THE TRUTH -----NOT FAIR TO OVER DO IT 2/9 p3

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Sumit,

u said what i have too but got stuck that there is money around so i get a invite on VJ to moderate...!

and I had also stopped Bhaskars 3 mails on JS for which Siddarth sharma is owner and moderator is Rishav, Rishav and i had a short dual too so how can he give me any role on this good/bad no way and if replies r uploaded by someone making money and moderators having a cut is the inference it is a big joke.

I DON'T WANT TO STRETCH THIS FURTHER as it is not the intention my intention is like what Sumit also said astrology is supreme not individuals collectively we can make it brighter.

Jyotishya is about jothi/ LIGHT

 

Sumit Bajaj <sumitbajaj2000 > wrote: Dear ALL Friends,

When I had joined this forum I didnt know that these mails are also circulated and differences happens in forum. I would like to pray to all that lets not throw mud on anyone. Lets not write anything except for good cause and help for others. Lets spread this beautiful knowledge of Astrology to all and learn and not to question other peoples capability. If WE all work in cohesion the astrology groups will be a force to reckon with.

May God Bless ALL.

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Shri Prashant Sahab,

Namste,

Sir when You are not gulty then why are you hurt ?

My mail was not intended for you or any of the good astrologers

working over here.It was certainly meant for the other lot.

Have I not been doing some little service here and do I not know that

there is no money here for grabbing ?

Sir instead of taking me on, why not take those who have incited me

unnecessarily in ouster from VA, or this Maniv who we dont know,

who unnecessarily used sarcasm on me ? Why not a word to him ?

Sir please stand by right ideals, and judgemental one should be

without any bias towards any one.

When You say that here money is not there then why were my 3 replies

to natives on Jyotish Shastra (One to a lady who was not having

children for 11 years-Baby Hansiini) were moderated and not allowed

to be posted ?

I believe You are the moderator there.

I am not pointing fingers, but certainly we cannot deny that potential

is definitely there for astrologers to earn if they know the right

business tactics.

If money is not there why are being people invited to other Forums /

Why are websites given to them or people asked to write on their

private e mail ids ?

Sir I can prove all this, but am not here to change the world,

so I keep quiet.

You are siding Maniv and showing sympathy for him, but did you ask

him why he had to write such stuff about me ?

He said that " once again " You have said that You will stop writing.

which means that I have said before but started writing again.

Sir so what great crime has been done on my part ?

Even Lord NarSimhadeva was pacified by Bhakta Prahladafter

Hiranykashyapu

was killed by Him. So what to speak of us ordinary mortals, if few

good friends come, do some praising, make requests to come back, dont

we change our mind and once again become normal ?

I am member at at least 22 Jyotish Forums here out of total 250, but

surely not writing on any one since last two days.

Please Sir I request You not to make a punching bag of someone at

times also be a proper judge and then decide the punishment.

affectionately,

Bhaskar.

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

>

> Bhaskar,

>

> this is sad that it is being said a few times once u said this to

arjun-ji [later t chellappa did to arjun ji] and Siam paccific Kumar

also said this in ur Re welcome thread that people r jealous of

their income being reduced if anyone else comes and that is absurd

>

> Ashutosh ji has clearly said this apart from me on this that few

really pay, I hope someone will really come up and say there is

chance to make money here NO WAY of the 6k members here 5-9 astros

max 5 avg write and u were also there in 2 months I am here from 7

months surely can tell there is no money to me made here if that is

the objective surely people will be disappointed sure.

>

> I came here when a friend said there is a group where

discussions are thee saw the trend for a few days and a few good

students and some senior exchange good threads and felt I can put

some of my 26 yr experience also to some use if it helps their

learning curve we did not have these and sheer glory of the subject

keeps me here no other consideration. a lamp can light many lams

without loosing its glow but gives more light tot the room, this

mus be and surely is the mood here. NOT MONEY surely if any one has

made money let Bhakar know privately at least how much can be made.

>

> AND WHAT SPEAKS FOR US IS WHAT WE SHARE, GIVE HERE, anything that

comes ur way say recognition, name, fame at times so odd paid

reading some have surely you cant survive on this if it is a plan

for anyone.

>

> I posted a mail on 26th about what i made here also it stands.

>

> Maniv i am sure isa reader here max not seen him post replies so

what way willl his income be lost....? so take time u need not reply

to any such thread but work on charts it wil take u where u want to.

>

> PLEASE RESPECT THE SUBJECT AND THE PEOPLE BEHIND IT, anything

that you do say to hurt other astros will also hurt you if u remain

in the astro field as WHAT GOES AROUND COMES COMES AROUND....!

>

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote: Maniv,

>

> Yes I am true to my words, I have stopped writing on all the

Forums,

> since the day I mentioned that. Yesterday one Notice was given

> to all of You so that few like you may get the required happiness,

> about my ouster from VA, and the other mail given to Mr.Ganeshji

was

> by mistake posted on the Forum instead of going directly.,to him.

>

> I have not written to a single native here asking for help,dont

worry,

> I leave all business for You and will not give free service, I

will

> not make any losses to your or your lot, rest assure.

>

> Do not provoke me into writing anything further.

> Whenever that is done, I will strike back,I am not away,

> just behind the screen.

>

> Bhaskar.

>

> , "maniv1321" <maniv1321@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hello again Mr.Bhaskar

> >

> > Didn't you announce a few days ago that you had decided (once

> > again!) to stop posting on these forums?

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Maniv

> >

> > , "Bhaskar"

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Learned Members and Friends ,

> > >

> > > This is to inform You all that I have been unceremoniuosly

> > debarred

> > > from the Vedic Astrology Group today,

> > > and without any intimation, notice or chance to explain.

> > >

> > > Last evening I was advised by a good member and supporter,

who

> > told

> > > me that since the member and

> > > moderator/owner in question are known to each other since 15

> years

> > > You will not have a chance to stay here.

> > > and that has what happened .

> > >

> > > I congratulate Shri Prafullaji on his articulate way of

pushing

> me

> > > out of there.

> > > Also I have already given Public Apology to him on that Forum

> > which

> > > was not my liability

> > > but a chance taken and used to clear all misgivings between

us.

> > > But unfortunately it was taken as a weak step.

> > >

> > > I would request You allto go through the first few mails

copied

> > > belowwhich will clearly show that

> > > I was not the one who was interested in communication but was

> > forced

> > > to.

> > >

> > > I knew from the first instance that I am being taken for a

ride

> > when

> > > he first entered my

> > > thread with Goldenballs., but could not get myself out of it.

> > >

> > > Anway I wanted to ask you that if he has had problems with me

> here

> > > and had to give Public apology

> > > to me, then how come he wanted to learn from me as a student

and

> > gain

> > > knowledge ,and why would he be interested in discussing with

me

> > > technically ?

> > >

> > > This clearly shows his mal intentions at time of entering my

> > thread.

> > >

> > > I have given only first few copy of mails ,for you to please

> check

> > > and see yourself that I have tried to get out of this

situation,

> > but

> > > was forced into it, for what ,I think you understand very

well.

> > >

> > > Dear well wishers of JR, I have been too polite with him at

times

> > > which has been taken as some sort of

> > > weakness on my part . If he wishes I am ready to fight till

the

> > last.

> > > He is mistaken if he thinks that he is dealing

> > > with a paper tiger. I have nothing to loose as I am always

with

> > > righteousness. Now many mails will foloow

> > > and I will not be a silent spectator for any wroing I have

not

> > done.

> > >

> > >

> > > My first mail to Golden balls and not to Mr. Prafulla.

> > >

> > >

> > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:10:37 -0000

> > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Involuntary, Voluntary

> > Decisions on

> > > > > Abortions ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Golden...,

> > > > >

> > > > > I have started gradually to like your views and second

them.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) Ordinary souls like us may not know when a special

soul is

> > > > > repeatedly trying to enter a womb or has already entered

or is

> > > going

> > > > > to enter in future.Only elevated personalties can foresee

> that.

> > > > > In case of Lord Krishna it was already foretold by Narada

Muni

> > > when

> > > > > and to whom LordKrishna is going to be born.

> > > > > In case of Infant Jesus too the elavated souls of that

time

> > knew

> > > > > due to the positions of the stars inthe sky at that time

and

> > also

> > > due

> > > > > to their being spiritually advanced,that The Son of God

is

> > going

> > > to

> > > > > arrive at a particular direction and a particular place.

(By

> the

> > > way

> > > > > Christianity did support astrology exceptin last few

> centuries

> > due

> > > > > to Medieval uphevals astrology was proclamied to be the

work

> of

> > > Satan

> > > > > and witchcraft etc. and among this community it was the

> > practised

> > > > > behind closed doors and still majority do not believe

> > > unfortunately)

> > > > >

> > > > > 2)Hatya in womb is definitely considered as sin according

to

> > Hindu

> > > > > cultures and almost all cultures who are still left

religious.

> > > > >

> > > > > 3)You are right voluntarily no sane mother would consent

to

> > > abortion

> > > > > unless the reasons you mentioned or others force her to

abort.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > >

> > > Mr.Prafulla now enters the picture here.

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, Prafulla Gang

<jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > If you have experienced such charts - may you please share

your

> > > experience / "astro" reasons for such "sins" in any native's

> > chart. I

> > > will appreciate, if you may share with some charts or

references.

> > It

> > > will help students like me to learn.

> > > ( please tell me JR Readers what he is asking here how can

one

> > > judge ?)

> > > > Also, these "jyotish" reasons from father's perspective,

> mother's

> > > perspective and from unmarried mother's perspective.

> > > >

> > > > I look forward to learn from your experience.

> > > >

> > > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >

> > > My reply to Him

> > >

> > > Kind Sir in this mail I have not mentioned about any chart or

sins

> > > to be seen from any such natives chart,neither any

perspective

> from

> > > any maternal or paternal source.,nor about astro reasoning.

> > > I know You to be a knowledgable person Yourself and folding

hands

> > > before You, believe that it can be the other way round, that

I can

> > > learn from You anytime. You may please consider me a student.

> > >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > > His reply to the above mail.

> > >

> > > Sir

> > >

> > > I thought it is astro forum !! Is not it? That is why, I

> requested

> > > for astro

> > > factors.

> > >

> > > The best part of vedic astrology forum is that, it is very

well

> > > moderated and

> > > focused on astro discussions. Since, you seem to be quite

> > experienced-

> > > I

> > > requested you to share your experience / knowledge. I was not

> > aware

> > > that, you do

> > > not have any astro data on it.

> > >

> > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >

> > > My reply to him which started all the trouble.

> > >

> > > Sir,

> > >

> > > Astro data required on what ?

> > >

> > > a) On Narad Muni being able to foretell previously about Lord

> > > Krishnas birth ?

> > > b) about Jesus Christ coming as saviour ?

> > > c) Hatya in womb consideredas sin according to Hindu

cultures ?

> > > d) No mother would consent voluntarily to abortion ?

> > >

> > > Data is required on above ?

> > > I dont understand. Your questions in your last mail asking

for

> Data

> > > do not seem to be connected with the mail with which your

mail was

> > > attached.

> > >

> > > Another thing, we have no liability whatsover binding on us to

> > > provide data required by anyone on his request.

> > > Also by not providing any Data it cannot be construed that

the

> > poster

> > > does not have astro-data.

> > > It may also be there that he does not want to enter into

> > unnecessary

> > > arguments as I have hinted in my other mail to a gentleman.

> > > It may also be there that my time I would like to spending

> > > making predictions rather than pointless discussions leading

to

> > > nowhere,creating rifts or making persons loose friendships,

> > > You know better.

> > > Last full week I have not entered into any arguments, on

> > > Jyotish remedies Forum , and the results can be seen in the

> number

> > of

> > > predictions made to the querists.

> > >

> > > Again, please be aware that I am always open to Data providing

> > > wherever possible, and when situation demands and if cause is

> > > educational and also if it comes as a request.

> > > Any hitting at any person enveloped in form as request is well

> > > understood by people over here.

> > >

> > > I once again fold hands and request You to please treat me as

your

> > > student and teach me all You can in astrology, for me to

progress

> > and

> > > not in any manner be any cause for my degress.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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