Astrologers, Jyotishis, friends: Moderators

[Guest guest]

Dear Friends,

Since the moderators on this group provide the members a lot of

freedom, the individual responibility of the members increase too.

For the moderation needs to come from within you.

This may appear like a lecture, it is infact a lecture, you may like

it or not.

In this forum, the amount of selfcentredness shown by the astrologers

is nothing strange. We are all selfcentred. It is the "I" which is

important. "I" need to prove "I" am right, knowledgable and wise.

We have "professional" astrologers who keep talking about 'free' and

paid readings and invariably it is lamented that people want free

readings.

We have friends coming here in multiple identities, provoking, asking

questions and answering the same questions.

We have cases of individual oneupmanship and apologies of all sorts

get thrown around with no real intention of apologising.

Who is fooling whom?

Or who is trying to prove what?

I do not think we are here to test jyotisha knowledge or give space

to prove expertise.

I do not think we are here to give space to professional astrologers

to provide charity in terms of the socalled free readings.

I would request members to reduce their vanity or ahamkar. The

astrologer is not important, astrology or jyotisha is.

I would also request that please keep in mind that there is natural

justice in this world, and each time you say or write something and

not mean it you are adding some negative Karma to your ledger.

Be true to yourself.

There is a need that your Vaani, Vichar and Vyavhar be the same. Your

though, words and deeds be the same. Atleast on this forum if you

cant practise it in the real world.

The moderation should come within you. Apologies, genuine or apparent

do not wipe away your own act.

I write this all as an ordinary member who has many a times felt to

quietly go away from this forum as many before me have left.

 

With regards,

Rishi

M

[Guest guest]

Dear Rishi ji,

 

You made an excellent post (though difficult to be complied in my observation) !!. Rishi, I must salute you, for your fulfillment of "forum" Dharma.

 

I was shocked to observe the insensitivity of members in the thread of Shri Neeraj(his wife's death). Learned members were busy discussing their own defence (instead of apologising for wrong readings). Perhaps - it was difficult choice for them, but not the appropriate and courteous one.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of knowledge, but rather a lack of will.

[Guest guest]

Prafullaji,

I have said what I had to.

It is up to the forum members to find their own truth with respect

to themselves.

regards

 

rishi

 

, Prafulla Gang <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Rishi ji,

>

> You made an excellent post (though difficult to be complied in my

observation) !!. Rishi, I must salute you, for your fulfillment

of "forum" Dharma.

>

> I was shocked to observe the insensitivity of members in the

thread of Shri Neeraj(his wife's death). Learned members were busy

discussing their own defence (instead of apologising for wrong

readings). Perhaps - it was difficult choice for them, but not the

appropriate and courteous one.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> The difference between a successful person and others is not a

lack of knowledge, but rather a lack of will.

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr.Rishi ,

 

Apologies- meant or unmeant is easily known by the readers as it is

intended by the person who gives the apology.

At times when a person is scathed and character assasinated, either

the person who is on receiving end retaliates or else retreats

by giving public apology. The reason is well realised as said, by the

readers. Any of the side may be at fault here,one who apologises

or one to whom apology is given. Discretion is upto reader.

But the matter of fact is that the issue has to be ended, before

it goes worser. So the intentions have to be seen and not the way

how it is done.

 

My request to people would be that instead of harping on the

right or wrong conduct of a person who is already being victimised,

why not take on the perpetrators? That would be more in style of a

gentleman and expected from a educated person ,if one is.

 

Any one who is going out of line we should have the guts to take

upon, and not just bang a person who is already fallen on the ground

by constant provocation by the...... We should support the person who

is trying to get up and not further be instrumental on his falling

down.

 

Most of us would like to go away from here, but the feeling is there,

that maybe something can be offered from ones side, and also some

blessings may come if not material does not matter, plus love for the

subject,etc.

I like most of your posts, somehow this did not seem to convey proper

justice. Anyway I respect you and would not like to enter in any

controversial issue with you.,so will stay off. Rather on better

things.

 

regards,

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

, "rishi_2000in"

<rishi_2000in wrote:

>

> Dear Friends,

> Since the moderators on this group provide the members a lot of

> freedom, the individual responibility of the members increase too.

> For the moderation needs to come from within you.

> This may appear like a lecture, it is infact a lecture, you may

like

> it or not.

> In this forum, the amount of selfcentredness shown by the

astrologers

> is nothing strange. We are all selfcentred. It is the "I" which is

> important. "I" need to prove "I" am right, knowledgable and wise.

> We have "professional" astrologers who keep talking about 'free'

and

> paid readings and invariably it is lamented that people want free

> readings.

> We have friends coming here in multiple identities, provoking,

asking

> questions and answering the same questions.

> We have cases of individual oneupmanship and apologies of all sorts

> get thrown around with no real intention of apologising.

> Who is fooling whom?

> Or who is trying to prove what?

> I do not think we are here to test jyotisha knowledge or give space

> to prove expertise.

> I do not think we are here to give space to professional

astrologers

> to provide charity in terms of the socalled free readings.

> I would request members to reduce their vanity or ahamkar. The

> astrologer is not important, astrology or jyotisha is.

> I would also request that please keep in mind that there is natural

> justice in this world, and each time you say or write something and

> not mean it you are adding some negative Karma to your ledger.

> Be true to yourself.

> There is a need that your Vaani, Vichar and Vyavhar be the same.

Your

> though, words and deeds be the same. Atleast on this forum if you

> cant practise it in the real world.

> The moderation should come within you. Apologies, genuine or

apparent

> do not wipe away your own act.

> I write this all as an ordinary member who has many a times felt to

> quietly go away from this forum as many before me have left.

>

> With regards,

> Rishi

> M

>

[Guest guest]

Bhaskarji,

 

 

As I said, I have said what I had to.

Each one of us has to find his/her own truth.

Let me add this prayer, I have posted this earlier too:

 

Deliver me, O Jesus

 

>From the desire of being loved,

>From the desire of being extolled,

>From the desire of being honoured,

>From the desire of being praised,

>From the desire of being preferred,

>From the desire of being consulted,

>From the desire of being approved,

>From the desire of being popular,

 

>From the fear of being of being humiliated,

>From the fear of being despised,

>From the fear of suffering rebukes,

>From the fear of being slandered,

>From the fear of being forgotten,

from the fear of being wronged,

>From the fear of being ridiculed,

>From the fear of being suspected.

 

And, Jesus, grant me the grace

to desire that others might be loved more than I,

That others might be more esteemed than I,

That in the opinion of the world,

others may increase and I decrease,

That others may be chosen and I set aside,

That others may be preferred to me in everything,

That others may become holier than I,

provided I become as holy as I should.

 

(Mother Theresa, A Simple Path.)

24-01-2002

 

regards

 

rishi