Guest guest Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Dear friends, Mars as lord of 4th and 9th house for leo lagna is a big handicap when placed in 12th house moon- the tension in marital life are sometimes unbearable ! Yoga Karka planet placed in 12th house can not help much. Again for Kumbha lagna Mars is 3,10th lord and is not a yoga karaka planet- its presence in 4th house can wreck ones' married life owing to untrained and uncontrollable behaviour/ ego problems sometimes even leading to suicide/ separation. Just blind following of the one book Jataka Chandrika will lead us nowhere- it is just a book for beginners of astrology- to keep it simple- a lot of important principles of astrology has been left by the author. So we should rather go by experience and have an holistic approach while judging Mangalya Dosha. Interestingly, Dr. B.V. Raman in his book How To Judge Horoscope (Volume-II) Dr. Raman has suggested to calculate Mangalya Dosha( dosha related to Mangalya or marriage- not Mars dosha, which is just limited to Mars only) for the chart of the bride and the groom separately and compare them before finalisation of a match. In his examples Dr. Raman calculates this dosha (Mangalya Dosha) for all the planets. SO LEARNED ASTROLOGERS MAY LIKE TO AT LEAST A STEP AHEAD WHERE DR. RAMAN HAD LEFT RATHER THAN MOVING BACK TOWARDS OBSCURITY. SIMPLY JUSTIFYING CANCELLATION OF MARS DOSHA/ MANGALYA DOSHA ETC. BY QUOTING A LOT OF CLASSICAL LITERATURE ON ASTROLOGY HAS NO PRACTICAL UTITILY- WHEN THE MARRIAGE PARTERNS HAVE TO STILL SUFFER ALL THROUGH THEIR LIFE OWING TO IT. With regards and humbleness, Mrutyunjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Good Post regards, Bhaskar. vedic astrology, jyotish mrutyunjay <astrologer_mrutyunjay wrote: > > Dear friends, > > Mars as lord of 4th and 9th house for leo lagna is a > big handicap > when placed in 12th house moon- > the tension in marital life are sometimes unbearable ! > > Yoga Karka planet placed in 12th house can not help > much. > > > Again for Kumbha lagna Mars is 3,10th lord and > is not a yoga karaka planet- > its presence in 4th house can wreck ones' married life > owing to untrained and uncontrollable behaviour/ ego > problems sometimes even leading to suicide/ > separation. > > Just blind following of the one book Jataka Chandrika > will lead us nowhere- it is just a book for beginners > of astrology- to keep it simple- a lot of important > principles of astrology has been left by the author. > So we should rather go by experience and have an > holistic approach while judging Mangalya Dosha. > > Interestingly, Dr. B.V. Raman in his book How To Judge > Horoscope (Volume-II) > > Dr. Raman has suggested to calculate Mangalya Dosha( > dosha related to Mangalya or marriage- not Mars dosha, > which is just limited to Mars only) for the chart of > the bride and the groom separately and compare them > before finalisation of a match. > > In his examples Dr. Raman calculates this dosha > (Mangalya Dosha) for all the planets. > > SO LEARNED ASTROLOGERS MAY LIKE TO AT LEAST A STEP > AHEAD WHERE DR. RAMAN HAD LEFT RATHER THAN MOVING BACK > TOWARDS OBSCURITY. > > SIMPLY JUSTIFYING CANCELLATION OF MARS DOSHA/ MANGALYA > DOSHA ETC. BY QUOTING A LOT OF CLASSICAL LITERATURE > ON ASTROLOGY HAS NO PRACTICAL UTITILY- WHEN THE > MARRIAGE PARTERNS HAVE TO STILL SUFFER ALL THROUGH > THEIR LIFE OWING TO IT. > > With regards and humbleness, > > Mrutyunjay > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Dear Bindiyaji: In the conditions mentioned in your post, there is cancellation of Mars dosha due to placement of Mars in the house of Moon. The conjunction of Sun and Moon in the 4th house is not very conductive to happiness of the native. The remedy lies in fasting on Amavasya days and worshipping Lord Shiva and Goddess Parvati for happy marital life. Also, chanting of Bhavani sahasranamam on Amavasya days will prove helpful. But, regarding the Mars dosha, there is absolute cancellation. Blessed be. vedic astrology, "bindiya" <bindiyaanurudguptha wrote: > > Namaste Shri Dakshinamoorthyji, > You have mentioned that if the dispositor of Mars is in > Kendra/trikona from the Lagna,then the Manglik Dosha is cancelled.So > for Dhanu lagna if Mars is in 8th-Karkata and Moon and Sun in 4th- > Meena,will there be total cancellation,despite debilitation or will > Neechabhanga take effect?does i hold good even if Moon is weak?Are > any other factors to be taken into consideration as this is the case > with a lady relative. > Highly obliged, > > sincerely, > bindiya. > > > 'Agnyaana timiraandhasya gnyaanaanjana shalaakayaa yen chakshu > oonmeelitam tasmai Shri Guruve Namah' > > vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear Shri. Talented God! > > > > I do not know if I qualify as an expert in astrology.....Yet, I > > thought I will comment on your post..... > > > > The combinations you have written are definitely causing > cancellation > > of mangalik dosha. And yes....there is nothing known as "DOUBLE > > MANGALIK DOSHA." But, could you kindly check up the 7th point you > > have raised about there being no mars dosha if Mars is in the 4th > or > > 8th houses for Aquarius ascendant? Late Shri. C.G. Rajan - a > > stalwart in astrology of yesteryears opines in his "Jataka > > Naradeeyam" based on astrological dictums attributed to Sage > Naarada, > > that for Aquarius ascendant, there is no Mangalik dosha if Mars is > in > > the 7th house. This is in accordance with the principle that > there > > is no Mars dosha if Mars is in Sun's house. But, there is no > > reference to cancellation of dosha for Aquarius if Mars is in 4th > or > > 8th house..... Honestly, I am yet to come across the point 7 you > > have raised in your post - i.e ". For Aquarius ascendant Mars in > the > > 4th/8th house then the manglik > dosha gets cancelled." How is > the > > Mars dosha exempt when it is in the house of Venus (4th sign from > > Aquarius) or in the house of Mercury - Virgo (8th sign from > > Aquarius)?. It does not satisfy the logic that there is no Mars > > dosha when Mars is in signs ruled by its friends Sun, Moon, and > > Jupiter! I did not intend to find a fault in your post which is > > otherwise excellent and is likely to be of use to many members; > but, > > I thought a dictum on such an important matter as mangalik dosha > > cancellation should be subject to more rigorous check before > members > > can rely on that. Otherwise, there will be more misconceptions > and > > confusions that might creep in later among the astro-enthusiasts. > > > > Again, if the dispositor of Mars (owner of the sign in which Mars > is > > posited) is in kendra (1, 4, 7, 10 houses) or trikona (1, 5, 9 > > houses) from ascendant, Mars dosha gets cancelled. > > > > Similarly, Mars in the 2nd and 7th houses in a female horoscope, > and > > in the 4th and 8th houses in a male horoscope are exempt from most > of > > the malefic effects of kuja dosha. > > > > So, if we apply ALL these principles, members will find that many > of > > the so-called "mangalik" horoscopes will in reality be exempt from > > the dreaded dosha. > > > > Blessed be. > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > > vedic astrology, > > "talentedgod" <talentedgod@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I hope to hear from experts on vedic astrology, their comments > on > > > the following conditions that cancel manglik dosha. > > > > > > Following are the combinations when the Manglik Dosha does not > > > exist. Before someone terms you a manglik check if these yogas > are > > > present in your chart.If they are then you are not a manglik. > > > > > > > > > These have also been verified in practice. REMEMBER THERE IS > > NOTHING > > > KNOWN AS DOUBLE MANGLIK DOSHA > > > > > > > > > 1. When Mars is in its own sign (Aries, Scorpio), exalted > > > (Capricorn) or in the houses owned by PLANETS SUPPOSED to be his > > > friends (Sun, Jupiter, Moon) manglik dosha gets cancelled. > > > > > > 2. If Mars is in the 2nd house but in Gemini, Virgo sign then > the > > > manglik dosha gets cancelled > > > > > > 3. If Mars is in 12th house but in Taurus, Libra then the > manglik > > > dosha gets cancelled. > > > > > > 4. If Mars is in 7th house but in Cancer, Capricorn then the > > manglik > > > dosha gets cancelled. > > > > > > 5. If Mars is in 8th house but in Sagittarius, Pisces no dosha > > > exists. > > > > > > 6. For Cancer and Leo ascendant Mars is a yogakaraka( a > beneficial > > > influence) wherever it may be no dosha at all. > > > > > > 7. For Aquarius ascendant Mars in the 4th/8th house then the > > manglik > > > dosha gets cancelled. > > > > > > 8. If benefic Jupiter or Venus is in ascendant no dosha. > > > > > > 9. If Mars is in conjunction or aspected by Jupiter or Moon no > > dosha. > > > > > > 10. If Mars is in conjunction/aspected by Sun, Mercury, Saturn, > > Rahu > > > then the manglik dosha does not exist. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Dear Friends, Manglik dosa is basically a bhava dosa . When Mars is in 1st,12th ; 4th ; 7th and 8th houses provides this dosa.In case of male charts 7th and in female charts 8th house gives maximum dosa.As 2nd house is 8th from 7th, any Malefic is bad in 2nd. In my opinion the term cancellation is not appropriate. The different combinations discussed in Jatak literature are the indication of reduction of degree of this dosa.It can not be eliminated all-together. If 7th house ,its lord ,its Karaka are strong and there are good yogas in the nativity for sustenance of marriage , even the strong Manglic dosa ,in ultimate analysis will not be able to destroy marriage.On the other hand ,if nativity is weak for sustenance of marriage , even small dosa will be enough to create disturbance in matrimonial life. I , therefore,urge to access the nativity in full . G.K.GOEL dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Bindiyaji: In the conditions mentioned in your post, there is cancellation of Mars dosha due to placement of Mars in the house of Moon. The conjunction of Sun and Moon in the 4th house is not very conductive to happiness of the native. The remedy lies in fasting on Amavasya days and worshipping Lord Shiva and Goddess Parvati for happy marital life. Also, chanting of Bhavani sahasranamam on Amavasya days will prove helpful. But, regarding the Mars dosha, there is absolute cancellation. Blessed be. vedic astrology, "bindiya" <bindiyaanurudguptha wrote: > > Namaste Shri Dakshinamoorthyji, > You have mentioned that if the dispositor of Mars is in > Kendra/trikona from the Lagna,then the Manglik Dosha is cancelled.So > for Dhanu lagna if Mars is in 8th-Karkata and Moon and Sun in 4th- > Meena,will there be total cancellation,despite debilitation or will > Neechabhanga take effect?does i hold good even if Moon is weak?Are > any other factors to be taken into consideration as this is the case > with a lady relative. > Highly obliged, > > sincerely, > bindiya. > > > 'Agnyaana timiraandhasya gnyaanaanjana shalaakayaa yen chakshu > oonmeelitam tasmai Shri Guruve Namah' > > vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear Shri. Talented God! > > > > I do not know if I qualify as an expert in astrology.....Yet, I > > thought I will comment on your post..... > > > > The combinations you have written are definitely causing > cancellation > > of mangalik dosha. And yes....there is nothing known as "DOUBLE > > MANGALIK DOSHA." But, could you kindly check up the 7th point you > > have raised about there being no mars dosha if Mars is in the 4th > or > > 8th houses for Aquarius ascendant? Late Shri. C.G. Rajan - a > > stalwart in astrology of yesteryears opines in his "Jataka > > Naradeeyam" based on astrological dictums attributed to Sage > Naarada, > > that for Aquarius ascendant, there is no Mangalik dosha if Mars is > in > > the 7th house. This is in accordance with the principle that > there > > is no Mars dosha if Mars is in Sun's house. But, there is no > > reference to cancellation of dosha for Aquarius if Mars is in 4th > or > > 8th house..... Honestly, I am yet to come across the point 7 you > > have raised in your post - i.e ". For Aquarius ascendant Mars in > the > > 4th/8th house then the manglik > dosha gets cancelled." How is > the > > Mars dosha exempt when it is in the house of Venus (4th sign from > > Aquarius) or in the house of Mercury - Virgo (8th sign from > > Aquarius)?. It does not satisfy the logic that there is no Mars > > dosha when Mars is in signs ruled by its friends Sun, Moon, and > > Jupiter! I did not intend to find a fault in your post which is > > otherwise excellent and is likely to be of use to many members; > but, > > I thought a dictum on such an important matter as mangalik dosha > > cancellation should be subject to more rigorous check before > members > > can rely on that. Otherwise, there will be more misconceptions > and > > confusions that might creep in later among the astro-enthusiasts. > > > > Again, if the dispositor of Mars (owner of the sign in which Mars > is > > posited) is in kendra (1, 4, 7, 10 houses) or trikona (1, 5, 9 > > houses) from ascendant, Mars dosha gets cancelled. > > > > Similarly, Mars in the 2nd and 7th houses in a female horoscope, > and > > in the 4th and 8th houses in a male horoscope are exempt from most > of > > the malefic effects of kuja dosha. > > > > So, if we apply ALL these principles, members will find that many > of > > the so-called "mangalik" horoscopes will in reality be exempt from > > the dreaded dosha. > > > > Blessed be. > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > > vedic astrology, > > "talentedgod" <talentedgod@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I hope to hear from experts on vedic astrology, their comments > on > > > the following conditions that cancel manglik dosha. > > > > > > Following are the combinations when the Manglik Dosha does not > > > exist. Before someone terms you a manglik check if these yogas > are > > > present in your chart.If they are then you are not a manglik. > > > > > > > > > These have also been verified in practice. REMEMBER THERE IS > > NOTHING > > > KNOWN AS DOUBLE MANGLIK DOSHA > > > > > > > > > 1. When Mars is in its own sign (Aries, Scorpio), exalted > > > (Capricorn) or in the houses owned by PLANETS SUPPOSED to be his > > > friends (Sun, Jupiter, Moon) manglik dosha gets cancelled. > > > > > > 2. If Mars is in the 2nd house but in Gemini, Virgo sign then > the > > > manglik dosha gets cancelled > > > > > > 3. If Mars is in 12th house but in Taurus, Libra then the > manglik > > > dosha gets cancelled. > > > > > > 4. If Mars is in 7th house but in Cancer, Capricorn then the > > manglik > > > dosha gets cancelled. > > > > > > 5. If Mars is in 8th house but in Sagittarius, Pisces no dosha > > > exists. > > > > > > 6. For Cancer and Leo ascendant Mars is a yogakaraka( a > beneficial > > > influence) wherever it may be no dosha at all. > > > > > > 7. For Aquarius ascendant Mars in the 4th/8th house then the > > manglik > > > dosha gets cancelled. > > > > > > 8. If benefic Jupiter or Venus is in ascendant no dosha. > > > > > > 9. If Mars is in conjunction or aspected by Jupiter or Moon no > > dosha. > > > > > > 10. If Mars is in conjunction/aspected by Sun, Mercury, Saturn, > > Rahu > > > then the manglik dosha does not exist. > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Dear Friends, Manglik dosa is basically a bhava dosa . When Mars is in 1st,12th ; 4th ; 7th and 8th houses provides this dosa.In case of male charts 7th and in female charts 8th house gives maximum dosa.As 2nd house is 8th from 7th, any Malefic is bad in 2nd. In my opinion the term cancellation is not appropriate. The different combinations discussed in Jatak literature are the indication of reduction of degree of this dosa.It can not be eliminated all-together. If 7th house ,its lord ,its Karaka are strong and there are good yogas in the nativity for sustenance of marriage , even the strong Manglic dosa ,in ultimate analysis will not be able to destroy marriage.On the other hand ,if nativity is weak for sustenance of marriage , even small dosa will be enough to create disturbance in matrimonial life. I , therefore,urge to access the nativity in full . G.K.GOEL dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Bindiyaji: In the conditions mentioned in your post, there is cancellation of Mars dosha due to placement of Mars in the house of Moon. The conjunction of Sun and Moon in the 4th house is not very conductive to happiness of the native. The remedy lies in fasting on Amavasya days and worshipping Lord Shiva and Goddess Parvati for happy marital life. Also, chanting of Bhavani sahasranamam on Amavasya days will prove helpful. But, regarding the Mars dosha, there is absolute cancellation. Blessed be. vedic astrology, "bindiya" <bindiyaanurudguptha wrote: > > Namaste Shri Dakshinamoorthyji, > You have mentioned that if the dispositor of Mars is in > Kendra/trikona from the Lagna,then the Manglik Dosha is cancelled.So > for Dhanu lagna if Mars is in 8th-Karkata and Moon and Sun in 4th- > Meena,will there be total cancellation,despite debilitation or will > Neechabhanga take effect?does i hold good even if Moon is weak?Are > any other factors to be taken into consideration as this is the case > with a lady relative. > Highly obliged, > > sincerely, > bindiya. > > > 'Agnyaana timiraandhasya gnyaanaanjana shalaakayaa yen chakshu > oonmeelitam tasmai Shri Guruve Namah' > > vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear Shri. Talented God! > > > > I do not know if I qualify as an expert in astrology.....Yet, I > > thought I will comment on your post..... > > > > The combinations you have written are definitely causing > cancellation > > of mangalik dosha. And yes....there is nothing known as "DOUBLE > > MANGALIK DOSHA." But, could you kindly check up the 7th point you > > have raised about there being no mars dosha if Mars is in the 4th > or > > 8th houses for Aquarius ascendant? Late Shri. C.G. Rajan - a > > stalwart in astrology of yesteryears opines in his "Jataka > > Naradeeyam" based on astrological dictums attributed to Sage > Naarada, > > that for Aquarius ascendant, there is no Mangalik dosha if Mars is > in > > the 7th house. This is in accordance with the principle that > there > > is no Mars dosha if Mars is in Sun's house. But, there is no > > reference to cancellation of dosha for Aquarius if Mars is in 4th > or > > 8th house..... Honestly, I am yet to come across the point 7 you > > have raised in your post - i.e ". For Aquarius ascendant Mars in > the > > 4th/8th house then the manglik > dosha gets cancelled." How is > the > > Mars dosha exempt when it is in the house of Venus (4th sign from > > Aquarius) or in the house of Mercury - Virgo (8th sign from > > Aquarius)?. It does not satisfy the logic that there is no Mars > > dosha when Mars is in signs ruled by its friends Sun, Moon, and > > Jupiter! I did not intend to find a fault in your post which is > > otherwise excellent and is likely to be of use to many members; > but, > > I thought a dictum on such an important matter as mangalik dosha > > cancellation should be subject to more rigorous check before > members > > can rely on that. Otherwise, there will be more misconceptions > and > > confusions that might creep in later among the astro-enthusiasts. > > > > Again, if the dispositor of Mars (owner of the sign in which Mars > is > > posited) is in kendra (1, 4, 7, 10 houses) or trikona (1, 5, 9 > > houses) from ascendant, Mars dosha gets cancelled. > > > > Similarly, Mars in the 2nd and 7th houses in a female horoscope, > and > > in the 4th and 8th houses in a male horoscope are exempt from most > of > > the malefic effects of kuja dosha. > > > > So, if we apply ALL these principles, members will find that many > of > > the so-called "mangalik" horoscopes will in reality be exempt from > > the dreaded dosha. > > > > Blessed be. > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > > vedic astrology, > > "talentedgod" <talentedgod@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I hope to hear from experts on vedic astrology, their comments > on > > > the following conditions that cancel manglik dosha. > > > > > > Following are the combinations when the Manglik Dosha does not > > > exist. Before someone terms you a manglik check if these yogas > are > > > present in your chart.If they are then you are not a manglik. > > > > > > > > > These have also been verified in practice. REMEMBER THERE IS > > NOTHING > > > KNOWN AS DOUBLE MANGLIK DOSHA > > > > > > > > > 1. When Mars is in its own sign (Aries, Scorpio), exalted > > > (Capricorn) or in the houses owned by PLANETS SUPPOSED to be his > > > friends (Sun, Jupiter, Moon) manglik dosha gets cancelled. > > > > > > 2. If Mars is in the 2nd house but in Gemini, Virgo sign then > the > > > manglik dosha gets cancelled > > > > > > 3. If Mars is in 12th house but in Taurus, Libra then the > manglik > > > dosha gets cancelled. > > > > > > 4. If Mars is in 7th house but in Cancer, Capricorn then the > > manglik > > > dosha gets cancelled. > > > > > > 5. If Mars is in 8th house but in Sagittarius, Pisces no dosha > > > exists. > > > > > > 6. For Cancer and Leo ascendant Mars is a yogakaraka( a > beneficial > > > influence) wherever it may be no dosha at all. > > > > > > 7. For Aquarius ascendant Mars in the 4th/8th house then the > > manglik > > > dosha gets cancelled. > > > > > > 8. If benefic Jupiter or Venus is in ascendant no dosha. > > > > > > 9. If Mars is in conjunction or aspected by Jupiter or Moon no > > dosha. > > > > > > 10. If Mars is in conjunction/aspected by Sun, Mercury, Saturn, > > Rahu > > > then the manglik dosha does not exist. > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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