THE TRUTH -----NOT FAIR TO OVER DO IT 2/9 p2

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Shri Prashant sahab,

 

Was just penning my thoughts and not meaning otherwise.

I know you are a honest and good man.

No doubts about that.

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Bhaskar,

> what i posted about me is what I can say honestly and i have also

added want to know if anyone has made isn't it ? hopefully yhey will

come up it is not from guilt it sfrom what ic an say I can speak for

myself.

>

> I am not moderator in Jyotishshastra by the Link u attribute that

I have no u can chk with the moderator owner for more surely u know

i have no time for this i need 16 month break and post when I can,

AM free. as long as my stay helps a few souls learn or relive them

fine in my readings

>

> I get occasional private reading requests from WOMEN mostly and

it is always been free too my concern in astrology is married women

sure they have seen my posts and only come, and can I say pay me

then I will answer ur q? no IT IS UNETHICAL TO DEMAND money if u get

it take it

> unethical when someone approaches in grief, strife. i don't

answer privately if I've seen them write in groups also for which

what i write in groups is clear enough.

>

> I AM NOT supporting Maniv or anyone. I react as Said a few time

only when ASTROLOGERS, HINDUISM, VEDIC HERITAGE, BV RAMAN, Swami

Vivekananda r not shown respect HERE u did not respect astrologers so

I wrote nothing for or against anyone.

>

> I ALSO WROTE a MAIL 2 DAYS before u r BAN in JR itself that AI

will be different,they r strict u can try ur luck with a diff ID

and get into confrontation with any new member forget ur old ones

and see how long it takes to get banned same time it will. as Long

as u stick to astro in VA u r free, JR is a free ride for all.

> I can say with a unique record of the 1st and only person Banned

in JR becauses os sure JEALOPUS, mean one.

>

> BTW for the record I was invited by Ganesh who had the longest

exchange with me HOT STUFF check with him, we r good friends after

that as he came around and saw what i had to say with an OPEN MIND,

that is all it takes.

>

> GAURAV GOSH SAID HE WAS ALSO inst it. and regulars in VA CAN SAY

MORE.

>

> pl don't treat it as a war, support to anyone i am trying to

make ur re-entry easy for u, so it is up to u to use it or fritter

it away.

>

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote: Shri Prashant

Sahab,

>

> Namste,

>

> Sir when You are not gulty then why are you hurt ?

> My mail was not intended for you or any of the good astrologers

> working over here.It was certainly meant for the other lot.

> Have I not been doing some little service here and do I not know

that

> there is no money here for grabbing ?

> Sir instead of taking me on, why not take those who have incited

me

> unnecessarily in ouster from VA, or this Maniv who we dont know,

> who unnecessarily used sarcasm on me ? Why not a word to him ?

> Sir please stand by right ideals, and judgemental one should be

> without any bias towards any one.

> When You say that here money is not there then why were my 3

replies

> to natives on Jyotish Shastra (One to a lady who was not having

> children for 11 years-Baby Hansiini) were moderated and not

allowed

> to be posted ?

> I believe You are the moderator there.

> I am not pointing fingers, but certainly we cannot deny that

potential

> is definitely there for astrologers to earn if they know the

right

> business tactics.

>

> If money is not there why are being people invited to other

Forums /

> Why are websites given to them or people asked to write on their

> private e mail ids ?

> Sir I can prove all this, but am not here to change the world,

> so I keep quiet.

> You are siding Maniv and showing sympathy for him, but did you

ask

> him why he had to write such stuff about me ?

> He said that " once again " You have said that You will stop

writing.

> which means that I have said before but started writing again.

> Sir so what great crime has been done on my part ?

> Even Lord NarSimhadeva was pacified by Bhakta Prahladafter

> Hiranykashyapu

> was killed by Him. So what to speak of us ordinary mortals, if

few

> good friends come, do some praising, make requests to come back,

dont

> we change our mind and once again become normal ?

> I am member at at least 22 Jyotish Forums here out of total 250,

but

> surely not writing on any one since last two days.

>

> Please Sir I request You not to make a punching bag of someone at

> times also be a proper judge and then decide the punishment.

>

> affectionately,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Bhaskar,

> >

> > this is sad that it is being said a few times once u said

this to

> arjun-ji [later t chellappa did to arjun ji] and Siam paccific

Kumar

> also said this in ur Re welcome thread that people r jealous of

> their income being reduced if anyone else comes and that is

absurd

> >

> > Ashutosh ji has clearly said this apart from me on this that

few

> really pay, I hope someone will really come up and say there is

> chance to make money here NO WAY of the 6k members here 5-9

astros

> max 5 avg write and u were also there in 2 months I am here

from 7

> months surely can tell there is no money to me made here if that

is

> the objective surely people will be disappointed sure.

> >

> > I came here when a friend said there is a group where

> discussions are thee saw the trend for a few days and a few

good

> students and some senior exchange good threads and felt I can

put

> some of my 26 yr experience also to some use if it helps their

> learning curve we did not have these and sheer glory of the

subject

> keeps me here no other consideration. a lamp can light many lams

> without loosing its glow but gives more light tot the room,

this

> mus be and surely is the mood here. NOT MONEY surely if any one

has

> made money let Bhakar know privately at least how much can be

made.

> >

> > AND WHAT SPEAKS FOR US IS WHAT WE SHARE, GIVE HERE, anything

that

> comes ur way say recognition, name, fame at times so odd paid

> reading some have surely you cant survive on this if it is a

plan

> for anyone.

> >

> > I posted a mail on 26th about what i made here also it

stands.

> >

> > Maniv i am sure isa reader here max not seen him post replies

so

> what way willl his income be lost....? so take time u need not

reply

> to any such thread but work on charts it wil take u where u want

to.

> >

> > PLEASE RESPECT THE SUBJECT AND THE PEOPLE BEHIND IT, anything

> that you do say to hurt other astros will also hurt you if u

remain

> in the astro field as WHAT GOES AROUND COMES COMES AROUND....!

> >

> >

> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote: Maniv,

> >

> > Yes I am true to my words, I have stopped writing on all the

> Forums,

> > since the day I mentioned that. Yesterday one Notice was

given

> > to all of You so that few like you may get the required

happiness,

> > about my ouster from VA, and the other mail given to

Mr.Ganeshji

> was

> > by mistake posted on the Forum instead of going directly.,to

him.

> >

> > I have not written to a single native here asking for

help,dont

> worry,

> > I leave all business for You and will not give free service,

I

> will

> > not make any losses to your or your lot, rest assure.

> >

> > Do not provoke me into writing anything further.

> > Whenever that is done, I will strike back,I am not away,

> > just behind the screen.

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , "maniv1321"

<maniv1321@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello again Mr.Bhaskar

> > >

> > > Didn't you announce a few days ago that you had decided

(once

> > > again!) to stop posting on these forums?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Maniv

> > >

> > > , "Bhaskar"

> > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Learned Members and Friends ,

> > > >

> > > > This is to inform You all that I have been

unceremoniuosly

> > > debarred

> > > > from the Vedic Astrology Group today,

> > > > and without any intimation, notice or chance to explain.

> > > >

> > > > Last evening I was advised by a good member and

supporter,

> who

> > > told

> > > > me that since the member and

> > > > moderator/owner in question are known to each other since

15

> > years

> > > > You will not have a chance to stay here.

> > > > and that has what happened .

> > > >

> > > > I congratulate Shri Prafullaji on his articulate way of

> pushing

> > me

> > > > out of there.

> > > > Also I have already given Public Apology to him on that

Forum

> > > which

> > > > was not my liability

> > > > but a chance taken and used to clear all misgivings

between

> us.

> > > > But unfortunately it was taken as a weak step.

> > > >

> > > > I would request You allto go through the first few mails

> copied

> > > > belowwhich will clearly show that

> > > > I was not the one who was interested in communication but

was

> > > forced

> > > > to.

> > > >

> > > > I knew from the first instance that I am being taken for

a

> ride

> > > when

> > > > he first entered my

> > > > thread with Goldenballs., but could not get myself out of

it.

> > > >

> > > > Anway I wanted to ask you that if he has had problems

with me

> > here

> > > > and had to give Public apology

> > > > to me, then how come he wanted to learn from me as a

student

> and

> > > gain

> > > > knowledge ,and why would he be interested in discussing

with

> me

> > > > technically ?

> > > >

> > > > This clearly shows his mal intentions at time of entering

my

> > > thread.

> > > >

> > > > I have given only first few copy of mails ,for you to

please

> > check

> > > > and see yourself that I have tried to get out of this

> situation,

> > > but

> > > > was forced into it, for what ,I think you understand very

> well.

> > > >

> > > > Dear well wishers of JR, I have been too polite with him

at

> times

> > > > which has been taken as some sort of

> > > > weakness on my part . If he wishes I am ready to fight

till

> the

> > > last.

> > > > He is mistaken if he thinks that he is dealing

> > > > with a paper tiger. I have nothing to loose as I am

always

> with

> > > > righteousness. Now many mails will foloow

> > > > and I will not be a silent spectator for any wroing I

have

> not

> > > done.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > My first mail to Golden balls and not to Mr. Prafulla.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > > Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:10:37 -0000

> > > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Involuntary, Voluntary

> > > Decisions on

> > > > > > Abortions ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Golden...,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have started gradually to like your views and

second

> them.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1) Ordinary souls like us may not know when a special

> soul is

> > > > > > repeatedly trying to enter a womb or has already

entered

> or is

> > > > going

> > > > > > to enter in future.Only elevated personalties can

foresee

> > that.

> > > > > > In case of Lord Krishna it was already foretold by

Narada

> Muni

> > > > when

> > > > > > and to whom LordKrishna is going to be born.

> > > > > > In case of Infant Jesus too the elavated souls of

that

> time

> > > knew

> > > > > > due to the positions of the stars inthe sky at that

time

> and

> > > also

> > > > due

> > > > > > to their being spiritually advanced,that The Son of

God

> is

> > > going

> > > > to

> > > > > > arrive at a particular direction and a particular

place.

> (By

> > the

> > > > way

> > > > > > Christianity did support astrology exceptin last few

> > centuries

> > > due

> > > > > > to Medieval uphevals astrology was proclamied to be

the

> work

> > of

> > > > Satan

> > > > > > and witchcraft etc. and among this community it was

the

> > > practised

> > > > > > behind closed doors and still majority do not believe

> > > > unfortunately)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2)Hatya in womb is definitely considered as sin

according

> to

> > > Hindu

> > > > > > cultures and almost all cultures who are still left

> religious.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3)You are right voluntarily no sane mother would

consent

> to

> > > > abortion

> > > > > > unless the reasons you mentioned or others force her

to

> abort.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Mr.Prafulla now enters the picture here.

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, Prafulla Gang

> <jyotish@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > If you have experienced such charts - may you please

share

> your

> > > > experience / "astro" reasons for such "sins" in any

native's

> > > chart. I

> > > > will appreciate, if you may share with some charts or

> references.

> > > It

> > > > will help students like me to learn.

> > > > ( please tell me JR Readers what he is asking here how

can

> one

> > > > judge ?)

> > > > > Also, these "jyotish" reasons from father's

perspective,

> > mother's

> > > > perspective and from unmarried mother's perspective.

> > > > >

> > > > > I look forward to learn from your experience.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > >

> > > > My reply to Him

> > > >

> > > > Kind Sir in this mail I have not mentioned about any

chart or

> sins

> > > > to be seen from any such natives chart,neither any

> perspective

> > from

> > > > any maternal or paternal source.,nor about astro

reasoning.

> > > > I know You to be a knowledgable person Yourself and

folding

> hands

> > > > before You, believe that it can be the other way round,

that

> I can

> > > > learn from You anytime. You may please consider me a

student.

> > > >

> > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > His reply to the above mail.

> > > >

> > > > Sir

> > > >

> > > > I thought it is astro forum !! Is not it? That is why, I

> > requested

> > > > for astro

> > > > factors.

> > > >

> > > > The best part of vedic astrology forum is that, it is

very

> well

> > > > moderated and

> > > > focused on astro discussions. Since, you seem to be quite

> > > experienced-

> > > > I

> > > > requested you to share your experience / knowledge. I was

not

> > > aware

> > > > that, you do

> > > > not have any astro data on it.

> > > >

> > > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > >

> > > > My reply to him which started all the trouble.

> > > >

> > > > Sir,

> > > >

> > > > Astro data required on what ?

> > > >

> > > > a) On Narad Muni being able to foretell previously about

Lord

> > > > Krishnas birth ?

> > > > b) about Jesus Christ coming as saviour ?

> > > > c) Hatya in womb consideredas sin according to Hindu

> cultures ?

> > > > d) No mother would consent voluntarily to abortion ?

> > > >

> > > > Data is required on above ?

> > > > I dont understand. Your questions in your last mail

asking

> for

> > Data

> > > > do not seem to be connected with the mail with which your

> mail was

> > > > attached.

> > > >

> > > > Another thing, we have no liability whatsover binding on

us to

> > > > provide data required by anyone on his request.

> > > > Also by not providing any Data it cannot be construed

that

> the

> > > poster

> > > > does not have astro-data.

> > > > It may also be there that he does not want to enter into

> > > unnecessary

> > > > arguments as I have hinted in my other mail to a

gentleman.

> > > > It may also be there that my time I would like to spending

> > > > making predictions rather than pointless discussions

leading

> to

> > > > nowhere,creating rifts or making persons loose

friendships,

> > > > You know better.

> > > > Last full week I have not entered into any arguments, on

> > > > Jyotish remedies Forum , and the results can be seen in

the

> > number

> > > of

> > > > predictions made to the querists.

> > > >

> > > > Again, please be aware that I am always open to Data

providing

> > > > wherever possible, and when situation demands and if

cause is

> > > > educational and also if it comes as a request.

> > > > Any hitting at any person enveloped in form as request is

well

> > > > understood by people over here.

> > > >

> > > > I once again fold hands and request You to please treat

me as

> your

> > > > student and teach me all You can in astrology, for me to

> progress

> > > and

> > > > not in any manner be any cause for my degress.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Prashantkumar G B

> >

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