THE TRUTH -----NOT FAIR TO OVER DO IT 2/9

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Shri Prashant Sahab,

 

Namste,

 

Sir when You are not gulty then why are you hurt ?

My mail was not intended for you or any of the good astrologers

working over here.It was certainly meant for the other lot.

Have I not been doing some little service here and do I not know that

there is no money here for grabbing ?

Sir instead of taking me on, why not take those who have incited me

unnecessarily in ouster from VA, or this Maniv who we dont know,

who unnecessarily used sarcasm on me ? Why not a word to him ?

Sir please stand by right ideals, and judgemental one should be

without any bias towards any one.

When You say that here money is not there then why were my 3 replies

to natives on Jyotish Shastra (One to a lady who was not having

children for 11 years-Baby Hansiini) were moderated and not allowed

to be posted ?

I believe You are the moderator there.

I am not pointing fingers, but certainly we cannot deny that potential

is definitely there for astrologers to earn if they know the right

business tactics.

 

If money is not there why are being people invited to other Forums /

Why are websites given to them or people asked to write on their

private e mail ids ?

Sir I can prove all this, but am not here to change the world,

so I keep quiet.

You are siding Maniv and showing sympathy for him, but did you ask

him why he had to write such stuff about me ?

He said that " once again " You have said that You will stop writing.

which means that I have said before but started writing again.

Sir so what great crime has been done on my part ?

Even Lord NarSimhadeva was pacified by Bhakta Prahladafter

Hiranykashyapu

was killed by Him. So what to speak of us ordinary mortals, if few

good friends come, do some praising, make requests to come back, dont

we change our mind and once again become normal ?

I am member at at least 22 Jyotish Forums here out of total 250, but

surely not writing on any one since last two days.

 

Please Sir I request You not to make a punching bag of someone at

times also be a proper judge and then decide the punishment.

 

affectionately,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

>

> Bhaskar,

>

> this is sad that it is being said a few times once u said this to

arjun-ji [later t chellappa did to arjun ji] and Siam paccific Kumar

also said this in ur Re welcome thread that people r jealous of

their income being reduced if anyone else comes and that is absurd

>

> Ashutosh ji has clearly said this apart from me on this that few

really pay, I hope someone will really come up and say there is

chance to make money here NO WAY of the 6k members here 5-9 astros

max 5 avg write and u were also there in 2 months I am here from 7

months surely can tell there is no money to me made here if that is

the objective surely people will be disappointed sure.

>

> I came here when a friend said there is a group where

discussions are thee saw the trend for a few days and a few good

students and some senior exchange good threads and felt I can put

some of my 26 yr experience also to some use if it helps their

learning curve we did not have these and sheer glory of the subject

keeps me here no other consideration. a lamp can light many lams

without loosing its glow but gives more light tot the room, this

mus be and surely is the mood here. NOT MONEY surely if any one has

made money let Bhakar know privately at least how much can be made.

>

> AND WHAT SPEAKS FOR US IS WHAT WE SHARE, GIVE HERE, anything that

comes ur way say recognition, name, fame at times so odd paid

reading some have surely you cant survive on this if it is a plan

for anyone.

>

> I posted a mail on 26th about what i made here also it stands.

>

> Maniv i am sure isa reader here max not seen him post replies so

what way willl his income be lost....? so take time u need not reply

to any such thread but work on charts it wil take u where u want to.

>

> PLEASE RESPECT THE SUBJECT AND THE PEOPLE BEHIND IT, anything

that you do say to hurt other astros will also hurt you if u remain

in the astro field as WHAT GOES AROUND COMES COMES AROUND....!

>

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote: Maniv,

>

> Yes I am true to my words, I have stopped writing on all the

Forums,

> since the day I mentioned that. Yesterday one Notice was given

> to all of You so that few like you may get the required happiness,

> about my ouster from VA, and the other mail given to Mr.Ganeshji

was

> by mistake posted on the Forum instead of going directly.,to him.

>

> I have not written to a single native here asking for help,dont

worry,

> I leave all business for You and will not give free service, I

will

> not make any losses to your or your lot, rest assure.

>

> Do not provoke me into writing anything further.

> Whenever that is done, I will strike back,I am not away,

> just behind the screen.

>

> Bhaskar.

>

> , "maniv1321" <maniv1321@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hello again Mr.Bhaskar

> >

> > Didn't you announce a few days ago that you had decided (once

> > again!) to stop posting on these forums?

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Maniv

> >

> > , "Bhaskar"

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Learned Members and Friends ,

> > >

> > > This is to inform You all that I have been unceremoniuosly

> > debarred

> > > from the Vedic Astrology Group today,

> > > and without any intimation, notice or chance to explain.

> > >

> > > Last evening I was advised by a good member and supporter,

who

> > told

> > > me that since the member and

> > > moderator/owner in question are known to each other since 15

> years

> > > You will not have a chance to stay here.

> > > and that has what happened .

> > >

> > > I congratulate Shri Prafullaji on his articulate way of

pushing

> me

> > > out of there.

> > > Also I have already given Public Apology to him on that Forum

> > which

> > > was not my liability

> > > but a chance taken and used to clear all misgivings between

us.

> > > But unfortunately it was taken as a weak step.

> > >

> > > I would request You allto go through the first few mails

copied

> > > belowwhich will clearly show that

> > > I was not the one who was interested in communication but was

> > forced

> > > to.

> > >

> > > I knew from the first instance that I am being taken for a

ride

> > when

> > > he first entered my

> > > thread with Goldenballs., but could not get myself out of it.

> > >

> > > Anway I wanted to ask you that if he has had problems with me

> here

> > > and had to give Public apology

> > > to me, then how come he wanted to learn from me as a student

and

> > gain

> > > knowledge ,and why would he be interested in discussing with

me

> > > technically ?

> > >

> > > This clearly shows his mal intentions at time of entering my

> > thread.

> > >

> > > I have given only first few copy of mails ,for you to please

> check

> > > and see yourself that I have tried to get out of this

situation,

> > but

> > > was forced into it, for what ,I think you understand very

well.

> > >

> > > Dear well wishers of JR, I have been too polite with him at

times

> > > which has been taken as some sort of

> > > weakness on my part . If he wishes I am ready to fight till

the

> > last.

> > > He is mistaken if he thinks that he is dealing

> > > with a paper tiger. I have nothing to loose as I am always

with

> > > righteousness. Now many mails will foloow

> > > and I will not be a silent spectator for any wroing I have

not

> > done.

> > >

> > >

> > > My first mail to Golden balls and not to Mr. Prafulla.

> > >

> > >

> > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:10:37 -0000

> > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Involuntary, Voluntary

> > Decisions on

> > > > > Abortions ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Golden...,

> > > > >

> > > > > I have started gradually to like your views and second

them.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) Ordinary souls like us may not know when a special

soul is

> > > > > repeatedly trying to enter a womb or has already entered

or is

> > > going

> > > > > to enter in future.Only elevated personalties can foresee

> that.

> > > > > In case of Lord Krishna it was already foretold by Narada

Muni

> > > when

> > > > > and to whom LordKrishna is going to be born.

> > > > > In case of Infant Jesus too the elavated souls of that

time

> > knew

> > > > > due to the positions of the stars inthe sky at that time

and

> > also

> > > due

> > > > > to their being spiritually advanced,that The Son of God

is

> > going

> > > to

> > > > > arrive at a particular direction and a particular place.

(By

> the

> > > way

> > > > > Christianity did support astrology exceptin last few

> centuries

> > due

> > > > > to Medieval uphevals astrology was proclamied to be the

work

> of

> > > Satan

> > > > > and witchcraft etc. and among this community it was the

> > practised

> > > > > behind closed doors and still majority do not believe

> > > unfortunately)

> > > > >

> > > > > 2)Hatya in womb is definitely considered as sin according

to

> > Hindu

> > > > > cultures and almost all cultures who are still left

religious.

> > > > >

> > > > > 3)You are right voluntarily no sane mother would consent

to

> > > abortion

> > > > > unless the reasons you mentioned or others force her to

abort.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > >

> > > Mr.Prafulla now enters the picture here.

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, Prafulla Gang

<jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > If you have experienced such charts - may you please share

your

> > > experience / "astro" reasons for such "sins" in any native's

> > chart. I

> > > will appreciate, if you may share with some charts or

references.

> > It

> > > will help students like me to learn.

> > > ( please tell me JR Readers what he is asking here how can

one

> > > judge ?)

> > > > Also, these "jyotish" reasons from father's perspective,

> mother's

> > > perspective and from unmarried mother's perspective.

> > > >

> > > > I look forward to learn from your experience.

> > > >

> > > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >

> > > My reply to Him

> > >

> > > Kind Sir in this mail I have not mentioned about any chart or

sins

> > > to be seen from any such natives chart,neither any

perspective

> from

> > > any maternal or paternal source.,nor about astro reasoning.

> > > I know You to be a knowledgable person Yourself and folding

hands

> > > before You, believe that it can be the other way round, that

I can

> > > learn from You anytime. You may please consider me a student.

> > >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > > His reply to the above mail.

> > >

> > > Sir

> > >

> > > I thought it is astro forum !! Is not it? That is why, I

> requested

> > > for astro

> > > factors.

> > >

> > > The best part of vedic astrology forum is that, it is very

well

> > > moderated and

> > > focused on astro discussions. Since, you seem to be quite

> > experienced-

> > > I

> > > requested you to share your experience / knowledge. I was not

> > aware

> > > that, you do

> > > not have any astro data on it.

> > >

> > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >

> > > My reply to him which started all the trouble.

> > >

> > > Sir,

> > >

> > > Astro data required on what ?

> > >

> > > a) On Narad Muni being able to foretell previously about Lord

> > > Krishnas birth ?

> > > b) about Jesus Christ coming as saviour ?

> > > c) Hatya in womb consideredas sin according to Hindu

cultures ?

> > > d) No mother would consent voluntarily to abortion ?

> > >

> > > Data is required on above ?

> > > I dont understand. Your questions in your last mail asking

for

> Data

> > > do not seem to be connected with the mail with which your

mail was

> > > attached.

> > >

> > > Another thing, we have no liability whatsover binding on us to

> > > provide data required by anyone on his request.

> > > Also by not providing any Data it cannot be construed that

the

> > poster

> > > does not have astro-data.

> > > It may also be there that he does not want to enter into

> > unnecessary

> > > arguments as I have hinted in my other mail to a gentleman.

> > > It may also be there that my time I would like to spending

> > > making predictions rather than pointless discussions leading

to

> > > nowhere,creating rifts or making persons loose friendships,

> > > You know better.

> > > Last full week I have not entered into any arguments, on

> > > Jyotish remedies Forum , and the results can be seen in the

> number

> > of

> > > predictions made to the querists.

> > >

> > > Again, please be aware that I am always open to Data providing

> > > wherever possible, and when situation demands and if cause is

> > > educational and also if it comes as a request.

> > > Any hitting at any person enveloped in form as request is well

> > > understood by people over here.

> > >

> > > I once again fold hands and request You to please treat me as

your

> > > student and teach me all You can in astrology, for me to

progress

> > and

> > > not in any manner be any cause for my degress.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Prashantkumar G B

>

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Dear ALL Friends,

When I had joined this forum I didnt know that these mails are also circulated and differences happens in forum. I would like to pray to all that lets not throw mud on anyone. Lets not write anything except for good cause and help for others. Lets spread this beautiful knowledge of Astrology to all and learn and not to question other peoples capability. If WE all work in cohesion the astrology groups will be a force to reckon with.

May God Bless ALL.

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Shri Prashant Sahab,

 

Namste,

 

Sir when You are not gulty then why are you hurt ?

My mail was not intended for you or any of the good astrologers

working over here.It was certainly meant for the other lot.

Have I not been doing some little service here and do I not know that

there is no money here for grabbing ?

Sir instead of taking me on, why not take those who have incited me

unnecessarily in ouster from VA, or this Maniv who we dont know,

who unnecessarily used sarcasm on me ? Why not a word to him ?

Sir please stand by right ideals, and judgemental one should be

without any bias towards any one.

When You say that here money is not there then why were my 3 replies

to natives on Jyotish Shastra (One to a lady who was not having

children for 11 years-Baby Hansiini) were moderated and not allowed

to be posted ?

I believe You are the moderator there.

I am not pointing fingers, but certainly we cannot deny that potential

is definitely there for astrologers to earn if they know the right

business tactics.

 

If money is not there why are being people invited to other Forums /

Why are websites given to them or people asked to write on their

private e mail ids ?

Sir I can prove all this, but am not here to change the world,

so I keep quiet.

You are siding Maniv and showing sympathy for him, but did you ask

him why he had to write such stuff about me ?

He said that " once again " You have said that You will stop writing.

which means that I have said before but started writing again.

Sir so what great crime has been done on my part ?

Even Lord NarSimhadeva was pacified by Bhakta Prahladafter

Hiranykashyapu

was killed by Him. So what to speak of us ordinary mortals, if few

good friends come, do some praising, make requests to come back, dont

we change our mind and once again become normal ?

I am member at at least 22 Jyotish Forums here out of total 250, but

surely not writing on any one since last two days.

 

Please Sir I request You not to make a punching bag of someone at

times also be a proper judge and then decide the punishment.

 

affectionately,

Bhaskar.

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

>

> Bhaskar,

>

> this is sad that it is being said a few times once u said this to

arjun-ji [later t chellappa did to arjun ji] and Siam paccific Kumar

also said this in ur Re welcome thread that people r jealous of

their income being reduced if anyone else comes and that is absurd

>

> Ashutosh ji has clearly said this apart from me on this that few

really pay, I hope someone will really come up and say there is

chance to make money here NO WAY of the 6k members here 5-9 astros

max 5 avg write and u were also there in 2 months I am here from 7

months surely can tell there is no money to me made here if that is

the objective surely people will be disappointed sure.

>

> I came here when a friend said there is a group where

discussions are thee saw the trend for a few days and a few good

students and some senior exchange good threads and felt I can put

some of my 26 yr experience also to some use if it helps their

learning curve we did not have these and sheer glory of the subject

keeps me here no other consideration. a lamp can light many lams

without loosing its glow but gives more light tot the room, this

mus be and surely is the mood here. NOT MONEY surely if any one has

made money let Bhakar know privately at least how much can be made.

>

> AND WHAT SPEAKS FOR US IS WHAT WE SHARE, GIVE HERE, anything that

comes ur way say recognition, name, fame at times so odd paid

reading some have surely you cant survive on this if it is a plan

for anyone.

>

> I posted a mail on 26th about what i made here also it stands.

>

> Maniv i am sure isa reader here max not seen him post replies so

what way willl his income be lost....? so take time u need not reply

to any such thread but work on charts it wil take u where u want to.

>

> PLEASE RESPECT THE SUBJECT AND THE PEOPLE BEHIND IT, anything

that you do say to hurt other astros will also hurt you if u remain

in the astro field as WHAT GOES AROUND COMES COMES AROUND....!

>

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote: Maniv,

>

> Yes I am true to my words, I have stopped writing on all the

Forums,

> since the day I mentioned that. Yesterday one Notice was given

> to all of You so that few like you may get the required happiness,

> about my ouster from VA, and the other mail given to Mr.Ganeshji

was

> by mistake posted on the Forum instead of going directly.,to him.

>

> I have not written to a single native here asking for help,dont

worry,

> I leave all business for You and will not give free service, I

will

> not make any losses to your or your lot, rest assure.

>

> Do not provoke me into writing anything further.

> Whenever that is done, I will strike back,I am not away,

> just behind the screen.

>

> Bhaskar.

>

> , "maniv1321" <maniv1321@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hello again Mr.Bhaskar

> >

> > Didn't you announce a few days ago that you had decided (once

> > again!) to stop posting on these forums?

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Maniv

> >

> > , "Bhaskar"

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Learned Members and Friends ,

> > >

> > > This is to inform You all that I have been unceremoniuosly

> > debarred

> > > from the Vedic Astrology Group today,

> > > and without any intimation, notice or chance to explain.

> > >

> > > Last evening I was advised by a good member and supporter,

who

> > told

> > > me that since the member and

> > > moderator/owner in question are known to each other since 15

> years

> > > You will not have a chance to stay here.

> > > and that has what happened .

> > >

> > > I congratulate Shri Prafullaji on his articulate way of

pushing

> me

> > > out of there.

> > > Also I have already given Public Apology to him on that Forum

> > which

> > > was not my liability

> > > but a chance taken and used to clear all misgivings between

us.

> > > But unfortunately it was taken as a weak step.

> > >

> > > I would request You allto go through the first few mails

copied

> > > belowwhich will clearly show that

> > > I was not the one who was interested in communication but was

> > forced

> > > to.

> > >

> > > I knew from the first instance that I am being taken for a

ride

> > when

> > > he first entered my

> > > thread with Goldenballs., but could not get myself out of it.

> > >

> > > Anway I wanted to ask you that if he has had problems with me

> here

> > > and had to give Public apology

> > > to me, then how come he wanted to learn from me as a student

and

> > gain

> > > knowledge ,and why would he be interested in discussing with

me

> > > technically ?

> > >

> > > This clearly shows his mal intentions at time of entering my

> > thread.

> > >

> > > I have given only first few copy of mails ,for you to please

> check

> > > and see yourself that I have tried to get out of this

situation,

> > but

> > > was forced into it, for what ,I think you understand very

well.

> > >

> > > Dear well wishers of JR, I have been too polite with him at

times

> > > which has been taken as some sort of

> > > weakness on my part . If he wishes I am ready to fight till

the

> > last.

> > > He is mistaken if he thinks that he is dealing

> > > with a paper tiger. I have nothing to loose as I am always

with

> > > righteousness. Now many mails will foloow

> > > and I will not be a silent spectator for any wroing I have

not

> > done.

> > >

> > >

> > > My first mail to Golden balls and not to Mr. Prafulla.

> > >

> > >

> > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:10:37 -0000

> > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Involuntary, Voluntary

> > Decisions on

> > > > > Abortions ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Golden...,

> > > > >

> > > > > I have started gradually to like your views and second

them.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) Ordinary souls like us may not know when a special

soul is

> > > > > repeatedly trying to enter a womb or has already entered

or is

> > > going

> > > > > to enter in future.Only elevated personalties can foresee

> that.

> > > > > In case of Lord Krishna it was already foretold by Narada

Muni

> > > when

> > > > > and to whom LordKrishna is going to be born.

> > > > > In case of Infant Jesus too the elavated souls of that

time

> > knew

> > > > > due to the positions of the stars inthe sky at that time

and

> > also

> > > due

> > > > > to their being spiritually advanced,that The Son of God

is

> > going

> > > to

> > > > > arrive at a particular direction and a particular place.

(By

> the

> > > way

> > > > > Christianity did support astrology exceptin last few

> centuries

> > due

> > > > > to Medieval uphevals astrology was proclamied to be the

work

> of

> > > Satan

> > > > > and witchcraft etc. and among this community it was the

> > practised

> > > > > behind closed doors and still majority do not believe

> > > unfortunately)

> > > > >

> > > > > 2)Hatya in womb is definitely considered as sin according

to

> > Hindu

> > > > > cultures and almost all cultures who are still left

religious.

> > > > >

> > > > > 3)You are right voluntarily no sane mother would consent

to

> > > abortion

> > > > > unless the reasons you mentioned or others force her to

abort.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > >

> > > Mr.Prafulla now enters the picture here.

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, Prafulla Gang

<jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > If you have experienced such charts - may you please share

your

> > > experience / "astro" reasons for such "sins" in any native's

> > chart. I

> > > will appreciate, if you may share with some charts or

references.

> > It

> > > will help students like me to learn.

> > > ( please tell me JR Readers what he is asking here how can

one

> > > judge ?)

> > > > Also, these "jyotish" reasons from father's perspective,

> mother's

> > > perspective and from unmarried mother's perspective.

> > > >

> > > > I look forward to learn from your experience.

> > > >

> > > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >

> > > My reply to Him

> > >

> > > Kind Sir in this mail I have not mentioned about any chart or

sins

> > > to be seen from any such natives chart,neither any

perspective

> from

> > > any maternal or paternal source.,nor about astro reasoning.

> > > I know You to be a knowledgable person Yourself and folding

hands

> > > before You, believe that it can be the other way round, that

I can

> > > learn from You anytime. You may please consider me a student.

> > >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > > His reply to the above mail.

> > >

> > > Sir

> > >

> > > I thought it is astro forum !! Is not it? That is why, I

> requested

> > > for astro

> > > factors.

> > >

> > > The best part of vedic astrology forum is that, it is very

well

> > > moderated and

> > > focused on astro discussions. Since, you seem to be quite

> > experienced-

> > > I

> > > requested you to share your experience / knowledge. I was not

> > aware

> > > that, you do

> > > not have any astro data on it.

> > >

> > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >

> > > My reply to him which started all the trouble.

> > >

> > > Sir,

> > >

> > > Astro data required on what ?

> > >

> > > a) On Narad Muni being able to foretell previously about Lord

> > > Krishnas birth ?

> > > b) about Jesus Christ coming as saviour ?

> > > c) Hatya in womb consideredas sin according to Hindu

cultures ?

> > > d) No mother would consent voluntarily to abortion ?

> > >

> > > Data is required on above ?

> > > I dont understand. Your questions in your last mail asking

for

> Data

> > > do not seem to be connected with the mail with which your

mail was

> > > attached.

> > >

> > > Another thing, we have no liability whatsover binding on us to

> > > provide data required by anyone on his request.

> > > Also by not providing any Data it cannot be construed that

the

> > poster

> > > does not have astro-data.

> > > It may also be there that he does not want to enter into

> > unnecessary

> > > arguments as I have hinted in my other mail to a gentleman.

> > > It may also be there that my time I would like to spending

> > > making predictions rather than pointless discussions leading

to

> > > nowhere,creating rifts or making persons loose friendships,

> > > You know better.

> > > Last full week I have not entered into any arguments, on

> > > Jyotish remedies Forum , and the results can be seen in the

> number

> > of

> > > predictions made to the querists.

> > >

> > > Again, please be aware that I am always open to Data providing

> > > wherever possible, and when situation demands and if cause is

> > > educational and also if it comes as a request.

> > > Any hitting at any person enveloped in form as request is well

> > > understood by people over here.

> > >

> > > I once again fold hands and request You to please treat me as

your

> > > student and teach me all You can in astrology, for me to

progress

> > and

> > > not in any manner be any cause for my degress.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Prashantkumar G B

>

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dear brother bhaskarji

 

treating you like a fraternal brother and to give you another

opportunity to share the dias with the cognoscenti, you may use this

mail positively.

 

1. Vedic Astrology is a highly mature group where there are large

number of extremely knowledgeful astrologers of master level or sage

level but most of them show humble personality. needless to say you

and i stand far less in front of thier knowledge. there are many

more great astrologers in that group who engaged in the most

lengthiest threads sharing all astro knowledge and it was the

member's fortune to have got all those knowledgeful mails. NONE, I

REPEAT NONE, of those matured knowledgeful astrologers ever engaged

in personal attacks and subsequent apologies, and ONE DOZEN MAILS IN

ONE DAY REFLECTING ALL KINDS OF AVAILABLE MOODS A MIND CAN HAVE. in

doing so, you forgot sabha maryada that it was a public group of

astro knowledge and not a private chatroom of you and prafulla. it

was unfortunate that you lost your membership there. if you show

continued consistency in giving MATURED CONTRIBUTIONS WITHOUT

REFLECTING ANY OF YOUR MOODS, i would be the first person to

recommend your reinstatement in VA. earlier too i recommended

emphatically for shri mohanraamji in the VA group and he is a great

contributor there.

 

2. Jyotish Remedies, albeit second to Vedic Astrology, is the most

democratic astro group on the web and 100% credit shall be given to

shri tanvirji who himself being an astrologer and having his own

website never chose to sell himself or his site promotion on this

group and, instead did not stop many astrologers whose 100% mails in

this group were about selling thier sites. some people mistook or

misunderstood this democratic leninecy of JR as a free for all ring

for kickboxing. the last month's ban and reinstatement of

prashantji must be a wanring to all such members who took JR for

granted in writing whatever they feel like. even myself reduced

exchange of jyotish views and restricted to sharing more hidden

knowledge of astrology from the vedas and the puranas.

 

when reporters were prodding sachin tendulkar to answer for his bad

performance continuously in various matches, his only answer to all

critics was that "I DONT ANSWER MY CRITICIS AND INSTEAD LET MY BAT

ANSWER THEM". (dont think negatively that sachin meant to hit all

his critics physically with his bat) it means he will improve his

performance and that improved future performance would be a

befitting answer to his critics. similarly if you want to show your

maturity, stop these defending or offending mails completely and

give contributions and let your contributions speak for yourself.

 

with best wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

 

, "Bhaskar"

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Shri Prashant Sahab,

>

> Namste,

>

> Sir when You are not gulty then why are you hurt ?

> My mail was not intended for you or any of the good astrologers

> working over here.It was certainly meant for the other lot.

> Have I not been doing some little service here and do I not know

that

> there is no money here for grabbing ?

> Sir instead of taking me on, why not take those who have incited

me

> unnecessarily in ouster from VA, or this Maniv who we dont know,

> who unnecessarily used sarcasm on me ? Why not a word to him ?

> Sir please stand by right ideals, and judgemental one should be

> without any bias towards any one.

> When You say that here money is not there then why were my 3

replies

> to natives on Jyotish Shastra (One to a lady who was not having

> children for 11 years-Baby Hansiini) were moderated and not

allowed

> to be posted ?

> I believe You are the moderator there.

> I am not pointing fingers, but certainly we cannot deny that

potential

> is definitely there for astrologers to earn if they know the right

> business tactics.

>

> If money is not there why are being people invited to other

Forums /

> Why are websites given to them or people asked to write on their

> private e mail ids ?

> Sir I can prove all this, but am not here to change the world,

> so I keep quiet.

> You are siding Maniv and showing sympathy for him, but did you ask

> him why he had to write such stuff about me ?

> He said that " once again " You have said that You will stop

writing.

> which means that I have said before but started writing again.

> Sir so what great crime has been done on my part ?

> Even Lord NarSimhadeva was pacified by Bhakta Prahladafter

> Hiranykashyapu

> was killed by Him. So what to speak of us ordinary mortals, if few

> good friends come, do some praising, make requests to come back,

dont

> we change our mind and once again become normal ?

> I am member at at least 22 Jyotish Forums here out of total 250,

but

> surely not writing on any one since last two days.

>

> Please Sir I request You not to make a punching bag of someone at

> times also be a proper judge and then decide the punishment.

>

> affectionately,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Bhaskar,

> >

> > this is sad that it is being said a few times once u said this

to

> arjun-ji [later t chellappa did to arjun ji] and Siam paccific

Kumar

> also said this in ur Re welcome thread that people r jealous of

> their income being reduced if anyone else comes and that is absurd

> >

> > Ashutosh ji has clearly said this apart from me on this that

few

> really pay, I hope someone will really come up and say there is

> chance to make money here NO WAY of the 6k members here 5-9

astros

> max 5 avg write and u were also there in 2 months I am here from

7

> months surely can tell there is no money to me made here if that

is

> the objective surely people will be disappointed sure.

> >

> > I came here when a friend said there is a group where

> discussions are thee saw the trend for a few days and a few good

> students and some senior exchange good threads and felt I can put

> some of my 26 yr experience also to some use if it helps their

> learning curve we did not have these and sheer glory of the

subject

> keeps me here no other consideration. a lamp can light many lams

> without loosing its glow but gives more light tot the room, this

> mus be and surely is the mood here. NOT MONEY surely if any one

has

> made money let Bhakar know privately at least how much can be

made.

> >

> > AND WHAT SPEAKS FOR US IS WHAT WE SHARE, GIVE HERE, anything

that

> comes ur way say recognition, name, fame at times so odd paid

> reading some have surely you cant survive on this if it is a plan

> for anyone.

> >

> > I posted a mail on 26th about what i made here also it stands.

> >

> > Maniv i am sure isa reader here max not seen him post replies

so

> what way willl his income be lost....? so take time u need not

reply

> to any such thread but work on charts it wil take u where u want

to.

> >

> > PLEASE RESPECT THE SUBJECT AND THE PEOPLE BEHIND IT, anything

> that you do say to hurt other astros will also hurt you if u

remain

> in the astro field as WHAT GOES AROUND COMES COMES AROUND....!

> >

> >

> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote: Maniv,

> >

> > Yes I am true to my words, I have stopped writing on all the

> Forums,

> > since the day I mentioned that. Yesterday one Notice was given

> > to all of You so that few like you may get the required

happiness,

> > about my ouster from VA, and the other mail given to

Mr.Ganeshji

> was

> > by mistake posted on the Forum instead of going directly.,to

him.

> >

> > I have not written to a single native here asking for

help,dont

> worry,

> > I leave all business for You and will not give free service, I

> will

> > not make any losses to your or your lot, rest assure.

> >

> > Do not provoke me into writing anything further.

> > Whenever that is done, I will strike back,I am not away,

> > just behind the screen.

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , "maniv1321"

<maniv1321@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello again Mr.Bhaskar

> > >

> > > Didn't you announce a few days ago that you had decided

(once

> > > again!) to stop posting on these forums?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Maniv

> > >

> > > , "Bhaskar"

> > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Learned Members and Friends ,

> > > >

> > > > This is to inform You all that I have been unceremoniuosly

> > > debarred

> > > > from the Vedic Astrology Group today,

> > > > and without any intimation, notice or chance to explain.

> > > >

> > > > Last evening I was advised by a good member and supporter,

> who

> > > told

> > > > me that since the member and

> > > > moderator/owner in question are known to each other since

15

> > years

> > > > You will not have a chance to stay here.

> > > > and that has what happened .

> > > >

> > > > I congratulate Shri Prafullaji on his articulate way of

> pushing

> > me

> > > > out of there.

> > > > Also I have already given Public Apology to him on that

Forum

> > > which

> > > > was not my liability

> > > > but a chance taken and used to clear all misgivings

between

> us.

> > > > But unfortunately it was taken as a weak step.

> > > >

> > > > I would request You allto go through the first few mails

> copied

> > > > belowwhich will clearly show that

> > > > I was not the one who was interested in communication but

was

> > > forced

> > > > to.

> > > >

> > > > I knew from the first instance that I am being taken for a

> ride

> > > when

> > > > he first entered my

> > > > thread with Goldenballs., but could not get myself out of

it.

> > > >

> > > > Anway I wanted to ask you that if he has had problems with

me

> > here

> > > > and had to give Public apology

> > > > to me, then how come he wanted to learn from me as a

student

> and

> > > gain

> > > > knowledge ,and why would he be interested in discussing

with

> me

> > > > technically ?

> > > >

> > > > This clearly shows his mal intentions at time of entering

my

> > > thread.

> > > >

> > > > I have given only first few copy of mails ,for you to

please

> > check

> > > > and see yourself that I have tried to get out of this

> situation,

> > > but

> > > > was forced into it, for what ,I think you understand very

> well.

> > > >

> > > > Dear well wishers of JR, I have been too polite with him

at

> times

> > > > which has been taken as some sort of

> > > > weakness on my part . If he wishes I am ready to fight

till

> the

> > > last.

> > > > He is mistaken if he thinks that he is dealing

> > > > with a paper tiger. I have nothing to loose as I am always

> with

> > > > righteousness. Now many mails will foloow

> > > > and I will not be a silent spectator for any wroing I have

> not

> > > done.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > My first mail to Golden balls and not to Mr. Prafulla.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > > Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:10:37 -0000

> > > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Involuntary, Voluntary

> > > Decisions on

> > > > > > Abortions ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Golden...,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have started gradually to like your views and second

> them.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1) Ordinary souls like us may not know when a special

> soul is

> > > > > > repeatedly trying to enter a womb or has already

entered

> or is

> > > > going

> > > > > > to enter in future.Only elevated personalties can

foresee

> > that.

> > > > > > In case of Lord Krishna it was already foretold by

Narada

> Muni

> > > > when

> > > > > > and to whom LordKrishna is going to be born.

> > > > > > In case of Infant Jesus too the elavated souls of that

> time

> > > knew

> > > > > > due to the positions of the stars inthe sky at that

time

> and

> > > also

> > > > due

> > > > > > to their being spiritually advanced,that The Son of

God

> is

> > > going

> > > > to

> > > > > > arrive at a particular direction and a particular

place.

> (By

> > the

> > > > way

> > > > > > Christianity did support astrology exceptin last few

> > centuries

> > > due

> > > > > > to Medieval uphevals astrology was proclamied to be

the

> work

> > of

> > > > Satan

> > > > > > and witchcraft etc. and among this community it was

the

> > > practised

> > > > > > behind closed doors and still majority do not believe

> > > > unfortunately)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2)Hatya in womb is definitely considered as sin

according

> to

> > > Hindu

> > > > > > cultures and almost all cultures who are still left

> religious.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3)You are right voluntarily no sane mother would

consent

> to

> > > > abortion

> > > > > > unless the reasons you mentioned or others force her

to

> abort.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Mr.Prafulla now enters the picture here.

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, Prafulla Gang

> <jyotish@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > If you have experienced such charts - may you please

share

> your

> > > > experience / "astro" reasons for such "sins" in any

native's

> > > chart. I

> > > > will appreciate, if you may share with some charts or

> references.

> > > It

> > > > will help students like me to learn.

> > > > ( please tell me JR Readers what he is asking here how

can

> one

> > > > judge ?)

> > > > > Also, these "jyotish" reasons from father's perspective,

> > mother's

> > > > perspective and from unmarried mother's perspective.

> > > > >

> > > > > I look forward to learn from your experience.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > >

> > > > My reply to Him

> > > >

> > > > Kind Sir in this mail I have not mentioned about any chart

or

> sins

> > > > to be seen from any such natives chart,neither any

> perspective

> > from

> > > > any maternal or paternal source.,nor about astro reasoning.

> > > > I know You to be a knowledgable person Yourself and

folding

> hands

> > > > before You, believe that it can be the other way round,

that

> I can

> > > > learn from You anytime. You may please consider me a

student.

> > > >

> > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > His reply to the above mail.

> > > >

> > > > Sir

> > > >

> > > > I thought it is astro forum !! Is not it? That is why, I

> > requested

> > > > for astro

> > > > factors.

> > > >

> > > > The best part of vedic astrology forum is that, it is very

> well

> > > > moderated and

> > > > focused on astro discussions. Since, you seem to be quite

> > > experienced-

> > > > I

> > > > requested you to share your experience / knowledge. I was

not

> > > aware

> > > > that, you do

> > > > not have any astro data on it.

> > > >

> > > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > >

> > > > My reply to him which started all the trouble.

> > > >

> > > > Sir,

> > > >

> > > > Astro data required on what ?

> > > >

> > > > a) On Narad Muni being able to foretell previously about

Lord

> > > > Krishnas birth ?

> > > > b) about Jesus Christ coming as saviour ?

> > > > c) Hatya in womb consideredas sin according to Hindu

> cultures ?

> > > > d) No mother would consent voluntarily to abortion ?

> > > >

> > > > Data is required on above ?

> > > > I dont understand. Your questions in your last mail asking

> for

> > Data

> > > > do not seem to be connected with the mail with which your

> mail was

> > > > attached.

> > > >

> > > > Another thing, we have no liability whatsover binding on

us to

> > > > provide data required by anyone on his request.

> > > > Also by not providing any Data it cannot be construed that

> the

> > > poster

> > > > does not have astro-data.

> > > > It may also be there that he does not want to enter into

> > > unnecessary

> > > > arguments as I have hinted in my other mail to a gentleman.

> > > > It may also be there that my time I would like to spending

> > > > making predictions rather than pointless discussions

leading

> to

> > > > nowhere,creating rifts or making persons loose friendships,

> > > > You know better.

> > > > Last full week I have not entered into any arguments, on

> > > > Jyotish remedies Forum , and the results can be seen in

the

> > number

> > > of

> > > > predictions made to the querists.

> > > >

> > > > Again, please be aware that I am always open to Data

providing

> > > > wherever possible, and when situation demands and if cause

is

> > > > educational and also if it comes as a request.

> > > > Any hitting at any person enveloped in form as request is

well

> > > > understood by people over here.

> > > >

> > > > I once again fold hands and request You to please treat me

as

> your

> > > > student and teach me all You can in astrology, for me to

> progress

> > > and

> > > > not in any manner be any cause for my degress.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Prashantkumar G B

> >

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[Guest guest]

Shri Panditji,

 

Pranams to You.

 

I am never interested in personal attacks, because the base nature of

human comes out of that and nothing good. Problem with me is that any

untowards reference to Hindus,Astrology,techniques,systems,Vedas,

is not tolerated by me and neither is any way trying to push down any

fellow coleeague. And when I air out my thoughts it becomes a issue.

 

But You will always find that I have mantained this form (Airing

out my thought)for just everyone and not not biased. Also

become friendly with the same person afterwards. I think that

is perfectly human. Let there be differences again dosent matter

if finally still friendship is mantained, no harm. That has been

my motto. Respect where should be given and confront where

necessary. Keeping heart clear thus. Unfortunately I do not

have pretentious nature and come out of whatever is there in me.

 

Sir You spoke of Sabhya Maryada. If You notice the threads from

starting in VA You will realise that I had mantained there for some

while this sabhyata, but then as my nature, I came out again.,

when provoked.

 

If You also notice that my last one week in JR was completely

dedicated to serving natives, and since I was not attacked I was

busy doing what I like to do and what I cme here for, ie. serving.

Another thing let me confess apart from coming here to tone up my

skills and also serve people, it always felt good when blessings

came from natives, which was the reason why I wished to continue here.

 

Anyway, I appreciate your honest views and advice, and will try

my best to implement them in all spheres of life., and not just

Forums.

 

affectionately,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

, "panditarjun2004"

<panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> dear brother bhaskarji

>

> treating you like a fraternal brother and to give you another

> opportunity to share the dias with the cognoscenti, you may use

this

> mail positively.

>

> 1. Vedic Astrology is a highly mature group where there are large

> number of extremely knowledgeful astrologers of master level or

sage

> level but most of them show humble personality. needless to say

you

> and i stand far less in front of thier knowledge. there are many

> more great astrologers in that group who engaged in the most

> lengthiest threads sharing all astro knowledge and it was the

> member's fortune to have got all those knowledgeful mails. NONE, I

> REPEAT NONE, of those matured knowledgeful astrologers ever engaged

> in personal attacks and subsequent apologies, and ONE DOZEN MAILS

IN

> ONE DAY REFLECTING ALL KINDS OF AVAILABLE MOODS A MIND CAN HAVE.

in

> doing so, you forgot sabha maryada that it was a public group of

> astro knowledge and not a private chatroom of you and prafulla. it

> was unfortunate that you lost your membership there. if you show

> continued consistency in giving MATURED CONTRIBUTIONS WITHOUT

> REFLECTING ANY OF YOUR MOODS, i would be the first person to

> recommend your reinstatement in VA. earlier too i recommended

> emphatically for shri mohanraamji in the VA group and he is a great

> contributor there.

>

> 2. Jyotish Remedies, albeit second to Vedic Astrology, is the most

> democratic astro group on the web and 100% credit shall be given to

> shri tanvirji who himself being an astrologer and having his own

> website never chose to sell himself or his site promotion on this

> group and, instead did not stop many astrologers whose 100% mails

in

> this group were about selling thier sites. some people mistook or

> misunderstood this democratic leninecy of JR as a free for all ring

> for kickboxing. the last month's ban and reinstatement of

> prashantji must be a wanring to all such members who took JR for

> granted in writing whatever they feel like. even myself reduced

> exchange of jyotish views and restricted to sharing more hidden

> knowledge of astrology from the vedas and the puranas.

>

> when reporters were prodding sachin tendulkar to answer for his bad

> performance continuously in various matches, his only answer to all

> critics was that "I DONT ANSWER MY CRITICIS AND INSTEAD LET MY BAT

> ANSWER THEM". (dont think negatively that sachin meant to hit all

> his critics physically with his bat) it means he will improve his

> performance and that improved future performance would be a

> befitting answer to his critics. similarly if you want to show

your

> maturity, stop these defending or offending mails completely and

> give contributions and let your contributions speak for yourself.

>

> with best wishes and blessings

> pandit arjun

>

> , "Bhaskar"

> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> > Shri Prashant Sahab,

> >

> > Namste,

> >

> > Sir when You are not gulty then why are you hurt ?

> > My mail was not intended for you or any of the good astrologers

> > working over here.It was certainly meant for the other lot.

> > Have I not been doing some little service here and do I not know

> that

> > there is no money here for grabbing ?

> > Sir instead of taking me on, why not take those who have incited

> me

> > unnecessarily in ouster from VA, or this Maniv who we dont know,

> > who unnecessarily used sarcasm on me ? Why not a word to him ?

> > Sir please stand by right ideals, and judgemental one should be

> > without any bias towards any one.

> > When You say that here money is not there then why were my 3

> replies

> > to natives on Jyotish Shastra (One to a lady who was not having

> > children for 11 years-Baby Hansiini) were moderated and not

> allowed

> > to be posted ?

> > I believe You are the moderator there.

> > I am not pointing fingers, but certainly we cannot deny that

> potential

> > is definitely there for astrologers to earn if they know the

right

> > business tactics.

> >

> > If money is not there why are being people invited to other

> Forums /

> > Why are websites given to them or people asked to write on their

> > private e mail ids ?

> > Sir I can prove all this, but am not here to change the world,

> > so I keep quiet.

> > You are siding Maniv and showing sympathy for him, but did you

ask

> > him why he had to write such stuff about me ?

> > He said that " once again " You have said that You will stop

> writing.

> > which means that I have said before but started writing again.

> > Sir so what great crime has been done on my part ?

> > Even Lord NarSimhadeva was pacified by Bhakta Prahladafter

> > Hiranykashyapu

> > was killed by Him. So what to speak of us ordinary mortals, if

few

> > good friends come, do some praising, make requests to come back,

> dont

> > we change our mind and once again become normal ?

> > I am member at at least 22 Jyotish Forums here out of total 250,

> but

> > surely not writing on any one since last two days.

> >

> > Please Sir I request You not to make a punching bag of someone at

> > times also be a proper judge and then decide the punishment.

> >

> > affectionately,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Bhaskar,

> > >

> > > this is sad that it is being said a few times once u said

this

> to

> > arjun-ji [later t chellappa did to arjun ji] and Siam paccific

> Kumar

> > also said this in ur Re welcome thread that people r jealous of

> > their income being reduced if anyone else comes and that is

absurd

> > >

> > > Ashutosh ji has clearly said this apart from me on this that

> few

> > really pay, I hope someone will really come up and say there is

> > chance to make money here NO WAY of the 6k members here 5-9

> astros

> > max 5 avg write and u were also there in 2 months I am here

from

> 7

> > months surely can tell there is no money to me made here if that

> is

> > the objective surely people will be disappointed sure.

> > >

> > > I came here when a friend said there is a group where

> > discussions are thee saw the trend for a few days and a few

good

> > students and some senior exchange good threads and felt I can

put

> > some of my 26 yr experience also to some use if it helps their

> > learning curve we did not have these and sheer glory of the

> subject

> > keeps me here no other consideration. a lamp can light many lams

> > without loosing its glow but gives more light tot the room,

this

> > mus be and surely is the mood here. NOT MONEY surely if any one

> has

> > made money let Bhakar know privately at least how much can be

> made.

> > >

> > > AND WHAT SPEAKS FOR US IS WHAT WE SHARE, GIVE HERE, anything

> that

> > comes ur way say recognition, name, fame at times so odd paid

> > reading some have surely you cant survive on this if it is a

plan

> > for anyone.

> > >

> > > I posted a mail on 26th about what i made here also it

stands.

> > >

> > > Maniv i am sure isa reader here max not seen him post replies

> so

> > what way willl his income be lost....? so take time u need not

> reply

> > to any such thread but work on charts it wil take u where u want

> to.

> > >

> > > PLEASE RESPECT THE SUBJECT AND THE PEOPLE BEHIND IT, anything

> > that you do say to hurt other astros will also hurt you if u

> remain

> > in the astro field as WHAT GOES AROUND COMES COMES AROUND....!

> > >

> > >

> > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote: Maniv,

> > >

> > > Yes I am true to my words, I have stopped writing on all the

> > Forums,

> > > since the day I mentioned that. Yesterday one Notice was

given

> > > to all of You so that few like you may get the required

> happiness,

> > > about my ouster from VA, and the other mail given to

> Mr.Ganeshji

> > was

> > > by mistake posted on the Forum instead of going directly.,to

> him.

> > >

> > > I have not written to a single native here asking for

> help,dont

> > worry,

> > > I leave all business for You and will not give free service,

I

> > will

> > > not make any losses to your or your lot, rest assure.

> > >

> > > Do not provoke me into writing anything further.

> > > Whenever that is done, I will strike back,I am not away,

> > > just behind the screen.

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > , "maniv1321"

> <maniv1321@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hello again Mr.Bhaskar

> > > >

> > > > Didn't you announce a few days ago that you had decided

> (once

> > > > again!) to stop posting on these forums?

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Maniv

> > > >

> > > > , "Bhaskar"

> > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Learned Members and Friends ,

> > > > >

> > > > > This is to inform You all that I have been

unceremoniuosly

> > > > debarred

> > > > > from the Vedic Astrology Group today,

> > > > > and without any intimation, notice or chance to explain.

> > > > >

> > > > > Last evening I was advised by a good member and

supporter,

> > who

> > > > told

> > > > > me that since the member and

> > > > > moderator/owner in question are known to each other since

> 15

> > > years

> > > > > You will not have a chance to stay here.

> > > > > and that has what happened .

> > > > >

> > > > > I congratulate Shri Prafullaji on his articulate way of

> > pushing

> > > me

> > > > > out of there.

> > > > > Also I have already given Public Apology to him on that

> Forum

> > > > which

> > > > > was not my liability

> > > > > but a chance taken and used to clear all misgivings

> between

> > us.

> > > > > But unfortunately it was taken as a weak step.

> > > > >

> > > > > I would request You allto go through the first few mails

> > copied

> > > > > belowwhich will clearly show that

> > > > > I was not the one who was interested in communication but

> was

> > > > forced

> > > > > to.

> > > > >

> > > > > I knew from the first instance that I am being taken for

a

> > ride

> > > > when

> > > > > he first entered my

> > > > > thread with Goldenballs., but could not get myself out of

> it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Anway I wanted to ask you that if he has had problems

with

> me

> > > here

> > > > > and had to give Public apology

> > > > > to me, then how come he wanted to learn from me as a

> student

> > and

> > > > gain

> > > > > knowledge ,and why would he be interested in discussing

> with

> > me

> > > > > technically ?

> > > > >

> > > > > This clearly shows his mal intentions at time of entering

> my

> > > > thread.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have given only first few copy of mails ,for you to

> please

> > > check

> > > > > and see yourself that I have tried to get out of this

> > situation,

> > > > but

> > > > > was forced into it, for what ,I think you understand very

> > well.

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear well wishers of JR, I have been too polite with him

> at

> > times

> > > > > which has been taken as some sort of

> > > > > weakness on my part . If he wishes I am ready to fight

> till

> > the

> > > > last.

> > > > > He is mistaken if he thinks that he is dealing

> > > > > with a paper tiger. I have nothing to loose as I am

always

> > with

> > > > > righteousness. Now many mails will foloow

> > > > > and I will not be a silent spectator for any wroing I

have

> > not

> > > > done.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > My first mail to Golden balls and not to Mr. Prafulla.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > > > Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:10:37 -0000

> > > > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Involuntary, Voluntary

> > > > Decisions on

> > > > > > > Abortions ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Golden...,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have started gradually to like your views and

second

> > them.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1) Ordinary souls like us may not know when a special

> > soul is

> > > > > > > repeatedly trying to enter a womb or has already

> entered

> > or is

> > > > > going

> > > > > > > to enter in future.Only elevated personalties can

> foresee

> > > that.

> > > > > > > In case of Lord Krishna it was already foretold by

> Narada

> > Muni

> > > > > when

> > > > > > > and to whom LordKrishna is going to be born.

> > > > > > > In case of Infant Jesus too the elavated souls of

that

> > time

> > > > knew

> > > > > > > due to the positions of the stars inthe sky at that

> time

> > and

> > > > also

> > > > > due

> > > > > > > to their being spiritually advanced,that The Son of

> God

> > is

> > > > going

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > arrive at a particular direction and a particular

> place.

> > (By

> > > the

> > > > > way

> > > > > > > Christianity did support astrology exceptin last few

> > > centuries

> > > > due

> > > > > > > to Medieval uphevals astrology was proclamied to be

> the

> > work

> > > of

> > > > > Satan

> > > > > > > and witchcraft etc. and among this community it was

> the

> > > > practised

> > > > > > > behind closed doors and still majority do not believe

> > > > > unfortunately)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2)Hatya in womb is definitely considered as sin

> according

> > to

> > > > Hindu

> > > > > > > cultures and almost all cultures who are still left

> > religious.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3)You are right voluntarily no sane mother would

> consent

> > to

> > > > > abortion

> > > > > > > unless the reasons you mentioned or others force her

> to

> > abort.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Mr.Prafulla now enters the picture here.

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, Prafulla Gang

> > <jyotish@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If you have experienced such charts - may you please

> share

> > your

> > > > > experience / "astro" reasons for such "sins" in any

> native's

> > > > chart. I

> > > > > will appreciate, if you may share with some charts or

> > references.

> > > > It

> > > > > will help students like me to learn.

> > > > > ( please tell me JR Readers what he is asking here how

> can

> > one

> > > > > judge ?)

> > > > > > Also, these "jyotish" reasons from father's

perspective,

> > > mother's

> > > > > perspective and from unmarried mother's perspective.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I look forward to learn from your experience.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > > >

> > > > > My reply to Him

> > > > >

> > > > > Kind Sir in this mail I have not mentioned about any

chart

> or

> > sins

> > > > > to be seen from any such natives chart,neither any

> > perspective

> > > from

> > > > > any maternal or paternal source.,nor about astro

reasoning.

> > > > > I know You to be a knowledgable person Yourself and

> folding

> > hands

> > > > > before You, believe that it can be the other way round,

> that

> > I can

> > > > > learn from You anytime. You may please consider me a

> student.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > His reply to the above mail.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sir

> > > > >

> > > > > I thought it is astro forum !! Is not it? That is why, I

> > > requested

> > > > > for astro

> > > > > factors.

> > > > >

> > > > > The best part of vedic astrology forum is that, it is

very

> > well

> > > > > moderated and

> > > > > focused on astro discussions. Since, you seem to be quite

> > > > experienced-

> > > > > I

> > > > > requested you to share your experience / knowledge. I was

> not

> > > > aware

> > > > > that, you do

> > > > > not have any astro data on it.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > > >

> > > > > My reply to him which started all the trouble.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sir,

> > > > >

> > > > > Astro data required on what ?

> > > > >

> > > > > a) On Narad Muni being able to foretell previously about

> Lord

> > > > > Krishnas birth ?

> > > > > b) about Jesus Christ coming as saviour ?

> > > > > c) Hatya in womb consideredas sin according to Hindu

> > cultures ?

> > > > > d) No mother would consent voluntarily to abortion ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Data is required on above ?

> > > > > I dont understand. Your questions in your last mail

asking

> > for

> > > Data

> > > > > do not seem to be connected with the mail with which your

> > mail was

> > > > > attached.

> > > > >

> > > > > Another thing, we have no liability whatsover binding on

> us to

> > > > > provide data required by anyone on his request.

> > > > > Also by not providing any Data it cannot be construed

that

> > the

> > > > poster

> > > > > does not have astro-data.

> > > > > It may also be there that he does not want to enter into

> > > > unnecessary

> > > > > arguments as I have hinted in my other mail to a

gentleman.

> > > > > It may also be there that my time I would like to spending

> > > > > making predictions rather than pointless discussions

> leading

> > to

> > > > > nowhere,creating rifts or making persons loose

friendships,

> > > > > You know better.

> > > > > Last full week I have not entered into any arguments, on

> > > > > Jyotish remedies Forum , and the results can be seen in

> the

> > > number

> > > > of

> > > > > predictions made to the querists.

> > > > >

> > > > > Again, please be aware that I am always open to Data

> providing

> > > > > wherever possible, and when situation demands and if

cause

> is

> > > > > educational and also if it comes as a request.

> > > > > Any hitting at any person enveloped in form as request is

> well

> > > > > understood by people over here.

> > > > >

> > > > > I once again fold hands and request You to please treat

me

> as

> > your

> > > > > student and teach me all You can in astrology, for me to

> > progress

> > > > and

> > > > > not in any manner be any cause for my degress.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Prashantkumar G B

> > >

> > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on

>

> > group but

> > > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or

> phone.

> > > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID also

> > >

> > > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar@

> > > 09840051861

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> > >