Sacrfice to the god of Ignorance (for Rick and all)

[Guest guest]

Namaste Rick,

 

You've addressed the issue eloquently. The key to Knowledge is

tolerance of other people's beliefs. There is no need to eradicate

people to achieve one's own objectives or validate one's own belief

system.

 

In my opinion, the majority of the people with deep faith in their

own religions recognize the need for tolerance. It is only the

mistaken few that make life a living hell. The question now is how

do the sane people of the world cope with those who choose

destruction?

 

Perhaps, this is the reason why the Gita has mentioned that a great

Teacher will come to the world when dharma is alarmingly low. It is

conceivable that the teacher need not be a single individual. But

the Teacher could be the collective consciousness of people with

higher levels of Understanding.

 

Nonetheless, Aurobindo seemed to think that it is possible for one

human being to break through the barrier of ignorance. I believe he

died without seeing anyone qualifying for his ideal person.

 

Along this same line, Teilhard Chardin believed in the evolution of

mankind towards divinity.

 

But then again, one can also interpret the vedic shastras to say that

the divinity is readily available to everyone. This would mean that

humans are already the best product that Nature could provide. That

is to say that we are the result of Nature's work or evolution from

matter to self-consciousness, which is the masterpiece of the entire

creation of the universe. It is just unfortunate that most people

have not awakened to this fact.

 

So, the cycle goes on and on...to paraphrase the words of Quoheleth

from the Old Testament...'everything is vanity under the sun'.

 

Regards,

 

John R.

 

 

 

 

 

valist, Das Goravani <> wrote:

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>

> In Old Rome, before Christ, there were many religions, because

there were

> people in Rome from all over the Euro continent, Africa, Egypt,

Greece, etc

> etc., and all of their various religions and Gods were accepted.

Indeed,

> even the Emporer at times practiced a religion other than the usual

Roman

> beliefs, such as Caligula, who was Syrian or something, and

worshipped the

> Sun in a very unusual way, carrying a large black stone while

walking

> backwards during the midday sun.

>

> Tolerance. There was Tolerance, and Diversity. It was OK. It was

also the

> Roman practice to leave religions well enough alone. According to

Julius

> Caesar, the only thing they stopped up North when they conquered

Gaul was

> the human sacrifice practice.

>

> Then came Christ, who of course, taught Judaism Plus.

>

> This was the first time Rome found itself facing a Cult who

believed and

> tried to teach, that they were THE ONE, the ONE and ONLY TRUTH.

This was a

> bit shocking to Rome at the time. It was the reason ultimately

that Rome

> had to take this religion on. It was teaching intolerance and was

against

> the usual diversity of Rome. It had a selfish attitude, after all,

it came

> from a people who believed they alone were special in the eyes of

God.

> Everybody else was to be saved, or damned.

>

> Islam of course follows suit, in a bigger way actually, as they

actually go

> ahead and kill the non-believers at times.

>

> The Judeo-Christian-Islamic triumverate is to blame for a lot of the

> ignorance and intolerance of our modern times. Getting rid of such

> primitive beliefs in this modern age would do the world a lot of

good.

>

> I am totally sick of these people, Jews, Muslims, Christians, seeing

> themselves as enemies of each other, engaging in costly, deadly wars

> constantly. It¹s so stupid. This Jihad and Allah¹s Martyrs and

Holy

> Wars...it¹s a load of egoistic feces. They use our guns, our cell

phones,

> our cars, and call us bad. It¹s so stupid, I can¹t believe it.

>

> I¹ve been one, so I know- Religious leaders are nothing but

egotists who

> don¹t want to be ³one of the masses², which is where the real

spirituality

> begins...in being small, one of, just one of, in the flow of the

whole, not

> special, not unique, not saved, not going to be saved, not dear to

God, a

> soul in a body, just like everybody else, that¹s all, nothing

more. Osama

> is not Holy, neither is Sai Baba, Amma, Prabhupada, nobody. All

land is

> Holy, so there is no ³Holy Land², because it¹s ALL holy. FORGET

about Mecca,

> Jerusalem, Vrndavan, Ayodhya, Dwaraka, etc. That¹s all a bunch of

> superstition only.

>

> The fact is we don¹t know God, we don¹t know where we¹re from or

why we¹re

> here, and Mohammad was probably just another egotist, with a grudge

against

> his wife and other more engaged people in Mecca and Medina, and he

was just

> getting back at everybody.

>

> Shia, Suni, Persian, Jew, Christian, all a bunch of useless

designations

> that are born of ego only, that do nothing for the holders of

same. They¹re

> all humans, and what they really need is food, water, air, peace

and some

> hobbies. That¹s it.

>

> Peace

>

> Rick

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[Guest guest]

Gosh, I am sorry to be new and to be posting so much but I am very

excited by this group. Plus I have learned that if I don't act when the

spirit moves me, well, I don't act! So thanks to John for his great

post. I especially liked his last few lines. Wow. Those words put

into concrete language what has been swimming around in my mind!

 

Thank you,

Karen []

--- John wrote:

> So, the cycle goes on and on...to paraphrase the words of Quoheleth

> from the Old Testament...'everything is vanity under the sun'.