors, whether he is capable of sustaining the >>> daily expenditures, and also health factors apart from other > ones , >>> in a boys horoscope.,before giving our verdict. >>> >>> Bhaskar. >>> >>> >>> , "bhaskar_jyotish" >>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: >>>> >>>> VERY TRUE. >>>> >>>> regards, >>>> Bhaskar. >>>> >>>> >>>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Domestic life has increasingly become challenge for professional >>>> stress and so on, for current generations. The chart > compatibility >>>> issue, I never explored - even for myself. >>>>> >>>>> Lagna lord in 7th,even in enemy sign - does not harm it; for >>>> marital issues - watch for 7th house, 8th house, 2nd house, 7th >>> from >>>> venus, UL, navamsha lagna, 7th in D9, 2nd from UL; venus for man >>> and >>>> mars for female nativity. >>>>> >>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>>> >>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked > league >>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, in >>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:36:00 -0000 >>>>>> >>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Good one. Even tuning of one wife or ones wife is a great > thing, >>>>>> forget wives. >>>>>> Great are those people who have a loving wife,who is waiting >>>>>> sweetly at the door, at the end of the day waiting for her man, >>>>>> with a sweet smile on the face, and a sweet word, even if the >>>>>> man brings home only Rs. 50- >>>>>> A person whose wife always has good words and praise for her >>>>>> husband in his front or behind his back, can be considered a >>> real >>>>>> succesful man,I could say in this world, though he may not have >>>>>> enough in the wordly sense. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ya.now to reply to You, wife can agree...wives cannot. >>>>>> Bhai abhi tak try nahi kiya hai, aapke sentence ke latter >>>>>> part ko,. Mauka nahi mila. Kuch experience hai to bataiye. >>>>>> Seekhenge aap se. >>>>>> >>>>>> regards, >>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> , Prafulla Gang >>> <jyotish@> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have wives, be happy >>> with >>>>>> wife. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked >>> league >>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, in >>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> YEAH. >>>>>>>> Fine tuning is required. >>>>>>>> I know to do for Charts bit wives .......? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> , "jaibabedi2004" >>>>>>>> <jaibabedi@> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> , "bhaskar_jyotish" >>>>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words. >>>>>>>>>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You will find >>>> difference >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your own house. >>> Computer >>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>> show different time, Your mobile will show different time, >>>> Your >>>>>>>>>> wall clock will show different time, your wrist watch will >>>> show >>>>>>>>>> different time. So how can You expect that for every birth >>> the >>>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>>>> noted would be perfect ?" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In most cases where precesion or accuracy is required while >>>>>>>>>> addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth time is going to >>>>>>>> create >>>>>>>>>> hurdles for delieantion of results and predictions given to >>>>>>>> client >>>>>>>>>> may not match, >>>>>>>>>> resulting in bad name to astrologer and the science itself. >>>>>>>>>> Therefore it is always better to verify the birth time and >>>>>>>> confirm >>>>>>>>>> the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress whichever Bhava >>>> question >>>>>>>>>> and answer we are looking for. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Bombay >>>>>>>>>> Cell-9323522663 >>>>>>>>>> Landline- 022-24330886 >>>>>>>>>> Private email - rajiventerprises@ >>>>>>>>>> Consultations from this Astrologer are not Charged >>>>>>>>>> on Forum, but by Private Mail, Telephone, or any >>>>>>>>>> other way, would be charged. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> >> __________ >> FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your > friends and family! >> Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! >> __________ FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your friends and family! 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Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Dear Prafullaji, A small example why marriage compatibility tests fail ? It also requires proper competency on our part. If a girls horoscope comes to me for marriage. I will take it to a astrologer who will first comment, "are bhai Yeh toh Aries Lagna hai, aur Mars baitha hai lagna mein, yeh ladki toh bilkul nahi chalegi aapko. Your life will become hell, she will try to control You all Your life. Aap doosri kundli lao koi doosari ladki ki.This is what most astrologers will do. Next week I find that this girl has been married to a guy next door and this girl was Aishwarya Rai.How come ? Had he checked the sublord of the ascendant he would have found that the sublord of the ascendant is Venus, then the whole picture changes. Same Lagna, same planet placement, but sublord Venus would make the whole story different. Now this girl though commanding would also possess Venusian qualities which would give some pacification and flexibility to her commanding nature, along with feminine traits , which point would have been missed by the astrologer in question. Had the sublord been Sun then the astrolgers observations would have been too small, the girl would have been totally authoratarian. Same goes with 7th cusp etc. etc. Whenever we check the item in question say, children, property, Gains, then we treat the Cusp as Lagna and the sublord as the main pivot for giving results. Just like Moon is treated as main for normal Lagna and the Nakshatra lord becomes significator for the Dasha operating in ones life, same way check the diffrent cusps for giving the exact results of the query in question. Nowadays many astrolgers who are open to such researches without any bias have proved the efficiency of such sytems in the cause of deciding good or bad, and the whole impact in a nutshell is different than what looks apparently. But the arguments can also be put on the other side of the wall ? How can one prove that the happy marriages are working because of destiny and not because they have done compatibility tests ? Some thoughts to ponder upon ? Aise issues aap khade kar diya karo. Mujhe anand aata hai discuss karne mein, ek limit tak parantu. regards, Bhaskar. , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > I am not arguing..You have read my question wrong. I made a very simple statement. and it has nothing to do with relevance of astrology. We all know that, jyotish works..that is why we are here on the forum. > > I rephrase it. Is compatibility test a remedial measure !! Please check the statistics of the married couple - who have compatibility test done and married life is not that great. So, my additional question - has it worked? > > BTW, more than 70% of marriages are failures - in terms of personal satisfactions (emotional, mental, physical, progeny issues etc). Do you feel that, those people have missed compatibility tests? > > Yes, I may tend to agree that - most failed marriages have compatibility issues. But vice versa is yet to be proven!!! > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity of life around you. > > To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty > to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, to forget. > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish > > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:47:24 -0000 > > > > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > > > > I like Your English and enjoy reading Your posts. > > You also like to argue, and I like that. > > The answer to Your argument contains in Your approach to the issue. > > > > a) Those who are happily married after having compatibility tests > > done, would You call it as destiny, or due to astrologers capability > > of doing a good job ? > > > > b) Those who are unhappily married after having compatibility tests > > done,would You call it as destiny,or due to astrologers incapability > > to do a good job ? > > > > If You think that an astrologer has no job in the above in > > either harming (Which You have accepted in remedies),or > > in making good the above cases, then astrology is not the right > > subject for us to persue. > > > > Now, > > a)In most of the cases where the destiny is irreperable and the > > native has to suffer, he may not have a janma kundli, or will not > > come out of the cupboard at the time of marriage, or even > > if it come out may not be shown to a good astrologer, or even if > > shown to a good astrologer, he may not be in a proper mood and make > > mistakes in seeing the Kundli etc.. > > > > b) Where the destiny is repairable,and mistake is made by > > going to a wrong astrologer ,You may call it destiny, I > > would call it astrologers mistake , but at the same time > > your destiny may rectify that marriage by a divorce to > > the first marriage and a happy one to the second. > > > > > > See if I know my liver is bad or weak as my Kundli if my Jup > > is afflicted , then whose mistake if I am drinking one quarter > > whisky daily ? > > > > See if I know my time is good for making money and if I sit at home > > and just enjoy resting on the bed watching TV, for that dasha and > > waste time, then whose fault is it ? I should be making hay while > > Sun shines which I am not. > > > > But in both cases (Whisky and watching TV)who is the person to give > > me knowledge that my liver is bad or time is good ? > > Undoubtedly the astrologer . Isnt it ? > > Therefore and hence the astrolgers seriousness of watching a chart > > and predicting properly, does have a say very much, in deliverance > > of actions on part of the native. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > wrote: > >> > >> As a post event issue, it may be a factor to define as to why did > > this happen? But has anyone been able to avoid the disaster or could > > bring domestic / marital happiness - by having marriage through > > compatibility tests (if one is not destined !!!). I am eagerly > > listening. > >> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > >> > >> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To > > never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity > > of life around you. > >> > >> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty > >> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate > > what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to > > watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, > > to forget. > >> > >> > >>> > >>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > >>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:50:21 -0000 > >>> > >>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > >>> > >>> Chart compatibility is a serious issue which many advisors > >>> neither take seriously nor take pains nor want to understand the > >>> gravity of. Many families have been wrecked and those who have not > >>> divorced are living a hell life, because their charts have not > > been > >>> checked properly before marriage. Now that is another way to save > >>> face that, they were destined to live like that only,so when can > > be > >>> do. This explanation does not hold true in all cases. Just Guna, > >>> Nadi dosha etc. or points checking is not going to help in > > solitary, > >>> it hs to be supplemented- we have also to check whether the boy > > (If > >>> Girl wants to marry) is having a good Dasha coming in life after > >>> marriage, finance sectors, whether he is capable of sustaining the > >>> daily expenditures, and also health factors apart from other > > ones , > >>> in a boys horoscope.,before giving our verdict. > >>> > >>> Bhaskar. > >>> > >>> > >>> , "bhaskar_jyotish" > >>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> VERY TRUE. > >>>> > >>>> regards, > >>>> Bhaskar. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Domestic life has increasingly become challenge for professional > >>>> stress and so on, for current generations. The chart > > compatibility > >>>> issue, I never explored - even for myself. > >>>>> > >>>>> Lagna lord in 7th,even in enemy sign - does not harm it; for > >>>> marital issues - watch for 7th house, 8th house, 2nd house, 7th > >>> from > >>>> venus, UL, navamsha lagna, 7th in D9, 2nd from UL; venus for man > >>> and > >>>> mars for female nativity. > >>>>> > >>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>>> > >>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked > > league > >>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, in > >>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > >>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:36:00 -0000 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Good one. Even tuning of one wife or ones wife is a great > > thing, > >>>>>> forget wives. > >>>>>> Great are those people who have a loving wife,who is waiting > >>>>>> sweetly at the door, at the end of the day waiting for her man, > >>>>>> with a sweet smile on the face, and a sweet word, even if the > >>>>>> man brings home only Rs. 50- > >>>>>> A person whose wife always has good words and praise for her > >>>>>> husband in his front or behind his back, can be considered a > >>> real > >>>>>> succesful man,I could say in this world, though he may not have > >>>>>> enough in the wordly sense. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Ya.now to reply to You, wife can agree...wives cannot. > >>>>>> Bhai abhi tak try nahi kiya hai, aapke sentence ke latter > >>>>>> part ko,. Mauka nahi mila. Kuch experience hai to bataiye. > >>>>>> Seekhenge aap se. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> regards, > >>>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> , Prafulla Gang > >>> <jyotish@> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have wives, be happy > >>> with > >>>>>> wife. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked > >>> league > >>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, in > >>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > >>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> YEAH. > >>>>>>>> Fine tuning is required. > >>>>>>>> I know to do for Charts bit wives .......? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> , "jaibabedi2004" > >>>>>>>> <jaibabedi@> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> , "bhaskar_jyotish" > >>>>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words. > >>>>>>>>>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You will find > >>>> difference > >>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your own house. > >>> Computer > >>>>>>>>> will > >>>>>>>>>> show different time, Your mobile will show different time, > >>>> Your > >>>>>>>>>> wall clock will show different time, your wrist watch will > >>>> show > >>>>>>>>>> different time. So how can You expect that for every birth > >>> the > >>>>>>>>> time > >>>>>>>>>> noted would be perfect ?" > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> In most cases where precesion or accuracy is required while > >>>>>>>>>> addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth time is going to > >>>>>>>> create > >>>>>>>>>> hurdles for delieantion of results and predictions given to > >>>>>>>> client > >>>>>>>>>> may not match, > >>>>>>>>>> resulting in bad name to astrologer and the science itself. > >>>>>>>>>> Therefore it is always better to verify the birth time and > >>>>>>>> confirm > >>>>>>>>>> the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress whichever Bhava > >>>> question > >>>>>>>>>> and answer we are looking for. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> regards, > >>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Bombay > >>>>>>>>>> Cell-9323522663 > >>>>>>>>>> Landline- 022-24330886 > >>>>>>>>>> Private email - rajiventerprises@ > >>>>>>>>>> Consultations from this Astrologer are not Charged > >>>>>>>>>> on Forum, but by Private Mail, Telephone, or any > >>>>>>>>>> other way, would be charged. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >> > >> __________ > >> FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your > > friends and family! > >> Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! > >> > > __________ > GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool features! > Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Dear Bhaskar ji Let me rephrase the question - if the native is destined to have a successful marriage- will he still require compatibility test (any technique). And can it fail -if he happens to marry someone, with whom his chart compatibility fails. My comments are not arguments for the sake of arguments. These are my observations!! regards / Prafulla Gang To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity of life around you. To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, to forget. > > bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:25:27 -0000 > > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > > > Dear Prafullaji, > > A small example why marriage compatibility tests fail ? > It also requires proper competency on our part. > If a girls horoscope comes to me for marriage. > I will take it to a astrologer who will first > comment, > "are bhai Yeh toh Aries Lagna hai, aur Mars baitha hai > lagna mein, yeh ladki toh bilkul nahi chalegi aapko. Your life will > become hell, she will try to control You all Your life. Aap doosri > kundli lao koi doosari ladki ki.This is what most astrologers > will do. Next week I find that this girl has been married to a > guy next door and this girl was Aishwarya Rai.How come ? > Had he checked the sublord of the ascendant he would have found > that the sublord of the ascendant is Venus, then the whole picture > changes. Same Lagna, same planet placement, but sublord > Venus would make the whole story different. Now this > girl though commanding would also possess Venusian qualities > which would give some pacification and flexibility > to her commanding nature, along with feminine traits , > which point would have been missed by the astrologer in question. > Had the sublord been Sun then the astrolgers observations would have > been too small, the girl would have been totally authoratarian. > > Same goes with 7th cusp etc. etc. > Whenever we check the item in question say, children, property, > Gains, then we treat the Cusp as Lagna and the sublord as the > main pivot for giving results. Just like Moon is treated as > main for normal Lagna and the Nakshatra lord becomes > significator for the Dasha operating in ones life, same > way check the diffrent cusps for giving the exact results > of the query in question. > > Nowadays many astrolgers who are open to such researches without any > bias have proved the efficiency of such sytems in the cause > of deciding good or bad, and the whole impact in a nutshell is > different than what looks apparently. > > But the arguments can also be put on the other side of the wall ? How > can one prove that the happy marriages are working because of destiny > and not because they have done compatibility tests ? > > Some thoughts to ponder upon ? > > Aise issues aap khade kar diya karo. Mujhe anand aata hai discuss > karne mein, ek limit tak parantu. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish > wrote: >> >> Dear Bhaskar ji, >> >> I am not arguing..You have read my question wrong. I made a very > simple statement. and it has nothing to do with relevance of > astrology. We all know that, jyotish works..that is why we are here > on the forum. >> >> I rephrase it. Is compatibility test a remedial measure !! Please > check the statistics of the married couple - who have compatibility > test done and married life is not that great. So, my additional > question - has it worked? >> >> BTW, more than 70% of marriages are failures - in terms of personal > satisfactions (emotional, mental, physical, progeny issues etc). Do > you feel that, those people have missed compatibility tests? >> >> Yes, I may tend to agree that - most failed marriages have > compatibility issues. But vice versa is yet to be proven!!! >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To > never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity > of life around you. >> >> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty >> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate > what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to > watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, > to forget. >> >> >>> >>> bhaskar_jyotish >>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:47:24 -0000 >>> >>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>> >>> I like Your English and enjoy reading Your posts. >>> You also like to argue, and I like that. >>> The answer to Your argument contains in Your approach to the > issue. >>> >>> a) Those who are happily married after having compatibility tests >>> done, would You call it as destiny, or due to astrologers > capability >>> of doing a good job ? >>> >>> b) Those who are unhappily married after having compatibility > tests >>> done,would You call it as destiny,or due to astrologers > incapability >>> to do a good job ? >>> >>> If You think that an astrologer has no job in the above in >>> either harming (Which You have accepted in remedies),or >>> in making good the above cases, then astrology is not the right >>> subject for us to persue. >>> >>> Now, >>> a)In most of the cases where the destiny is irreperable and the >>> native has to suffer, he may not have a janma kundli, or will not >>> come out of the cupboard at the time of marriage, or even >>> if it come out may not be shown to a good astrologer, or even if >>> shown to a good astrologer, he may not be in a proper mood and > make >>> mistakes in seeing the Kundli etc.. >>> >>> b) Where the destiny is repairable,and mistake is made by >>> going to a wrong astrologer ,You may call it destiny, I >>> would call it astrologers mistake , but at the same time >>> your destiny may rectify that marriage by a divorce to >>> the first marriage and a happy one to the second. >>> >>> >>> See if I know my liver is bad or weak as my Kundli if my Jup >>> is afflicted , then whose mistake if I am drinking one quarter >>> whisky daily ? >>> >>> See if I know my time is good for making money and if I sit at > home >>> and just enjoy resting on the bed watching TV, for that dasha and >>> waste time, then whose fault is it ? I should be making hay while >>> Sun shines which I am not. >>> >>> But in both cases (Whisky and watching TV)who is the person to > give >>> me knowledge that my liver is bad or time is good ? >>> Undoubtedly the astrologer . Isnt it ? >>> Therefore and hence the astrolgers seriousness of watching a chart >>> and predicting properly, does have a say very much, in deliverance >>> of actions on part of the native. >>> >>> regards, >>> Bhaskar. >>> >>> >>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> As a post event issue, it may be a factor to define as to why did >>> this happen? But has anyone been able to avoid the disaster or > could >>> bring domestic / marital happiness - by having marriage through >>> compatibility tests (if one is not destined !!!). I am eagerly >>> listening. >>>> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>> >>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To >>> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar > disparity >>> of life around you. >>>> >>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty >>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate >>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to >>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, > never, >>> to forget. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:50:21 -0000 >>>>> >>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>>>> >>>>> Chart compatibility is a serious issue which many advisors >>>>> neither take seriously nor take pains nor want to understand the >>>>> gravity of. Many families have been wrecked and those who have > not >>>>> divorced are living a hell life, because their charts have not >>> been >>>>> checked properly before marriage. Now that is another way to > save >>>>> face that, they were destined to live like that only,so when can >>> be >>>>> do. This explanation does not hold true in all cases. Just Guna, >>>>> Nadi dosha etc. or points checking is not going to help in >>> solitary, >>>>> it hs to be supplemented- we have also to check whether the boy >>> (If >>>>> Girl wants to marry) is having a good Dasha coming in life after >>>>> marriage, finance sectors, whether he is capable of sustaining > the >>>>> daily expenditures, and also health factors apart from other >>> ones , >>>>> in a boys horoscope.,before giving our verdict. >>>>> >>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> , "bhaskar_jyotish" >>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> VERY TRUE. >>>>>> >>>>>> regards, >>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> , Prafulla Gang > <jyotish@> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Domestic life has increasingly become challenge for > professional >>>>>> stress and so on, for current generations. The chart >>> compatibility >>>>>> issue, I never explored - even for myself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lagna lord in 7th,even in enemy sign - does not harm it; for >>>>>> marital issues - watch for 7th house, 8th house, 2nd house, 7th >>>>> from >>>>>> venus, UL, navamsha lagna, 7th in D9, 2nd from UL; venus for > man >>>>> and >>>>>> mars for female nativity. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked >>> league >>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, in >>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:36:00 -0000 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good one. Even tuning of one wife or ones wife is a great >>> thing, >>>>>>>> forget wives. >>>>>>>> Great are those people who have a loving wife,who is waiting >>>>>>>> sweetly at the door, at the end of the day waiting for her > man, >>>>>>>> with a sweet smile on the face, and a sweet word, even if the >>>>>>>> man brings home only Rs. 50- >>>>>>>> A person whose wife always has good words and praise for her >>>>>>>> husband in his front or behind his back, can be considered a >>>>> real >>>>>>>> succesful man,I could say in this world, though he may not > have >>>>>>>> enough in the wordly sense. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ya.now to reply to You, wife can agree...wives cannot. >>>>>>>> Bhai abhi tak try nahi kiya hai, aapke sentence ke latter >>>>>>>> part ko,. Mauka nahi mila. Kuch experience hai to bataiye. >>>>>>>> Seekhenge aap se. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> , Prafulla Gang >>>>> <jyotish@> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have wives, be happy >>>>> with >>>>>>>> wife. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked >>>>> league >>>>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, > in >>>>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> YEAH. >>>>>>>>>> Fine tuning is required. >>>>>>>>>> I know to do for Charts bit wives .......? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> , "jaibabedi2004" >>>>>>>>>> <jaibabedi@> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> , "bhaskar_jyotish" >>>>>>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words. >>>>>>>>>>>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You will find >>>>>> difference >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your own house. >>>>> Computer >>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>> show different time, Your mobile will show different > time, >>>>>> Your >>>>>>>>>>>> wall clock will show different time, your wrist watch > will >>>>>> show >>>>>>>>>>>> different time. So how can You expect that for every > birth >>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>>>>>> noted would be perfect ?" >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In most cases where precesion or accuracy is required > while >>>>>>>>>>>> addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth time is going > to >>>>>>>>>> create >>>>>>>>>>>> hurdles for delieantion of results and predictions given > to >>>>>>>>>> client >>>>>>>>>>>> may not match, >>>>>>>>>>>> resulting in bad name to astrologer and the science > itself. >>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore it is always better to verify the birth time > and >>>>>>>>>> confirm >>>>>>>>>>>> the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress whichever Bhava >>>>>> question >>>>>>>>>>>> and answer we are looking for. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bombay >>>>>>>>>>>> Cell-9323522663 >>>>>>>>>>>> Landline- 022-24330886 >>>>>>>>>>>> Private email - rajiventerprises@ >>>>>>>>>>>> Consultations from this Astrologer are not Charged >>>>>>>>>>>> on Forum, but by Private Mail, Telephone, or any >>>>>>>>>>>> other way, would be charged. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> __________ >>>> FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your >>> friends and family! >>>> Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! >>>> >> >> __________ >> GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool > features! >> Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more! >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 In my observations: Another issue - most astrologers in india live on compatibility test and muhurta. It amounts to 70% + income of an astrologer (if we list out 1000 astrologers randomly); hence this issue was never commented to be not working !!! This is more of commercial reasons than jyotish reasons for its pursuance by jyotishis. I did not match compatibility; and on one ocassion - this was done by an astrologer friend (comptent one) - in recent years. It was not that great - but marriage has been reasonably successful on most parameters. What does it mean ?? regards / Prafulla Gang To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity of life around you. To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, to forget. > > bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:25:27 -0000 > > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > > > Dear Prafullaji, > > A small example why marriage compatibility tests fail ? > It also requires proper competency on our part. > If a girls horoscope comes to me for marriage. > I will take it to a astrologer who will first > comment, > "are bhai Yeh toh Aries Lagna hai, aur Mars baitha hai > lagna mein, yeh ladki toh bilkul nahi chalegi aapko. Your life will > become hell, she will try to control You all Your life. Aap doosri > kundli lao koi doosari ladki ki.This is what most astrologers > will do. Next week I find that this girl has been married to a > guy next door and this girl was Aishwarya Rai.How come ? > Had he checked the sublord of the ascendant he would have found > that the sublord of the ascendant is Venus, then the whole picture > changes. Same Lagna, same planet placement, but sublord > Venus would make the whole story different. Now this > girl though commanding would also possess Venusian qualities > which would give some pacification and flexibility > to her commanding nature, along with feminine traits , > which point would have been missed by the astrologer in question. > Had the sublord been Sun then the astrolgers observations would have > been too small, the girl would have been totally authoratarian. > > Same goes with 7th cusp etc. etc. > Whenever we check the item in question say, children, property, > Gains, then we treat the Cusp as Lagna and the sublord as the > main pivot for giving results. Just like Moon is treated as > main for normal Lagna and the Nakshatra lord becomes > significator for the Dasha operating in ones life, same > way check the diffrent cusps for giving the exact results > of the query in question. > > Nowadays many astrolgers who are open to such researches without any > bias have proved the efficiency of such sytems in the cause > of deciding good or bad, and the whole impact in a nutshell is > different than what looks apparently. > > But the arguments can also be put on the other side of the wall ? How > can one prove that the happy marriages are working because of destiny > and not because they have done compatibility tests ? > > Some thoughts to ponder upon ? > > Aise issues aap khade kar diya karo. Mujhe anand aata hai discuss > karne mein, ek limit tak parantu. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish > wrote: >> >> Dear Bhaskar ji, >> >> I am not arguing..You have read my question wrong. I made a very > simple statement. and it has nothing to do with relevance of > astrology. We all know that, jyotish works..that is why we are here > on the forum. >> >> I rephrase it. Is compatibility test a remedial measure !! Please > check the statistics of the married couple - who have compatibility > test done and married life is not that great. So, my additional > question - has it worked? >> >> BTW, more than 70% of marriages are failures - in terms of personal > satisfactions (emotional, mental, physical, progeny issues etc). Do > you feel that, those people have missed compatibility tests? >> >> Yes, I may tend to agree that - most failed marriages have > compatibility issues. But vice versa is yet to be proven!!! >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To > never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity > of life around you. >> >> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty >> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate > what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to > watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, > to forget. >> >> >>> >>> bhaskar_jyotish >>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:47:24 -0000 >>> >>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>> >>> I like Your English and enjoy reading Your posts. >>> You also like to argue, and I like that. >>> The answer to Your argument contains in Your approach to the > issue. >>> >>> a) Those who are happily married after having compatibility tests >>> done, would You call it as destiny, or due to astrologers > capability >>> of doing a good job ? >>> >>> b) Those who are unhappily married after having compatibility > tests >>> done,would You call it as destiny,or due to astrologers > incapability >>> to do a good job ? >>> >>> If You think that an astrologer has no job in the above in >>> either harming (Which You have accepted in remedies),or >>> in making good the above cases, then astrology is not the right >>> subject for us to persue. >>> >>> Now, >>> a)In most of the cases where the destiny is irreperable and the >>> native has to suffer, he may not have a janma kundli, or will not >>> come out of the cupboard at the time of marriage, or even >>> if it come out may not be shown to a good astrologer, or even if >>> shown to a good astrologer, he may not be in a proper mood and > make >>> mistakes in seeing the Kundli etc.. >>> >>> b) Where the destiny is repairable,and mistake is made by >>> going to a wrong astrologer ,You may call it destiny, I >>> would call it astrologers mistake , but at the same time >>> your destiny may rectify that marriage by a divorce to >>> the first marriage and a happy one to the second. >>> >>> >>> See if I know my liver is bad or weak as my Kundli if my Jup >>> is afflicted , then whose mistake if I am drinking one quarter >>> whisky daily ? >>> >>> See if I know my time is good for making money and if I sit at > home >>> and just enjoy resting on the bed watching TV, for that dasha and >>> waste time, then whose fault is it ? I should be making hay while >>> Sun shines which I am not. >>> >>> But in both cases (Whisky and watching TV)who is the person to > give >>> me knowledge that my liver is bad or time is good ? >>> Undoubtedly the astrologer . Isnt it ? >>> Therefore and hence the astrolgers seriousness of watching a chart >>> and predicting properly, does have a say very much, in deliverance >>> of actions on part of the native. >>> >>> regards, >>> Bhaskar. >>> >>> >>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> As a post event issue, it may be a factor to define as to why did >>> this happen? But has anyone been able to avoid the disaster or > could >>> bring domestic / marital happiness - by having marriage through >>> compatibility tests (if one is not destined !!!). I am eagerly >>> listening. >>>> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>> >>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To >>> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar > disparity >>> of life around you. >>>> >>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty >>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate >>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to >>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, > never, >>> to forget. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:50:21 -0000 >>>>> >>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>>>> >>>>> Chart compatibility is a serious issue which many advisors >>>>> neither take seriously nor take pains nor want to understand the >>>>> gravity of. Many families have been wrecked and those who have > not >>>>> divorced are living a hell life, because their charts have not >>> been >>>>> checked properly before marriage. Now that is another way to > save >>>>> face that, they were destined to live like that only,so when can >>> be >>>>> do. This explanation does not hold true in all cases. Just Guna, >>>>> Nadi dosha etc. or points checking is not going to help in >>> solitary, >>>>> it hs to be supplemented- we have also to check whether the boy >>> (If >>>>> Girl wants to marry) is having a good Dasha coming in life after >>>>> marriage, finance sectors, whether he is capable of sustaining > the >>>>> daily expenditures, and also health factors apart from other >>> ones , >>>>> in a boys horoscope.,before giving our verdict. >>>>> >>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> , "bhaskar_jyotish" >>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> VERY TRUE. >>>>>> >>>>>> regards, >>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> , Prafulla Gang > <jyotish@> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Domestic life has increasingly become challenge for > professional >>>>>> stress and so on, for current generations. The chart >>> compatibility >>>>>> issue, I never explored - even for myself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lagna lord in 7th,even in enemy sign - does not harm it; for >>>>>> marital issues - watch for 7th house, 8th house, 2nd house, 7th >>>>> from >>>>>> venus, UL, navamsha lagna, 7th in D9, 2nd from UL; venus for > man >>>>> and >>>>>> mars for female nativity. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked >>> league >>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, in >>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:36:00 -0000 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good one. Even tuning of one wife or ones wife is a great >>> thing, >>>>>>>> forget wives. >>>>>>>> Great are those people who have a loving wife,who is waiting >>>>>>>> sweetly at the door, at the end of the day waiting for her > man, >>>>>>>> with a sweet smile on the face, and a sweet word, even if the >>>>>>>> man brings home only Rs. 50- >>>>>>>> A person whose wife always has good words and praise for her >>>>>>>> husband in his front or behind his back, can be considered a >>>>> real >>>>>>>> succesful man,I could say in this world, though he may not > have >>>>>>>> enough in the wordly sense. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ya.now to reply to You, wife can agree...wives cannot. >>>>>>>> Bhai abhi tak try nahi kiya hai, aapke sentence ke latter >>>>>>>> part ko,. Mauka nahi mila. Kuch experience hai to bataiye. >>>>>>>> Seekhenge aap se. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> , Prafulla Gang >>>>> <jyotish@> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have wives, be happy >>>>> with >>>>>>>> wife. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked >>>>> league >>>>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, > in >>>>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> YEAH. >>>>>>>>>> Fine tuning is required. >>>>>>>>>> I know to do for Charts bit wives .......? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> , "jaibabedi2004" >>>>>>>>>> <jaibabedi@> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> , "bhaskar_jyotish" >>>>>>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words. >>>>>>>>>>>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You will find >>>>>> difference >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your own house. >>>>> Computer >>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>> show different time, Your mobile will show different > time, >>>>>> Your >>>>>>>>>>>> wall clock will show different time, your wrist watch > will >>>>>> show >>>>>>>>>>>> different time. So how can You expect that for every > birth >>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>>>>>> noted would be perfect ?" >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In most cases where precesion or accuracy is required > while >>>>>>>>>>>> addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth time is going > to >>>>>>>>>> create >>>>>>>>>>>> hurdles for delieantion of results and predictions given > to >>>>>>>>>> client >>>>>>>>>>>> may not match, >>>>>>>>>>>> resulting in bad name to astrologer and the science > itself. >>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore it is always better to verify the birth time > and >>>>>>>>>> confirm >>>>>>>>>>>> the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress whichever Bhava >>>>>> question >>>>>>>>>>>> and answer we are looking for. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bombay >>>>>>>>>>>> Cell-9323522663 >>>>>>>>>>>> Landline- 022-24330886 >>>>>>>>>>>> Private email - rajiventerprises@ >>>>>>>>>>>> Consultations from this Astrologer are not Charged >>>>>>>>>>>> on Forum, but by Private Mail, Telephone, or any >>>>>>>>>>>> other way, would be charged. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> __________ >>>> FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your >>> friends and family! >>>> Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! >>>> >> >> __________ >> GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool > features! >> Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more! >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Shri Prafullaji, I just entered few minutes back and wanted your mail to be replied last, because I have to think before replying to You. I mean really think, otherwise You will entangle me with my own statements. Your questions and my answers. (a) Is compatibility test a remedial measure !! ( b) Please check the statistics of the married couple - who have compatibility test done and married life is not that great. © So, my additional question - has it worked? Ans- a) Compatibility test is definitely a remedial measure just like we carry an umbrella before leaving home, and see that its raining, or may rain. b) Life is not great because they both must have not got a repairable destiny to make their lives happy after marriage, so as many compatibility tests they do, its not going to matter. c) It must have worked where we find that after compatibility tests done between few horoscopes the final match when got married are living happily . Thats what we can say when we see them living happily.We have no reason to think otherwise. .. ---- ---- ----------- BTW, more than 70% of marriages are failures - in terms of personal satisfactions (emotional, mental, physical, progeny issues etc). Do you feel that, those people have missed compatibility tests? Ans- A few of them must have missed compatibilty tests to repair their marriages. And for others it may not have been repairable so they never reached astrologers as such. ---- ---- --------- (a) if the native is destined to have a successful marriage- will he still require compatibility test (any technique). (b) And can it fail -if he happens to marry someone, with whom his chart compatibility fails. Ans- a) If he is destined to have a succesful marriage , he may still require a compatibility test so that if he finds another someone who is also destined to have a succesful marriage then their union can roar happily all the way. b) It will not fail if he marries someone with whom his compatibility chart fails, but the happiness destined for him may be reduced by his own undoing That would be a new or naveen karma for him. ---- ---- --------- I did not match compatibility; and on one ocassion - this was done by an astrologer friend (comptent one) - in recent years. It was not that great - but marriage has been reasonably successful on most parameters. What does it mean ?? Ans- It means that You are among the lucky lot. So enjoy my dear. why spend time in making me answer Your hard questions ? ---- ---- ----------- My comments- Destiny has a great role to play. But so Has Karma. Destiny may have given me a good business oppurtunity to shine in the Film world. I may not have taken the oppurtunity. I may have opted to some other profession. Whatever we cannot explain even after appropriate astrological remedial measures taken , can be put in Destiny or Fate, it is as simple as that. If by using astrology a person can change the total course of life, then astrologers would not be sitting here and giving free consultations. They would have so much public at their doors that every evening I would have had 2-3 men to take all cash received to deposit in Bank locker. Astrology can only be seen as a science to indicate, to forewarn, and of course also make changes wherever allowed, at the same time get ready for the incoming danger or bad influences to reduce them by appropriate remedial measures. For total changing of ones destiny You got to be Bhakta Prahlad or Prince Dhruva. Common people can only reduce the bad effects or get ready for it, but not totally negate it. If fmeasures are there to reduce, then why not ? But before that dont we need an astrologer to tell us ki Bhai yeh ho sakta hai, aapko tayaar rahna padega . Comments on marriages - If after watching a persons horoscope You come to conclusion that yeh aadmi ki marriage mein divorce nahin hoga but marriage mein happiness bhi nahin hogi. What will You do ? Will You advise him not to get married ? If he is my close relative then I will get married him to a girl whose horoscope shows success in her marriage. That way they both will get combined effects of each other so ultimate marriage may be okay, neither happy nor tragedy. You will now say that why are You spoiling that girls life by putting him to this man ? Then maybe I will reply You, dekho is admi ke paas paise bahut hai, joh ladki ki kundli mein nahin hai, aur is ladki ki kundli mein shaadi ka sukh hai joh is ladke ki kundli mein nahin hai., isi liye maine dono ko woh de diya joh unko jaroorat thi. It is like mixing up of fates in a joint family. Even if a person has Sadesathi at times he will not feel bad effects if he is living in joint family, Now the question is that the astrologer should be smart enough in mixing. This is where all the key of succesfull and succesful marriages as regards to astrologers, lies. regards, Bhaskar. , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > In my observations: > > Another issue - most astrologers in india live on compatibility test and muhurta. It amounts to 70% + income of an astrologer (if we list out 1000 astrologers randomly); hence this issue was never commented to be not working !!! This is more of commercial reasons than jyotish reasons for its pursuance by jyotishis. > > I did not match compatibility; and on one ocassion - this was done by an astrologer friend (comptent one) - in recent years. It was not that great - but marriage has been reasonably successful on most parameters. What does it mean ?? > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity of life around you. > > To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty > to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, to forget. > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish > > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:25:27 -0000 > > > > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > > > > > > Dear Prafullaji, > > > > A small example why marriage compatibility tests fail ? > > It also requires proper competency on our part. > > If a girls horoscope comes to me for marriage. > > I will take it to a astrologer who will first > > comment, > > "are bhai Yeh toh Aries Lagna hai, aur Mars baitha hai > > lagna mein, yeh ladki toh bilkul nahi chalegi aapko. Your life will > > become hell, she will try to control You all Your life. Aap doosri > > kundli lao koi doosari ladki ki.This is what most astrologers > > will do. Next week I find that this girl has been married to a > > guy next door and this girl was Aishwarya Rai.How come ? > > Had he checked the sublord of the ascendant he would have found > > that the sublord of the ascendant is Venus, then the whole picture > > changes. Same Lagna, same planet placement, but sublord > > Venus would make the whole story different. Now this > > girl though commanding would also possess Venusian qualities > > which would give some pacification and flexibility > > to her commanding nature, along with feminine traits , > > which point would have been missed by the astrologer in question. > > Had the sublord been Sun then the astrolgers observations would have > > been too small, the girl would have been totally authoratarian. > > > > Same goes with 7th cusp etc. etc. > > Whenever we check the item in question say, children, property, > > Gains, then we treat the Cusp as Lagna and the sublord as the > > main pivot for giving results. Just like Moon is treated as > > main for normal Lagna and the Nakshatra lord becomes > > significator for the Dasha operating in ones life, same > > way check the diffrent cusps for giving the exact results > > of the query in question. > > > > Nowadays many astrolgers who are open to such researches without any > > bias have proved the efficiency of such sytems in the cause > > of deciding good or bad, and the whole impact in a nutshell is > > different than what looks apparently. > > > > But the arguments can also be put on the other side of the wall ? How > > can one prove that the happy marriages are working because of destiny > > and not because they have done compatibility tests ? > > > > Some thoughts to ponder upon ? > > > > Aise issues aap khade kar diya karo. Mujhe anand aata hai discuss > > karne mein, ek limit tak parantu. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > wrote: > >> > >> Dear Bhaskar ji, > >> > >> I am not arguing..You have read my question wrong. I made a very > > simple statement. and it has nothing to do with relevance of > > astrology. We all know that, jyotish works..that is why we are here > > on the forum. > >> > >> I rephrase it. Is compatibility test a remedial measure !! Please > > check the statistics of the married couple - who have compatibility > > test done and married life is not that great. So, my additional > > question - has it worked? > >> > >> BTW, more than 70% of marriages are failures - in terms of personal > > satisfactions (emotional, mental, physical, progeny issues etc). Do > > you feel that, those people have missed compatibility tests? > >> > >> Yes, I may tend to agree that - most failed marriages have > > compatibility issues. But vice versa is yet to be proven!!! > >> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > >> > >> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To > > never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity > > of life around you. > >> > >> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty > >> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate > > what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to > > watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, > > to forget. > >> > >> > >>> > >>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > >>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:47:24 -0000 > >>> > >>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > >>> > >>> I like Your English and enjoy reading Your posts. > >>> You also like to argue, and I like that. > >>> The answer to Your argument contains in Your approach to the > > issue. > >>> > >>> a) Those who are happily married after having compatibility tests > >>> done, would You call it as destiny, or due to astrologers > > capability > >>> of doing a good job ? > >>> > >>> b) Those who are unhappily married after having compatibility > > tests > >>> done,would You call it as destiny,or due to astrologers > > incapability > >>> to do a good job ? > >>> > >>> If You think that an astrologer has no job in the above in > >>> either harming (Which You have accepted in remedies),or > >>> in making good the above cases, then astrology is not the right > >>> subject for us to persue. > >>> > >>> Now, > >>> a)In most of the cases where the destiny is irreperable and the > >>> native has to suffer, he may not have a janma kundli, or will not > >>> come out of the cupboard at the time of marriage, or even > >>> if it come out may not be shown to a good astrologer, or even if > >>> shown to a good astrologer, he may not be in a proper mood and > > make > >>> mistakes in seeing the Kundli etc.. > >>> > >>> b) Where the destiny is repairable,and mistake is made by > >>> going to a wrong astrologer ,You may call it destiny, I > >>> would call it astrologers mistake , but at the same time > >>> your destiny may rectify that marriage by a divorce to > >>> the first marriage and a happy one to the second. > >>> > >>> > >>> See if I know my liver is bad or weak as my Kundli if my Jup > >>> is afflicted , then whose mistake if I am drinking one quarter > >>> whisky daily ? > >>> > >>> See if I know my time is good for making money and if I sit at > > home > >>> and just enjoy resting on the bed watching TV, for that dasha and > >>> waste time, then whose fault is it ? I should be making hay while > >>> Sun shines which I am not. > >>> > >>> But in both cases (Whisky and watching TV)who is the person to > > give > >>> me knowledge that my liver is bad or time is good ? > >>> Undoubtedly the astrologer . Isnt it ? > >>> Therefore and hence the astrolgers seriousness of watching a chart > >>> and predicting properly, does have a say very much, in deliverance > >>> of actions on part of the native. > >>> > >>> regards, > >>> Bhaskar. > >>> > >>> > >>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> As a post event issue, it may be a factor to define as to why did > >>> this happen? But has anyone been able to avoid the disaster or > > could > >>> bring domestic / marital happiness - by having marriage through > >>> compatibility tests (if one is not destined !!!). I am eagerly > >>> listening. > >>>> > >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>> > >>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To > >>> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar > > disparity > >>> of life around you. > >>>> > >>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty > >>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate > >>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to > >>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, > > never, > >>> to forget. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > >>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:50:21 -0000 > >>>>> > >>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > >>>>> > >>>>> Chart compatibility is a serious issue which many advisors > >>>>> neither take seriously nor take pains nor want to understand the > >>>>> gravity of. Many families have been wrecked and those who have > > not > >>>>> divorced are living a hell life, because their charts have not > >>> been > >>>>> checked properly before marriage. Now that is another way to > > save > >>>>> face that, they were destined to live like that only,so when can > >>> be > >>>>> do. This explanation does not hold true in all cases. Just Guna, > >>>>> Nadi dosha etc. or points checking is not going to help in > >>> solitary, > >>>>> it hs to be supplemented- we have also to check whether the boy > >>> (If > >>>>> Girl wants to marry) is having a good Dasha coming in life after > >>>>> marriage, finance sectors, whether he is capable of sustaining > > the > >>>>> daily expenditures, and also health factors apart from other > >>> ones , > >>>>> in a boys horoscope.,before giving our verdict. > >>>>> > >>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> , "bhaskar_jyotish" > >>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> VERY TRUE. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> regards, > >>>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> , Prafulla Gang > > <jyotish@> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Domestic life has increasingly become challenge for > > professional > >>>>>> stress and so on, for current generations. The chart > >>> compatibility > >>>>>> issue, I never explored - even for myself. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Lagna lord in 7th,even in enemy sign - does not harm it; for > >>>>>> marital issues - watch for 7th house, 8th house, 2nd house, 7th > >>>>> from > >>>>>> venus, UL, navamsha lagna, 7th in D9, 2nd from UL; venus for > > man > >>>>> and > >>>>>> mars for female nativity. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked > >>> league > >>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, in > >>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > >>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:36:00 -0000 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Good one. Even tuning of one wife or ones wife is a great > >>> thing, > >>>>>>>> forget wives. > >>>>>>>> Great are those people who have a loving wife,who is waiting > >>>>>>>> sweetly at the door, at the end of the day waiting for her > > man, > >>>>>>>> with a sweet smile on the face, and a sweet word, even if the > >>>>>>>> man brings home only Rs. 50- > >>>>>>>> A person whose wife always has good words and praise for her > >>>>>>>> husband in his front or behind his back, can be considered a > >>>>> real > >>>>>>>> succesful man,I could say in this world, though he may not > > have > >>>>>>>> enough in the wordly sense. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Ya.now to reply to You, wife can agree...wives cannot. > >>>>>>>> Bhai abhi tak try nahi kiya hai, aapke sentence ke latter > >>>>>>>> part ko,. Mauka nahi mila. Kuch experience hai to bataiye. > >>>>>>>> Seekhenge aap se. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> regards, > >>>>>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> , Prafulla Gang > >>>>> <jyotish@> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have wives, be happy > >>>>> with > >>>>>>>> wife. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked > >>>>> league > >>>>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, > > in > >>>>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > >>>>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000 > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> YEAH. > >>>>>>>>>> Fine tuning is required. > >>>>>>>>>> I know to do for Charts bit wives .......? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> , "jaibabedi2004" > >>>>>>>>>> <jaibabedi@> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> , "bhaskar_jyotish" > >>>>>>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words. > >>>>>>>>>>>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You will find > >>>>>> difference > >>>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>>>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your own house. > >>>>> Computer > >>>>>>>>>>> will > >>>>>>>>>>>> show different time, Your mobile will show different > > time, > >>>>>> Your > >>>>>>>>>>>> wall clock will show different time, your wrist watch > > will > >>>>>> show > >>>>>>>>>>>> different time. So how can You expect that for every > > birth > >>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>> time > >>>>>>>>>>>> noted would be perfect ?" > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> In most cases where precesion or accuracy is required > > while > >>>>>>>>>>>> addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth time is going > > to > >>>>>>>>>> create > >>>>>>>>>>>> hurdles for delieantion of results and predictions given > > to > >>>>>>>>>> client > >>>>>>>>>>>> may not match, > >>>>>>>>>>>> resulting in bad name to astrologer and the science > > itself. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore it is always better to verify the birth time > > and > >>>>>>>>>> confirm > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress whichever Bhava > >>>>>> question > >>>>>>>>>>>> and answer we are looking for. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> regards, > >>>>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Bombay > >>>>>>>>>>>> Cell-9323522663 > >>>>>>>>>>>> Landline- 022-24330886 > >>>>>>>>>>>> Private email - rajiventerprises@ > >>>>>>>>>>>> Consultations from this Astrologer are not Charged > >>>>>>>>>>>> on Forum, but by Private Mail, Telephone, or any > >>>>>>>>>>>> other way, would be charged. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>>> __________ > >>>> FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your > >>> friends and family! > >>>> Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! > >>>> > >> > >> __________ > >> GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool > > features! > >> Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more! > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Dear Shri Kumar ji Yes, 2nd from 7th and UL are important for its longeivity. regards / Prafulla Gang To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity of life around you. To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, to forget. > > gbp_kumar > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:20:21 -0700 (PDT) > > RE: Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? matching...16/8 > > Prafulla, > well this can be still done and best way is when profesionals during > stressfull times are away from each other so the pain there but not the > one that hurts and counter hurts. in ego clashis if they were face2face > then. matching charts this way is a plus point. > > and here as u said 8th matters more, MORE AS CONTRACT how long this > contract lasts than 7th [marriage] how long thismarriage lasts as we see > all interm sof gains, net income, net balances, net loans, net > repayments net relief. etc. etc. > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: > Domestic life has increasingly become challenge for professional stress > and so on, for current generations. The chart compatibility issue, I > never explored - even for myself. > > Lagna lord in 7th,even in enemy sign - does not harm it; for marital > issues - watch for 7th house, 8th house, 2nd house, 7th from venus, UL, > navamsha lagna, 7th in D9, 2nd from UL; venus for man and mars for > female nativity. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked league with > the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, in wickedness a > league beyond the devil. > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in > > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:36:00 -0000 > > > > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > > > > Good one. Even tuning of one wife or ones wife is a great thing, > > forget wives. > > Great are those people who have a loving wife,who is waiting > > sweetly at the door, at the end of the day waiting for her man, > > with a sweet smile on the face, and a sweet word, even if the > > man brings home only Rs. 50- > > A person whose wife always has good words and praise for her > > husband in his front or behind his back, can be considered a real > > succesful man,I could say in this world, though he may not have > > enough in the wordly sense. > > > > Ya.now to reply to You, wife can agree...wives cannot. > > Bhai abhi tak try nahi kiya hai, aapke sentence ke latter > > part ko,. Mauka nahi mila. Kuch experience hai to bataiye. > > Seekhenge aap se. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish > > wrote: > >> > >> Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have wives, be happy with > > wife. > >> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > >> > >> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked league > > with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, in > > wickedness a league beyond the devil. > >> > >> > >>> > >>> bhaskar_jyotish > >>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000 > >>> > >>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > >>> > >>> YEAH. > >>> Fine tuning is required. > >>> I know to do for Charts bit wives .......? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> , "jaibabedi2004" > >>> <jaibabedi@> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> , "bhaskar_jyotish" > >>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Dear Friends, > >>>>> > >>>>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words. > >>>>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You will find difference > >>> of > >>>>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your own house. Computer > >>>> will > >>>>> show different time, Your mobile will show different time, Your > >>>>> wall clock will show different time, your wrist watch will show > >>>>> different time. So how can You expect that for every birth the > >>>> time > >>>>> noted would be perfect ?" > >>>>> > >>>>> In most cases where precesion or accuracy is required while > >>>>> addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth time is going to > >>> create > >>>>> hurdles for delieantion of results and predictions given to > >>> client > >>>>> may not match, > >>>>> resulting in bad name to astrologer and the science itself. > >>>>> Therefore it is always better to verify the birth time and > >>> confirm > >>>>> the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress whichever Bhava question > >>>>> and answer we are looking for. > >>>>> > >>>>> regards, > >>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>> > >>>>> Bombay > >>>>> Cell-9323522663 > >>>>> Landline- 022-24330886 > >>>>> Private email - rajiventerprises@ > >>>>> Consultations from this Astrologer are not Charged > >>>>> on Forum, but by Private Mail, Telephone, or any > >>>>> other way, would be charged. > >>>>> > >>>> > >> > > > > > > Prashantkumar G B > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on group > but > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or phone. > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID also > > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar > 09840051861 > > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail Beta. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Dear Bhaskar ji So prima facie factor is repairability of destiny !! How to determine this? If destiny is repairable (as you stated) - things are manageable, even if chart is not matched. Vice versa is also true, as per you. So, firstly - we must read repairability of destiny and then opt for compatibility test (if required!!). Sir, I still repeat - marital compatibility tests are practised more by commercial astrologers from revenue perspective. Whether, it guarantees successful marriage or not is something, where I requested an answer..not Ifs and Buts. I have seen atleast 50 sample charts, where astrologers claimed that they have things not matching to requisite levels ..but they have reasonably successful marriage. Success of marriage is much more than compatibility tests. People need to understand each other and adjust to each other & circumstances. regards / Prafulla Gang To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity of life around you. To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, to forget. > > bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 15:35:39 -0000 > > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > > Shri Prafullaji, > > I just entered few minutes back and wanted your mail to be replied > last, because I have > to think before replying to You. I mean really think, otherwise You > will entangle me with > my own statements. > > Your questions and my answers. > > (a) Is compatibility test a remedial measure !! ( b) Please check the > statistics of the married couple - who have compatibility test done > and married > life is not that great. © So, my additional question - has it > worked? > > Ans- a) Compatibility test is definitely a remedial measure just like > we carry an umbrella before leaving home, > and see that its raining, or may rain. > > b) Life is not great because they both must have not got a repairable > destiny > to make their lives happy after marriage, so as many compatibility > tests they do, > its not going to matter. > > c) It must have worked where we find that after compatibility tests > done > between few horoscopes the final match when got married are living > happily . > Thats what we can say when we see them living happily.We have > no reason to think otherwise. > . > ---- > ---- > ----------- > > BTW, more than 70% of marriages are failures - in terms of personal > satisfactions (emotional, mental, physical, progeny issues etc). Do > you feel > that, those people have missed compatibility tests? > Ans- A few of them must have missed compatibilty tests to > repair their marriages. And for others it may not have been > repairable > so they never reached astrologers as such. > > > ---- > ---- > --------- > > > (a) if the native is destined to have a successful > marriage- will he still require compatibility test (any technique). > (b) And can it fail -if he happens to marry someone, with whom his > chart compatibility fails. > > Ans- a) If he is destined to have a succesful marriage , he may > still > require a compatibility test so that if he finds another someone who > is also > destined to have a succesful marriage then their union can roar > happily all the way. > > b) It will not fail if he marries someone with whom his > compatibility chart fails, > but the happiness destined for him may be reduced by his own undoing > That would be a new or naveen karma for him. > > ---- > ---- > --------- > > I did not match compatibility; and on one ocassion - this was done by > an > astrologer friend (comptent one) - in recent years. It was not that > great - but > marriage has been reasonably successful on most parameters. What does > it mean ?? > Ans- It means that You are among the lucky lot. So enjoy my dear. why > spend time in making me answer Your hard questions ? > ---- > ---- > ----------- > > My comments- > Destiny has a great role to play. But so Has Karma. Destiny may have > given me a > good business oppurtunity to shine in the Film world. I may not have > taken the oppurtunity. > I may have opted to some other profession. Whatever we cannot > explain even after > appropriate astrological remedial measures taken , can be put in > Destiny or Fate, > it is as simple as that. > If by using astrology a person can change the total course of life, > then astrologers would not > be sitting here and giving free consultations. They would have so > much public at their > doors that every evening I would have had 2-3 men to take all cash > received to deposit in Bank locker. > > Astrology can only be seen as a science to indicate, to forewarn, and > of course also make > changes wherever allowed, at the same time get ready for the incoming > danger or bad > influences to reduce them by appropriate remedial measures. > For total changing of ones destiny You got to be Bhakta Prahlad or > Prince Dhruva. > Common people can only reduce the bad effects or get ready for it, > but not totally negate it. > If fmeasures are there to reduce, then why not ? But before that dont > we need an astrologer to > tell us ki Bhai yeh ho sakta hai, aapko tayaar rahna padega . > > Comments on marriages - > If after watching a persons horoscope You come to conclusion that yeh > aadmi ki > marriage mein divorce nahin hoga but marriage mein happiness bhi > nahin hogi. > What will You do ? Will You advise him not to get married ? If he is > my close relative > then I will get married him to a girl whose horoscope shows success > in her marriage. > That way they both will get combined effects of each other so > ultimate marriage may > be okay, neither happy nor tragedy. You will now say that why are > You spoiling that > girls life by putting him to this man ? Then maybe I will reply You, > dekho is admi ke > paas paise bahut hai, joh ladki ki kundli mein nahin hai, aur is > ladki ki kundli > mein shaadi ka sukh hai joh is ladke ki kundli mein nahin hai., isi > liye maine > dono ko woh de diya joh unko jaroorat thi. > > It is like mixing up of fates in a joint family. Even if a person has > Sadesathi at times > he will not feel bad effects if he is living in joint family, Now the > question is that the > astrologer should be smart enough in mixing. > > This is where all the key of succesfull and succesful marriages as > regards to > astrologers, lies. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish > wrote: >> >> In my observations: >> >> Another issue - most astrologers in india live on compatibility > test and muhurta. It amounts to 70% + income of an astrologer (if we > list out 1000 astrologers randomly); hence this issue was never > commented to be not working !!! This is more of commercial reasons > than jyotish reasons for its pursuance by jyotishis. >> >> I did not match compatibility; and on one ocassion - this was done > by an astrologer friend (comptent one) - in recent years. It was not > that great - but marriage has been reasonably successful on most > parameters. What does it mean ?? >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To > never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity > of life around you. >> >> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty >> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate > what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to > watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, > to forget. >> >> >>> >>> bhaskar_jyotish >>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:25:27 -0000 >>> >>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>> >>> >>> Dear Prafullaji, >>> >>> A small example why marriage compatibility tests fail ? >>> It also requires proper competency on our part. >>> If a girls horoscope comes to me for marriage. >>> I will take it to a astrologer who will first >>> comment, >>> "are bhai Yeh toh Aries Lagna hai, aur Mars baitha hai >>> lagna mein, yeh ladki toh bilkul nahi chalegi aapko. Your life > will >>> become hell, she will try to control You all Your life. Aap doosri >>> kundli lao koi doosari ladki ki.This is what most astrologers >>> will do. Next week I find that this girl has been married to a >>> guy next door and this girl was Aishwarya Rai.How come ? >>> Had he checked the sublord of the ascendant he would have found >>> that the sublord of the ascendant is Venus, then the whole picture >>> changes. Same Lagna, same planet placement, but sublord >>> Venus would make the whole story different. Now this >>> girl though commanding would also possess Venusian qualities >>> which would give some pacification and flexibility >>> to her commanding nature, along with feminine traits , >>> which point would have been missed by the astrologer in question. >>> Had the sublord been Sun then the astrolgers observations would > have >>> been too small, the girl would have been totally authoratarian. >>> >>> Same goes with 7th cusp etc. etc. >>> Whenever we check the item in question say, children, property, >>> Gains, then we treat the Cusp as Lagna and the sublord as the >>> main pivot for giving results. Just like Moon is treated as >>> main for normal Lagna and the Nakshatra lord becomes >>> significator for the Dasha operating in ones life, same >>> way check the diffrent cusps for giving the exact results >>> of the query in question. >>> >>> Nowadays many astrolgers who are open to such researches without > any >>> bias have proved the efficiency of such sytems in the cause >>> of deciding good or bad, and the whole impact in a nutshell is >>> different than what looks apparently. >>> >>> But the arguments can also be put on the other side of the wall ? > How >>> can one prove that the happy marriages are working because of > destiny >>> and not because they have done compatibility tests ? >>> >>> Some thoughts to ponder upon ? >>> >>> Aise issues aap khade kar diya karo. Mujhe anand aata hai discuss >>> karne mein, ek limit tak parantu. >>> >>> regards, >>> Bhaskar. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Bhaskar ji, >>>> >>>> I am not arguing..You have read my question wrong. I made a very >>> simple statement. and it has nothing to do with relevance of >>> astrology. We all know that, jyotish works..that is why we are > here >>> on the forum. >>>> >>>> I rephrase it. Is compatibility test a remedial measure !! Please >>> check the statistics of the married couple - who have > compatibility >>> test done and married life is not that great. So, my additional >>> question - has it worked? >>>> >>>> BTW, more than 70% of marriages are failures - in terms of > personal >>> satisfactions (emotional, mental, physical, progeny issues etc). > Do >>> you feel that, those people have missed compatibility tests? >>>> >>>> Yes, I may tend to agree that - most failed marriages have >>> compatibility issues. But vice versa is yet to be proven!!! >>>> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>> >>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To >>> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar > disparity >>> of life around you. >>>> >>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty >>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate >>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to >>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, > never, >>> to forget. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:47:24 -0000 >>>>> >>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>>>> >>>>> I like Your English and enjoy reading Your posts. >>>>> You also like to argue, and I like that. >>>>> The answer to Your argument contains in Your approach to the >>> issue. >>>>> >>>>> a) Those who are happily married after having compatibility > tests >>>>> done, would You call it as destiny, or due to astrologers >>> capability >>>>> of doing a good job ? >>>>> >>>>> b) Those who are unhappily married after having compatibility >>> tests >>>>> done,would You call it as destiny,or due to astrologers >>> incapability >>>>> to do a good job ? >>>>> >>>>> If You think that an astrologer has no job in the above in >>>>> either harming (Which You have accepted in remedies),or >>>>> in making good the above cases, then astrology is not the right >>>>> subject for us to persue. >>>>> >>>>> Now, >>>>> a)In most of the cases where the destiny is irreperable and the >>>>> native has to suffer, he may not have a janma kundli, or will > not >>>>> come out of the cupboard at the time of marriage, or even >>>>> if it come out may not be shown to a good astrologer, or even if >>>>> shown to a good astrologer, he may not be in a proper mood and >>> make >>>>> mistakes in seeing the Kundli etc.. >>>>> >>>>> b) Where the destiny is repairable,and mistake is made by >>>>> going to a wrong astrologer ,You may call it destiny, I >>>>> would call it astrologers mistake , but at the same time >>>>> your destiny may rectify that marriage by a divorce to >>>>> the first marriage and a happy one to the second. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> See if I know my liver is bad or weak as my Kundli if my Jup >>>>> is afflicted , then whose mistake if I am drinking one quarter >>>>> whisky daily ? >>>>> >>>>> See if I know my time is good for making money and if I sit at >>> home >>>>> and just enjoy resting on the bed watching TV, for that dasha > and >>>>> waste time, then whose fault is it ? I should be making hay > while >>>>> Sun shines which I am not. >>>>> >>>>> But in both cases (Whisky and watching TV)who is the person to >>> give >>>>> me knowledge that my liver is bad or time is good ? >>>>> Undoubtedly the astrologer . Isnt it ? >>>>> Therefore and hence the astrolgers seriousness of watching a > chart >>>>> and predicting properly, does have a say very much, in > deliverance >>>>> of actions on part of the native. >>>>> >>>>> regards, >>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> , Prafulla Gang > <jyotish@> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> As a post event issue, it may be a factor to define as to why > did >>>>> this happen? But has anyone been able to avoid the disaster or >>> could >>>>> bring domestic / marital happiness - by having marriage through >>>>> compatibility tests (if one is not destined !!!). I am eagerly >>>>> listening. >>>>>> >>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>>>> >>>>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. > To >>>>> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar >>> disparity >>>>> of life around you. >>>>>> >>>>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty >>>>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or > complicate >>>>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to >>>>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, >>> never, >>>>> to forget. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:50:21 -0000 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chart compatibility is a serious issue which many advisors >>>>>>> neither take seriously nor take pains nor want to understand > the >>>>>>> gravity of. Many families have been wrecked and those who have >>> not >>>>>>> divorced are living a hell life, because their charts have not >>>>> been >>>>>>> checked properly before marriage. Now that is another way to >>> save >>>>>>> face that, they were destined to live like that only,so when > can >>>>> be >>>>>>> do. This explanation does not hold true in all cases. Just > Guna, >>>>>>> Nadi dosha etc. or points checking is not going to help in >>>>> solitary, >>>>>>> it hs to be supplemented- we have also to check whether the > boy >>>>> (If >>>>>>> Girl wants to marry) is having a good Dasha coming in life > after >>>>>>> marriage, finance sectors, whether he is capable of sustaining >>> the >>>>>>> daily expenditures, and also health factors apart from other >>>>> ones , >>>>>>> in a boys horoscope.,before giving our verdict. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> , "bhaskar_jyotish" >>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> VERY TRUE. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> , Prafulla Gang >>> <jyotish@> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Domestic life has increasingly become challenge for >>> professional >>>>>>>> stress and so on, for current generations. The chart >>>>> compatibility >>>>>>>> issue, I never explored - even for myself. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lagna lord in 7th,even in enemy sign - does not harm it; for >>>>>>>> marital issues - watch for 7th house, 8th house, 2nd house, > 7th >>>>>>> from >>>>>>>> venus, UL, navamsha lagna, 7th in D9, 2nd from UL; venus for >>> man >>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> mars for female nativity. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked >>>>> league >>>>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, > in >>>>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:36:00 -0000 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Good one. Even tuning of one wife or ones wife is a great >>>>> thing, >>>>>>>>>> forget wives. >>>>>>>>>> Great are those people who have a loving wife,who is > waiting >>>>>>>>>> sweetly at the door, at the end of the day waiting for her >>> man, >>>>>>>>>> with a sweet smile on the face, and a sweet word, even if > the >>>>>>>>>> man brings home only Rs. 50- >>>>>>>>>> A person whose wife always has good words and praise for > her >>>>>>>>>> husband in his front or behind his back, can be considered > a >>>>>>> real >>>>>>>>>> succesful man,I could say in this world, though he may not >>> have >>>>>>>>>> enough in the wordly sense. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ya.now to reply to You, wife can agree...wives cannot. >>>>>>>>>> Bhai abhi tak try nahi kiya hai, aapke sentence ke latter >>>>>>>>>> part ko,. Mauka nahi mila. Kuch experience hai to bataiye. >>>>>>>>>> Seekhenge aap se. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> , Prafulla Gang >>>>>>> <jyotish@> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have wives, be > happy >>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>> wife. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked >>>>>>> league >>>>>>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, >>> in >>>>>>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>>>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> YEAH. >>>>>>>>>>>> Fine tuning is required. >>>>>>>>>>>> I know to do for Charts bit wives .......? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> , "jaibabedi2004" >>>>>>>>>>>> <jaibabedi@> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --- In > , "bhaskar_jyotish" >>>>>>>>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You will find >>>>>>>> difference >>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your own house. >>>>>>> Computer >>>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>>>> show different time, Your mobile will show different >>> time, >>>>>>>> Your >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wall clock will show different time, your wrist watch >>> will >>>>>>>> show >>>>>>>>>>>>>> different time. So how can You expect that for every >>> birth >>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>>>>>>>> noted would be perfect ?" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In most cases where precesion or accuracy is required >>> while >>>>>>>>>>>>>> addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth time is > going >>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> create >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hurdles for delieantion of results and predictions > given >>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> client >>>>>>>>>>>>>> may not match, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> resulting in bad name to astrologer and the science >>> itself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore it is always better to verify the birth time >>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> confirm >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress whichever Bhava >>>>>>>> question >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and answer we are looking for. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bombay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cell-9323522663 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Landline- 022-24330886 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Private email - rajiventerprises@ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Consultations from this Astrologer are not Charged >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on Forum, but by Private Mail, Telephone, or any >>>>>>>>>>>>>> other way, would be charged. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> __________ >>>>>> FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your >>>>> friends and family! >>>>>> Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! >>>>>> >>>> >>>> __________ >>>> GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool >>> features! >>>> Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more! >>>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Yes, I agree with orderly approach as key factor. regards / Prafulla Gang To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity of life around you. To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, to forget. > > gbp_kumar > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:54:08 -0700 (PDT) > > RE: Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? Matchin -16/8 p2 > > Prafulla, > we have some choice, not too much i said in a prev post today that when > there is a conflict time if they couple are away due to work it is a > blessing such matching is possible so indirect happiness. > another side is by prayers one gets a sense fo halt machinaism > fromwithin to not to strethc it too far- breaking popint those who r not > religious, by religious i dont mean here lighting a lamp, or praying, > aarti etc, mechanically.these r part of it not just the thing itself. > > religiously means doing something seriously in an orderly fashion, > review it etc. and expecting v little. > this can be someone at home who keeps things in order, or cleans things > and also watchs over the safety of the house unsaid or told just like > breathing any natural, orderly thing is religion. anyting done > machinacially is at best pretention and at the worst fanatism. > > MATCHING CAN BE DONE FOR BEST POSSIBLE HAPPINESS FOR A CHART=couple > surely by careful selection but we cant manipulate and get more than we > deserve but by being careless we can loose what mininum we deserve too. > choice god has given the Buddhi jivi. > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: > As a post event issue, it may be a factor to define as to why did this > happen? But has anyone been able to avoid the disaster or could bring > domestic / marital happiness - by having marriage through compatibility > tests (if one is not destined !!!). I am eagerly listening. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To never > get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity of life > around you. > > To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty > to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate what > is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to watch. To try > and understand. To never look away. And never, never, to forget. > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in > > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:50:21 -0000 > > > > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > > > > Chart compatibility is a serious issue which many advisors > > neither take seriously nor take pains nor want to understand the > > gravity of. Many families have been wrecked and those who have not > > divorced are living a hell life, because their charts have not been > > checked properly before marriage. Now that is another way to save > > face that, they were destined to live like that only,so when can be > > do. This explanation does not hold true in all cases. Just Guna, > > Nadi dosha etc. or points checking is not going to help in solitary, > > it hs to be supplemented- we have also to check whether the boy (If > > Girl wants to marry) is having a good Dasha coming in life after > > marriage, finance sectors, whether he is capable of sustaining the > > daily expenditures, and also health factors apart from other ones , > > in a boys horoscope.,before giving our verdict. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , "bhaskar_jyotish" > > <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > >> > >> VERY TRUE. > >> > >> regards, > >> Bhaskar. > >> > >> > >> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Domestic life has increasingly become challenge for professional > >> stress and so on, for current generations. The chart compatibility > >> issue, I never explored - even for myself. > >>> > >>> Lagna lord in 7th,even in enemy sign - does not harm it; for > >> marital issues - watch for 7th house, 8th house, 2nd house, 7th > > from > >> venus, UL, navamsha lagna, 7th in D9, 2nd from UL; venus for man > > and > >> mars for female nativity. > >>> > >>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>> > >>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked league > >> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, in > >> wickedness a league beyond the devil. > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > >>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:36:00 -0000 > >>>> > >>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > >>>> > >>>> Good one. Even tuning of one wife or ones wife is a great thing, > >>>> forget wives. > >>>> Great are those people who have a loving wife,who is waiting > >>>> sweetly at the door, at the end of the day waiting for her man, > >>>> with a sweet smile on the face, and a sweet word, even if the > >>>> man brings home only Rs. 50- > >>>> A person whose wife always has good words and praise for her > >>>> husband in his front or behind his back, can be considered a > > real > >>>> succesful man,I could say in this world, though he may not have > >>>> enough in the wordly sense. > >>>> > >>>> Ya.now to reply to You, wife can agree...wives cannot. > >>>> Bhai abhi tak try nahi kiya hai, aapke sentence ke latter > >>>> part ko,. Mauka nahi mila. Kuch experience hai to bataiye. > >>>> Seekhenge aap se. > >>>> > >>>> regards, > >>>> Bhaskar. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> , Prafulla Gang > > <jyotish@> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have wives, be happy > > with > >>>> wife. > >>>>> > >>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>>> > >>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked > > league > >>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, in > >>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > >>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> YEAH. > >>>>>> Fine tuning is required. > >>>>>> I know to do for Charts bit wives .......? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> , "jaibabedi2004" > >>>>>> <jaibabedi@> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> , "bhaskar_jyotish" > >>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear Friends, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words. > >>>>>>>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You will find > >> difference > >>>>>> of > >>>>>>>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your own house. > > Computer > >>>>>>> will > >>>>>>>> show different time, Your mobile will show different time, > >> Your > >>>>>>>> wall clock will show different time, your wrist watch will > >> show > >>>>>>>> different time. 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Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Dear Prafullaji, We cannot just push our point and unnecessarily put all astrologers to blame for the unhappy married lives of their clients. I have already said indirectly the expertise necessary to do this part. If You do not want ifs and buts then I am most fine with technical explanations. But if You want a technical explanation, then You will have to come on that level of technical understanding which I shall put before You, otherwise this too would be a waste of time. Any 7th Cusp Sublord if signifies 6,12,4,1 would prove a doom for marriage for the boy. In that case we have to get a girl in whose horoscope the 7th cusp signifies 2,7 and 11. If I marry this girl to the above boy, then his marriage will be saved. But if I get a girl whose 7th cusp also signifies 1,4,6,12 then it would be actually doom for that marriage. So astrologers can save marriages and break marriages, escept for dridha purva paap where the native is denied marital happiness, then he will never have a kundli, or proper time,or will not reach astrologer etc.etc. as already explained. Sir Arguments can be put 10000 (Ten thousand ) on this Forum. We need to address the difficulties and solve them instead. regards, Bhaskar. , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > So prima facie factor is repairability of destiny !! How to determine this? > > If destiny is repairable (as you stated) - things are manageable, even if chart is not matched. Vice versa is also true, as per you. > > So, firstly - we must read repairability of destiny and then opt for compatibility test (if required!!). > > Sir, I still repeat - marital compatibility tests are practised more by commercial astrologers from revenue perspective. Whether, it guarantees successful marriage or not is something, where I requested an answer..not Ifs and Buts. I have seen atleast 50 sample charts, where astrologers claimed that they have things not matching to requisite levels ..but they have reasonably successful marriage. Success of marriage is much more than compatibility tests. People need to understand each other and adjust to each other & circumstances. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity of life around you. > > To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty > to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, to forget. > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish > > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 15:35:39 -0000 > > > > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > > > > Shri Prafullaji, > > > > I just entered few minutes back and wanted your mail to be replied > > last, because I have > > to think before replying to You. I mean really think, otherwise You > > will entangle me with > > my own statements. > > > > Your questions and my answers. > > > > (a) Is compatibility test a remedial measure !! ( b) Please check the > > statistics of the married couple - who have compatibility test done > > and married > > life is not that great. © So, my additional question - has it > > worked? > > > > Ans- a) Compatibility test is definitely a remedial measure just like > > we carry an umbrella before leaving home, > > and see that its raining, or may rain. > > > > b) Life is not great because they both must have not got a repairable > > destiny > > to make their lives happy after marriage, so as many compatibility > > tests they do, > > its not going to matter. > > > > c) It must have worked where we find that after compatibility tests > > done > > between few horoscopes the final match when got married are living > > happily . > > Thats what we can say when we see them living happily.We have > > no reason to think otherwise. > > . > > ---- > > ---- > > ----------- > > > > BTW, more than 70% of marriages are failures - in terms of personal > > satisfactions (emotional, mental, physical, progeny issues etc). Do > > you feel > > that, those people have missed compatibility tests? > > Ans- A few of them must have missed compatibilty tests to > > repair their marriages. And for others it may not have been > > repairable > > so they never reached astrologers as such. > > > > > > ---- > > ---- > > --------- > > > > > > (a) if the native is destined to have a successful > > marriage- will he still require compatibility test (any technique). > > (b) And can it fail -if he happens to marry someone, with whom his > > chart compatibility fails. > > > > Ans- a) If he is destined to have a succesful marriage , he may > > still > > require a compatibility test so that if he finds another someone who > > is also > > destined to have a succesful marriage then their union can roar > > happily all the way. > > > > b) It will not fail if he marries someone with whom his > > compatibility chart fails, > > but the happiness destined for him may be reduced by his own undoing > > That would be a new or naveen karma for him. > > > > ---- > > ---- > > --------- > > > > I did not match compatibility; and on one ocassion - this was done by > > an > > astrologer friend (comptent one) - in recent years. It was not that > > great - but > > marriage has been reasonably successful on most parameters. What does > > it mean ?? > > Ans- It means that You are among the lucky lot. So enjoy my dear. why > > spend time in making me answer Your hard questions ? > > ---- > > ---- > > ----------- > > > > My comments- > > Destiny has a great role to play. But so Has Karma. Destiny may have > > given me a > > good business oppurtunity to shine in the Film world. I may not have > > taken the oppurtunity. > > I may have opted to some other profession. Whatever we cannot > > explain even after > > appropriate astrological remedial measures taken , can be put in > > Destiny or Fate, > > it is as simple as that. > > If by using astrology a person can change the total course of life, > > then astrologers would not > > be sitting here and giving free consultations. They would have so > > much public at their > > doors that every evening I would have had 2-3 men to take all cash > > received to deposit in Bank locker. > > > > Astrology can only be seen as a science to indicate, to forewarn, and > > of course also make > > changes wherever allowed, at the same time get ready for the incoming > > danger or bad > > influences to reduce them by appropriate remedial measures. > > For total changing of ones destiny You got to be Bhakta Prahlad or > > Prince Dhruva. > > Common people can only reduce the bad effects or get ready for it, > > but not totally negate it. > > If fmeasures are there to reduce, then why not ? But before that dont > > we need an astrologer to > > tell us ki Bhai yeh ho sakta hai, aapko tayaar rahna padega . > > > > Comments on marriages - > > If after watching a persons horoscope You come to conclusion that yeh > > aadmi ki > > marriage mein divorce nahin hoga but marriage mein happiness bhi > > nahin hogi. > > What will You do ? Will You advise him not to get married ? If he is > > my close relative > > then I will get married him to a girl whose horoscope shows success > > in her marriage. > > That way they both will get combined effects of each other so > > ultimate marriage may > > be okay, neither happy nor tragedy. You will now say that why are > > You spoiling that > > girls life by putting him to this man ? Then maybe I will reply You, > > dekho is admi ke > > paas paise bahut hai, joh ladki ki kundli mein nahin hai, aur is > > ladki ki kundli > > mein shaadi ka sukh hai joh is ladke ki kundli mein nahin hai., isi > > liye maine > > dono ko woh de diya joh unko jaroorat thi. > > > > It is like mixing up of fates in a joint family. Even if a person has > > Sadesathi at times > > he will not feel bad effects if he is living in joint family, Now the > > question is that the > > astrologer should be smart enough in mixing. > > > > This is where all the key of succesfull and succesful marriages as > > regards to > > astrologers, lies. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > wrote: > >> > >> In my observations: > >> > >> Another issue - most astrologers in india live on compatibility > > test and muhurta. It amounts to 70% + income of an astrologer (if we > > list out 1000 astrologers randomly); hence this issue was never > > commented to be not working !!! This is more of commercial reasons > > than jyotish reasons for its pursuance by jyotishis. > >> > >> I did not match compatibility; and on one ocassion - this was done > > by an astrologer friend (comptent one) - in recent years. It was not > > that great - but marriage has been reasonably successful on most > > parameters. What does it mean ?? > >> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > >> > >> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To > > never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity > > of life around you. > >> > >> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty > >> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate > > what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to > > watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, > > to forget. > >> > >> > >>> > >>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > >>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:25:27 -0000 > >>> > >>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > >>> > >>> > >>> Dear Prafullaji, > >>> > >>> A small example why marriage compatibility tests fail ? > >>> It also requires proper competency on our part. > >>> If a girls horoscope comes to me for marriage. > >>> I will take it to a astrologer who will first > >>> comment, > >>> "are bhai Yeh toh Aries Lagna hai, aur Mars baitha hai > >>> lagna mein, yeh ladki toh bilkul nahi chalegi aapko. Your life > > will > >>> become hell, she will try to control You all Your life. Aap doosri > >>> kundli lao koi doosari ladki ki.This is what most astrologers > >>> will do. Next week I find that this girl has been married to a > >>> guy next door and this girl was Aishwarya Rai.How come ? > >>> Had he checked the sublord of the ascendant he would have found > >>> that the sublord of the ascendant is Venus, then the whole picture > >>> changes. Same Lagna, same planet placement, but sublord > >>> Venus would make the whole story different. Now this > >>> girl though commanding would also possess Venusian qualities > >>> which would give some pacification and flexibility > >>> to her commanding nature, along with feminine traits , > >>> which point would have been missed by the astrologer in question. > >>> Had the sublord been Sun then the astrolgers observations would > > have > >>> been too small, the girl would have been totally authoratarian. > >>> > >>> Same goes with 7th cusp etc. etc. > >>> Whenever we check the item in question say, children, property, > >>> Gains, then we treat the Cusp as Lagna and the sublord as the > >>> main pivot for giving results. Just like Moon is treated as > >>> main for normal Lagna and the Nakshatra lord becomes > >>> significator for the Dasha operating in ones life, same > >>> way check the diffrent cusps for giving the exact results > >>> of the query in question. > >>> > >>> Nowadays many astrolgers who are open to such researches without > > any > >>> bias have proved the efficiency of such sytems in the cause > >>> of deciding good or bad, and the whole impact in a nutshell is > >>> different than what looks apparently. > >>> > >>> But the arguments can also be put on the other side of the wall ? > > How > >>> can one prove that the happy marriages are working because of > > destiny > >>> and not because they have done compatibility tests ? > >>> > >>> Some thoughts to ponder upon ? > >>> > >>> Aise issues aap khade kar diya karo. Mujhe anand aata hai discuss > >>> karne mein, ek limit tak parantu. > >>> > >>> regards, > >>> Bhaskar. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Dear Bhaskar ji, > >>>> > >>>> I am not arguing..You have read my question wrong. I made a very > >>> simple statement. and it has nothing to do with relevance of > >>> astrology. We all know that, jyotish works..that is why we are > > here > >>> on the forum. > >>>> > >>>> I rephrase it. Is compatibility test a remedial measure !! Please > >>> check the statistics of the married couple - who have > > compatibility > >>> test done and married life is not that great. So, my additional > >>> question - has it worked? > >>>> > >>>> BTW, more than 70% of marriages are failures - in terms of > > personal > >>> satisfactions (emotional, mental, physical, progeny issues etc). > > Do > >>> you feel that, those people have missed compatibility tests? > >>>> > >>>> Yes, I may tend to agree that - most failed marriages have > >>> compatibility issues. But vice versa is yet to be proven!!! > >>>> > >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>> > >>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To > >>> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar > > disparity > >>> of life around you. > >>>> > >>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty > >>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate > >>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to > >>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, > > never, > >>> to forget. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > >>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:47:24 -0000 > >>>>> > >>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > >>>>> > >>>>> I like Your English and enjoy reading Your posts. > >>>>> You also like to argue, and I like that. > >>>>> The answer to Your argument contains in Your approach to the > >>> issue. > >>>>> > >>>>> a) Those who are happily married after having compatibility > > tests > >>>>> done, would You call it as destiny, or due to astrologers > >>> capability > >>>>> of doing a good job ? > >>>>> > >>>>> b) Those who are unhappily married after having compatibility > >>> tests > >>>>> done,would You call it as destiny,or due to astrologers > >>> incapability > >>>>> to do a good job ? > >>>>> > >>>>> If You think that an astrologer has no job in the above in > >>>>> either harming (Which You have accepted in remedies),or > >>>>> in making good the above cases, then astrology is not the right > >>>>> subject for us to persue. > >>>>> > >>>>> Now, > >>>>> a)In most of the cases where the destiny is irreperable and the > >>>>> native has to suffer, he may not have a janma kundli, or will > > not > >>>>> come out of the cupboard at the time of marriage, or even > >>>>> if it come out may not be shown to a good astrologer, or even if > >>>>> shown to a good astrologer, he may not be in a proper mood and > >>> make > >>>>> mistakes in seeing the Kundli etc.. > >>>>> > >>>>> b) Where the destiny is repairable,and mistake is made by > >>>>> going to a wrong astrologer ,You may call it destiny, I > >>>>> would call it astrologers mistake , but at the same time > >>>>> your destiny may rectify that marriage by a divorce to > >>>>> the first marriage and a happy one to the second. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> See if I know my liver is bad or weak as my Kundli if my Jup > >>>>> is afflicted , then whose mistake if I am drinking one quarter > >>>>> whisky daily ? > >>>>> > >>>>> See if I know my time is good for making money and if I sit at > >>> home > >>>>> and just enjoy resting on the bed watching TV, for that dasha > > and > >>>>> waste time, then whose fault is it ? I should be making hay > > while > >>>>> Sun shines which I am not. > >>>>> > >>>>> But in both cases (Whisky and watching TV)who is the person to > >>> give > >>>>> me knowledge that my liver is bad or time is good ? > >>>>> Undoubtedly the astrologer . Isnt it ? > >>>>> Therefore and hence the astrolgers seriousness of watching a > > chart > >>>>> and predicting properly, does have a say very much, in > > deliverance > >>>>> of actions on part of the native. > >>>>> > >>>>> regards, > >>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> , Prafulla Gang > > <jyotish@> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> As a post event issue, it may be a factor to define as to why > > did > >>>>> this happen? But has anyone been able to avoid the disaster or > >>> could > >>>>> bring domestic / marital happiness - by having marriage through > >>>>> compatibility tests (if one is not destined !!!). I am eagerly > >>>>> listening. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>>>> > >>>>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. > > To > >>>>> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar > >>> disparity > >>>>> of life around you. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty > >>>>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or > > complicate > >>>>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to > >>>>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, > >>> never, > >>>>> to forget. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > >>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:50:21 -0000 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Chart compatibility is a serious issue which many advisors > >>>>>>> neither take seriously nor take pains nor want to understand > > the > >>>>>>> gravity of. Many families have been wrecked and those who have > >>> not > >>>>>>> divorced are living a hell life, because their charts have not > >>>>> been > >>>>>>> checked properly before marriage. Now that is another way to > >>> save > >>>>>>> face that, they were destined to live like that only,so when > > can > >>>>> be > >>>>>>> do. This explanation does not hold true in all cases. Just > > Guna, > >>>>>>> Nadi dosha etc. or points checking is not going to help in > >>>>> solitary, > >>>>>>> it hs to be supplemented- we have also to check whether the > > boy > >>>>> (If > >>>>>>> Girl wants to marry) is having a good Dasha coming in life > > after > >>>>>>> marriage, finance sectors, whether he is capable of sustaining > >>> the > >>>>>>> daily expenditures, and also health factors apart from other > >>>>> ones , > >>>>>>> in a boys horoscope.,before giving our verdict. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> , "bhaskar_jyotish" > >>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> VERY TRUE. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> regards, > >>>>>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> , Prafulla Gang > >>> <jyotish@> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Domestic life has increasingly become challenge for > >>> professional > >>>>>>>> stress and so on, for current generations. The chart > >>>>> compatibility > >>>>>>>> issue, I never explored - even for myself. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Lagna lord in 7th,even in enemy sign - does not harm it; for > >>>>>>>> marital issues - watch for 7th house, 8th house, 2nd house, > > 7th > >>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>> venus, UL, navamsha lagna, 7th in D9, 2nd from UL; venus for > >>> man > >>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> mars for female nativity. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked > >>>>> league > >>>>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, > > in > >>>>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > >>>>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:36:00 -0000 > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Good one. Even tuning of one wife or ones wife is a great > >>>>> thing, > >>>>>>>>>> forget wives. > >>>>>>>>>> Great are those people who have a loving wife,who is > > waiting > >>>>>>>>>> sweetly at the door, at the end of the day waiting for her > >>> man, > >>>>>>>>>> with a sweet smile on the face, and a sweet word, even if > > the > >>>>>>>>>> man brings home only Rs. 50- > >>>>>>>>>> A person whose wife always has good words and praise for > > her > >>>>>>>>>> husband in his front or behind his back, can be considered > > a > >>>>>>> real > >>>>>>>>>> succesful man,I could say in this world, though he may not > >>> have > >>>>>>>>>> enough in the wordly sense. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Ya.now to reply to You, wife can agree...wives cannot. > >>>>>>>>>> Bhai abhi tak try nahi kiya hai, aapke sentence ke latter > >>>>>>>>>> part ko,. Mauka nahi mila. Kuch experience hai to bataiye. > >>>>>>>>>> Seekhenge aap se. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> regards, > >>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> , Prafulla Gang > >>>>>>> <jyotish@> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have wives, be > > happy > >>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>>>> wife. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked > >>>>>>> league > >>>>>>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, > >>> in > >>>>>>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > >>>>>>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000 > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> YEAH. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Fine tuning is required. > >>>>>>>>>>>> I know to do for Charts bit wives .......? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> , "jaibabedi2004" > >>>>>>>>>>>> <jaibabedi@> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> --- In > > , "bhaskar_jyotish" > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You will find > >>>>>>>> difference > >>>>>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your own house. > >>>>>>> Computer > >>>>>>>>>>>>> will > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> show different time, Your mobile will show different > >>> time, > >>>>>>>> Your > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wall clock will show different time, your wrist watch > >>> will > >>>>>>>> show > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> different time. So how can You expect that for every > >>> birth > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> time > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> noted would be perfect ?" > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In most cases where precesion or accuracy is required > >>> while > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth time is > > going > >>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>> create > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hurdles for delieantion of results and predictions > > given > >>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>> client > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> may not match, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> resulting in bad name to astrologer and the science > >>> itself. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore it is always better to verify the birth time > >>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>> confirm > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress whichever Bhava > >>>>>>>> question > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and answer we are looking for. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> regards, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bombay > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cell-9323522663 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Landline- 022-24330886 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Private email - rajiventerprises@ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Consultations from this Astrologer are not Charged > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on Forum, but by Private Mail, Telephone, or any > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> other way, would be charged. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> __________ > >>>>>> FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your > >>>>> friends and family! > >>>>>> Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>>> __________ > >>>> GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool > >>> features! > >>>> Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more! > >>>> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Agreed sir..I withdraw uncomfortable comments. regards / Prafulla Gang To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity of life around you. To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, to forget. > > bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:33:03 -0000 > > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > > Dear Prafullaji, > > We cannot just push our point and unnecessarily put all astrologers > to blame for the unhappy married lives of their clients. > I have already said indirectly the expertise necessary to do this > part. > > If You do not want ifs and buts then I am most fine with technical > explanations. > But if You want a technical explanation, then You will have to come > on that level of technical understanding which I shall put before > You, otherwise this too would be a waste of time. > > > Any 7th Cusp Sublord if signifies 6,12,4,1 would prove a doom for > marriage for the boy. > In that case we have to get a girl in whose horoscope the 7th > cusp signifies 2,7 and 11. > > If I marry this girl to the above boy, then his marriage will be > saved. > > But if I get a girl whose 7th cusp also signifies 1,4,6,12 > then it would be actually doom for that marriage. > > So astrologers can save marriages and break marriages, > escept for dridha purva paap where the native is denied > marital happiness, then he will never have a kundli, or proper > time,or will not reach astrologer etc.etc. as already explained. > > Sir Arguments can be put 10000 (Ten thousand ) on this Forum. We need > to address the difficulties and solve them instead. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish > wrote: >> >> Dear Bhaskar ji >> >> So prima facie factor is repairability of destiny !! How to > determine this? >> >> If destiny is repairable (as you stated) - things are manageable, > even if chart is not matched. Vice versa is also true, as per you. >> >> So, firstly - we must read repairability of destiny and then opt > for compatibility test (if required!!). >> >> Sir, I still repeat - marital compatibility tests are practised > more by commercial astrologers from revenue perspective. Whether, it > guarantees successful marriage or not is something, where I requested > an answer..not Ifs and Buts. I have seen atleast 50 sample charts, > where astrologers claimed that they have things not matching to > requisite levels ..but they have reasonably successful marriage. > Success of marriage is much more than compatibility tests. People > need to understand each other and adjust to each other & > circumstances. >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To > never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity > of life around you. >> >> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty >> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate > what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to > watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, > to forget. >> >> >>> >>> bhaskar_jyotish >>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 15:35:39 -0000 >>> >>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>> >>> Shri Prafullaji, >>> >>> I just entered few minutes back and wanted your mail to be replied >>> last, because I have >>> to think before replying to You. I mean really think, otherwise > You >>> will entangle me with >>> my own statements. >>> >>> Your questions and my answers. >>> >>> (a) Is compatibility test a remedial measure !! ( b) Please check > the >>> statistics of the married couple - who have compatibility test > done >>> and married >>> life is not that great. © So, my additional question - has it >>> worked? >>> >>> Ans- a) Compatibility test is definitely a remedial measure just > like >>> we carry an umbrella before leaving home, >>> and see that its raining, or may rain. >>> >>> b) Life is not great because they both must have not got a > repairable >>> destiny >>> to make their lives happy after marriage, so as many compatibility >>> tests they do, >>> its not going to matter. >>> >>> c) It must have worked where we find that after compatibility > tests >>> done >>> between few horoscopes the final match when got married are living >>> happily . >>> Thats what we can say when we see them living happily.We have >>> no reason to think otherwise. >>> . >>> > ---- >>> > ---- >>> ----------- >>> >>> BTW, more than 70% of marriages are failures - in terms of > personal >>> satisfactions (emotional, mental, physical, progeny issues etc). > Do >>> you feel >>> that, those people have missed compatibility tests? >>> Ans- A few of them must have missed compatibilty tests to >>> repair their marriages. And for others it may not have been >>> repairable >>> so they never reached astrologers as such. >>> >>> >>> > ---- >>> > ---- >>> --------- >>> >>> >>> (a) if the native is destined to have a successful >>> marriage- will he still require compatibility test (any > technique). >>> (b) And can it fail -if he happens to marry someone, with whom his >>> chart compatibility fails. >>> >>> Ans- a) If he is destined to have a succesful marriage , he may >>> still >>> require a compatibility test so that if he finds another someone > who >>> is also >>> destined to have a succesful marriage then their union can roar >>> happily all the way. >>> >>> b) It will not fail if he marries someone with whom his >>> compatibility chart fails, >>> but the happiness destined for him may be reduced by his own > undoing >>> That would be a new or naveen karma for him. >>> >>> > ---- >>> > ---- >>> --------- >>> >>> I did not match compatibility; and on one ocassion - this was > done by >>> an >>> astrologer friend (comptent one) - in recent years. It was not > that >>> great - but >>> marriage has been reasonably successful on most parameters. What > does >>> it mean ?? >>> Ans- It means that You are among the lucky lot. So enjoy my dear. > why >>> spend time in making me answer Your hard questions ? >>> > ---- >>> > ---- >>> ----------- >>> >>> My comments- >>> Destiny has a great role to play. But so Has Karma. Destiny may > have >>> given me a >>> good business oppurtunity to shine in the Film world. I may not > have >>> taken the oppurtunity. >>> I may have opted to some other profession. Whatever we cannot >>> explain even after >>> appropriate astrological remedial measures taken , can be put in >>> Destiny or Fate, >>> it is as simple as that. >>> If by using astrology a person can change the total course of > life, >>> then astrologers would not >>> be sitting here and giving free consultations. They would have so >>> much public at their >>> doors that every evening I would have had 2-3 men to take all cash >>> received to deposit in Bank locker. >>> >>> Astrology can only be seen as a science to indicate, to forewarn, > and >>> of course also make >>> changes wherever allowed, at the same time get ready for the > incoming >>> danger or bad >>> influences to reduce them by appropriate remedial measures. >>> For total changing of ones destiny You got to be Bhakta Prahlad or >>> Prince Dhruva. >>> Common people can only reduce the bad effects or get ready for it, >>> but not totally negate it. >>> If fmeasures are there to reduce, then why not ? But before that > dont >>> we need an astrologer to >>> tell us ki Bhai yeh ho sakta hai, aapko tayaar rahna padega . >>> >>> Comments on marriages - >>> If after watching a persons horoscope You come to conclusion that > yeh >>> aadmi ki >>> marriage mein divorce nahin hoga but marriage mein happiness bhi >>> nahin hogi. >>> What will You do ? Will You advise him not to get married ? If he > is >>> my close relative >>> then I will get married him to a girl whose horoscope shows > success >>> in her marriage. >>> That way they both will get combined effects of each other so >>> ultimate marriage may >>> be okay, neither happy nor tragedy. You will now say that why > are >>> You spoiling that >>> girls life by putting him to this man ? Then maybe I will reply > You, >>> dekho is admi ke >>> paas paise bahut hai, joh ladki ki kundli mein nahin hai, aur is >>> ladki ki kundli >>> mein shaadi ka sukh hai joh is ladke ki kundli mein nahin hai., > isi >>> liye maine >>> dono ko woh de diya joh unko jaroorat thi. >>> >>> It is like mixing up of fates in a joint family. Even if a person > has >>> Sadesathi at times >>> he will not feel bad effects if he is living in joint family, Now > the >>> question is that the >>> astrologer should be smart enough in mixing. >>> >>> This is where all the key of succesfull and succesful marriages as >>> regards to >>> astrologers, lies. >>> >>> regards, >>> Bhaskar. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> In my observations: >>>> >>>> Another issue - most astrologers in india live on compatibility >>> test and muhurta. It amounts to 70% + income of an astrologer (if > we >>> list out 1000 astrologers randomly); hence this issue was never >>> commented to be not working !!! This is more of commercial reasons >>> than jyotish reasons for its pursuance by jyotishis. >>>> >>>> I did not match compatibility; and on one ocassion - this was > done >>> by an astrologer friend (comptent one) - in recent years. It was > not >>> that great - but marriage has been reasonably successful on most >>> parameters. What does it mean ?? >>>> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>> >>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To >>> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar > disparity >>> of life around you. >>>> >>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty >>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate >>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to >>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, > never, >>> to forget. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:25:27 -0000 >>>>> >>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear Prafullaji, >>>>> >>>>> A small example why marriage compatibility tests fail ? >>>>> It also requires proper competency on our part. >>>>> If a girls horoscope comes to me for marriage. >>>>> I will take it to a astrologer who will first >>>>> comment, >>>>> "are bhai Yeh toh Aries Lagna hai, aur Mars baitha hai >>>>> lagna mein, yeh ladki toh bilkul nahi chalegi aapko. Your life >>> will >>>>> become hell, she will try to control You all Your life. Aap > doosri >>>>> kundli lao koi doosari ladki ki.This is what most astrologers >>>>> will do. Next week I find that this girl has been married to a >>>>> guy next door and this girl was Aishwarya Rai.How come ? >>>>> Had he checked the sublord of the ascendant he would have found >>>>> that the sublord of the ascendant is Venus, then the whole > picture >>>>> changes. Same Lagna, same planet placement, but sublord >>>>> Venus would make the whole story different. Now this >>>>> girl though commanding would also possess Venusian qualities >>>>> which would give some pacification and flexibility >>>>> to her commanding nature, along with feminine traits , >>>>> which point would have been missed by the astrologer in > question. >>>>> Had the sublord been Sun then the astrolgers observations would >>> have >>>>> been too small, the girl would have been totally authoratarian. >>>>> >>>>> Same goes with 7th cusp etc. etc. >>>>> Whenever we check the item in question say, children, property, >>>>> Gains, then we treat the Cusp as Lagna and the sublord as the >>>>> main pivot for giving results. Just like Moon is treated as >>>>> main for normal Lagna and the Nakshatra lord becomes >>>>> significator for the Dasha operating in ones life, same >>>>> way check the diffrent cusps for giving the exact results >>>>> of the query in question. >>>>> >>>>> Nowadays many astrolgers who are open to such researches without >>> any >>>>> bias have proved the efficiency of such sytems in the cause >>>>> of deciding good or bad, and the whole impact in a nutshell is >>>>> different than what looks apparently. >>>>> >>>>> But the arguments can also be put on the other side of the > wall ? >>> How >>>>> can one prove that the happy marriages are working because of >>> destiny >>>>> and not because they have done compatibility tests ? >>>>> >>>>> Some thoughts to ponder upon ? >>>>> >>>>> Aise issues aap khade kar diya karo. Mujhe anand aata hai > discuss >>>>> karne mein, ek limit tak parantu. >>>>> >>>>> regards, >>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> , Prafulla Gang > <jyotish@> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Bhaskar ji, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am not arguing..You have read my question wrong. I made a > very >>>>> simple statement. and it has nothing to do with relevance of >>>>> astrology. We all know that, jyotish works..that is why we are >>> here >>>>> on the forum. >>>>>> >>>>>> I rephrase it. Is compatibility test a remedial measure !! > Please >>>>> check the statistics of the married couple - who have >>> compatibility >>>>> test done and married life is not that great. So, my additional >>>>> question - has it worked? >>>>>> >>>>>> BTW, more than 70% of marriages are failures - in terms of >>> personal >>>>> satisfactions (emotional, mental, physical, progeny issues etc). >>> Do >>>>> you feel that, those people have missed compatibility tests? >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, I may tend to agree that - most failed marriages have >>>>> compatibility issues. But vice versa is yet to be proven!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>>>> >>>>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. > To >>>>> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar >>> disparity >>>>> of life around you. >>>>>> >>>>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty >>>>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or > complicate >>>>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to >>>>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, >>> never, >>>>> to forget. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:47:24 -0000 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I like Your English and enjoy reading Your posts. >>>>>>> You also like to argue, and I like that. >>>>>>> The answer to Your argument contains in Your approach to the >>>>> issue. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> a) Those who are happily married after having compatibility >>> tests >>>>>>> done, would You call it as destiny, or due to astrologers >>>>> capability >>>>>>> of doing a good job ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> b) Those who are unhappily married after having compatibility >>>>> tests >>>>>>> done,would You call it as destiny,or due to astrologers >>>>> incapability >>>>>>> to do a good job ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If You think that an astrologer has no job in the above in >>>>>>> either harming (Which You have accepted in remedies),or >>>>>>> in making good the above cases, then astrology is not the > right >>>>>>> subject for us to persue. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now, >>>>>>> a)In most of the cases where the destiny is irreperable and > the >>>>>>> native has to suffer, he may not have a janma kundli, or will >>> not >>>>>>> come out of the cupboard at the time of marriage, or even >>>>>>> if it come out may not be shown to a good astrologer, or even > if >>>>>>> shown to a good astrologer, he may not be in a proper mood and >>>>> make >>>>>>> mistakes in seeing the Kundli etc.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> b) Where the destiny is repairable,and mistake is made by >>>>>>> going to a wrong astrologer ,You may call it destiny, I >>>>>>> would call it astrologers mistake , but at the same time >>>>>>> your destiny may rectify that marriage by a divorce to >>>>>>> the first marriage and a happy one to the second. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> See if I know my liver is bad or weak as my Kundli if my Jup >>>>>>> is afflicted , then whose mistake if I am drinking one quarter >>>>>>> whisky daily ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> See if I know my time is good for making money and if I sit at >>>>> home >>>>>>> and just enjoy resting on the bed watching TV, for that dasha >>> and >>>>>>> waste time, then whose fault is it ? I should be making hay >>> while >>>>>>> Sun shines which I am not. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But in both cases (Whisky and watching TV)who is the person to >>>>> give >>>>>>> me knowledge that my liver is bad or time is good ? >>>>>>> Undoubtedly the astrologer . Isnt it ? >>>>>>> Therefore and hence the astrolgers seriousness of watching a >>> chart >>>>>>> and predicting properly, does have a say very much, in >>> deliverance >>>>>>> of actions on part of the native. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> , Prafulla Gang >>> <jyotish@> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As a post event issue, it may be a factor to define as to why >>> did >>>>>>> this happen? But has anyone been able to avoid the disaster or >>>>> could >>>>>>> bring domestic / marital happiness - by having marriage > through >>>>>>> compatibility tests (if one is not destined !!!). I am eagerly >>>>>>> listening. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own > insignificance. >>> To >>>>>>> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar >>>>> disparity >>>>>>> of life around you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty >>>>>>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or >>> complicate >>>>>>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, > to >>>>>>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, >>>>> never, >>>>>>> to forget. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:50:21 -0000 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Chart compatibility is a serious issue which many advisors >>>>>>>>> neither take seriously nor take pains nor want to understand >>> the >>>>>>>>> gravity of. Many families have been wrecked and those who > have >>>>> not >>>>>>>>> divorced are living a hell life, because their charts have > not >>>>>>> been >>>>>>>>> checked properly before marriage. Now that is another way to >>>>> save >>>>>>>>> face that, they were destined to live like that only,so when >>> can >>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>> do. This explanation does not hold true in all cases. Just >>> Guna, >>>>>>>>> Nadi dosha etc. or points checking is not going to help in >>>>>>> solitary, >>>>>>>>> it hs to be supplemented- we have also to check whether the >>> boy >>>>>>> (If >>>>>>>>> Girl wants to marry) is having a good Dasha coming in life >>> after >>>>>>>>> marriage, finance sectors, whether he is capable of > sustaining >>>>> the >>>>>>>>> daily expenditures, and also health factors apart from other >>>>>>> ones , >>>>>>>>> in a boys horoscope.,before giving our verdict. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> , "bhaskar_jyotish" >>>>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> VERY TRUE. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> , Prafulla Gang >>>>> <jyotish@> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Domestic life has increasingly become challenge for >>>>> professional >>>>>>>>>> stress and so on, for current generations. The chart >>>>>>> compatibility >>>>>>>>>> issue, I never explored - even for myself. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Lagna lord in 7th,even in enemy sign - does not harm it; > for >>>>>>>>>> marital issues - watch for 7th house, 8th house, 2nd house, >>> 7th >>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>> venus, UL, navamsha lagna, 7th in D9, 2nd from UL; venus > for >>>>> man >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> mars for female nativity. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked >>>>>>> league >>>>>>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, >>> in >>>>>>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>>>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:36:00 -0000 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Good one. Even tuning of one wife or ones wife is a great >>>>>>> thing, >>>>>>>>>>>> forget wives. >>>>>>>>>>>> Great are those people who have a loving wife,who is >>> waiting >>>>>>>>>>>> sweetly at the door, at the end of the day waiting for > her >>>>> man, >>>>>>>>>>>> with a sweet smile on the face, and a sweet word, even if >>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> man brings home only Rs. 50- >>>>>>>>>>>> A person whose wife always has good words and praise for >>> her >>>>>>>>>>>> husband in his front or behind his back, can be > considered >>> a >>>>>>>>> real >>>>>>>>>>>> succesful man,I could say in this world, though he may > not >>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>> enough in the wordly sense. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ya.now to reply to You, wife can agree...wives cannot. >>>>>>>>>>>> Bhai abhi tak try nahi kiya hai, aapke sentence ke latter >>>>>>>>>>>> part ko,. Mauka nahi mila. Kuch experience hai to > bataiye. >>>>>>>>>>>> Seekhenge aap se. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> , Prafulla Gang >>>>>>>>> <jyotish@> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have wives, be >>> happy >>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>> wife. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a > wicked >>>>>>>>> league >>>>>>>>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young > woman, >>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> YEAH. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fine tuning is required. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know to do for Charts bit wives .......? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- In > , "jaibabedi2004" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jaibabedi@> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- In >>> , "bhaskar_jyotish" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You will find >>>>>>>>>> difference >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your own house. >>>>>>>>> Computer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show different time, Your mobile will show different >>>>> time, >>>>>>>>>> Your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wall clock will show different time, your wrist watch >>>>> will >>>>>>>>>> show >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different time. So how can You expect that for every >>>>> birth >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noted would be perfect ?" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In most cases where precesion or accuracy is required >>>>> while >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth time is >>> going >>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> create >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hurdles for delieantion of results and predictions >>> given >>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> client >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> may not match, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resulting in bad name to astrologer and the science >>>>> itself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore it is always better to verify the birth > time >>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> confirm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress whichever > Bhava >>>>>>>>>> question >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and answer we are looking for. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bombay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cell-9323522663 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Landline- 022-24330886 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Private email - rajiventerprises@ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Consultations from this Astrologer are not Charged >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on Forum, but by Private Mail, Telephone, or any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other way, would be charged. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> __________ >>>>>>>> FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your >>>>>>> friends and family! >>>>>>>> Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> __________ >>>>>> GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool >>>>> features! >>>>>> Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more! >>>>>> >>>> >> __________ GET FREE 5GB ONLINE STORAGE - Safely store your documents, photos and music online! 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Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Dear Prafullji, Mr Prafullaji So prima facie factor is repairability of destiny !! How to determine this? Ans-Bhaskar. Astrologically it is possible to ascertain whether a problem is repairable or not. I will not give details about it. because already I have given enough,theres no end to arguing. If it was not repairable then how could Shri Parashar Maharaj give remedies in Sanskrit slokas of his great texts, which wvene a person knowing normal hindi can understand, no need to get scholarship in Sanskrit. This Forum itself would not exist (Jyotish Remedies ) if a problem was not repairable. Mr.Prafullaji So, firstly - we must read repairability of destiny and then opt for compatibility test (if required!!). Ans-Bhaskar. If any astrologer (Good one) reads a chart it automatically means he has read in totality, and if You as a native have gone to show him your chart then naturally You will also go to him with a girls chart to ask him, so no question of first , second or third. If You take Your chart it is understood that when You receive a girls then that also would be taken to the astrologer. You would not be foolish that You would know about yourself but not want to know about the girl. Prafullaji- marital compatibility tests are practised more by commercial astrologers from revenue perspective. Whether, it guarantees successful marriage or not is something, where I requested an answer..not Ifs and Buts. I have seen atleast 50 sample charts, where astrologers claimed that they have things not matching to requisite levels ..but they have reasonably successful marriage. Success of marriage is much more than compatibility tests. People need to understand each other and adjust to each other & circumstances. Ans- Already on many occasions in my mails I have mentioned that it may not guaranntee succesfulmarriage if the astrologer does not know his job. After the Khicdi has been spoilt either You eat it or throw it, In marraiges You cant so easily throw Your spouses out, therefore it is understood that You have to be mature and understanding, which goes without saying. Shri Prafullaji please try to do something which will benefit astrologers over here,ie, by way of commercial income etc. Free service is already given to the natives, You have to take care of the astrologers. If anything otherwise about astrologers is mentioned , then the astrologers who are unethical have to be addressed and kicked out. You have forced me to mention that there is always a desire to earn money too, apart from serving people, then Sir please try to now put your kind hand over the good astrologers back, at least on me , if You consider me good, so that I may have grace from my Alma Mater. regards, Bhaskar. -- In , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > So prima facie factor is repairability of destiny !! How to determine this? > > If destiny is repairable (as you stated) - things are manageable, even if chart is not matched. Vice versa is also true, as per you. > > So, firstly - we must read repairability of destiny and then opt for compatibility test (if required!!). > > Sir, I still repeat - marital compatibility tests are practised more by commercial astrologers from revenue perspective. Whether, it guarantees successful marriage or not is something, where I requested an answer..not Ifs and Buts. I have seen atleast 50 sample charts, where astrologers claimed that they have things not matching to requisite levels ..but they have reasonably successful marriage. Success of marriage is much more than compatibility tests. People need to understand each other and adjust to each other & circumstances. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity of life around you. > > To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty > to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, to forget. > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish > > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 15:35:39 -0000 > > > > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > > > > Shri Prafullaji, > > > > I just entered few minutes back and wanted your mail to be replied > > last, because I have > > to think before replying to You. I mean really think, otherwise You > > will entangle me with > > my own statements. > > > > Your questions and my answers. > > > > (a) Is compatibility test a remedial measure !! ( b) Please check the > > statistics of the married couple - who have compatibility test done > > and married > > life is not that great. © So, my additional question - has it > > worked? > > > > Ans- a) Compatibility test is definitely a remedial measure just like > > we carry an umbrella before leaving home, > > and see that its raining, or may rain. > > > > b) Life is not great because they both must have not got a repairable > > destiny > > to make their lives happy after marriage, so as many compatibility > > tests they do, > > its not going to matter. > > > > c) It must have worked where we find that after compatibility tests > > done > > between few horoscopes the final match when got married are living > > happily . > > Thats what we can say when we see them living happily.We have > > no reason to think otherwise. > > . > > ---- > > ---- > > ----------- > > > > BTW, more than 70% of marriages are failures - in terms of personal > > satisfactions (emotional, mental, physical, progeny issues etc). Do > > you feel > > that, those people have missed compatibility tests? > > Ans- A few of them must have missed compatibilty tests to > > repair their marriages. And for others it may not have been > > repairable > > so they never reached astrologers as such. > > > > > > ---- > > ---- > > --------- > > > > > > (a) if the native is destined to have a successful > > marriage- will he still require compatibility test (any technique). > > (b) And can it fail -if he happens to marry someone, with whom his > > chart compatibility fails. > > > > Ans- a) If he is destined to have a succesful marriage , he may > > still > > require a compatibility test so that if he finds another someone who > > is also > > destined to have a succesful marriage then their union can roar > > happily all the way. > > > > b) It will not fail if he marries someone with whom his > > compatibility chart fails, > > but the happiness destined for him may be reduced by his own undoing > > That would be a new or naveen karma for him. > > > > ---- > > ---- > > --------- > > > > I did not match compatibility; and on one ocassion - this was done by > > an > > astrologer friend (comptent one) - in recent years. It was not that > > great - but > > marriage has been reasonably successful on most parameters. What does > > it mean ?? > > Ans- It means that You are among the lucky lot. So enjoy my dear. why > > spend time in making me answer Your hard questions ? > > ---- > > ---- > > ----------- > > > > My comments- > > Destiny has a great role to play. But so Has Karma. Destiny may have > > given me a > > good business oppurtunity to shine in the Film world. I may not have > > taken the oppurtunity. > > I may have opted to some other profession. Whatever we cannot > > explain even after > > appropriate astrological remedial measures taken , can be put in > > Destiny or Fate, > > it is as simple as that. > > If by using astrology a person can change the total course of life, > > then astrologers would not > > be sitting here and giving free consultations. They would have so > > much public at their > > doors that every evening I would have had 2-3 men to take all cash > > received to deposit in Bank locker. > > > > Astrology can only be seen as a science to indicate, to forewarn, and > > of course also make > > changes wherever allowed, at the same time get ready for the incoming > > danger or bad > > influences to reduce them by appropriate remedial measures. > > For total changing of ones destiny You got to be Bhakta Prahlad or > > Prince Dhruva. > > Common people can only reduce the bad effects or get ready for it, > > but not totally negate it. > > If fmeasures are there to reduce, then why not ? But before that dont > > we need an astrologer to > > tell us ki Bhai yeh ho sakta hai, aapko tayaar rahna padega . > > > > Comments on marriages - > > If after watching a persons horoscope You come to conclusion that yeh > > aadmi ki > > marriage mein divorce nahin hoga but marriage mein happiness bhi > > nahin hogi. > > What will You do ? Will You advise him not to get married ? If he is > > my close relative > > then I will get married him to a girl whose horoscope shows success > > in her marriage. > > That way they both will get combined effects of each other so > > ultimate marriage may > > be okay, neither happy nor tragedy. You will now say that why are > > You spoiling that > > girls life by putting him to this man ? Then maybe I will reply You, > > dekho is admi ke > > paas paise bahut hai, joh ladki ki kundli mein nahin hai, aur is > > ladki ki kundli > > mein shaadi ka sukh hai joh is ladke ki kundli mein nahin hai., isi > > liye maine > > dono ko woh de diya joh unko jaroorat thi. > > > > It is like mixing up of fates in a joint family. Even if a person has > > Sadesathi at times > > he will not feel bad effects if he is living in joint family, Now the > > question is that the > > astrologer should be smart enough in mixing. > > > > This is where all the key of succesfull and succesful marriages as > > regards to > > astrologers, lies. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > wrote: > >> > >> In my observations: > >> > >> Another issue - most astrologers in india live on compatibility > > test and muhurta. It amounts to 70% + income of an astrologer (if we > > list out 1000 astrologers randomly); hence this issue was never > > commented to be not working !!! This is more of commercial reasons > > than jyotish reasons for its pursuance by jyotishis. > >> > >> I did not match compatibility; and on one ocassion - this was done > > by an astrologer friend (comptent one) - in recent years. It was not > > that great - but marriage has been reasonably successful on most > > parameters. What does it mean ?? > >> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > >> > >> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To > > never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity > > of life around you. > >> > >> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty > >> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate > > what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to > > watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, > > to forget. > >> > >> > >>> > >>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > >>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:25:27 -0000 > >>> > >>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > >>> > >>> > >>> Dear Prafullaji, > >>> > >>> A small example why marriage compatibility tests fail ? > >>> It also requires proper competency on our part. > >>> If a girls horoscope comes to me for marriage. > >>> I will take it to a astrologer who will first > >>> comment, > >>> "are bhai Yeh toh Aries Lagna hai, aur Mars baitha hai > >>> lagna mein, yeh ladki toh bilkul nahi chalegi aapko. Your life > > will > >>> become hell, she will try to control You all Your life. Aap doosri > >>> kundli lao koi doosari ladki ki.This is what most astrologers > >>> will do. Next week I find that this girl has been married to a > >>> guy next door and this girl was Aishwarya Rai.How come ? > >>> Had he checked the sublord of the ascendant he would have found > >>> that the sublord of the ascendant is Venus, then the whole picture > >>> changes. Same Lagna, same planet placement, but sublord > >>> Venus would make the whole story different. Now this > >>> girl though commanding would also possess Venusian qualities > >>> which would give some pacification and flexibility > >>> to her commanding nature, along with feminine traits , > >>> which point would have been missed by the astrologer in question. > >>> Had the sublord been Sun then the astrolgers observations would > > have > >>> been too small, the girl would have been totally authoratarian. > >>> > >>> Same goes with 7th cusp etc. etc. > >>> Whenever we check the item in question say, children, property, > >>> Gains, then we treat the Cusp as Lagna and the sublord as the > >>> main pivot for giving results. Just like Moon is treated as > >>> main for normal Lagna and the Nakshatra lord becomes > >>> significator for the Dasha operating in ones life, same > >>> way check the diffrent cusps for giving the exact results > >>> of the query in question. > >>> > >>> Nowadays many astrolgers who are open to such researches without > > any > >>> bias have proved the efficiency of such sytems in the cause > >>> of deciding good or bad, and the whole impact in a nutshell is > >>> different than what looks apparently. > >>> > >>> But the arguments can also be put on the other side of the wall ? > > How > >>> can one prove that the happy marriages are working because of > > destiny > >>> and not because they have done compatibility tests ? > >>> > >>> Some thoughts to ponder upon ? > >>> > >>> Aise issues aap khade kar diya karo. Mujhe anand aata hai discuss > >>> karne mein, ek limit tak parantu. > >>> > >>> regards, > >>> Bhaskar. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Dear Bhaskar ji, > >>>> > >>>> I am not arguing..You have read my question wrong. I made a very > >>> simple statement. and it has nothing to do with relevance of > >>> astrology. We all know that, jyotish works..that is why we are > > here > >>> on the forum. > >>>> > >>>> I rephrase it. Is compatibility test a remedial measure !! Please > >>> check the statistics of the married couple - who have > > compatibility > >>> test done and married life is not that great. So, my additional > >>> question - has it worked? > >>>> > >>>> BTW, more than 70% of marriages are failures - in terms of > > personal > >>> satisfactions (emotional, mental, physical, progeny issues etc). > > Do > >>> you feel that, those people have missed compatibility tests? > >>>> > >>>> Yes, I may tend to agree that - most failed marriages have > >>> compatibility issues. But vice versa is yet to be proven!!! > >>>> > >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>> > >>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To > >>> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar > > disparity > >>> of life around you. > >>>> > >>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty > >>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate > >>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to > >>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, > > never, > >>> to forget. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > >>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:47:24 -0000 > >>>>> > >>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > >>>>> > >>>>> I like Your English and enjoy reading Your posts. > >>>>> You also like to argue, and I like that. > >>>>> The answer to Your argument contains in Your approach to the > >>> issue. > >>>>> > >>>>> a) Those who are happily married after having compatibility > > tests > >>>>> done, would You call it as destiny, or due to astrologers > >>> capability > >>>>> of doing a good job ? > >>>>> > >>>>> b) Those who are unhappily married after having compatibility > >>> tests > >>>>> done,would You call it as destiny,or due to astrologers > >>> incapability > >>>>> to do a good job ? > >>>>> > >>>>> If You think that an astrologer has no job in the above in > >>>>> either harming (Which You have accepted in remedies),or > >>>>> in making good the above cases, then astrology is not the right > >>>>> subject for us to persue. > >>>>> > >>>>> Now, > >>>>> a)In most of the cases where the destiny is irreperable and the > >>>>> native has to suffer, he may not have a janma kundli, or will > > not > >>>>> come out of the cupboard at the time of marriage, or even > >>>>> if it come out may not be shown to a good astrologer, or even if > >>>>> shown to a good astrologer, he may not be in a proper mood and > >>> make > >>>>> mistakes in seeing the Kundli etc.. > >>>>> > >>>>> b) Where the destiny is repairable,and mistake is made by > >>>>> going to a wrong astrologer ,You may call it destiny, I > >>>>> would call it astrologers mistake , but at the same time > >>>>> your destiny may rectify that marriage by a divorce to > >>>>> the first marriage and a happy one to the second. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> See if I know my liver is bad or weak as my Kundli if my Jup > >>>>> is afflicted , then whose mistake if I am drinking one quarter > >>>>> whisky daily ? > >>>>> > >>>>> See if I know my time is good for making money and if I sit at > >>> home > >>>>> and just enjoy resting on the bed watching TV, for that dasha > > and > >>>>> waste time, then whose fault is it ? I should be making hay > > while > >>>>> Sun shines which I am not. > >>>>> > >>>>> But in both cases (Whisky and watching TV)who is the person to > >>> give > >>>>> me knowledge that my liver is bad or time is good ? > >>>>> Undoubtedly the astrologer . Isnt it ? > >>>>> Therefore and hence the astrolgers seriousness of watching a > > chart > >>>>> and predicting properly, does have a say very much, in > > deliverance > >>>>> of actions on part of the native. > >>>>> > >>>>> regards, > >>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> , Prafulla Gang > > <jyotish@> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> As a post event issue, it may be a factor to define as to why > > did > >>>>> this happen? But has anyone been able to avoid the disaster or > >>> could > >>>>> bring domestic / marital happiness - by having marriage through > >>>>> compatibility tests (if one is not destined !!!). I am eagerly > >>>>> listening. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>>>> > >>>>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. > > To > >>>>> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar > >>> disparity > >>>>> of life around you. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty > >>>>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or > > complicate > >>>>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to > >>>>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, > >>> never, > >>>>> to forget. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > >>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:50:21 -0000 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Chart compatibility is a serious issue which many advisors > >>>>>>> neither take seriously nor take pains nor want to understand > > the > >>>>>>> gravity of. Many families have been wrecked and those who have > >>> not > >>>>>>> divorced are living a hell life, because their charts have not > >>>>> been > >>>>>>> checked properly before marriage. Now that is another way to > >>> save > >>>>>>> face that, they were destined to live like that only,so when > > can > >>>>> be > >>>>>>> do. This explanation does not hold true in all cases. Just > > Guna, > >>>>>>> Nadi dosha etc. or points checking is not going to help in > >>>>> solitary, > >>>>>>> it hs to be supplemented- we have also to check whether the > > boy > >>>>> (If > >>>>>>> Girl wants to marry) is having a good Dasha coming in life > > after > >>>>>>> marriage, finance sectors, whether he is capable of sustaining > >>> the > >>>>>>> daily expenditures, and also health factors apart from other > >>>>> ones , > >>>>>>> in a boys horoscope.,before giving our verdict. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> , "bhaskar_jyotish" > >>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> VERY TRUE. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> regards, > >>>>>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> , Prafulla Gang > >>> <jyotish@> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Domestic life has increasingly become challenge for > >>> professional > >>>>>>>> stress and so on, for current generations. The chart > >>>>> compatibility > >>>>>>>> issue, I never explored - even for myself. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Lagna lord in 7th,even in enemy sign - does not harm it; for > >>>>>>>> marital issues - watch for 7th house, 8th house, 2nd house, > > 7th > >>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>> venus, UL, navamsha lagna, 7th in D9, 2nd from UL; venus for > >>> man > >>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> mars for female nativity. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked > >>>>> league > >>>>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, > > in > >>>>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > >>>>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:36:00 -0000 > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Good one. Even tuning of one wife or ones wife is a great > >>>>> thing, > >>>>>>>>>> forget wives. > >>>>>>>>>> Great are those people who have a loving wife,who is > > waiting > >>>>>>>>>> sweetly at the door, at the end of the day waiting for her > >>> man, > >>>>>>>>>> with a sweet smile on the face, and a sweet word, even if > > the > >>>>>>>>>> man brings home only Rs. 50- > >>>>>>>>>> A person whose wife always has good words and praise for > > her > >>>>>>>>>> husband in his front or behind his back, can be considered > > a > >>>>>>> real > >>>>>>>>>> succesful man,I could say in this world, though he may not > >>> have > >>>>>>>>>> enough in the wordly sense. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Ya.now to reply to You, wife can agree...wives cannot. > >>>>>>>>>> Bhai abhi tak try nahi kiya hai, aapke sentence ke latter > >>>>>>>>>> part ko,. Mauka nahi mila. Kuch experience hai to bataiye. > >>>>>>>>>> Seekhenge aap se. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> regards, > >>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> , Prafulla Gang > >>>>>>> <jyotish@> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have wives, be > > happy > >>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>>>> wife. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked > >>>>>>> league > >>>>>>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, > >>> in > >>>>>>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > >>>>>>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000 > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> YEAH. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Fine tuning is required. > >>>>>>>>>>>> I know to do for Charts bit wives .......? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> , "jaibabedi2004" > >>>>>>>>>>>> <jaibabedi@> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> --- In > > , "bhaskar_jyotish" > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You will find > >>>>>>>> difference > >>>>>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your own house. > >>>>>>> Computer > >>>>>>>>>>>>> will > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> show different time, Your mobile will show different > >>> time, > >>>>>>>> Your > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wall clock will show different time, your wrist watch > >>> will > >>>>>>>> show > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> different time. So how can You expect that for every > >>> birth > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> time > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> noted would be perfect ?" > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In most cases where precesion or accuracy is required > >>> while > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth time is > > going > >>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>> create > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hurdles for delieantion of results and predictions > > given > >>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>> client > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> may not match, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> resulting in bad name to astrologer and the science > >>> itself. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore it is always better to verify the birth time > >>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>> confirm > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress whichever Bhava > >>>>>>>> question > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and answer we are looking for. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> regards, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bombay > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cell-9323522663 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Landline- 022-24330886 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Private email - rajiventerprises@ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Consultations from this Astrologer are not Charged > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on Forum, but by Private Mail, Telephone, or any > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> other way, would be charged. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> __________ > >>>>>> FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your > >>>>> friends and family! > >>>>>> Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>>> __________ > >>>> GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool > >>> features! > >>>> Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more! > >>>> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Dear Bhaskar ji Lots of ifs and buts... where is the clear answer of its working. These are pure commercial issues..ask any downtown good astrologer (good one)..and u will know if compatibility test ensures successful marriage or it is their 70% of earning module.. let us stop arguing, where we are two different poles. regards / Prafulla Gang To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity of life around you. To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, to forget. > > bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in > Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:02:22 -0000 > > Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? > > Dear Prafullji, > > > Mr Prafullaji > So prima facie factor is repairability of destiny !! How to determine > this? > Ans-Bhaskar. > Astrologically it is possible to ascertain whether a problem is > repairable or not. I will not give details about it. because already > I have given enough,theres no end to arguing. If it was not > repairable then how could Shri Parashar Maharaj give remedies in > Sanskrit slokas of his great texts, which wvene a person knowing > normal hindi can understand, no need to get scholarship in Sanskrit. > This Forum itself would not exist (Jyotish Remedies ) if a problem > was not repairable. > > > Mr.Prafullaji > So, firstly - we must read repairability of destiny and then opt for > compatibility test (if required!!). > Ans-Bhaskar. > If any astrologer (Good one) reads a chart it automatically means he > has read in totality, and if You as a native have gone to show him > your chart then naturally You will also go to him with a girls chart > to ask him, so no question of first , second or third. If You take > Your chart it is understood that when You receive a girls then that > also would be taken to the astrologer. You would not be foolish > that You would know about yourself but not want to know about the > girl. > > Prafullaji- > marital compatibility tests are practised more by commercial > astrologers from revenue perspective. Whether, it guarantees > successful marriage or not is something, where I requested an > answer..not Ifs and Buts. I have seen atleast 50 sample charts, where > astrologers claimed that they have things not matching to requisite > levels ..but they have reasonably successful marriage. Success of > marriage is much more than compatibility tests. People need to > understand each other and adjust to each other & circumstances. > > Ans- > Already on many occasions in my mails I have mentioned that it > may not guaranntee succesfulmarriage if the astrologer does not > know his job. After the Khicdi has been spoilt either You eat > it or throw it, > In marraiges You cant so easily throw Your spouses out, therefore it > is understood that You have to be mature and understanding, which > goes without saying. > > Shri Prafullaji please try to do something which will benefit > astrologers over here,ie, by way of commercial income etc. > Free service is already given to the natives, You have to take > care of the astrologers. If anything otherwise about astrologers > is mentioned , then the astrologers who are unethical have to be > addressed and kicked out. You have forced me to mention that > there is always a desire to earn money too, apart from serving > people, then Sir please try to now put your kind hand over the good > astrologers back, at least on me , if You consider me good, so > that I may have grace from my Alma Mater. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > > -- In , Prafulla Gang <jyotish > wrote: >> >> Dear Bhaskar ji >> >> So prima facie factor is repairability of destiny !! How to > determine this? >> >> If destiny is repairable (as you stated) - things are manageable, > even if chart is not matched. Vice versa is also true, as per you. >> >> So, firstly - we must read repairability of destiny and then opt > for compatibility test (if required!!). >> >> Sir, I still repeat - marital compatibility tests are practised > more by commercial astrologers from revenue perspective. Whether, it > guarantees successful marriage or not is something, where I requested > an answer..not Ifs and Buts. I have seen atleast 50 sample charts, > where astrologers claimed that they have things not matching to > requisite levels ..but they have reasonably successful marriage. > Success of marriage is much more than compatibility tests. People > need to understand each other and adjust to each other & > circumstances. >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To > never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity > of life around you. >> >> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty >> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate > what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to > watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, > to forget. >> >> >>> >>> bhaskar_jyotish >>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 15:35:39 -0000 >>> >>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>> >>> Shri Prafullaji, >>> >>> I just entered few minutes back and wanted your mail to be replied >>> last, because I have >>> to think before replying to You. I mean really think, otherwise > You >>> will entangle me with >>> my own statements. >>> >>> Your questions and my answers. >>> >>> (a) Is compatibility test a remedial measure !! ( b) Please check > the >>> statistics of the married couple - who have compatibility test > done >>> and married >>> life is not that great. © So, my additional question - has it >>> worked? >>> >>> Ans- a) Compatibility test is definitely a remedial measure just > like >>> we carry an umbrella before leaving home, >>> and see that its raining, or may rain. >>> >>> b) Life is not great because they both must have not got a > repairable >>> destiny >>> to make their lives happy after marriage, so as many compatibility >>> tests they do, >>> its not going to matter. >>> >>> c) It must have worked where we find that after compatibility > tests >>> done >>> between few horoscopes the final match when got married are living >>> happily . >>> Thats what we can say when we see them living happily.We have >>> no reason to think otherwise. >>> . >>> > ---- >>> > ---- >>> ----------- >>> >>> BTW, more than 70% of marriages are failures - in terms of > personal >>> satisfactions (emotional, mental, physical, progeny issues etc). > Do >>> you feel >>> that, those people have missed compatibility tests? >>> Ans- A few of them must have missed compatibilty tests to >>> repair their marriages. And for others it may not have been >>> repairable >>> so they never reached astrologers as such. >>> >>> >>> > ---- >>> > ---- >>> --------- >>> >>> >>> (a) if the native is destined to have a successful >>> marriage- will he still require compatibility test (any > technique). >>> (b) And can it fail -if he happens to marry someone, with whom his >>> chart compatibility fails. >>> >>> Ans- a) If he is destined to have a succesful marriage , he may >>> still >>> require a compatibility test so that if he finds another someone > who >>> is also >>> destined to have a succesful marriage then their union can roar >>> happily all the way. >>> >>> b) It will not fail if he marries someone with whom his >>> compatibility chart fails, >>> but the happiness destined for him may be reduced by his own > undoing >>> That would be a new or naveen karma for him. >>> >>> > ---- >>> > ---- >>> --------- >>> >>> I did not match compatibility; and on one ocassion - this was > done by >>> an >>> astrologer friend (comptent one) - in recent years. It was not > that >>> great - but >>> marriage has been reasonably successful on most parameters. What > does >>> it mean ?? >>> Ans- It means that You are among the lucky lot. So enjoy my dear. > why >>> spend time in making me answer Your hard questions ? >>> > ---- >>> > ---- >>> ----------- >>> >>> My comments- >>> Destiny has a great role to play. But so Has Karma. Destiny may > have >>> given me a >>> good business oppurtunity to shine in the Film world. I may not > have >>> taken the oppurtunity. >>> I may have opted to some other profession. Whatever we cannot >>> explain even after >>> appropriate astrological remedial measures taken , can be put in >>> Destiny or Fate, >>> it is as simple as that. >>> If by using astrology a person can change the total course of > life, >>> then astrologers would not >>> be sitting here and giving free consultations. They would have so >>> much public at their >>> doors that every evening I would have had 2-3 men to take all cash >>> received to deposit in Bank locker. >>> >>> Astrology can only be seen as a science to indicate, to forewarn, > and >>> of course also make >>> changes wherever allowed, at the same time get ready for the > incoming >>> danger or bad >>> influences to reduce them by appropriate remedial measures. >>> For total changing of ones destiny You got to be Bhakta Prahlad or >>> Prince Dhruva. >>> Common people can only reduce the bad effects or get ready for it, >>> but not totally negate it. >>> If fmeasures are there to reduce, then why not ? But before that > dont >>> we need an astrologer to >>> tell us ki Bhai yeh ho sakta hai, aapko tayaar rahna padega . >>> >>> Comments on marriages - >>> If after watching a persons horoscope You come to conclusion that > yeh >>> aadmi ki >>> marriage mein divorce nahin hoga but marriage mein happiness bhi >>> nahin hogi. >>> What will You do ? Will You advise him not to get married ? If he > is >>> my close relative >>> then I will get married him to a girl whose horoscope shows > success >>> in her marriage. >>> That way they both will get combined effects of each other so >>> ultimate marriage may >>> be okay, neither happy nor tragedy. You will now say that why > are >>> You spoiling that >>> girls life by putting him to this man ? Then maybe I will reply > You, >>> dekho is admi ke >>> paas paise bahut hai, joh ladki ki kundli mein nahin hai, aur is >>> ladki ki kundli >>> mein shaadi ka sukh hai joh is ladke ki kundli mein nahin hai., > isi >>> liye maine >>> dono ko woh de diya joh unko jaroorat thi. >>> >>> It is like mixing up of fates in a joint family. Even if a person > has >>> Sadesathi at times >>> he will not feel bad effects if he is living in joint family, Now > the >>> question is that the >>> astrologer should be smart enough in mixing. >>> >>> This is where all the key of succesfull and succesful marriages as >>> regards to >>> astrologers, lies. >>> >>> regards, >>> Bhaskar. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> In my observations: >>>> >>>> Another issue - most astrologers in india live on compatibility >>> test and muhurta. It amounts to 70% + income of an astrologer (if > we >>> list out 1000 astrologers randomly); hence this issue was never >>> commented to be not working !!! This is more of commercial reasons >>> than jyotish reasons for its pursuance by jyotishis. >>>> >>>> I did not match compatibility; and on one ocassion - this was > done >>> by an astrologer friend (comptent one) - in recent years. It was > not >>> that great - but marriage has been reasonably successful on most >>> parameters. What does it mean ?? >>>> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>> >>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To >>> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar > disparity >>> of life around you. >>>> >>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty >>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate >>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to >>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, > never, >>> to forget. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:25:27 -0000 >>>>> >>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear Prafullaji, >>>>> >>>>> A small example why marriage compatibility tests fail ? >>>>> It also requires proper competency on our part. >>>>> If a girls horoscope comes to me for marriage. >>>>> I will take it to a astrologer who will first >>>>> comment, >>>>> "are bhai Yeh toh Aries Lagna hai, aur Mars baitha hai >>>>> lagna mein, yeh ladki toh bilkul nahi chalegi aapko. Your life >>> will >>>>> become hell, she will try to control You all Your life. Aap > doosri >>>>> kundli lao koi doosari ladki ki.This is what most astrologers >>>>> will do. Next week I find that this girl has been married to a >>>>> guy next door and this girl was Aishwarya Rai.How come ? >>>>> Had he checked the sublord of the ascendant he would have found >>>>> that the sublord of the ascendant is Venus, then the whole > picture >>>>> changes. Same Lagna, same planet placement, but sublord >>>>> Venus would make the whole story different. Now this >>>>> girl though commanding would also possess Venusian qualities >>>>> which would give some pacification and flexibility >>>>> to her commanding nature, along with feminine traits , >>>>> which point would have been missed by the astrologer in > question. >>>>> Had the sublord been Sun then the astrolgers observations would >>> have >>>>> been too small, the girl would have been totally authoratarian. >>>>> >>>>> Same goes with 7th cusp etc. etc. >>>>> Whenever we check the item in question say, children, property, >>>>> Gains, then we treat the Cusp as Lagna and the sublord as the >>>>> main pivot for giving results. Just like Moon is treated as >>>>> main for normal Lagna and the Nakshatra lord becomes >>>>> significator for the Dasha operating in ones life, same >>>>> way check the diffrent cusps for giving the exact results >>>>> of the query in question. >>>>> >>>>> Nowadays many astrolgers who are open to such researches without >>> any >>>>> bias have proved the efficiency of such sytems in the cause >>>>> of deciding good or bad, and the whole impact in a nutshell is >>>>> different than what looks apparently. >>>>> >>>>> But the arguments can also be put on the other side of the > wall ? >>> How >>>>> can one prove that the happy marriages are working because of >>> destiny >>>>> and not because they have done compatibility tests ? >>>>> >>>>> Some thoughts to ponder upon ? >>>>> >>>>> Aise issues aap khade kar diya karo. Mujhe anand aata hai > discuss >>>>> karne mein, ek limit tak parantu. >>>>> >>>>> regards, >>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> , Prafulla Gang > <jyotish@> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Bhaskar ji, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am not arguing..You have read my question wrong. I made a > very >>>>> simple statement. and it has nothing to do with relevance of >>>>> astrology. We all know that, jyotish works..that is why we are >>> here >>>>> on the forum. >>>>>> >>>>>> I rephrase it. Is compatibility test a remedial measure !! > Please >>>>> check the statistics of the married couple - who have >>> compatibility >>>>> test done and married life is not that great. So, my additional >>>>> question - has it worked? >>>>>> >>>>>> BTW, more than 70% of marriages are failures - in terms of >>> personal >>>>> satisfactions (emotional, mental, physical, progeny issues etc). >>> Do >>>>> you feel that, those people have missed compatibility tests? >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, I may tend to agree that - most failed marriages have >>>>> compatibility issues. But vice versa is yet to be proven!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>>>> >>>>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. > To >>>>> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar >>> disparity >>>>> of life around you. >>>>>> >>>>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty >>>>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or > complicate >>>>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to >>>>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, >>> never, >>>>> to forget. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:47:24 -0000 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I like Your English and enjoy reading Your posts. >>>>>>> You also like to argue, and I like that. >>>>>>> The answer to Your argument contains in Your approach to the >>>>> issue. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> a) Those who are happily married after having compatibility >>> tests >>>>>>> done, would You call it as destiny, or due to astrologers >>>>> capability >>>>>>> of doing a good job ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> b) Those who are unhappily married after having compatibility >>>>> tests >>>>>>> done,would You call it as destiny,or due to astrologers >>>>> incapability >>>>>>> to do a good job ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If You think that an astrologer has no job in the above in >>>>>>> either harming (Which You have accepted in remedies),or >>>>>>> in making good the above cases, then astrology is not the > right >>>>>>> subject for us to persue. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now, >>>>>>> a)In most of the cases where the destiny is irreperable and > the >>>>>>> native has to suffer, he may not have a janma kundli, or will >>> not >>>>>>> come out of the cupboard at the time of marriage, or even >>>>>>> if it come out may not be shown to a good astrologer, or even > if >>>>>>> shown to a good astrologer, he may not be in a proper mood and >>>>> make >>>>>>> mistakes in seeing the Kundli etc.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> b) Where the destiny is repairable,and mistake is made by >>>>>>> going to a wrong astrologer ,You may call it destiny, I >>>>>>> would call it astrologers mistake , but at the same time >>>>>>> your destiny may rectify that marriage by a divorce to >>>>>>> the first marriage and a happy one to the second. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> See if I know my liver is bad or weak as my Kundli if my Jup >>>>>>> is afflicted , then whose mistake if I am drinking one quarter >>>>>>> whisky daily ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> See if I know my time is good for making money and if I sit at >>>>> home >>>>>>> and just enjoy resting on the bed watching TV, for that dasha >>> and >>>>>>> waste time, then whose fault is it ? I should be making hay >>> while >>>>>>> Sun shines which I am not. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But in both cases (Whisky and watching TV)who is the person to >>>>> give >>>>>>> me knowledge that my liver is bad or time is good ? >>>>>>> Undoubtedly the astrologer . Isnt it ? >>>>>>> Therefore and hence the astrolgers seriousness of watching a >>> chart >>>>>>> and predicting properly, does have a say very much, in >>> deliverance >>>>>>> of actions on part of the native. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> , Prafulla Gang >>> <jyotish@> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As a post event issue, it may be a factor to define as to why >>> did >>>>>>> this happen? But has anyone been able to avoid the disaster or >>>>> could >>>>>>> bring domestic / marital happiness - by having marriage > through >>>>>>> compatibility tests (if one is not destined !!!). I am eagerly >>>>>>> listening. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To love. To be loved. To never forget your own > insignificance. >>> To >>>>>>> never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar >>>>> disparity >>>>>>> of life around you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty >>>>>>>> to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or >>> complicate >>>>>>> what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, > to >>>>>>> watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, >>>>> never, >>>>>>> to forget. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:50:21 -0000 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Chart compatibility is a serious issue which many advisors >>>>>>>>> neither take seriously nor take pains nor want to understand >>> the >>>>>>>>> gravity of. Many families have been wrecked and those who > have >>>>> not >>>>>>>>> divorced are living a hell life, because their charts have > not >>>>>>> been >>>>>>>>> checked properly before marriage. Now that is another way to >>>>> save >>>>>>>>> face that, they were destined to live like that only,so when >>> can >>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>> do. This explanation does not hold true in all cases. Just >>> Guna, >>>>>>>>> Nadi dosha etc. or points checking is not going to help in >>>>>>> solitary, >>>>>>>>> it hs to be supplemented- we have also to check whether the >>> boy >>>>>>> (If >>>>>>>>> Girl wants to marry) is having a good Dasha coming in life >>> after >>>>>>>>> marriage, finance sectors, whether he is capable of > sustaining >>>>> the >>>>>>>>> daily expenditures, and also health factors apart from other >>>>>>> ones , >>>>>>>>> in a boys horoscope.,before giving our verdict. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> , "bhaskar_jyotish" >>>>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> VERY TRUE. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> , Prafulla Gang >>>>> <jyotish@> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Domestic life has increasingly become challenge for >>>>> professional >>>>>>>>>> stress and so on, for current generations. The chart >>>>>>> compatibility >>>>>>>>>> issue, I never explored - even for myself. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Lagna lord in 7th,even in enemy sign - does not harm it; > for >>>>>>>>>> marital issues - watch for 7th house, 8th house, 2nd house, >>> 7th >>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>> venus, UL, navamsha lagna, 7th in D9, 2nd from UL; venus > for >>>>> man >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> mars for female nativity. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a wicked >>>>>>> league >>>>>>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young woman, >>> in >>>>>>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>>>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:36:00 -0000 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Good one. Even tuning of one wife or ones wife is a great >>>>>>> thing, >>>>>>>>>>>> forget wives. >>>>>>>>>>>> Great are those people who have a loving wife,who is >>> waiting >>>>>>>>>>>> sweetly at the door, at the end of the day waiting for > her >>>>> man, >>>>>>>>>>>> with a sweet smile on the face, and a sweet word, even if >>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> man brings home only Rs. 50- >>>>>>>>>>>> A person whose wife always has good words and praise for >>> her >>>>>>>>>>>> husband in his front or behind his back, can be > considered >>> a >>>>>>>>> real >>>>>>>>>>>> succesful man,I could say in this world, though he may > not >>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>> enough in the wordly sense. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ya.now to reply to You, wife can agree...wives cannot. >>>>>>>>>>>> Bhai abhi tak try nahi kiya hai, aapke sentence ke latter >>>>>>>>>>>> part ko,. Mauka nahi mila. Kuch experience hai to > bataiye. >>>>>>>>>>>> Seekhenge aap se. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> , Prafulla Gang >>>>>>>>> <jyotish@> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, wife can agree..not wives. So why have wives, be >>> happy >>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>> wife. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Witch, n. (1) An ugly and repulsive old woman, in a > wicked >>>>>>>>> league >>>>>>>>>>>> with the devil. (2) A beautiful and attractive young > woman, >>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>> wickedness a league beyond the devil. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:13:11 -0000 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Re: BIRTH TIME DIFFERENCE ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> YEAH. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fine tuning is required. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know to do for Charts bit wives .......? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- In > , "jaibabedi2004" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jaibabedi@> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WATCHES AND WIVES NEVER AGREE. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- In >>> , "bhaskar_jyotish" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yesterday I had met one Guru . In his words. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Go to any Titan Shop selling watches, You will find >>>>>>>>>> difference >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> timings in most of the watches. Check Your own house. >>>>>>>>> Computer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show different time, Your mobile will show different >>>>> time, >>>>>>>>>> Your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wall clock will show different time, your wrist watch >>>>> will >>>>>>>>>> show >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different time. So how can You expect that for every >>>>> birth >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noted would be perfect ?" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In most cases where precesion or accuracy is required >>>>> while >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addressing sensitive issues, a wrong birth time is >>> going >>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> create >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hurdles for delieantion of results and predictions >>> given >>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> client >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> may not match, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resulting in bad name to astrologer and the science >>>>> itself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore it is always better to verify the birth > time >>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> confirm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ascendant degrees or cuspal degress whichever > Bhava >>>>>>>>>> question >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and answer we are looking for. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bombay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cell-9323522663 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Landline- 022-24330886 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Private email - rajiventerprises@ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Consultations from this Astrologer are not Charged >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on Forum, but by Private Mail, Telephone, or any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other way, would be charged. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> __________ >>>>>>>> FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your >>>>>>> friends and family! >>>>>>>> Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> __________ >>>>>> GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool >>>>> features! >>>>>> Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more! >>>>>> >>>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 dear readers, I would like to share my observation on marriage compatibility. Married life will be good if the boy and the girl come from good parentage because children observe how their parents have led their life and in addition the external environment like school, college, workplace, media have an influence on them. some times the parents lead a disciplined life, but their children may drift away from discipline, astrologically due to bad planetary position or the nakshtra's also play a role in addition to the previous karma of the parents. compatibility is very subjective, what is good for me may not be good for many. So u cannot have a rigid format to ascertain the compatibility. When astrology was evolved there were no divorce taking place at least in the Hindu, jains, buddhism or sikhs. At least in India we find this divorce taking place only in the last 30yrs with an exponential increase. sometimes it is good because if a man and a woman cannot live together harmoniously it is better they get separated but look at the pitiable condition of the children they would have produced. Finally I only wish astrologers like Bhaskarji who say that they try to find out remedial measures to make the charts more compatible and less irritable will be the correct path. with good wishes, k.gopu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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