Sloka Vs Experience 4/ Ounce of exp more than 10 tens oof theory

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||Om Datta Guru||

 

 

 

Dear

 

 

 

v Ramans Grandfather is quoted here. Grandfather lost his temper

and retorted to Raman "Palaniswamy is an upstart. He only knows how

to quote slokas but not how to apply them. We have to go by experience.

An ounce of experience is worth ten tons of theory"

 

 

 

v I met an astrologer in the north who would keep on quoting

slokas for everything. My meeting lasted 10 hrs and was very impressed

with him though I kept on repeating him the danger of reliance on

slokas. I had a grave question bothering me, he cast chart and explained

the chart to me beautifully giving wonderful predictions of how I would

get the job that was being discussed & go abroad, live in a beautiful

house, he described the house, the boss, the girl I would meet there etc

etc. I was most impressed by how he taught me how to see the prashna

chart and felt equipped with Stinger missles in prashna analysis. His

prediction failed miserably but that's not the question at hand, the

question at hand is I asked him interpretation of a word in Sanskrit, he

took 5 seconds (too long) & asked me what is the verse and from which

book, when I quoted he said the interpretation I had was correct but why

need the full verse, what about the Shaddarth that KNR speaks about ,

this man couldn't do it. When he took 5 secs for a word I knew he

doesn't know sanskrit since if one sits at Patels feet every day one

realises what is Sanskrit n what is not.

 

v Then the story of a Guru from WEST to india (not europe nor

america) who wanted me to part with my Guru Nadi & Bhrigu Nadi so that

she could translate it into english. I was shocked, I asked her when did

she learn sanskrit, she said 1 yr back, her student was also insisting

me to part with the nadis. I first sent her 5 scanned copy of Nakshatra

Chudamani she couldn't translate it & gave smartish answers like

ohhh this is wonderful , rare knowledge, send me all. Today this Guru

professes to be expert in Sanskrit, then how come this Guru was recently

seeking help to in some translation openly

 

 

 

Unfortunately internet lists are only about theory theory theory,

scholarly debate & no group research to test shlokas statistically. Most

of these lists are "You scratch my back I scratch urs & yours" - a drama

we in astro community are good at (including me) but to be honest we

learn zero astrology. The real astrology who knows will never speak

about it whereas we only speak and with that knowledge often play with

peoples lives n emotions with our half baked knowledge.

 

 

 

Enough, these mails are consuming lot of time

 

 

 

 

 

Regards,

 

 

 

Sunil John

[Guest guest]

||Om Datta Guru||

 

 

 

Dear Prafulla,

 

Yes I am aware of it & hence wrote that the real hardcore astrology is

still with the village pundits. A man in bombay uses only Position of

Rahu to determine the marriage year. My friend served him for 3 months

but couldn't get it out but saw him just ask the position of Rahu

without seeing horoscope and predict spectacularly. I was told that Few

famous writers from Maharashtra came to him & asked him to reveal it to

them so that they could write in books, he had a quick reply that it is

better he writes a book why should they write about his technique. I

hope quickly he writes this book.

 

 

 

I asked few scholars if they have heard of this sloka to determine

Marriage year by Rahu, they said such a thing doesn't exist & the pandit

is a fraud. Incidentally the pandit has generations of blood doing

astrology so can't dismiss him in an instant.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

 

 

Sunil John

 

, Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Sunil

>

> The real jyotish knowledge is still quite preserved by good downtown

astrologers. Since, they do not speak english - their knowledge has yet

not appeared in media / forums / books.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of

knowledge, but rather a lack of will.

>

>

> >

> > suniljohn_2002

> > Wed, 30 Aug 2006 08:57:19 -0000

> >

> > Sloka Vs Experience 4/ Ounce of exp more

than 10

> > tens oof theory

> >

> >

> > ||Om Datta Guru||

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear

> >

> >

> >

> > v Ramans Grandfather is quoted here. Grandfather lost his temper

> > and retorted to Raman "Palaniswamy is an upstart. He only knows how

> > to quote slokas but not how to apply them. We have to go by

experience.

> > An ounce of experience is worth ten tons of theory"

> >

> >

> >

> > v I met an astrologer in the north who would keep on quoting

> > slokas for everything. My meeting lasted 10 hrs and was very

impressed

> > with him though I kept on repeating him the danger of reliance on

> > slokas. I had a grave question bothering me, he cast chart and

explained

> > the chart to me beautifully giving wonderful predictions of how I

would

> > get the job that was being discussed & go abroad, live in a

beautiful

> > house, he described the house, the boss, the girl I would meet there

etc

> > etc. I was most impressed by how he taught me how to see the prashna

> > chart and felt equipped with Stinger missles in prashna analysis.

His

> > prediction failed miserably but that's not the question at hand, the

> > question at hand is I asked him interpretation of a word in

Sanskrit, he

> > took 5 seconds (too long) & asked me what is the verse and from

which

> > book, when I quoted he said the interpretation I had was correct but

why

> > need the full verse, what about the Shaddarth that KNR speaks about

,

> > this man couldn't do it. When he took 5 secs for a word I knew he

> > doesn't know sanskrit since if one sits at Patels feet every day one

> > realises what is Sanskrit n what is not.

> >

> > v Then the story of a Guru from WEST to india (not europe nor

> > america) who wanted me to part with my Guru Nadi & Bhrigu Nadi so

that

> > she could translate it into english. I was shocked, I asked her when

did

> > she learn sanskrit, she said 1 yr back, her student was also

insisting

> > me to part with the nadis. I first sent her 5 scanned copy of

Nakshatra

> > Chudamani she couldn't translate it & gave smartish answers like

> > ohhh this is wonderful , rare knowledge, send me all. Today this

Guru

> > professes to be expert in Sanskrit, then how come this Guru was

recently

> > seeking help to in some translation openly

> >

> >

> >

> > Unfortunately internet lists are only about theory theory theory,

> > scholarly debate & no group research to test shlokas statistically.

Most

> > of these lists are "You scratch my back I scratch urs & yours" - a

drama

> > we in astro community are good at (including me) but to be honest we

> > learn zero astrology. The real astrology who knows will never speak

> > about it whereas we only speak and with that knowledge often play

with

> > peoples lives n emotions with our half baked knowledge.

> >

> >

> >

> > Enough, these mails are consuming lot of time

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> >

> >

> > Sunil John

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Sunil,

There are many such techniques in Nadi and one of them is using the transit of Rahu. It does give nice results at times.

regards,

manoj

PS : and nadi-amshas you can find in Dev-Keralam

 

suniljohn_2002 <suniljohn_2002 > wrote:

||Om Datta Guru||

 

Dear Prafulla,

 

Yes I am aware of it & hence wrote that the real hardcore astrology is

still with the village pundits. A man in bombay uses only Position of

Rahu to determine the marriage year. My friend served him for 3 months

but couldn't get it out but saw him just ask the position of Rahu

without seeing horoscope and predict spectacularly. I was told that Few

famous writers from Maharashtra came to him & asked him to reveal it to

them so that they could write in books, he had a quick reply that it is

better he writes a book why should they write about his technique. I

hope quickly he writes this book.

 

I asked few scholars if they have heard of this sloka to determine

Marriage year by Rahu, they said such a thing doesn't exist & the pandit

is a fraud. Incidentally the pandit has generations of blood doing

astrology so can't dismiss him in an instant.

 

Regards,

 

Sunil John

 

, Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Sunil

>

> The real jyotish knowledge is still quite preserved by good downtown

astrologers. Since, they do not speak english - their knowledge has yet

not appeared in media / forums / books.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of

knowledge, but rather a lack of will.

>

>

> >

> > suniljohn_2002

> > Wed, 30 Aug 2006 08:57:19 -0000

> >

> > Sloka Vs Experience 4/ Ounce of exp more

than 10

> > tens oof theory

> >

> >

> > ||Om Datta Guru||

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear

> >

> >

> >

> > v Ramans Grandfather is quoted here. Grandfather lost his temper

> > and retorted to Raman "Palaniswamy is an upstart. He only knows how

> > to quote slokas but not how to apply them. We have to go by

experience.

> > An ounce of experience is worth ten tons of theory"

> >

> >

> >

> > v I met an astrologer in the north who would keep on quoting

> > slokas for everything. My meeting lasted 10 hrs and was very

impressed

> > with him though I kept on repeating him the danger of reliance on

> > slokas. I had a grave question bothering me, he cast chart and

explained

> > the chart to me beautifully giving wonderful predictions of how I

would

> > get the job that was being discussed & go abroad, live in a

beautiful

> > house, he described the house, the boss, the girl I would meet there

etc

> > etc. I was most impressed by how he taught me how to see the prashna

> > chart and felt equipped with Stinger missles in prashna analysis.

His

> > prediction failed miserably but that's not the question at hand, the

> > question at hand is I asked him interpretation of a word in

Sanskrit, he

> > took 5 seconds (too long) & asked me what is the verse and from

which

> > book, when I quoted he said the interpretation I had was correct but

why

> > need the full verse, what about the Shaddarth that KNR speaks about

,

> > this man couldn't do it. When he took 5 secs for a word I knew he

> > doesn't know sanskrit since if one sits at Patels feet every day one

> > realises what is Sanskrit n what is not.

> >

> > v Then the story of a Guru from WEST to india (not europe nor

> > america) who wanted me to part with my Guru Nadi & Bhrigu Nadi so

that

> > she could translate it into english. I was shocked, I asked her when

did

> > she learn sanskrit, she said 1 yr back, her student was also

insisting

> > me to part with the nadis. I first sent her 5 scanned copy of

Nakshatra

> > Chudamani she couldn't translate it & gave smartish answers like

> > ohhh this is wonderful , rare knowledge, send me all. Today this

Guru

> > professes to be expert in Sanskrit, then how come this Guru was

recently

> > seeking help to in some translation openly

> >

> >

> >

> > Unfortunately internet lists are only about theory theory theory,

> > scholarly debate & no group research to test shlokas statistically.

Most

> > of these lists are "You scratch my back I scratch urs & yours" - a

drama

> > we in astro community are good at (including me) but to be honest we

> > learn zero astrology. The real astrology who knows will never speak

> > about it whereas we only speak and with that knowledge often play

with

> > peoples lives n emotions with our half baked knowledge.

> >

> >

> >

> > Enough, these mails are consuming lot of time

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> >

> >

> > Sunil John

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Sunil / Manoj

 

Deva Kerelam uses rahu's transit. While explaining Saturn's transit in D9, for assessing timing of death of grandparents -It is mentioned that same can be inferred through Rahu.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of knowledge, but rather a lack of will.

 

 

>

> suniljohn_2002

> Fri, 01 Sep 2006 09:49:28 -0000

>

> Deva Kerelam/Manoj

>

>

> ||Om Datta Guru||

>

>

>

> Dear Manoj,

>

> Namaste

>

> thanks for this mail. I am not sure if he uses Tr Rahu since the

> impression given to me was different.

>

> Anyways, yes am aware of nadi amshas in Deva Kerelam, are you talking of

> the Deva Kerelam translated by Santhanam or a different version.

>

>

>

>

>

> Regards,

>

>

>

> Sunil John

>

> , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote:

>>

>> Dear Sunil,

>>

>> There are many such techniques in Nadi and one of them is using the

> transit of Rahu. It does give nice results at times.

>>

>> regards,

>>

>> manoj

>>

>> PS : and nadi-amshas you can find in Dev-Keralam

>>

>> suniljohn_2002 suniljohn_2002 wrote:

>>

>> ||Om Datta Guru||

>>

>> Dear Prafulla,

>>

>> Yes I am aware of it & hence wrote that the real hardcore astrology is

>> still with the village pundits. A man in bombay uses only Position of

>> Rahu to determine the marriage year. My friend served him for 3 months

>> but couldn't get it out but saw him just ask the position of Rahu

>> without seeing horoscope and predict spectacularly. I was told that

> Few

>> famous writers from Maharashtra came to him & asked him to reveal it

> to

>> them so that they could write in books, he had a quick reply that it

> is

>> better he writes a book why should they write about his technique. I

>> hope quickly he writes this book.

>>

>> I asked few scholars if they have heard of this sloka to determine

>> Marriage year by Rahu, they said such a thing doesn't exist & the

> pandit

>> is a fraud. Incidentally the pandit has generations of blood doing

>> astrology so can't dismiss him in an instant.

>>

>> Regards,

>>

>> Sunil John

>>

>> , Prafulla Gang jyotish@ wrote:

>>>

>>> Dear Sunil

>>>

>>> The real jyotish knowledge is still quite preserved by good downtown

>> astrologers. Since, they do not speak english - their knowledge has

> yet

>> not appeared in media / forums / books.

>>>

>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>>

>>> The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack

> of

>> knowledge, but rather a lack of will.

>>>

>>>

>>>>

>>>> suniljohn_2002@

>>>> Wed, 30 Aug 2006 08:57:19 -0000

>>>>

>>>> Sloka Vs Experience 4/ Ounce of exp more

>> than 10

>>>> tens oof theory

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> ||Om Datta Guru||

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Dear

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> v Ramans Grandfather is quoted here. Grandfather lost his temper

>>>> and retorted to Raman "Palaniswamy is an upstart. He only knows

> how

>>>> to quote slokas but not how to apply them. We have to go by

>> experience.

>>>> An ounce of experience is worth ten tons of theory"

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> v I met an astrologer in the north who would keep on quoting

>>>> slokas for everything. My meeting lasted 10 hrs and was very

>> impressed

>>>> with him though I kept on repeating him the danger of reliance on

>>>> slokas. I had a grave question bothering me, he cast chart and

>> explained

>>>> the chart to me beautifully giving wonderful predictions of how I

>> would

>>>> get the job that was being discussed & go abroad, live in a

>> beautiful

>>>> house, he described the house, the boss, the girl I would meet

> there

>> etc

>>>> etc. I was most impressed by how he taught me how to see the

> prashna

>>>> chart and felt equipped with Stinger missles in prashna analysis.

>> His

>>>> prediction failed miserably but that's not the question at hand,

> the

>>>> question at hand is I asked him interpretation of a word in

>> Sanskrit, he

>>>> took 5 seconds (too long) & asked me what is the verse and from

>> which

>>>> book, when I quoted he said the interpretation I had was correct

> but

>> why

>>>> need the full verse, what about the Shaddarth that KNR speaks

> about

>> ,

>>>> this man couldn't do it. When he took 5 secs for a word I knew he

>>>> doesn't know sanskrit since if one sits at Patels feet every day

> one

>>>> realises what is Sanskrit n what is not.

>>>>

>>>> v Then the story of a Guru from WEST to india (not europe nor

>>>> america) who wanted me to part with my Guru Nadi & Bhrigu Nadi so

>> that

>>>> she could translate it into english. I was shocked, I asked her

> when

>> did

>>>> she learn sanskrit, she said 1 yr back, her student was also

>> insisting

>>>> me to part with the nadis. I first sent her 5 scanned copy of

>> Nakshatra

>>>> Chudamani she couldn't translate it & gave smartish answers like

>>>> ohhh this is wonderful , rare knowledge, send me all. Today this

>> Guru

>>>> professes to be expert in Sanskrit, then how come this Guru was

>> recently

>>>> seeking help to in some translation openly

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Unfortunately internet lists are only about theory theory theory,

>>>> scholarly debate & no group research to test shlokas

> statistically.

>> Most

>>>> of these lists are "You scratch my back I scratch urs & yours" - a

>> drama

>>>> we in astro community are good at (including me) but to be honest

> we

>>>> learn zero astrology. The real astrology who knows will never

> speak

>>>> about it whereas we only speak and with that knowledge often play

>> with

>>>> peoples lives n emotions with our half baked knowledge.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Enough, these mails are consuming lot of time

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Regards,

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Sunil John

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>