Guest guest Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 ||Om Datta Guru|| Dear Chandrashekharji, I think Sanjay has so far not given out all his knowledge in ONE BOOK, so I might not buy ur statement. Pls read the article of Visti which you must have already read if not, the article is edited by Sanjay Rath and there Shakti yoga is mentioned. I am sure if u have not read then there are many on this list who are Sohamsa members & students of Visti so they must have read. Why they prefer to keep quiet is their conscience or they have valid reasons. But if u want here is the site www.srigaruda.com <http://www.srigaruda.com> If u do not accept Visti's or SRs statements, its fine since I know there are many astrologers who feel Sanjay is not teaching the correct Jaimini, for me Sanjay Rath is a good friend & whenever possible I test his principles as time permits and take what works - that is honest astrology, if something doesn't work I prefer to write to him and tell him directly or seek clarification. On another note, I am looking for calculation of Vakra Bala (Jhora doesn't give it) & all the different methods of calculating Istha Phala on an urgent basis if u can write privately or here it would be nice. I might be travelling tom for 2-3 days and will check mail at cyber cafe or in case u reply immediately then first thing tom morning I shall check. Regards, Sunil John , Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 wrote: > > Dear Sunil, > I wrote what is written by Sanjay in his Upadesha sutra. Sanjay is Guru > of Visti and it is strange that he does not know that the name Shakti > yoga comes from secret Parampara and does not mention this fact in his book. > Chandrashekhar. > > suniljohn_2002 wrote: > > > > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > > > Dear Chandrashekharji > > > > The article does say that the word Shakti Yoga is their Parampara > > knowledge. I thought u must have read it yrs back, but for new comers i > > posted the web link of dear Visti. > > > > Anyways when we meet him(SR) next we can pursue the sutra. > > > > Regards, > > > > Sunil John > > > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > chandrashekhar46@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > > > Since you only repeated only what is written in Visti's article on > > > shakti yoga. I do not need to comment on it here. > > > > > > Bu the way, Sanjay has interpreted the sutra as If these (Moon and > > > Rahu) conjoin/aspect 5th or the 9th house from the lagna, AK, the > > native > > > assumes the nature of the destroyer of all creation. There is no > > > reference to this being called Shakti yoga, neither is there any > > > reference to Rahu and Moon aspecting each other in 3rd and 9th ( in > > the > > > sutras). Actually as Sanjay indicates that sutras from 53 to 56 are > > > contiguous, it is interesting that sutra 53 refers to sorrow, in > > > general, experienced by the native and not that given to others. > > > Actually I think the sutra refers to sorrow on account of or to > > native's > > > Mother. > > > > > > Even Sanjay has interpreted "Matari" in sutra 4.1.49 as mother but has > > > chosen to interpret the same word as 5th house in sutra 4.1.52. The > > > interpretation of "Matari" as Mother appears appropriate, to me, as > > rahu > > > and Moon affliction indicating sorrow on account of mother or to > > mother > > > appears to fit in with principles of astrology as propounded by the > > > venerated sage Parashara. > > > > > > But then Sanjay is a knowledgeable astrologer and must have his own > > > reasons to interpret the same word in different manner in successive > > > sutras in his commentary on Upadesha Sutra. You may like to ask him > > > about this if you meet him. I shall also ask him should we meet. > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > suniljohn_2002 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekharji, > > > > > > > > Hitlers Chart > > > > > > > > U wrote: > > > > > > > > In Hitler's chart Rahu afflicts Gemini in 9th bhava. So tying Moon > > > > Jupiter and Ketu in Sagittarius to his racist feelings may not be > > > > amenable to reason. Actually the streak of a bit of madness, if I > > may > > > > call it that, in Hitler would be attributed to Moon Ketu combination > > and > > > > the egoistic nature to Mars/Sun occupying Aries and aspecting the > > Lagna. > > > > > > > > [sunil Reply] > > > > > > > > I just posted what was learnt from Vistis article on Shakti Yoga, > > which > > > > can be downloaded from www.srigaruda.com (u know his site but this > > is > > > > for others) > > > > > > > > 1) Pg 7 says on Adolf hitler -- Rahu is aspected by the Moon in > > > > Sagi, forming Sakti Yoga . AS jup is aspt by Rahu it caused the end > > of > > > > many lives (Jup being Jiva --life) > > > > > > > > 2) I hate quoting shlokas but here it is Jaimini Upadesha Sutra > > > > 4.1.52-54 > > > > > > > > "Should Moon and Rahu join or aspect each other in the 5th house (or > > > > trines to it from either lagna or AK) the native will assume the > > nature > > > > of the destroyer of creation > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Sunil John > > > > > > > > P.S: From last few days i have been forgetting to post a basic mail > > on > > > > Sagi rasi but been busy with so many mails on this list > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 Dear Sunil, I can only talk about the interpretation of the sutra by Sanjay and not anything else. This is so as we are talking about Jaimini and the yoga is related to that sutra as per Sanjay's comments later on in the book. Chandrashekhar. suniljohn_2002 wrote: > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > Dear Chandrashekharji, > > I think Sanjay has so far not given out all his knowledge in ONE BOOK, > so I might not buy ur statement. Pls read the article of Visti which you > must have already read if not, the article is edited by Sanjay Rath and > there Shakti yoga is mentioned. I am sure if u have not read then there > are many on this list who are Sohamsa members & students of Visti so > they must have read. Why they prefer to keep quiet is their conscience > or they have valid reasons. But if u want here is the site > > www.srigaruda.com <http://www.srigaruda.com <http://www.srigaruda.com>> > > If u do not accept Visti's or SRs statements, its fine since I know > there are many astrologers who feel Sanjay is not teaching the correct > Jaimini, for me Sanjay Rath is a good friend & whenever possible I test > his principles as time permits and take what works - that is honest > astrology, if something doesn't work I prefer to write to him and tell > him directly or seek clarification. > > On another note, I am looking for calculation of Vakra Bala (Jhora > doesn't give it) & all the different methods of calculating Istha Phala > on an urgent basis if u can write privately or here it would be nice. I > might be travelling tom for 2-3 days and will check mail at cyber cafe > or in case u reply immediately then first thing tom morning I shall > check. > > Regards, > > Sunil John > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > <chandrashekhar46 wrote: > > > > Dear Sunil, > > I wrote what is written by Sanjay in his Upadesha sutra. Sanjay is > Guru > > of Visti and it is strange that he does not know that the name Shakti > > yoga comes from secret Parampara and does not mention this fact in his > book. > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > suniljohn_2002 wrote: > > > > > > > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekharji > > > > > > The article does say that the word Shakti Yoga is their Parampara > > > knowledge. I thought u must have read it yrs back, but for new > comers i > > > posted the web link of dear Visti. > > > > > > Anyways when we meet him(SR) next we can pursue the sutra. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Sunil John > > > > > > > <%40> > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > chandrashekhar46@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > > > > > Since you only repeated only what is written in Visti's article on > > > > shakti yoga. I do not need to comment on it here. > > > > > > > > Bu the way, Sanjay has interpreted the sutra as If these (Moon and > > > > Rahu) conjoin/aspect 5th or the 9th house from the lagna, AK, the > > > native > > > > assumes the nature of the destroyer of all creation. There is no > > > > reference to this being called Shakti yoga, neither is there any > > > > reference to Rahu and Moon aspecting each other in 3rd and 9th ( > in > > > the > > > > sutras). Actually as Sanjay indicates that sutras from 53 to 56 > are > > > > contiguous, it is interesting that sutra 53 refers to sorrow, in > > > > general, experienced by the native and not that given to others. > > > > Actually I think the sutra refers to sorrow on account of or to > > > native's > > > > Mother. > > > > > > > > Even Sanjay has interpreted "Matari" in sutra 4.1.49 as mother but > has > > > > chosen to interpret the same word as 5th house in sutra 4.1.52. > The > > > > interpretation of "Matari" as Mother appears appropriate, to me, > as > > > rahu > > > > and Moon affliction indicating sorrow on account of mother or to > > > mother > > > > appears to fit in with principles of astrology as propounded by > the > > > > venerated sage Parashara. > > > > > > > > But then Sanjay is a knowledgeable astrologer and must have his > own > > > > reasons to interpret the same word in different manner in > successive > > > > sutras in his commentary on Upadesha Sutra. You may like to ask > him > > > > about this if you meet him. I shall also ask him should we meet. > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > suniljohn_2002 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Om Datta Guru|| > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekharji, > > > > > > > > > > Hitlers Chart > > > > > > > > > > U wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In Hitler's chart Rahu afflicts Gemini in 9th bhava. So tying > Moon > > > > > Jupiter and Ketu in Sagittarius to his racist feelings may not > be > > > > > amenable to reason. Actually the streak of a bit of madness, if > I > > > may > > > > > call it that, in Hitler would be attributed to Moon Ketu > combination > > > and > > > > > the egoistic nature to Mars/Sun occupying Aries and aspecting > the > > > Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > [sunil Reply] > > > > > > > > > > I just posted what was learnt from Vistis article on Shakti > Yoga, > > > which > > > > > can be downloaded from www.srigaruda.com (u know his site but > this > > > is > > > > > for others) > > > > > > > > > > 1) Pg 7 says on Adolf hitler -- Rahu is aspected by the Moon in > > > > > Sagi, forming Sakti Yoga . AS jup is aspt by Rahu it caused the > end > > > of > > > > > many lives (Jup being Jiva --life) > > > > > > > > > > 2) I hate quoting shlokas but here it is Jaimini Upadesha Sutra > > > > > 4.1.52-54 > > > > > > > > > > "Should Moon and Rahu join or aspect each other in the 5th house > (or > > > > > trines to it from either lagna or AK) the native will assume the > > > nature > > > > > of the destroyer of creation > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Sunil John > > > > > > > > > > P.S: From last few days i have been forgetting to post a basic > mail > > > on > > > > > Sagi rasi but been busy with so many mails on this list > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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