Guest guest Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Dear Visti, Thank you for clarifying this important point that you have stated regarding John Kerry's chart in your book. I think this is the right time to have a final consilidated view about the Narayan Dasha, at this point. So the conclusion is that if the Dwisaptati Sama Dasha applies in the chart, the focus of the native is seen from the Dasha Rashi irrespective of the fact whether the Lagna is stronger or the 7th House from the Lagna is stronger. Would that be right? At the same time, the events as they come from 'others' or 'the world' are seen from the 7th from Dasha Rashi, in case where the Dwisaptati Sama Dasha applies. Is that correct? Best Wishes, Anurag http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com , "Visti Larsen" <visti wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > Dear Anurag, Namaskar > I was trying to point out why in the case of George Bush, we can see the > results from Dasa rasi itself for his political agenda, even though seventh > lord is in lagna. > For John Kerry you will see that from Leo (treated as lagna) there is > simhasana yoga. Hence, Kerry was seeking the throne. However, from Aquarius > both Saturn and Rahu are ill placed and both are aspecting the arudha lagna > showing the efforts of others to inflict damage on his reputation and deny > him of the throne (curse is there). > Now, normally you would expect him to be very bitter after this, but his > statement is merely "sometimes God tests us". Surely his perspective is seen > from Leo and not Aquarius during this time. > Some expect him to be running in 2008. The dasa then is much more auspicious > - i hope he runs. > Best wishes, > *** > Visti Larsen > For services and articles visit: > <http://srigaruda.com/> http://srigaruda.com > *** > > > _____ > > [] On > Behalf Of Anurag Sharma > 29 August 2006 11:17 > > Anurag - Narayana dasa (RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: My marriage > delays) > > > > Dear Visti, > > This thread was in the context of the initial exchange between Rafal > and Samir. Rafal appeared to suggest that Saptamesh in Udaya Lagna > would alter the usual way of judgment from either Dasha Rashi or the > 7th therefrom, based on whether the Lagna or the 7th House was > stronger in the Rashi Chakra. > > Regards, > Anurag Sharma > http://www.planetar <http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com> > ytransformation.blogspot.com > @ <%40> > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@> > wrote: > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Anurag, Namaskar > > Maybe i misunderstood you. I thought you wanted an example of how > the dasa > > rasi/seventh house works in a chart, and how the seventh from dasa > rasi (or > > dasa rasi itself if dasa started from seventh house) shows the > events > > occuring around the native. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > For services and articles visit: > > <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com/> com/> http://srigaruda. > <http://srigaruda.com> com > > *** > > > > > > _____ > > > > @ <%40> > > [@ <%40> > ] On > > Behalf Of Anurag Sharma > > 28 August 2006 21:12 > > @ <%40> > > Anurag - Narayana dasa (RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: My > marriage > > delays) > > > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > In this chart, the Lagnesh is not in the 7th and neither is the > 7th > > Lord in the Lagna. So, what is the reason for taking the Dasha > Rashi > > as Lagna, even when the 7th House is stronger? > > > > Best wishes, > > Anurag. > > http://www.planetar > <http://www.planetar <http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com> > ytransformation.blogspot.com> > > ytransformation.blogspot.com > > > > @ <%40> > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@> > > wrote: > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > Dear Hamendra, Namaskar > > > We can do both depending on context. > > > > > > Heres one example of a lady: > > > September 8, 1980 > > > Time: 3:09:30 pm > > > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 15 E 47' 00", 44 N 18' 00" > > > Gracacki Dolovi, Croatia > > > In this chart the dasas start from the seventh house, and if we > > treat dasa rasi as lagna we see libra dasa running from 1989- 1998. > > Libra is joined Mars (battle/struggle) and its lord is Venus > joined > > the Kala-amrita Yoga. Now this Kala Amrita Yoga is along the > > second/eighth axis, hence the issue is money and the family was > > propelled into severe poverty as they lost their home, assets and > > were left with only with whatever they could carry with them. But, > > if we see the results from Aries the picture is not so clear. Here > > the seventh is clearly showing the world and events occuring > around > > the native, but her personal experience was Aries. > > > > > > The most significant event for this lady during this time was > the > > demise of her mother. Lord of Aries - Mars is the Matrikaraka and > > undergoes a chara karaka replacement, leaving the role of the > mother > > to the Moon who is involved in an amavasya dosha. > > > So two occurances are happening during this time - the world is > > bringing the kala amrita yoga, whilst the personal experience is > the > > demise of mother. > > > > > > Point is that this principle of analysing narayana dasa, is most > > important in case of people who are affected strongly by outside > > circumstances. Politicians, famous actors, royalty and also incase > > of the charts of countries, we need to bring alot of focus to this > > 1/7 axis in the narayana dasa. > > > I hope this helps. > > > Best wishes, > > > *** > > > Visti Larsen > > > For services and articles visit: > > > <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com/> com/> > com/> > http://srigaruda. > > <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com> com> com > > > *** > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > @ <%40> > > > > [@ <%40> > > ] On Behalf Of Hamendra > > > 28 August 2006 12:34 > > > @ <%40> > > > > Re: Anurag - Narayana dasa (RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: > My > > marriage delays) > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti and Anurag, > > > > > > While analysing my grandfather's chart Sanjay ji specifically > > used the dasha rasi itself (sagittarius dasa starting in october > > 2006) and not the 7th from it even though 7th house is stronger .I > > am attaching the chart below.Can you throw some light on this? > > > > > > Is it because Mars is getting neechabhanga? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Hamendra > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/27/06, Anurag Sharma < anuraagsharma27@ > > <anuraagsharma27@> hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > Thank you for referring back to this exchange. The example > charts > > > would certainly illuminate the application of the principle. > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > Anurag. > > > http://www.planetar > > <http://www.planetar > <http://www.planetar <http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com> > ytransformation.blogspot.com> > > ytransformation.blogspot.com> > > ytransformation.blogspot.com > > > > > > @ <%40> > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ||Hemabhushabaradaya|| > > > > Dear Anurag, Namaskar > > > > Heres the beauty of the Narayana Dasa. Incase of seventh lord > in > > > lagna or > > > > lagnesh in seventh, the dasa rasi itself will show the > > > circumstances around > > > > the native, or what the events of the world are around the > > native. > > > This > > > > shows people with a strong personal desire which is dominating > > > over the > > > > perception of the events in the world. Let me know if you > would > > > like some > > > > examples. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda. > <http://srigaruda.com/> com/> > com/> > > com/> > > http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda. > <http://srigaruda.com> com> com> > com > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > @ <%40> > > > > > [@ <%40> > > ] On > > > > Behalf Of Anurag Sharma > > > > 12 August 2006 13:31 > > > > @ <%40> > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: My marriage delays > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > > > > > As discussed, I checked the rule about Saptamesh in Uday Lagna > > and > > > > the Lagnesh in the 7th for jusdging the Dasha Rashi in Narayan > > > Dasha > > > > in your book. > > > > > > > > In John Kerry's chart, the Lagnesh is in the 7th, and so even > > > though > > > > the 7th House is stronger, you say that "...one should reckon > > the > > > > results from 7th from Dasha Rashi, however, as Kerry's Lagna > > lord > > > is > > > > in the 7th House, the results can be seen from the 7th House > > > > itself". The last bit is probably a typo. I think the results > > can > > > be > > > > seen from the Dasha Rashi is what you mean, even though the > 7th > > is > > > > stronger, because the Lagna Lord is in the 7th. > > > > > > > > But in the preceding chart of George W. Bush, the 7th Lord is > in > > > > Lagna and the Lagna is stronger but the Dashas are still > > > interpreted > > > > from the Dasha Rashi and not from the 7th, which should be the > > > case > > > > as the 7th Lord Saturn is in Lagna. Please explain. > > > > > > > > Incidentally, even in the next chart given under "Job > Problems", > > > the > > > > 7th Lord is in Lagna but does this have an influence on the > > > judgment? > > > > > > > > Perhaps I am missing somthing but I would be grateful if you > > could > > > > explain. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Anurag. > > > > > > > http://www.planetar > > > <http://www.planetar > > <http://www.planetar > <http://www.planetar <http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com> > ytransformation.blogspot.com> > > ytransformation.blogspot.com> > > ytransformation.blogspot.com> > > > > ytransformation. <http://ytransformat > > <http://ytransformat <http://ytransformation.blogspot.com> > ion.blogspot.com> ion.blogspot.com> > > blogspot.com > > > > > > > > @ <%40> > > > > > > > . <http://. <http://. > <http://> com> > com> com, > > "Visti Larsen" > > <visti@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anurag, Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > Yes this is a very interesting rule. I learnt it from Guruji > > and > > > i > > > > have > > > > > published it in my book in the Narayana Dasa section. Do go > > > > through it as i > > > > > have tried to give many of the clues which narayana dasa has. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda. < http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda. > > <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com> com> com> > > com> com> http://srigaruda. > > > > <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda. > <http://srigaruda.com> com> > com> com> > > com > > > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > @ <%40> > > > > . <http://. <http://. > <http://> com> > com> com > > > > [@ < <srijagannat> > > %40> > > > > > > > . <http://. <http://. > <http://> com> > com> com] On > > > > > Behalf Of Anurag Sharma > > > > > 11 August 2006 16:37 > > > > > > > > @ <%40> > > > . <http://. <http://. > <http://> com> com> > com > > > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: My marriage delays > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I agree. All rules that come from Sri Jagannath, the > > Round > > > > Eyed > > > > > One, are nice. What else is there in Him except Benevolence. > > > > > > > > > > I will try it. Must be desire, seen from the Saptamesh in > > Lagna > > > > (or > > > > > the Lagnesh in the 7th?) that makes the 7th from Lagna be > the > > > > > reference. > > > > > > > > > > Then, suppose the Lagna Lord is in the 7th House and the 7th > > > House > > > > > is stronger, the Narayan Dasha will be judged from the 7th > > from > > > > the > > > > > Dasha Rashi. But would the Lagnesh in the 7th reverse that > and > > > > even > > > > > though the 7th is stronger, the Dasha Rashi will give the > > > results? > > > > > > > > > > I had once asked Sanjay Ji, that he had said he would reveal > > > more > > > > > about the Narayan Dasha, well, this must be a part of that. > He > > > had > > > > > written, who can understand Narayan fully... > > > > > > > > > > Kindly explain the above query about the Lagnesh in the 7th, > > if > > > > you > > > > > can. It's a new thing for me and I would appreciate the > > insight > > > > into > > > > > the rule. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > http://www.planetar > > > > <http://www.planetar > > > <http://www.planetar > > <http://www.planetar > <http://www.planetar <http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com> > ytransformation.blogspot.com> > > ytransformation.blogspot.com> > > ytransformation.blogspot.com> > > > > ytransformation. <http://ytransformat > > <http://ytransformat <http://ytransformation.blogspot.com> > ion.blogspot.com> ion.blogspot.com> > > blogspot.com> > > > > > ytransformation. <http://ytransformat > > <http://ytransformat <http://ytransformation.blogspot.com> > ion.blogspot.com> ion.blogspot.com> > > blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > > @ <% 40> > > > > > . <http://. <http://. > <http://> com> > com> com, > > "Rafal Gendarz" > > > > > <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > vyam vyasadevaya namah > > > > > > Dear Anurag, > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, this is next nice rule. Try how it works and tell us! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > > @ <% 40> > > > > . <http://. <http://. > <http://> com> > com> com > > > > > > Friday, August 11, 2006 12:20 PM > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: My marriage delays > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > This is just a message seeking clarification regarding > > > > > > the 'Saptamesh in Udaya Lagna' explanation you have given > to > > > > > Samir > > > > > > for looking at Kanya Rashi for the Meena Narayan Dasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Is this a rule that has been taught lately? From what I > have > > > > > learnt > > > > > > from Sanjay Ji's book Narayan Dasha, the 7th House from > the > > > > > Dasha > > > > > > Rashi is to be taken as the Lagna when the Narayan Dashas > > > start > > > > > from > > > > > > the 7th House from Lagna. Here it is not so. The Lagna is > > > > > stronger, > > > > > > so just from what I know, the progression of the Lagna in > > the > > > > > Rashi > > > > > > Chakra should be seen from the Narayan Dasha Rashi and not > > the > > > > > 7th. > > > > > > > > > > > > Till now, I thought the Lagna Lord in the 7th or the 7th > > Lord > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > Lagna was a condition for the application of the > conditional > > > Udu > > > > > > Dasha called Dwisaptati Sama Dasha which is applicable in > > the > > > > > chart > > > > > > under scrutiny as the 7th Lord Surya is in the Lagna > Bhava. > > Is > > > > > this > > > > > > also a rule to judge the 7th from the Narayan Dasha Rashi > if > > > the > > > > > 7th > > > > > > Lord is in Lagna? > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not come across this rule before. Kindly write more > > > > > > elaborately about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > > http://www.planetar > > > > <http://www.planetar > > > <http://www.planetar > > <http://www.planetar > <http://www.planetar <http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com> > ytransformation.blogspot.com> > > ytransformation.blogspot.com> > > ytransformation.blogspot.com> > > > > ytransformation. <http://ytransformat > > <http://ytransformat <http://ytransformation.blogspot.com> > ion.blogspot.com> ion.blogspot.com> > > blogspot.com> > > > > > > > > ytransformation. <http://ytransformat > > <http://ytransformat <http://ytransformation.blogspot.com> > ion.blogspot.com> ion.blogspot.com> > > blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > > > > @ <% > 40> > > > > > . <http://. <http://. > <http://> com> > com> com, > > "Rafal Gendarz" > > > > > > <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya > > > > > > > Dear Samir, Namaskar > > > > > > > replies below Your doubts. > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > Samir Shah > > > > > > > @ <% 40> > > > > > . <http://. <http://. > <http://> com> > com> com > > > > > > > Friday, August 11, 2006 7:36 AM > > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] My marriage delays > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || hare r�ma k��na || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some questions below! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This Pi Mahadasa (which are You running now) is very > > > > > > promising, Virgo is aspected by Shukra and in seventh from > > it > > > > > which > > > > > > confirms Your high desires to get married in that period. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [samir] Why Virgo, if it's Pisces dasa we're looking at? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Rafal] Saptamesh in UDAYA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon is very important per Saravali at commencing the > > Dasa. > > > > > > Surya is for baking / ripening & Chandra for sustenence > > (Moola > > > > > dasa > > > > > > chapter). So Chandra is in ninth bhava with Shukra which > is > > > very > > > > > > good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [samir] Rafal, I get very confused by you sometimes . > > > Which > > > > > > chart are you using? Is it a DPC? In Rasi, Chandra is in > 5th > > > > > with > > > > > > Shani. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Rafal] Yes. I have tenth lord in Maya amsa in D-24. DPC > > of > > > Pi- > > > > > > MD. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again Shukra is exalted which show that the person must > be > > > > > > spiritual, this is confirmed by Tithi lord in eight bhava. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [samir] Tithi lord for the Natal chart is Buddha, placed > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > 12th... please say which chart you're using. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Rafal] As above. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Srimanth bhava in chitta-house gives us hint about love- > > > > > > marriage. As this is in fifth and ninth bhavas it can > happen > > > in > > > > > > middle or late period of dasa. But ingeration of fasting > and > > > > > mantra > > > > > > can fasten the process. It can happen in Sg-antardasa (02- > 07 > > > to > > > > > 02- > > > > > > 08). It will be surya antardasa as seventh lord in D-1 and > > > kona > > > > > to > > > > > > 7H in D-9. The person will have impact on Your career (Ra > in > > > 7H > > > > > from > > > > > > Karakamsa in 10H with UL) and this person will control > Your > > > > > > health/status so it can be stresfful situation (2/12) (You > > > have > > > > > > Surya in Lagna and Venus in Leo Navamsa so the love > matters > > > can > > > > > > bring ego issues) - so the fasting should goin' on. Mantra > > is > > > > > > always neccessary! It will help You make a proper choice > > > because > > > > > You > > > > > > tend to make mistakes in relationships (Ke with A7). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [samir] In the chart I'm looking at, Rahu is in 5th from > > > > > > Karakamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Rafal] Yes, you are right, it will give blockage to > atma > > > > > > manifesting in career-front and marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Samir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Anurag, Namaskar No. In Bush's chart we must see his personal view from the seventh from Dasa rasi, whils the dasa rasi itself is showing the world. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: <http://srigaruda.com/> http://srigaruda.com *** _____ [] On Behalf Of Anurag Sharma 29 August 2006 12:02 Anurag - Narayana dasa (RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: My marriage delays) Dear Visti, Thank you for clarifying this important point that you have stated regarding John Kerry's chart in your book. I think this is the right time to have a final consilidated view about the Narayan Dasha, at this point. So the conclusion is that if the Dwisaptati Sama Dasha applies in the chart, the focus of the native is seen from the Dasha Rashi irrespective of the fact whether the Lagna is stronger or the 7th House from the Lagna is stronger. Would that be right? At the same time, the events as they come from 'others' or 'the world' are seen from the 7th from Dasha Rashi, in case where the Dwisaptati Sama Dasha applies. Is that correct? Best Wishes, Anurag http://www.planetar <http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com> ytransformation.blogspot.com @ <%40> , "Visti Larsen" <visti wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > Dear Anurag, Namaskar > I was trying to point out why in the case of George Bush, we can see the > results from Dasa rasi itself for his political agenda, even though seventh > lord is in lagna. > For John Kerry you will see that from Leo (treated as lagna) there is > simhasana yoga. Hence, Kerry was seeking the throne. However, from Aquarius > both Saturn and Rahu are ill placed and both are aspecting the arudha lagna > showing the efforts of others to inflict damage on his reputation and deny > him of the throne (curse is there). > Now, normally you would expect him to be very bitter after this, but his > statement is merely "sometimes God tests us". Surely his perspective is seen > from Leo and not Aquarius during this time. > Some expect him to be running in 2008. The dasa then is much more auspicious > - i hope he runs. > Best wishes, > *** > Visti Larsen > For services and articles visit: > <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com/> com/> http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com> com > *** > > > _____ > > @ <%40> [@ <%40> ] On > Behalf Of Anurag Sharma > 29 August 2006 11:17 > @ <%40> > Anurag - Narayana dasa (RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: My marriage > delays) > > > > Dear Visti, > > This thread was in the context of the initial exchange between Rafal > and Samir. Rafal appeared to suggest that Saptamesh in Udaya Lagna > would alter the usual way of judgment from either Dasha Rashi or the > 7th therefrom, based on whether the Lagna or the 7th House was > stronger in the Rashi Chakra. > > Regards, > Anurag Sharma > http://www.planetar <http://www.planetar <http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com> ytransformation.blogspot.com> > ytransformation.blogspot.com > @ <%40> > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@> > wrote: > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Anurag, Namaskar > > Maybe i misunderstood you. I thought you wanted an example of how > the dasa > > rasi/seventh house works in a chart, and how the seventh from dasa > rasi (or > > dasa rasi itself if dasa started from seventh house) shows the > events > > occuring around the native. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > For services and articles visit: > > <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com/> com/> com/> http://srigaruda. > <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com> com> com > > *** > > > > > > _____ > > > > @ <%40> > > [@ <%40> > ] On > > Behalf Of Anurag Sharma > > 28 August 2006 21:12 > > @ <%40> > > Anurag - Narayana dasa (RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: My > marriage > > delays) > > > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > In this chart, the Lagnesh is not in the 7th and neither is the > 7th > > Lord in the Lagna. So, what is the reason for taking the Dasha > Rashi > > as Lagna, even when the 7th House is stronger? > > > > Best wishes, > > Anurag. > > http://www.planetar > <http://www.planetar <http://www.planetar <http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com> ytransformation.blogspot.com> > ytransformation.blogspot.com> > > ytransformation.blogspot.com > > > > @ <%40> > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@> > > wrote: > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > Dear Hamendra, Namaskar > > > We can do both depending on context. > > > > > > Heres one example of a lady: > > > September 8, 1980 > > > Time: 3:09:30 pm > > > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 15 E 47' 00", 44 N 18' 00" > > > Gracacki Dolovi, Croatia > > > In this chart the dasas start from the seventh house, and if we > > treat dasa rasi as lagna we see libra dasa running from 1989- 1998. > > Libra is joined Mars (battle/struggle) and its lord is Venus > joined > > the Kala-amrita Yoga. Now this Kala Amrita Yoga is along the > > second/eighth axis, hence the issue is money and the family was > > propelled into severe poverty as they lost their home, assets and > > were left with only with whatever they could carry with them. But, > > if we see the results from Aries the picture is not so clear. Here > > the seventh is clearly showing the world and events occuring > around > > the native, but her personal experience was Aries. > > > > > > The most significant event for this lady during this time was > the > > demise of her mother. Lord of Aries - Mars is the Matrikaraka and > > undergoes a chara karaka replacement, leaving the role of the > mother > > to the Moon who is involved in an amavasya dosha. > > > So two occurances are happening during this time - the world is > > bringing the kala amrita yoga, whilst the personal experience is > the > > demise of mother. > > > > > > Point is that this principle of analysing narayana dasa, is most > > important in case of people who are affected strongly by outside > > circumstances. Politicians, famous actors, royalty and also incase > > of the charts of countries, we need to bring alot of focus to this > > 1/7 axis in the narayana dasa. > > > I hope this helps. > > > Best wishes, > > > *** > > > Visti Larsen > > > For services and articles visit: > > > <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com/> com/> com/> > com/> > http://srigaruda. > > <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com> com> com> com > > > *** > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > @ <%40> > > > > [@ <%40> > > ] On Behalf Of Hamendra > > > 28 August 2006 12:34 > > > @ <%40> > > > > Re: Anurag - Narayana dasa (RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: > My > > marriage delays) > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti and Anurag, > > > > > > While analysing my grandfather's chart Sanjay ji specifically > > used the dasha rasi itself (sagittarius dasa starting in october > > 2006) and not the 7th from it even though 7th house is stronger .I > > am attaching the chart below.Can you throw some light on this? > > > > > > Is it because Mars is getting neechabhanga? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Hamendra > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/27/06, Anurag Sharma < anuraagsharma27@ > > <anuraagsharma27@> hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > Thank you for referring back to this exchange. The example > charts > > > would certainly illuminate the application of the principle. > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > Anurag. > > > http://www.planetar > > <http://www.planetar > <http://www.planetar <http://www.planetar <http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com> ytransformation.blogspot.com> > ytransformation.blogspot.com> > > ytransformation.blogspot.com> > > ytransformation.blogspot.com > > > > > > @ <%40> > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ||Hemabhushabaradaya|| > > > > Dear Anurag, Namaskar > > > > Heres the beauty of the Narayana Dasa. Incase of seventh lord > in > > > lagna or > > > > lagnesh in seventh, the dasa rasi itself will show the > > > circumstances around > > > > the native, or what the events of the world are around the > > native. > > > This > > > > shows people with a strong personal desire which is dominating > > > over the > > > > perception of the events in the world. Let me know if you > would > > > like some > > > > examples. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda. > <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com/> com/> com/> > com/> > > com/> > > http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda. > <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com> com> com> com> > com > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > @ <%40> > > > > > [@ <%40> > > ] On > > > > Behalf Of Anurag Sharma > > > > 12 August 2006 13:31 > > > > @ <%40> > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: My marriage delays > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > > > > > As discussed, I checked the rule about Saptamesh in Uday Lagna > > and > > > > the Lagnesh in the 7th for jusdging the Dasha Rashi in Narayan > > > Dasha > > > > in your book. > > > > > > > > In John Kerry's chart, the Lagnesh is in the 7th, and so even > > > though > > > > the 7th House is stronger, you say that "...one should reckon > > the > > > > results from 7th from Dasha Rashi, however, as Kerry's Lagna > > lord > > > is > > > > in the 7th House, the results can be seen from the 7th House > > > > itself". The last bit is probably a typo. I think the results > > can > > > be > > > > seen from the Dasha Rashi is what you mean, even though the > 7th > > is > > > > stronger, because the Lagna Lord is in the 7th. > > > > > > > > But in the preceding chart of George W. Bush, the 7th Lord is > in > > > > Lagna and the Lagna is stronger but the Dashas are still > > > interpreted > > > > from the Dasha Rashi and not from the 7th, which should be the > > > case > > > > as the 7th Lord Saturn is in Lagna. Please explain. > > > > > > > > Incidentally, even in the next chart given under "Job > Problems", > > > the > > > > 7th Lord is in Lagna but does this have an influence on the > > > judgment? > > > > > > > > Perhaps I am missing somthing but I would be grateful if you > > could > > > > explain. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Anurag. > > > > > > > http://www.planetar > > > <http://www.planetar > > <http://www.planetar > <http://www.planetar <http://www.planetar <http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com> ytransformation.blogspot.com> > ytransformation.blogspot.com> > > ytransformation.blogspot.com> > > ytransformation.blogspot.com> > > > > ytransformation. <http://ytransformat > > <http://ytransformat <http://ytransformat <http://ytransformation.blogspot.com> ion.blogspot.com> > ion.blogspot.com> ion.blogspot.com> > > blogspot.com > > > > > > > > @ <%40> > > > > > > > . <http://. <http://. > <http://. <http://> com> com> > com> com, > > "Visti Larsen" > > <visti@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anurag, Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > Yes this is a very interesting rule. I learnt it from Guruji > > and > > > i > > > > have > > > > > published it in my book in the Narayana Dasa section. Do go > > > > through it as i > > > > > have tried to give many of the clues which narayana dasa has. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda. < http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda. > > <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com> com> com> com> > > com> com> http://srigaruda. > > > > <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda. > <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com> com> com> > com> com> > > com > > > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > @ <%40> > > > > . <http://. <http://. > <http://. <http://> com> com> > com> com > > > > [@ < <srijagannat> > > %40> > > > > > > > . <http://. <http://. > <http://. <http://> com> com> > com> com] On > > > > > Behalf Of Anurag Sharma > > > > > 11 August 2006 16:37 > > > > > > > > @ <%40> > > > . <http://. <http://. > <http://. <http://> com> com> com> > com > > > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: My marriage delays > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I agree. All rules that come from Sri Jagannath, the > > Round > > > > Eyed > > > > > One, are nice. What else is there in Him except Benevolence. > > > > > > > > > > I will try it. Must be desire, seen from the Saptamesh in > > Lagna > > > > (or > > > > > the Lagnesh in the 7th?) that makes the 7th from Lagna be > the > > > > > reference. > > > > > > > > > > Then, suppose the Lagna Lord is in the 7th House and the 7th > > > House > > > > > is stronger, the Narayan Dasha will be judged from the 7th > > from > > > > the > > > > > Dasha Rashi. But would the Lagnesh in the 7th reverse that > and > > > > even > > > > > though the 7th is stronger, the Dasha Rashi will give the > > > results? > > > > > > > > > > I had once asked Sanjay Ji, that he had said he would reveal > > > more > > > > > about the Narayan Dasha, well, this must be a part of that. > He > > > had > > > > > written, who can understand Narayan fully... > > > > > > > > > > Kindly explain the above query about the Lagnesh in the 7th, > > if > > > > you > > > > > can. It's a new thing for me and I would appreciate the > > insight > > > > into > > > > > the rule. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > http://www.planetar > > > > <http://www.planetar > > > <http://www.planetar > > <http://www.planetar > <http://www.planetar <http://www.planetar <http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com> ytransformation.blogspot.com> > ytransformation.blogspot.com> > > ytransformation.blogspot.com> > > ytransformation.blogspot.com> > > > > ytransformation. <http://ytransformat > > <http://ytransformat <http://ytransformat <http://ytransformation.blogspot.com> ion.blogspot.com> > ion.blogspot.com> ion.blogspot.com> > > blogspot.com> > > > > > ytransformation. <http://ytransformat > > <http://ytransformat <http://ytransformat <http://ytransformation.blogspot.com> ion.blogspot.com> > ion.blogspot.com> ion.blogspot.com> > > blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > > @ <% 40> > > > > > . <http://. <http://. > <http://. <http://> com> com> > com> com, > > "Rafal Gendarz" > > > > > <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > vyam vyasadevaya namah > > > > > > Dear Anurag, > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, this is next nice rule. Try how it works and tell us! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > > @ <% 40> > > > > . <http://. <http://. > <http://. <http://> com> com> > com> com > > > > > > Friday, August 11, 2006 12:20 PM > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: My marriage delays > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > This is just a message seeking clarification regarding > > > > > > the 'Saptamesh in Udaya Lagna' explanation you have given > to > > > > > Samir > > > > > > for looking at Kanya Rashi for the Meena Narayan Dasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Is this a rule that has been taught lately? From what I > have > > > > > learnt > > > > > > from Sanjay Ji's book Narayan Dasha, the 7th House from > the > > > > > Dasha > > > > > > Rashi is to be taken as the Lagna when the Narayan Dashas > > > start > > > > > from > > > > > > the 7th House from Lagna. Here it is not so. The Lagna is > > > > > stronger, > > > > > > so just from what I know, the progression of the Lagna in > > the > > > > > Rashi > > > > > > Chakra should be seen from the Narayan Dasha Rashi and not > > the > > > > > 7th. > > > > > > > > > > > > Till now, I thought the Lagna Lord in the 7th or the 7th > > Lord > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > Lagna was a condition for the application of the > conditional > > > Udu > > > > > > Dasha called Dwisaptati Sama Dasha which is applicable in > > the > > > > > chart > > > > > > under scrutiny as the 7th Lord Surya is in the Lagna > Bhava. > > Is > > > > > this > > > > > > also a rule to judge the 7th from the Narayan Dasha Rashi > if > > > the > > > > > 7th > > > > > > Lord is in Lagna? > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not come across this rule before. Kindly write more > > > > > > elaborately about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > > http://www.planetar > > > > <http://www.planetar > > > <http://www.planetar > > <http://www.planetar > <http://www.planetar <http://www.planetar <http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com> ytransformation.blogspot.com> > ytransformation.blogspot.com> > > ytransformation.blogspot.com> > > ytransformation.blogspot.com> > > > > ytransformation. <http://ytransformat > > <http://ytransformat <http://ytransformat <http://ytransformation.blogspot.com> ion.blogspot.com> > ion.blogspot.com> ion.blogspot.com> > > blogspot.com> > > > > > > > > ytransformation. <http://ytransformat > > <http://ytransformat <http://ytransformat <http://ytransformation.blogspot.com> ion.blogspot.com> > ion.blogspot.com> ion.blogspot.com> > > blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > > > > @ <% > 40> > > > > > . <http://. <http://. > <http://. <http://> com> com> > com> com, > > "Rafal Gendarz" > > > > > > <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya > > > > > > > Dear Samir, Namaskar > > > > > > > replies below Your doubts. > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > Samir Shah > > > > > > > @ <% 40> > > > > > . <http://. <http://. > <http://. <http://> com> com> > com> com > > > > > > > Friday, August 11, 2006 7:36 AM > > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] My marriage delays > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || hare r�ma k��na || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some questions below! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This Pi Mahadasa (which are You running now) is very > > > > > > promising, Virgo is aspected by Shukra and in seventh from > > it > > > > > which > > > > > > confirms Your high desires to get married in that period. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [samir] Why Virgo, if it's Pisces dasa we're looking at? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Rafal] Saptamesh in UDAYA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon is very important per Saravali at commencing the > > Dasa. > > > > > > Surya is for baking / ripening & Chandra for sustenence > > (Moola > > > > > dasa > > > > > > chapter). So Chandra is in ninth bhava with Shukra which > is > > > very > > > > > > good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [samir] Rafal, I get very confused by you sometimes . > > > Which > > > > > > chart are you using? Is it a DPC? In Rasi, Chandra is in > 5th > > > > > with > > > > > > Shani. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Rafal] Yes. I have tenth lord in Maya amsa in D-24. DPC > > of > > > Pi- > > > > > > MD. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again Shukra is exalted which show that the person must > be > > > > > > spiritual, this is confirmed by Tithi lord in eight bhava. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [samir] Tithi lord for the Natal chart is Buddha, placed > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > 12th... please say which chart you're using. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Rafal] As above. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Srimanth bhava in chitta-house gives us hint about love- > > > > > > marriage. As this is in fifth and ninth bhavas it can > happen > > > in > > > > > > middle or late period of dasa. But ingeration of fasting > and > > > > > mantra > > > > > > can fasten the process. It can happen in Sg-antardasa (02- > 07 > > > to > > > > > 02- > > > > > > 08). It will be surya antardasa as seventh lord in D-1 and > > > kona > > > > > to > > > > > > 7H in D-9. The person will have impact on Your career (Ra > in > > > 7H > > > > > from > > > > > > Karakamsa in 10H with UL) and this person will control > Your > > > > > > health/status so it can be stresfful situation (2/12) (You > > > have > > > > > > Surya in Lagna and Venus in Leo Navamsa so the love > matters > > > can > > > > > > bring ego issues) - so the fasting should goin' on. Mantra > > is > > > > > > always neccessary! It will help You make a proper choice > > > because > > > > > You > > > > > > tend to make mistakes in relationships (Ke with A7). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [samir] In the chart I'm looking at, Rahu is in 5th from > > > > > > Karakamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Rafal] Yes, you are right, it will give blockage to > atma > > > > > > manifesting in career-front and marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Samir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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