When will weconceive Towards the Real Scientific Astrology Tam Soma Jotirgamaya

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhasker,

I believe only limited number of horoscopes are possible (x factorial).

Even traits and charateristics are also limited and can be measured in numbers.

Behavourial characteristics are limited. But strongly based on the nature and nurture.

Prediction of economic conditions are based on the place, activity and ones ability to manage "mastermind club" around him. Best example is Shri. Narayana Murty(Infosys), a complete self made man. "swayamsiddha".

Biggest question is about your ( I mean people) selection of activities that gives money and secondly selection of life partner.

We can predict about money but life partner is yet to find out. For example , if you born in bangalore and asked from which direction my life parter will come and join me as "Jivan sangini" . You may ask to different astrologers they will show different side.

If you refer our vedas you wil find that "we can choose our future mother from whose womb we want to appear on this earth" this may seem revolutionay thought but I guess somebody will research (not search) on this topic.

Even the use of selected stones for different "Rashi" can be researched in the light of spectrom geology.

Spectography can be used in bringing health wealth and happiness in desperate family members.

Measure of "Cosmic Energy" is yet to find out. It electromagnetic effects on human body is yet to find out.

Even you can find out exact date and time of death.

I guess five thousand years ago the great soul the lord krishna had learned these things and unfortunately we lost in later years.

In my view , present astrology needs "Re-Search" of old, ancient astro-technology.

I request any of you find something new , scientific , will divert to me.

" Tam Soma Jotirgamaya". Let me come out of darkness of ignorance"

Golden Balls

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Dear,

 

I agree in majority to this part.

 

"Todays astrology is not same everywhere. It differs with man and its

interpretation.

>

> We have lost the real science of astorology, therefore I

observed todays vedic astrology is ashes of real scientific astrology

what we had thousands years before. "

 

Astrologers who are experts in predictions using Nakshatra based

systems can provide perfect picture in child birth

related questions in 90% of the cases. I believe You are having few

here on this Forum too who are using this system.

They will be able to come with proper responses,to queries as such.

 

We need more answers as to What,when and how in approaching to

clients answers rather than reading out their personality

characteristics for them or filling pages with the same.

I agree there we may have a dearth of good astrologers.

I meant no offnce to You at all, if You felt then I am extremely

sorry.

 

regards. Bhaskar.

 

vedic astrology, golden ballstick

<goldenballstick wrote:

>

> Dear,

>

> The given example of matchstick is good. But to have larger light

it requires more improved matchstick.

>

> Again idea of mating comes in mind first. Mind is more important

in mating, and of course for feeling mixed with emotions - strong

emotions.... .

>

> See everywhere in human activites " man wins in his mind first

before he wins into outside real world".

>

> It is same with conceiving.

>

> My point is, to make water we require Hydrogen and Oxygen in

certain predetermined quantities and so science is based on

scepticism and experiments. Todays astrology is not same everywhere.

It differs with man and its interpretation.

>

> We have lost the real science of astorology, therefore I

observed todays vedic astrology is ashes of real scientific astrology

what we had thousands years before.

>

> can you tell me how many horoscopes are possible ---give me exact

figure.

>

> Please don`t get me wrong. I am not testing your knowledge but

want to come out with more realistic facts on astrology.

>

> Regards.

>

>

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

> Dear,

>

> Gotra is the source of the group whose descendants one is.

> For eg.Kapils,Lehans,etc.

>

> Astrology has basic principles which remain same always, but when

> they are in hands of various persons then various minds use

> their own knowledge,experience,academic/home study to arrive at

> conclusions and hence the difference.

>

> For ex.Two persons will light a matchstick in the same room, but

one

> guys matchstick immeditaely goes off after his lighting, while the

> others flame stays for a good time. Why ? The room is same, the

> breeze is same, the match stick is same. Because one

> person knows how to hold the matchstick after it lights up in

> a slanting manner to allow the flame to cover a lrager area so that

> it burns longer,while the other person does not know this idea so

he

> has to light few matches before getting his job done.

> Please judge in same way.

>

> Nowadays conceiving starts with mating and not with mind, of course

> to do away with conceiving that you may say starts with the mind.

>

> Any good astrologer can tell you by looking at the 5th cusp when

the

> children are going to be born or whether the couple is capable of

> bearing children or not, whether the man is capable and whether the

> women is capable and the dates too.

> Please do not try to test me now. I am not into all this.

>

> regards,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

> vedic astrology, golden ballstick

> <goldenballstick@> wrote:

> >

> > I Think the entire concept of A True Ancient Vedic Astorology has

> lost or in other words we are playing in the "Ashes of Ancient

Vedic

> Astrology".

> >

> > If you show your horoscope to 10 different so called

> astrologers , they will opine in 10 different ways. Whereas a true

> science remain same everywhere.

> >

> > In case of woman`s conceiving is more misleading and has nothing

> to do with where they born but the roots are in "Gotra".

> >

> > Secondly both the members- husband and wife have to go through

> the right activities towards conceiving. Knowledge of Mentrual

Cycles

> and Conceiving is important- especially for woman who wants to

> conceive.

> >

> > Blend of todays advance medical techniques and astrology can

> help women with healthy reproductive system to conceive provided

> she act on suggested directives.

> >

> > The conveiving concepts starts from Mind and definitely not from

> womb.

> > The thoughts of getting conceiving and believing with deeper

> faith has more to do with pregnency.

> >

> > A Super Blend of True Astrology, Gyenology, Embryology will

> definitely helps to conceive.

> >

> > Warm Regards.

> >

> > GB

> >

> >

> > viswanathanjayalakshmi <viswanathanjayalakshmi@> wrote:

> >

> > irap1981, His birth place is bangalore, karnataka.

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "irap1981" <irap1981@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Ple. Specify birth place of your husband, becoz. Karnatak is

a

> > state

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology

> > > > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of

> > > viswanathanjayalakshmi

> > > > Friday, August 25, 2006 10:01 PM

> > > > vedic astrology

> > > > [vedic astrology] When will I conceive?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hello All,

> > > >

> > > > Please find my query below. The details are

> > > >

> > > > My DOB is 27-OCT-1978, POB: Tirunelveli, TOB: 11.30 AM

> > > > My husband DOB is 18-May-1976, POB: Karnataka, TOB: 7.55 AM

> > > >

> > > > We got married on 10-Sep-2004.

> > > >

> > > > Please analyze of our charts and let us know the period when

we

> > can

> > > > expect our first child? Thanks all.

> > > >

> > > > Regards.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Golden...,

 

I know a certain man who fails only in 10% of his predictions

regarding child births etc.or can say among total of his predictions.,

but of course he is not accessible easily.But then these are

exceptions,generally what You say can be supposed to be right.

 

Traits, characteristics are limited I agree, but the westerners here

are one up on Indians,they can provide a fairly good report on

behavourial characteristics and traits of a person, and a lengthy one

too, which the native will enjoy reading, which will also be true to

a great extent.

 

Selection of business activities is definitely a big question which

only few astrologers can provide the right guidance. Same with

selection of a life partner. These two issues are the ones which

cause the most enquiries to come to a astrologer during his life time.

Unfortunately its very rare for people whose hobbies become their

business activity who are the lucky ones. Most of us may be pushed

(Due to various factors, we need not go into)into doing

something all our life, and by the time we realise that nothing is

coming out of it, we are too late by age to rechange our steps and

path ,due to as I said age, academic ignorance , lack of experience,

in the new line which we wish to pesue. But today times are changing

and so are many new profession changes made by people who are under

the 30+ age category. They have age on their side, many options

on their side, many avenues and platforms to jump into. Probably

not much left for 40+ people like me. Even Abraham Lincoln

got his ambition fulfilled after age of 40 is okay, but he was

persuing the presidency for a pretty long time before that.

 

Directions of going to be spouse , the ways to check are given in

the jyotish scriptures. but like You said 10 astrologers would give

10 directions and no consensus would be there. This is not

due to lack on part of astrology but we can say lack on part of

astrologers. I also have sympathy for them

because to become perfect in each and every department of astrology

is not possible. So many issues marriage,divorce,childbirth,sickness-

which type,cure when, going abroad, buying house, about father,

about mother,business activities,business partners, line of activity

to choose,etc.etc. Its really difficult to gain mastery in all.

Maybe the lucky astrologers who have studied since childhood under a

proper Guru may be able to do all in one.

 

You can choose a mother whose womb You can enter into- has been well

described by 2 souls after 20 years of leaving their body, through

their old mother through automatic writings which was published and

printed in the Form of 5 Volumes for private circulation , and

lucky to have one set. Herein they have said when the time comes for

the soul to enter a womb, he is showed few mothers as per his karmas,

and he can choose one among them to enter.

 

Colour therapy if You mean ,then can be used very effeciently to

modify the colours (Rays of the Planets) in our body, through the use

of prism, and light passed on a blck and white photograph, we know

the deficiency or abundance, or body part which is diseased and

through a rotating wheel the colours can be passed on the photograph

of the native. This is widely known as teletherapy, if that is what

You were talking of.,or diagnosing as Radiasthesia.The Gems have

their own specific gravity and colours of Cosmic rays which are used

in above treatment.The whole cosmos is full of Cosmos rays and

wherever vibrations are produced wavelengths are present. In the

above treatment, the wavelength of a person and the medium is the

same,therefore the wavelength radiated on the Medium affects the

person.

 

 

In a book vedic mathematics published by Bhartiya Vidya Bhuvan , ten

years back, the author has given hundreds of examples, wherein

he has given some method to find out date of death from birth date,

through the stars. But i could not understand that at that point of

time and never opened after that, I dont think I will yet understand

for a few more years. So I did not dare to open it again.

 

Lord Krishna as Hindus we consider as incarnation of God and

therefore supposed to be Master and Knowing of all. Yogi

of Yogis, Yogeshwar.

 

I agree when You say "In my view , present astrology needs "Re-

Search" of old, ancient astro-technology."

 

regards,

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

vedic astrology, golden ballstick

<goldenballstick wrote:

>

> Dear Bhasker,

>

> I believe only limited number of horoscopes are possible (x

factorial).

>

> Even traits and charateristics are also limited and can be

measured in numbers.

>

> Behavourial characteristics are limited. But strongly based on

the nature and nurture.

>

> Prediction of economic conditions are based on the place,

activity and ones ability to manage "mastermind club" around him.

Best example is Shri. Narayana Murty(Infosys), a complete self made

man. "swayamsiddha".

>

> Biggest question is about your ( I mean people) selection of

activities that gives money and secondly selection of life partner.

>

> We can predict about money but life partner is yet to find out.

For example , if you born in bangalore and asked from which direction

my life parter will come and join me as "Jivan sangini" . You may ask

to different astrologers they will show different side.

>

> If you refer our vedas you wil find that "we can choose our

future mother from whose womb we want to appear on this earth" this

may seem revolutionay thought but I guess somebody will research (not

search) on this topic.

>

> Even the use of selected stones for different "Rashi" can be

researched in the light of spectrom geology.

>

> Spectography can be used in bringing health wealth and happiness

in desperate family members.

>

> Measure of "Cosmic Energy" is yet to find out. It electromagnetic

effects on human body is yet to find out.

>

> Even you can find out exact date and time of death.

>

> I guess five thousand years ago the great soul the lord krishna

had learned these things and unfortunately we lost in later years.

>

> In my view , present astrology needs "Re-Search" of old, ancient

astro-technology.

>

> I request any of you find something new , scientific , will

divert to me.

>

> " Tam Soma Jotirgamaya". Let me come out of darkness of ignorance"

>

> Golden Balls

>

>

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

> Dear,

>

> I agree in majority to this part.

>

> "Todays astrology is not same everywhere. It differs with man and

its

> interpretation.

> >

> > We have lost the real science of astorology, therefore I

> observed todays vedic astrology is ashes of real scientific

astrology

> what we had thousands years before. "

>

> Astrologers who are experts in predictions using Nakshatra based

> systems can provide perfect picture in child birth

> related questions in 90% of the cases. I believe You are having few

> here on this Forum too who are using this system.

> They will be able to come with proper responses,to queries as such.

>

> We need more answers as to What,when and how in approaching to

> clients answers rather than reading out their personality

> characteristics for them or filling pages with the same.

> I agree there we may have a dearth of good astrologers.

> I meant no offnce to You at all, if You felt then I am extremely

> sorry.

>

> regards. Bhaskar.

>

> vedic astrology, golden ballstick

> <goldenballstick@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear,

> >

> > The given example of matchstick is good. But to have larger light

> it requires more improved matchstick.

> >

> > Again idea of mating comes in mind first. Mind is more important

> in mating, and of course for feeling mixed with emotions - strong

> emotions.... .

> >

> > See everywhere in human activites " man wins in his mind first

> before he wins into outside real world".

> >

> > It is same with conceiving.

> >

> > My point is, to make water we require Hydrogen and Oxygen in

> certain predetermined quantities and so science is based on

> scepticism and experiments. Todays astrology is not same

everywhere.

> It differs with man and its interpretation.

> >

> > We have lost the real science of astorology, therefore I

> observed todays vedic astrology is ashes of real scientific

astrology

> what we had thousands years before.

> >

> > can you tell me how many horoscopes are possible ---give me exact

> figure.

> >

> > Please don`t get me wrong. I am not testing your knowledge but

> want to come out with more realistic facts on astrology.

> >

> > Regards.

> >

> >

> >

> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > Dear,

> >

> > Gotra is the source of the group whose descendants one is.

> > For eg.Kapils,Lehans,etc.

> >

> > Astrology has basic principles which remain same always, but when

> > they are in hands of various persons then various minds use

> > their own knowledge,experience,academic/home study to arrive at

> > conclusions and hence the difference.

> >

> > For ex.Two persons will light a matchstick in the same room, but

> one

> > guys matchstick immeditaely goes off after his lighting, while

the

> > others flame stays for a good time. Why ? The room is same, the

> > breeze is same, the match stick is same. Because one

> > person knows how to hold the matchstick after it lights up in

> > a slanting manner to allow the flame to cover a lrager area so

that

> > it burns longer,while the other person does not know this idea so

> he

> > has to light few matches before getting his job done.

> > Please judge in same way.

> >

> > Nowadays conceiving starts with mating and not with mind, of

course

> > to do away with conceiving that you may say starts with the mind.

> >

> > Any good astrologer can tell you by looking at the 5th cusp when

> the

> > children are going to be born or whether the couple is capable of

> > bearing children or not, whether the man is capable and whether

the

> > women is capable and the dates too.

> > Please do not try to test me now. I am not into all this.

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > vedic astrology, golden ballstick

> > <goldenballstick@> wrote:

> > >

> > > I Think the entire concept of A True Ancient Vedic Astorology

has

> > lost or in other words we are playing in the "Ashes of Ancient

> Vedic

> > Astrology".

> > >

> > > If you show your horoscope to 10 different so called

> > astrologers , they will opine in 10 different ways. Whereas a

true

> > science remain same everywhere.

> > >

> > > In case of woman`s conceiving is more misleading and has

nothing

> > to do with where they born but the roots are in "Gotra".

> > >

> > > Secondly both the members- husband and wife have to go through

> > the right activities towards conceiving. Knowledge of Mentrual

> Cycles

> > and Conceiving is important- especially for woman who wants to

> > conceive.

> > >

> > > Blend of todays advance medical techniques and astrology can

> > help women with healthy reproductive system to conceive provided

> > she act on suggested directives.

> > >

> > > The conveiving concepts starts from Mind and definitely not

from

> > womb.

> > > The thoughts of getting conceiving and believing with deeper

> > faith has more to do with pregnency.

> > >

> > > A Super Blend of True Astrology, Gyenology, Embryology will

> > definitely helps to conceive.

> > >

> > > Warm Regards.

> > >

> > > GB

> > >

> > >

> > > viswanathanjayalakshmi <viswanathanjayalakshmi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > irap1981, His birth place is bangalore, karnataka.

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "irap1981"

<irap1981@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Ple. Specify birth place of your husband, becoz. Karnatak

is

> a

> > > state

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of

> > > > viswanathanjayalakshmi

> > > > > Friday, August 25, 2006 10:01 PM

> > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > [vedic astrology] When will I conceive?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello All,

> > > > >

> > > > > Please find my query below. The details are

> > > > >

> > > > > My DOB is 27-OCT-1978, POB: Tirunelveli, TOB: 11.30 AM

> > > > > My husband DOB is 18-May-1976, POB: Karnataka, TOB: 7.55 AM

> > > > >

> > > > > We got married on 10-Sep-2004.

> > > > >

> > > > > Please analyze of our charts and let us know the period

when

> we

> > > can

> > > > > expect our first child? Thanks all.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >