Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Dear Learned Members and Friends , This is to inform You all that I have been unceremoniuosly debarred from the Vedic Astrology Group today, and without any intimation, notice or chance to explain. Last evening I was advised by a good member and supporter, who told me that since the member and moderator/owner in question are known to each other since 15 years You will not have a chance to stay here. and that has what happened . I congratulate Shri Prafullaji on his articulate way of pushing me out of there. Also I have already given Public Apology to him on that Forum which was not my liability but a chance taken and used to clear all misgivings between us. But unfortunately it was taken as a weak step. I would request You allto go through the first few mails copied belowwhich will clearly show that I was not the one who was interested in communication but was forced to. I knew from the first instance that I am being taken for a ride when he first entered my thread with Goldenballs., but could not get myself out of it. Anway I wanted to ask you that if he has had problems with me here and had to give Public apology to me, then how come he wanted to learn from me as a student and gain knowledge ,and why would he be interested in discussing with me technically ? This clearly shows his mal intentions at time of entering my thread. I have given only first few copy of mails ,for you to please check and see yourself that I have tried to get out of this situation, but was forced into it, for what ,I think you understand very well. Dear well wishers of JR, I have been too polite with him at times which has been taken as some sort of weakness on my part . If he wishes I am ready to fight till the last. He is mistaken if he thinks that he is dealing with a paper tiger. I have nothing to loose as I am always with righteousness. Now many mails will foloow and I will not be a silent spectator for any wroing I have not done. My first mail to Golden balls and not to Mr. Prafulla. > > bhaskar_jyotish > > Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:10:37 -0000 > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] Re: Involuntary, Voluntary Decisions on > > Abortions ? > > > > Dear Golden..., > > > > I have started gradually to like your views and second them. > > > > 1) Ordinary souls like us may not know when a special soul is > > repeatedly trying to enter a womb or has already entered or is going > > to enter in future.Only elevated personalties can foresee that. > > In case of Lord Krishna it was already foretold by Narada Muni when > > and to whom LordKrishna is going to be born. > > In case of Infant Jesus too the elavated souls of that time knew > > due to the positions of the stars inthe sky at that time and also due > > to their being spiritually advanced,that The Son of God is going to > > arrive at a particular direction and a particular place.(By the way > > Christianity did support astrology exceptin last few centuries due > > to Medieval uphevals astrology was proclamied to be the work of Satan > > and witchcraft etc. and among this community it was the practised > > behind closed doors and still majority do not believe unfortunately) > > > > 2)Hatya in womb is definitely considered as sin according to Hindu > > cultures and almost all cultures who are still left religious. > > > > 3)You are right voluntarily no sane mother would consent to abortion > > unless the reasons you mentioned or others force her to abort. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > Mr.Prafulla now enters the picture here. vedic astrology, Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > If you have experienced such charts - may you please share your experience / "astro" reasons for such "sins" in any native's chart. I will appreciate, if you may share with some charts or references. It will help students like me to learn. ( please tell me JR Readers what he is asking here how can one judge ?) > Also, these "jyotish" reasons from father's perspective, mother's perspective and from unmarried mother's perspective. > > I look forward to learn from your experience. > > regards / Prafulla Gang My reply to Him Kind Sir in this mail I have not mentioned about any chart or sins to be seen from any such natives chart,neither any perspective from any maternal or paternal source.,nor about astro reasoning. I know You to be a knowledgable person Yourself and folding hands before You, believe that it can be the other way round, that I can learn from You anytime. You may please consider me a student. regards/Bhaskar. His reply to the above mail. Sir I thought it is astro forum !! Is not it? That is why, I requested for astro factors. The best part of vedic astrology forum is that, it is very well moderated and focused on astro discussions. Since, you seem to be quite experienced- I requested you to share your experience / knowledge. I was not aware that, you do not have any astro data on it. regards / Prafulla Gang My reply to him which started all the trouble. Sir, Astro data required on what ? a) On Narad Muni being able to foretell previously about Lord Krishnas birth ? b) about Jesus Christ coming as saviour ? c) Hatya in womb consideredas sin according to Hindu cultures ? d) No mother would consent voluntarily to abortion ? Data is required on above ? I dont understand. Your questions in your last mail asking for Data do not seem to be connected with the mail with which your mail was attached. Another thing, we have no liability whatsover binding on us to provide data required by anyone on his request. Also by not providing any Data it cannot be construed that the poster does not have astro-data. It may also be there that he does not want to enter into unnecessary arguments as I have hinted in my other mail to a gentleman. It may also be there that my time I would like to spending making predictions rather than pointless discussions leading to nowhere,creating rifts or making persons loose friendships, You know better. Last full week I have not entered into any arguments, on Jyotish remedies Forum , and the results can be seen in the number of predictions made to the querists. Again, please be aware that I am always open to Data providing wherever possible, and when situation demands and if cause is educational and also if it comes as a request. Any hitting at any person enveloped in form as request is well understood by people over here. I once again fold hands and request You to please treat me as your student and teach me all You can in astrology, for me to progress and not in any manner be any cause for my degress. regards, Bhaskar. 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Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Hello again Mr.Bhaskar Didn't you announce a few days ago that you had decided (once again!) to stop posting on these forums? Regards, Maniv , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Learned Members and Friends , > > This is to inform You all that I have been unceremoniuosly debarred > from the Vedic Astrology Group today, > and without any intimation, notice or chance to explain. > > Last evening I was advised by a good member and supporter, who told > me that since the member and > moderator/owner in question are known to each other since 15 years > You will not have a chance to stay here. > and that has what happened . > > I congratulate Shri Prafullaji on his articulate way of pushing me > out of there. > Also I have already given Public Apology to him on that Forum which > was not my liability > but a chance taken and used to clear all misgivings between us. > But unfortunately it was taken as a weak step. > > I would request You allto go through the first few mails copied > belowwhich will clearly show that > I was not the one who was interested in communication but was forced > to. > > I knew from the first instance that I am being taken for a ride when > he first entered my > thread with Goldenballs., but could not get myself out of it. > > Anway I wanted to ask you that if he has had problems with me here > and had to give Public apology > to me, then how come he wanted to learn from me as a student and gain > knowledge ,and why would he be interested in discussing with me > technically ? > > This clearly shows his mal intentions at time of entering my thread. > > I have given only first few copy of mails ,for you to please check > and see yourself that I have tried to get out of this situation, but > was forced into it, for what ,I think you understand very well. > > Dear well wishers of JR, I have been too polite with him at times > which has been taken as some sort of > weakness on my part . If he wishes I am ready to fight till the last. > He is mistaken if he thinks that he is dealing > with a paper tiger. I have nothing to loose as I am always with > righteousness. Now many mails will foloow > and I will not be a silent spectator for any wroing I have not done. > > > My first mail to Golden balls and not to Mr. Prafulla. > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:10:37 -0000 > > > vedic astrology > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Involuntary, Voluntary Decisions on > > > Abortions ? > > > > > > Dear Golden..., > > > > > > I have started gradually to like your views and second them. > > > > > > 1) Ordinary souls like us may not know when a special soul is > > > repeatedly trying to enter a womb or has already entered or is > going > > > to enter in future.Only elevated personalties can foresee that. > > > In case of Lord Krishna it was already foretold by Narada Muni > when > > > and to whom LordKrishna is going to be born. > > > In case of Infant Jesus too the elavated souls of that time knew > > > due to the positions of the stars inthe sky at that time and also > due > > > to their being spiritually advanced,that The Son of God is going > to > > > arrive at a particular direction and a particular place.(By the > way > > > Christianity did support astrology exceptin last few centuries due > > > to Medieval uphevals astrology was proclamied to be the work of > Satan > > > and witchcraft etc. and among this community it was the practised > > > behind closed doors and still majority do not believe > unfortunately) > > > > > > 2)Hatya in womb is definitely considered as sin according to Hindu > > > cultures and almost all cultures who are still left religious. > > > > > > 3)You are right voluntarily no sane mother would consent to > abortion > > > unless the reasons you mentioned or others force her to abort. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > Mr.Prafulla now enters the picture here. > > vedic astrology, Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > If you have experienced such charts - may you please share your > experience / "astro" reasons for such "sins" in any native's chart. I > will appreciate, if you may share with some charts or references. It > will help students like me to learn. > ( please tell me JR Readers what he is asking here how can one > judge ?) > > Also, these "jyotish" reasons from father's perspective, mother's > perspective and from unmarried mother's perspective. > > > > I look forward to learn from your experience. > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > My reply to Him > > Kind Sir in this mail I have not mentioned about any chart or sins > to be seen from any such natives chart,neither any perspective from > any maternal or paternal source.,nor about astro reasoning. > I know You to be a knowledgable person Yourself and folding hands > before You, believe that it can be the other way round, that I can > learn from You anytime. You may please consider me a student. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > His reply to the above mail. > > Sir > > I thought it is astro forum !! Is not it? That is why, I requested > for astro > factors. > > The best part of vedic astrology forum is that, it is very well > moderated and > focused on astro discussions. Since, you seem to be quite experienced- > I > requested you to share your experience / knowledge. I was not aware > that, you do > not have any astro data on it. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > My reply to him which started all the trouble. > > Sir, > > Astro data required on what ? > > a) On Narad Muni being able to foretell previously about Lord > Krishnas birth ? > b) about Jesus Christ coming as saviour ? > c) Hatya in womb consideredas sin according to Hindu cultures ? > d) No mother would consent voluntarily to abortion ? > > Data is required on above ? > I dont understand. Your questions in your last mail asking for Data > do not seem to be connected with the mail with which your mail was > attached. > > Another thing, we have no liability whatsover binding on us to > provide data required by anyone on his request. > Also by not providing any Data it cannot be construed that the poster > does not have astro-data. > It may also be there that he does not want to enter into unnecessary > arguments as I have hinted in my other mail to a gentleman. > It may also be there that my time I would like to spending > making predictions rather than pointless discussions leading to > nowhere,creating rifts or making persons loose friendships, > You know better. > Last full week I have not entered into any arguments, on > Jyotish remedies Forum , and the results can be seen in the number of > predictions made to the querists. > > Again, please be aware that I am always open to Data providing > wherever possible, and when situation demands and if cause is > educational and also if it comes as a request. > Any hitting at any person enveloped in form as request is well > understood by people over here. > > I once again fold hands and request You to please treat me as your > student and teach me all You can in astrology, for me to progress and > not in any manner be any cause for my degress. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 Maniv, Yes I am true to my words, I have stopped writing on all the Forums, since the day I mentioned that. Yesterday one Notice was given to all of You so that few like you may get the required happiness, about my ouster from VA, and the other mail given to Mr.Ganeshji was by mistake posted on the Forum instead of going directly.,to him. I have not written to a single native here asking for help,dont worry, I leave all business for You and will not give free service, I will not make any losses to your or your lot, rest assure. Do not provoke me into writing anything further. Whenever that is done, I will strike back,I am not away, just behind the screen. Bhaskar. , "maniv1321" <maniv1321 wrote: > > Hello again Mr.Bhaskar > > Didn't you announce a few days ago that you had decided (once > again!) to stop posting on these forums? > > Regards, > > Maniv > > , "Bhaskar" > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Dear Learned Members and Friends , > > > > This is to inform You all that I have been unceremoniuosly > debarred > > from the Vedic Astrology Group today, > > and without any intimation, notice or chance to explain. > > > > Last evening I was advised by a good member and supporter, who > told > > me that since the member and > > moderator/owner in question are known to each other since 15 years > > You will not have a chance to stay here. > > and that has what happened . > > > > I congratulate Shri Prafullaji on his articulate way of pushing me > > out of there. > > Also I have already given Public Apology to him on that Forum > which > > was not my liability > > but a chance taken and used to clear all misgivings between us. > > But unfortunately it was taken as a weak step. > > > > I would request You allto go through the first few mails copied > > belowwhich will clearly show that > > I was not the one who was interested in communication but was > forced > > to. > > > > I knew from the first instance that I am being taken for a ride > when > > he first entered my > > thread with Goldenballs., but could not get myself out of it. > > > > Anway I wanted to ask you that if he has had problems with me here > > and had to give Public apology > > to me, then how come he wanted to learn from me as a student and > gain > > knowledge ,and why would he be interested in discussing with me > > technically ? > > > > This clearly shows his mal intentions at time of entering my > thread. > > > > I have given only first few copy of mails ,for you to please check > > and see yourself that I have tried to get out of this situation, > but > > was forced into it, for what ,I think you understand very well. > > > > Dear well wishers of JR, I have been too polite with him at times > > which has been taken as some sort of > > weakness on my part . If he wishes I am ready to fight till the > last. > > He is mistaken if he thinks that he is dealing > > with a paper tiger. I have nothing to loose as I am always with > > righteousness. Now many mails will foloow > > and I will not be a silent spectator for any wroing I have not > done. > > > > > > My first mail to Golden balls and not to Mr. Prafulla. > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:10:37 -0000 > > > > vedic astrology > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Involuntary, Voluntary > Decisions on > > > > Abortions ? > > > > > > > > Dear Golden..., > > > > > > > > I have started gradually to like your views and second them. > > > > > > > > 1) Ordinary souls like us may not know when a special soul is > > > > repeatedly trying to enter a womb or has already entered or is > > going > > > > to enter in future.Only elevated personalties can foresee that. > > > > In case of Lord Krishna it was already foretold by Narada Muni > > when > > > > and to whom LordKrishna is going to be born. > > > > In case of Infant Jesus too the elavated souls of that time > knew > > > > due to the positions of the stars inthe sky at that time and > also > > due > > > > to their being spiritually advanced,that The Son of God is > going > > to > > > > arrive at a particular direction and a particular place.(By the > > way > > > > Christianity did support astrology exceptin last few centuries > due > > > > to Medieval uphevals astrology was proclamied to be the work of > > Satan > > > > and witchcraft etc. and among this community it was the > practised > > > > behind closed doors and still majority do not believe > > unfortunately) > > > > > > > > 2)Hatya in womb is definitely considered as sin according to > Hindu > > > > cultures and almost all cultures who are still left religious. > > > > > > > > 3)You are right voluntarily no sane mother would consent to > > abortion > > > > unless the reasons you mentioned or others force her to abort. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > Mr.Prafulla now enters the picture here. > > > > vedic astrology, Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > If you have experienced such charts - may you please share your > > experience / "astro" reasons for such "sins" in any native's > chart. I > > will appreciate, if you may share with some charts or references. > It > > will help students like me to learn. > > ( please tell me JR Readers what he is asking here how can one > > judge ?) > > > Also, these "jyotish" reasons from father's perspective, mother's > > perspective and from unmarried mother's perspective. > > > > > > I look forward to learn from your experience. > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > My reply to Him > > > > Kind Sir in this mail I have not mentioned about any chart or sins > > to be seen from any such natives chart,neither any perspective from > > any maternal or paternal source.,nor about astro reasoning. > > I know You to be a knowledgable person Yourself and folding hands > > before You, believe that it can be the other way round, that I can > > learn from You anytime. You may please consider me a student. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > His reply to the above mail. > > > > Sir > > > > I thought it is astro forum !! Is not it? That is why, I requested > > for astro > > factors. > > > > The best part of vedic astrology forum is that, it is very well > > moderated and > > focused on astro discussions. Since, you seem to be quite > experienced- > > I > > requested you to share your experience / knowledge. I was not > aware > > that, you do > > not have any astro data on it. > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > My reply to him which started all the trouble. > > > > Sir, > > > > Astro data required on what ? > > > > a) On Narad Muni being able to foretell previously about Lord > > Krishnas birth ? > > b) about Jesus Christ coming as saviour ? > > c) Hatya in womb consideredas sin according to Hindu cultures ? > > d) No mother would consent voluntarily to abortion ? > > > > Data is required on above ? > > I dont understand. Your questions in your last mail asking for Data > > do not seem to be connected with the mail with which your mail was > > attached. > > > > Another thing, we have no liability whatsover binding on us to > > provide data required by anyone on his request. > > Also by not providing any Data it cannot be construed that the > poster > > does not have astro-data. > > It may also be there that he does not want to enter into > unnecessary > > arguments as I have hinted in my other mail to a gentleman. > > It may also be there that my time I would like to spending > > making predictions rather than pointless discussions leading to > > nowhere,creating rifts or making persons loose friendships, > > You know better. > > Last full week I have not entered into any arguments, on > > Jyotish remedies Forum , and the results can be seen in the number > of > > predictions made to the querists. > > > > Again, please be aware that I am always open to Data providing > > wherever possible, and when situation demands and if cause is > > educational and also if it comes as a request. > > Any hitting at any person enveloped in form as request is well > > understood by people over here. > > > > I once again fold hands and request You to please treat me as your > > student and teach me all You can in astrology, for me to progress > and > > not in any manner be any cause for my degress. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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