Deities of Worship and Effects of Weak Jupie

[Guest guest]

Learned group members,

 

Sorry for ego focus. I learn much about Vedic from the study of my own

chart and of those close to me. I suppose I feel "safer" from this

standpoint right now..eventually I will focus on other charts when I

feel most comfortable

 

I recall reading the ruler of Navamsha moon is the recommended deity

for propitiation...My Navamsha moon is Libra....Venus ruled would

equate to Lakshmi? I have found my most effective mantras to Maha

Lakshmi...just wanted to verify...but, I also have Libra Lagna in

Rasi, does Lagna figure into this as well? RY Saturn in 9th with Ketu

would direct me towards Shiva...but I found best results with deities

of feminine nature...Kali kicked my behind...so, I leave her alone...

 

Also, I've read several books that say a weak Jupiter isn't as

harmful...though luck is "spoiled"...Jupie in Capricorn in 4th with

Mercury and Venus makes an unhappy Jupie as Venus and Mercury would be

inclined to overindulge in pleasurable things and communication? Which

works against Jupies more guru-like nature...But, Saturn ruling and in

9th gives a different route to spiritual asceticism...no physical

gurus...more esoteric with Ketu next to Saturn...

 

Jupie is a tough planet for me to get a handle on because of all the

cross connections with Saturn and the 9th house....

 

Any insight will be read and absorbed carefully...

 

Kindest Regards,

 

Kat

[Guest guest]

Dear kat,

 

That reference to Navamsha ruler of moon , to be treated as Diety,

was made by me on this Forum so I thought it proper to reply to You.

You may/may not find reference about this in books, I have learnt

from my Guru (Teacher). See the lucky ones are already put on

the path of the diety referred by the Navamsha Moon Lord.In my case

also I was automatically worshipping the Lord as suggested by my

horoscope without knowing this fact , and always loved praying

to this Diety.

Venus may also indicate Maha Lakshmi - Right.

 

one statement You should not have made 'Kali kicked my behind".

Do not talk like this about dieties specially about those dieties

like Rudra, Bhairav, Hanumanji, Kaali and other Forms of

the Devi which are more into Tamas Guna as per their

manifestations required, as they will not take time to get

offended and pay back in the same coin,or worser.

And anyway they are not supposed to keep us happy but its the other

way round, we have to appease them to grant their favours.

we should always respect and speak well while referring to them.

 

This Diety should be treated as B Complex tablets to be

taken regularly.

The Lagna Diety/connected gems are to be treated as daily

food .

The remedies for Maha dasha and Antar dasha lords are to

be taken as Specific tablets meant for say a sickness like

jaundice or typhoid or like a guest/relative/loved ones

stay with us which will last for a while.

 

The order of Remedies should be first Your Diety, second The

Mahadasha Lord and third the Lagna Lord.

For lagna Lord You may use Gems etc.but for MahaDAsha

Lord always recite Mantras as far as possible.

These are my personal views, other astrologers view may

be different.

 

About the rest of your points I cannot comment as not seen

your chart.

 

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

, "katcampise"

<katcampise wrote:

>

> Learned group members,

>

> Sorry for ego focus. I learn much about Vedic from the study of my

own

> chart and of those close to me. I suppose I feel "safer" from this

> standpoint right now..eventually I will focus on other charts when

I

> feel most comfortable

>

> I recall reading the ruler of Navamsha moon is the recommended

deity

> for propitiation...My Navamsha moon is Libra....Venus ruled would

> equate to Lakshmi? I have found my most effective mantras to Maha

> Lakshmi...just wanted to verify...but, I also have Libra Lagna in

> Rasi, does Lagna figure into this as well? RY Saturn in 9th with

Ketu

> would direct me towards Shiva...but I found best results with

deities

> of feminine nature...Kali kicked my behind...so, I leave her

alone...

>

> Also, I've read several books that say a weak Jupiter isn't as

> harmful...though luck is "spoiled"...Jupie in Capricorn in 4th with

> Mercury and Venus makes an unhappy Jupie as Venus and Mercury would

be

> inclined to overindulge in pleasurable things and communication?

Which

> works against Jupies more guru-like nature...But, Saturn ruling and

in

> 9th gives a different route to spiritual asceticism...no physical

> gurus...more esoteric with Ketu next to Saturn...

>

> Jupie is a tough planet for me to get a handle on because of all

the

> cross connections with Saturn and the 9th house....

>

> Any insight will be read and absorbed carefully...

>

> Kindest Regards,

>

> Kat

>

[Guest guest]

Dear katcompise,

 

Not to muddy the issue but just to add another layer of possibility,

I believe this comes from Sanjay Rath's school (Jaimini based? Not

too sure!) that the 12th from karakamsha holds the key to one's

ishtadevta. Mantrasiddhi is studied from the fifth.

 

RR

 

, "katcampise"

<katcampise wrote:

>

> Learned group members,

>

> Sorry for ego focus. I learn much about Vedic from the study of my

own

> chart and of those close to me. I suppose I feel "safer" from this

> standpoint right now..eventually I will focus on other charts when

I

> feel most comfortable

>

> I recall reading the ruler of Navamsha moon is the recommended

deity

> for propitiation...My Navamsha moon is Libra....Venus ruled would

> equate to Lakshmi? I have found my most effective mantras to Maha

> Lakshmi...just wanted to verify...but, I also have Libra Lagna in

> Rasi, does Lagna figure into this as well? RY Saturn in 9th with

Ketu

> would direct me towards Shiva...but I found best results with

deities

> of feminine nature...Kali kicked my behind...so, I leave her

alone...

>

> Also, I've read several books that say a weak Jupiter isn't as

> harmful...though luck is "spoiled"...Jupie in Capricorn in 4th with

> Mercury and Venus makes an unhappy Jupie as Venus and Mercury would

be

> inclined to overindulge in pleasurable things and communication?

Which

> works against Jupies more guru-like nature...But, Saturn ruling and

in

> 9th gives a different route to spiritual asceticism...no physical

> gurus...more esoteric with Ketu next to Saturn...

>

> Jupie is a tough planet for me to get a handle on because of all

the

> cross connections with Saturn and the 9th house....

>

> Any insight will be read and absorbed carefully...

>

> Kindest Regards,

>

> Kat

>

[Guest guest]

Bhaskar,

Thank you for your points.

Regarding Kali, She knows I love her, and She rightfully brought me to a sudden path of distancing from the material plane...I respect your thoughts on the matter...Kali still maintains a Rightful and Prominent place in my area of Worship..along with Durga, Saraswati, Lakshmi and Ganesha....I make sure Deities surround me to keep me mind-full of serving them First....Indeed, when I was reciting Kali Mantras 10 years ago, I had someone say they saw Kali in my appearance....they did not know I had been Faithfully reciting Her various forms...

On another train of thought, has anyone else had this happen? Just curious.

Birth Details

1/12/1974

1:56AM

Orange, CA

Kindest Regards,

Kat

 

Bhaskar <rajiventerprises (AT) hathway (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear kat,

 

That reference to Navamsha ruler of moon , to be treated as Diety,

was made by me on this Forum so I thought it proper to reply to You.

You may/may not find reference about this in books, I have learnt

from my Guru (Teacher). See the lucky ones are already put on

the path of the diety referred by the Navamsha Moon Lord.In my case

also I was automatically worshipping the Lord as suggested by my

horoscope without knowing this fact , and always loved praying

to this Diety.

Venus may also indicate Maha Lakshmi - Right.

 

one statement You should not have made 'Kali kicked my behind".

Do not talk like this about dieties specially about those dieties

like Rudra, Bhairav, Hanumanji, Kaali and other Forms of

the Devi which are more into Tamas Guna as per their

manifestations required, as they will not take time to get

offended and pay back in the same coin,or worser.

And anyway they are not supposed to keep us happy but its the other

way round, we have to appease them to grant their favours.

we should always respect and speak well while referring to them.

 

This Diety should be treated as B Complex tablets to be

taken regularly.

The Lagna Diety/connected gems are to be treated as daily

food .

The remedies for Maha dasha and Antar dasha lords are to

be taken as Specific tablets meant for say a sickness like

jaundice or typhoid or like a guest/relative/loved ones

stay with us which will last for a while.

 

The order of Remedies should be first Your Diety, second The

Mahadasha Lord and third the Lagna Lord.

For lagna Lord You may use Gems etc.but for MahaDAsha

Lord always recite Mantras as far as possible.

These are my personal views, other astrologers view may

be different.

 

About the rest of your points I cannot comment as not seen

your chart.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

, "katcampise"

<katcampise wrote:

>

> Learned group members,

>

> Sorry for ego focus. I learn much about Vedic from the study of my

own

> chart and of those close to me. I suppose I feel "safer" from this

> standpoint right now..eventually I will focus on other charts when

I

> feel most comfortable

>

> I recall reading the ruler of Navamsha moon is the recommended

deity

> for propitiation...My Navamsha moon is Libra....Venus ruled would

> equate to Lakshmi? I have found my most effective mantras to Maha

> Lakshmi...just wanted to verify...but, I also have Libra Lagna in

> Rasi, does Lagna figure into this as well? RY Saturn in 9th with

Ketu

> would direct me towards Shiva...but I found best results with

deities

> of feminine nature...Kali kicked my behind...so, I leave her

alone...

>

> Also, I've read several books that say a weak Jupiter isn't as

> harmful...though luck is "spoiled"...Jupie in Capricorn in 4th with

> Mercury and Venus makes an unhappy Jupie as Venus and Mercury would

be

> inclined to overindulge in pleasurable things and communication?

Which

> works against Jupies more guru-like nature...But, Saturn ruling and

in

> 9th gives a different route to spiritual asceticism...no physical

> gurus...more esoteric with Ketu next to Saturn...

>

> Jupie is a tough planet for me to get a handle on because of all

the

> cross connections with Saturn and the 9th house....

>

> Any insight will be read and absorbed carefully...

>

> Kindest Regards,

>

> Kat

>

 

 

 

 

 

Kat Smith, ME.d MS

 

 

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Dear Kat,

 

For certain mantras for female dieties,(I will not put

the name here).You come to know when You have attained the siddhi

of that particular mantra, for ex. I know of a mantra when a

person if he recites regularly , some day a black cat will come

near him and sit for some time ,this indication should make the

person realise that he has been succesful in appeasing that

diety. If You know so many female dieties and have worshipped

them then find out cat is the vehicle of which one. That should be

clue enough for You.

 

To see a form of Kaali in real life would not make the person

stand straight. Ordinary people of 0 watts Night bulb cannot

take power of 100 watts .The bulb will burst immediately.

 

Manifestation of Deities in the worshippers body I have seen

personally alongwith a crowd of 500 people and standing 100 feet

away I trembled like a leaf. That was 20 years ago when my

journey into spiritual began, because that day when a logical

mind and modern educated from one of the best Roman Catholic

schools like me, saw the worshipper hanging in the air 5 feet

above the ground , from that moment I knew that there is Power

all around, and we should not unleash it until we are ready.

The Diety I will not name was offended due to some ritual

not done in conformity with laid down principals and showed

his ire by coming in the devotee and suspended in the air

and needed 10 men to pacify him and bring to the ground.

 

Even those who are not from the Hindu Fold or religion have

experienced this. I know of a Moroccan born lady who came to

India and met me me one year back. She gets the divine experiences

at times while singing and blood starts oozing from her body.

 

 

Anyway. is it 1.56 am on 31st night and 1st morning ?

Also mention the longitiude and latitude of your birth place .

Just required to confirm. We all know where Orange is.

All my Inbox is flooded by hundreds of mail from here.

 

And are You a female ?

 

 

 

Regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

, Kat Campise <katcampise

wrote:

>

> Bhaskar,

>

> Thank you for your points.

>

> Regarding Kali, She knows I love her, and She rightfully brought

me to a sudden path of distancing from the material plane...I respect

your thoughts on the matter...Kali still maintains a Rightful and

Prominent place in my area of Worship..along with Durga, Saraswati,

Lakshmi and Ganesha....I make sure Deities surround me to keep me

mind-full of serving them First....Indeed, when I was reciting Kali

Mantras 10 years ago, I had someone say they saw Kali in my

appearance....they did not know I had been Faithfully reciting Her

various forms...

>

> On another train of thought, has anyone else had this happen?

Just curious.

>

> Birth Details

> 1/12/1974

> 1:56AM

> Orange, CA

>

> Kindest Regards,

>

> Kat

>

>

>

> Bhaskar <rajiventerprises wrote:

> Dear kat,

>

> That reference to Navamsha ruler of moon , to be treated as Diety,

> was made by me on this Forum so I thought it proper to reply to

You.

> You may/may not find reference about this in books, I have learnt

> from my Guru (Teacher). See the lucky ones are already put on

> the path of the diety referred by the Navamsha Moon Lord.In my case

> also I was automatically worshipping the Lord as suggested by my

> horoscope without knowing this fact , and always loved praying

> to this Diety.

> Venus may also indicate Maha Lakshmi - Right.

>

> one statement You should not have made 'Kali kicked my behind".

> Do not talk like this about dieties specially about those dieties

> like Rudra, Bhairav, Hanumanji, Kaali and other Forms of

> the Devi which are more into Tamas Guna as per their

> manifestations required, as they will not take time to get

> offended and pay back in the same coin,or worser.

> And anyway they are not supposed to keep us happy but its the other

> way round, we have to appease them to grant their favours.

> we should always respect and speak well while referring to them.

>

> This Diety should be treated as B Complex tablets to be

> taken regularly.

> The Lagna Diety/connected gems are to be treated as daily

> food .

> The remedies for Maha dasha and Antar dasha lords are to

> be taken as Specific tablets meant for say a sickness like

> jaundice or typhoid or like a guest/relative/loved ones

> stay with us which will last for a while.

>

> The order of Remedies should be first Your Diety, second The

> Mahadasha Lord and third the Lagna Lord.

> For lagna Lord You may use Gems etc.but for MahaDAsha

> Lord always recite Mantras as far as possible.

> These are my personal views, other astrologers view may

> be different.

>

> About the rest of your points I cannot comment as not seen

> your chart.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , "katcampise"

> <katcampise@> wrote:

> >

> > Learned group members,

> >

> > Sorry for ego focus. I learn much about Vedic from the study of

my

> own

> > chart and of those close to me. I suppose I feel "safer" from

this

> > standpoint right now..eventually I will focus on other charts

when

> I

> > feel most comfortable

> >

> > I recall reading the ruler of Navamsha moon is the recommended

> deity

> > for propitiation...My Navamsha moon is Libra....Venus ruled would

> > equate to Lakshmi? I have found my most effective mantras to Maha

> > Lakshmi...just wanted to verify...but, I also have Libra Lagna in

> > Rasi, does Lagna figure into this as well? RY Saturn in 9th with

> Ketu

> > would direct me towards Shiva...but I found best results with

> deities

> > of feminine nature...Kali kicked my behind...so, I leave her

> alone...

> >

> > Also, I've read several books that say a weak Jupiter isn't as

> > harmful...though luck is "spoiled"...Jupie in Capricorn in 4th

with

> > Mercury and Venus makes an unhappy Jupie as Venus and Mercury

would

> be

> > inclined to overindulge in pleasurable things and communication?

> Which

> > works against Jupies more guru-like nature...But, Saturn ruling

and

> in

> > 9th gives a different route to spiritual asceticism...no physical

> > gurus...more esoteric with Ketu next to Saturn...

> >

> > Jupie is a tough planet for me to get a handle on because of all

> the

> > cross connections with Saturn and the 9th house....

> >

> > Any insight will be read and absorbed carefully...

> >

> > Kindest Regards,

> >

> > Kat

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Kat Smith, ME.d MS

>

>

>

> Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail Beta.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Shri Ranjanji,

 

Yes I remember this mention in Jaimini, relating to atmakaraka

and Karakamsha Lagna with reference to ones Ishta devata,

few years back had read, for my own interest.

We are fortunate to have at least few natives interested to know

about these things, normally people come for wanting to know about

their loves,wealth and health.

 

regards,

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, "crystal pages"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Dear katcompise,

>

> Not to muddy the issue but just to add another layer of

possibility,

> I believe this comes from Sanjay Rath's school (Jaimini based? Not

> too sure!) that the 12th from karakamsha holds the key to one's

> ishtadevta. Mantrasiddhi is studied from the fifth.

>

> RR

>

> , "katcampise"

> <katcampise@> wrote:

> >

> > Learned group members,

> >

> > Sorry for ego focus. I learn much about Vedic from the study of

my

> own

> > chart and of those close to me. I suppose I feel "safer" from

this

> > standpoint right now..eventually I will focus on other charts

when

> I

> > feel most comfortable

> >

> > I recall reading the ruler of Navamsha moon is the recommended

> deity

> > for propitiation...My Navamsha moon is Libra....Venus ruled would

> > equate to Lakshmi? I have found my most effective mantras to Maha

> > Lakshmi...just wanted to verify...but, I also have Libra Lagna in

> > Rasi, does Lagna figure into this as well? RY Saturn in 9th with

> Ketu

> > would direct me towards Shiva...but I found best results with

> deities

> > of feminine nature...Kali kicked my behind...so, I leave her

> alone...

> >

> > Also, I've read several books that say a weak Jupiter isn't as

> > harmful...though luck is "spoiled"...Jupie in Capricorn in 4th

with

> > Mercury and Venus makes an unhappy Jupie as Venus and Mercury

would

> be

> > inclined to overindulge in pleasurable things and communication?

> Which

> > works against Jupies more guru-like nature...But, Saturn ruling

and

> in

> > 9th gives a different route to spiritual asceticism...no physical

> > gurus...more esoteric with Ketu next to Saturn...

> >

> > Jupie is a tough planet for me to get a handle on because of all

> the

> > cross connections with Saturn and the 9th house....

> >

> > Any insight will be read and absorbed carefully...

> >

> > Kindest Regards,

> >

> > Kat

> >

>