Message to Forum! JYOTISH IS DYING? 8/9

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Dear RRji,

well the numbers of members may rise but most of them r answer/s seekers, readers/s, some of them I am sure all those who handle the chart reading will have a share of some indiviudals writing directly from my experience so if u cadd some 10 astros here and at least each getting 10 private chats, reading req then we goa step higher than 14-15...

but YEST THE subject is sliding as now people want all instant solutions be it marriage or divorce, jobs or business so if astrology shows them some time to wait then they will still take the plunge max blame astrlogy or some will do anyway. the value systems has been shrinking in all areas of life so the need to seek organised help, direction in this CHAOTIC world will dwindle.

the BEST TESTIMONIAL is the roads/traffic in our cities- people dont drive on the left side of the road but `WHAT is left of the road, they squueze in every possible space and clog the movement of everyone else.

in flow its sheer chaos if u come home alive u must thank ur stars....

 

crystal pages <jyotish_vani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Rishi ji!

As long as it is not my 'toes', Sir ;-)

Seriously, though, dear friends, we are (Thank you Tanveer et al!)

5000+ strong and have worked on and around each other's corns and so

on.

We know each others' sensitive spots on this forum (After all, only a

few dozens really have the time or interest to interact and post here

and care to read other participants' posts!) so I really fail to see

why so much angst has been spilling lately despite some very wise and

accomplished participation, like those offered by Arjunji,

Ashutoshji, Prafulla, Rishi, Tatvamasiji, Prashantji,etc (where is

Vattam Krishnanji? Anyone know of dear Krishnan ji? I do miss him

so!!). And I am sure many others, over the years that may just be

lurking (internet jargon, not to be taken literally!).

When 5000 show up and only 15 post, it tells me plain and simple one

thing!

***Jyotish is DYING, if not already dead!***

PROVE ME WRONG!! I DARE YOU ALL, VOCAL AND RETICENT ONES!!

RR

, "rishi_2000in"

<rishi_2000in wrote:

>

> Prafullaji,

> That is the 'spin and the span' of Ranjanji's Jyotisha writings,

one

> has to be on toes always!

> rishi

>

> , "crystal pages"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > You are very kind, but for me *this* has always been the reality

> that

> > I want it to be.

> >

> > If it has not served **my** dreams, maybe I was the one who was

> > distracted!

> >

> > This may not necessarily be your yard-stick or personal

> experience,

> > Prafulla!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , "Prafulla Gang"

> > <jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ranjan ji,

> > >

> > > Honest confession - Sometimes, I feel it is worth being selfish

> (?)

> > > and learn the useful & rare lessons from you. I feel myself

> lucky

> > for

> > > your presence here and in fact, I Joined / resumed this, only

> for

> > your

> > > presence.

> > >

> > > You are absolutely right..It is jyotish forum, not the forum to

> > > discuss religious practices. I just happen to respond to such

non

> > > jyotish threads. Unfortunately, this jyotish forum is fading its

> > > charm, for variety of practices. I wish, forum members can

> realize

> > > this that there are hardly jyotish discussions on this forum.

> This

> > has

> > > become market place.

> > >

> > > regards / Prafulla

> > >

> > > , "crystal pages"

> > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Prafulla,

> > > >

> > > > We grew up to come to jyotish to learn not about karma as

> being

> > the

> > > > tree that is way bigger than us, at this time, and

> > insurmountable,

> > > > but to also see the mangoes that the tree is laden with! Some

> > ripe,

> > > > others not! The ripe ones we juice for immediate pleasure and

> > succour

> > > > and the unripe ones we pickle with patience for future

> > (lifetimes)!

> > > >

> > > > And all this time we humans simply bow gratefully to the

Deity

> of

> > our

> > > > choice, in this lifetime -- thankful that it is a mango tree

> we

> > are

> > > > up against and not an oak tree or cactus, for obvious

reasons!!

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > , "Prafulla Gang"

> > > > <jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Knowing jyotish a bit, I can only add that - perhaps all

> these

> > > > plights

> > > > > are karmic in nature!! Isn't it ? Unfortunately, it is

> > compunding.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > > >

> > > > > , "panditarjun2004"

> > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear prafullaji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > you have observed in one of your mails that brahmins have

> > grabbed

> > > > > > cows, lands etc. and exploited all. this can best be

> > described

> > > > as

> > > > > > your personal observation as it is not a fact.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > in public groups, many members strive to put forth their

> > personal

> > > > > > views as they observe in their experience and

> understanding

> > and

> > > > > > expect general acceptance. in reality many such

> observations

> > are

> > > > > > aberrations seen in isolation.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > let me put some facts which none can deny:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > centuries ago brahmins never worked for a salary or

> offered

> > any

> > > > > > service for a living. they used to fix muhurtams for ALL

> > people

> > > > in

> > > > > > their areas, do karmakanda for ALL people and impart holy

> > > > knowledge

> > > > > > and discourses to ALL besides maintaining the holiness of

> the

> > > > > > sanctum sanctorum of the temples and other places of

> > > > consecration.

> > > > > > kings, panchayat presidents or local landlords used to

> offer

> > land

> > > > > > freely to these brahmins and also food grains and a cow.

> in

> > all

> > > > > > karmakandas or for any auspicious happy occasions, they

> are

> > > > gifted

> > > > > > few items, clothes, money etc. and all such brahmins used

> to

> > live

> > > > > > 100% on donations given by the people VOLUNTARILY. these

> > > > brahmins

> > > > > > also used to write books, teach the children of ALL

people

> > and

> > > > > > entertain with their lyrical, music and dance skills

> > > > > >

> > > > > > however, with the pogrom and forced conversion to islam

by

> > the

> > > > > > invading moghuls, brahmins have taken up jobs like

> teaching.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > later on in the last few decades with the rise of

> communism

> > and

> > > > > > patronage by the left parties (it is a different matter

> that

> > the

> > > > > > best communist country russia is now full of churches and

> > > > leningrad

> > > > > > becomes st. petersberg and many schools turn back to

> churches

> > but

> > > > > > the indian counterparts still engage in anti religious

> > propaganda)

> > > > > > brahmins have been removed even from the posts of

poojaris

> as

> > > > some

> > > > > > state governemnts have started recruiting low caste non

> > brahmins

> > > > > > unaware of any religious rituals for these holy jobs.

> most

> > civil

> > > > > > servants decades ago used to be brahmins and now due to

> > > > reservation,

> > > > > > around 90% of government employees are non brahmins.

> still a

> > > > large

> > > > > > hue and cry is made every day for the success of these

> > brahmins.

> > > > > > seeing the poor plight of these brahmins in minority,

> > sometime

> > > > ago

> > > > > > mulayamsingh offered to consider a 5% reservation for

> > brahmins.

> > > > > > within my family clan, we have great freedom fighters,

> > headmaster

> > > > > > and principals, poets, astrologers, doctors of most

repute

> in

> > US

> > > > and

> > > > > > 100% younger generation are in most successful in IT,

> > engineering

> > > > or

> > > > > > medicine profession and it is no exaggeration if i say

> that

> > 99%

> > > > of

> > > > > > these younger intelligent generation are in US.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > in many cities you would find poor brahmins who have not

> > switched

> > > > to

> > > > > > other intelligent professions are still languishing in

> > poverty.

> > > > > > every morning i find dozens of karmakandi brahmins

> standing

> > or

> > > > > > sitting on the footpath of the road in front of the

> railway

> > > > station

> > > > > > waiting for some customers to pick them for their daily

> > wages.

> > > > this

> > > > > > is only because they have not adapted to the professions

> > which

> > > > are

> > > > > > in belief as on date and are sticking to a century old

> holy

> > noble

> > > > > > profession which is not only ridiculed by the so called

> > educated

> > > > > > scientists but also painted bad by the communists.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > having seen all this, i took it as a challenge for myself

> to

> > > > leave

> > > > > > my lucrative best mnc jobs and serve all the suffering

> people

> > > > > > through our religious holy ways and most of my customers

> are

> > non

> > > > > > brahmins and many are from other religions as i treat all

> > human

> > > > > > beings equally as god.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > prafullaji, your observation may be restricted to few

> > individuals

> > > > at

> > > > > > best, but to say that KARMAKANDI BRAHMINS exploited all

is

> > far

> > > > from

> > > > > > truth.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > in delhi i have seen many bihari non-brahmin migrant

> > illiterate

> > > > > > workers posing as poojaris and cheating the customers.

in

> > some

> > > > > > temples, the watchmen and sweepers of yesteryears are now

> > > > poojaris

> > > > > > in the same temples which were built only for

landgrabbing

> > and to

> > > > > > construct shops on all three sides and sell them for huge

> > > > monies.

> > > > > > most or all of thee landgrabbing mafias and illegal

> > construction

> > > > are

> > > > > > done by non-brahmins.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > with best wishes

> > > > > > pandit arjun

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , "crystal pages"

> > > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Personally ...?

> > > > > > > Dear Prafulla,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am born with just so few neurons, so few abilities,

so

> > few

> > > > > > options,

> > > > > > > such a little time and scope to live this lifetime!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Do we have the time and ability and luxury of living

the

> > > > reality

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > others who would impose on us their (?) reality and

> waste

> > the

> > > > > > little

> > > > > > > time we have in this lifetime?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Are they even worth the consideration, after what we

> have

> > seen

> > > > so

> > > > > > far?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , "Prafulla

Gang"

> > > > > > > <jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Ranjan ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Very well said.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I, perhaps could not express the distinction (between

> > relgion

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > its

> > > > > > > > practioners). It is not the rituals (or belief

> systems)

> > > > itself,

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > commenting about. They are "pure and acceptable" for

> each

> > > > belief

> > > > > > > > system / religion. I am not talking about

> > rationalization of

> > > > > > some

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > these systems; and agree that they can not be black

or

> > white

> > > > in

> > > > > > it.

> > > > > > > > These are based on faith, so rationalization (for

> common

> > > > person

> > > > > > like

> > > > > > > > me) may be little too far stretching of it.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The gray area is its practioners (for each belief

> > system) -

> > > > who,

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > commercial/ vested interests, misuses people's

> > very "faith".

> > > > and

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > turn, creates lots of difficulties in the life of

> masses.

> > For

> > > > > > > Example

> > > > > > > > - Various ritualistic charities to brahmins (cows

etc)

> in

> > > > India

> > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > been the biggest cause of sufferings in rural India -

> > where

> > > > > > people

> > > > > > > > borrow money to meet such ritualistic needs

(including

> on

> > > > deaths

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > the family). These have led to massive exploitation

as

> > well by

> > > > > > > > "karamkandi" brahmans, in the name of religion.

> Religion

> > > > never

> > > > > > > becomes

> > > > > > > > source or cause of exploitation, but its practioners

> do

> > cause

> > > > > > some

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > the wrong doings. Had these practices not surfaced in

> > India -

> > > > > > > perhaps,

> > > > > > > > there was no need to religious diversions (like

> Jainism,

> > > > Budhism,

> > > > > > > > Sikhisms, Arya Samaj etc).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Purans / vedas / religious scriptures are not

> corrupted,

> > its

> > > > > > > > practioners are. Since "faith" itself is exploited,

> its

> > > > > > compliance

> > > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > becomes "gainful" for few. But those quality brahmans

> > also do

> > > > not

> > > > > > > > exist in numbers and those people who can understand

> the

> > > > rituals

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > true sense also have their own limitations in current

> > yuga.

> > > > This

> > > > > > > often

> > > > > > > > leads to misunderstood compliances of the rituals, in

> > most

> > > > cases

> > > > > > > > (which is more harmful). Just attend any yagya, and

> > observe

> > > > > > > the "short

> > > > > > > > cuts" followed - in the name of conveniences.

> Charities

> > are

> > > > > > > collected,

> > > > > > > > land mafias uses these sentiments to grab huge lands,

> > people

> > > > on

> > > > > > day

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > day life are asked to do x/y/z for next life for the

> > benefits

> > > > > > > of "few"

> > > > > > > > and so on.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > People know all these practices as well, but

> > somehow "fear"

> > > > > > created

> > > > > > > > for "next life", makes them vulnerable for

> exploitation.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , "crystal

> pages"

> > > > > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Prafulla,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > There will always be some 'mixing' between

different

> > belief

> > > > > > > systems,

> > > > > > > > > let us for instance take jyotish and rituals

> > (karmakanda as

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > pointed out, though the rituals can further extend

> into

> > > > grey

> > > > > > > magic

> > > > > > > > > and black magic etc). Individuals of different

> > background

> > > > > > > (religious,

> > > > > > > > > cultural, educational etc) will have different

> > tolerances

> > > > or

> > > > > > > > > acceptances of belief systems and the 'degree of

> > > > acceptance'

> > > > > > > > > or "degree of tolerance" would vary. No one would

> > really be

> > > > > > > > > completely rational ever by someone else's

standards

> > (this

> > > > is

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > general statement, so no reader should take it

> > personally).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > A rationalist would have a certain degree or

> perimeter

> > of

> > > > > > belief

> > > > > > > > > which may be rather restricted but more readily

> > > > demonstrable

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > rather black and white. As we move into

> > more 'accepting'

> > > > ways

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > thinking of reality, the perimeter would grow and

> the

> > > > horizon

> > > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > > become less and less sharp and more accpeting.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > When belief systems interact and clash, individuals

> > begin

> > > > to

> > > > > > > fight,

> > > > > > > > > because we all must hold on to our core beliefs in

> what

> > we

> > > > > > > consider

> > > > > > > > > reality which is generally very personal though

> there

> > are

> > > > > > enough

> > > > > > > > > commonalities which lead to formation of groups.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Beliefs are often at the very core of our sense of

> self

> > and

> > > > > > touch

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > stir emotions, more in some, less in others, but

> they

> > > > always

> > > > > > do.

> > > > > > > > > Jyotish falls in one of these perimeters where

> reason

> > and

> > > > > > beliefs

> > > > > > > > > meet. It has enough contact with rational and

> logical

> > > > > > > considerations

> > > > > > > > > and thus appeals to 'rationalists' or those who

like

> to

> > > > reason

> > > > > > > things

> > > > > > > > > out, and also has enough of a mystical/mysterious

> > flavour

> > > > to

> > > > > > > appeal

> > > > > > > > > to those whose acceptance of "reality" is more

> > forgiving.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Both of these groups are observers, not necessarily

> > knowers

> > > > or

> > > > > > > > > certainly not all knowing (hence humans!) and it is

> not

> > a

> > > > > > > question of

> > > > > > > > > right or wrong, necessarily. Only God perhaps knows

> > what is

> > > > > > true

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > what is not or right or wrong -- and I say that

> purely

> > > > based

> > > > > > on

> > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > personal belief ;-)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , "Prafulla

> > Gang"

> > > > > > > > > <jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun ji

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > It is the belief system and has little to do

> > > > with "Jyotish".

> > > > > > > > > > Nevertheless, there is very thin line between

> correct

> > > > (very

> > > > > > > small

> > > > > > > > > > population) and wrong ones (very large

> population).

> > The

> > > > > > issue

> > > > > > > is -

> > > > > > > > > > knowledge of correct rituals, for its

> > adherence..which is

> > > > > > > missing?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > People are exploited by "karamkandi" bhramans

> (even

> > on

> > > > > > events

> > > > > > > like

> > > > > > > > > > deaths), which raises the big question

on "purity"

> of

> > > > > > pursuits?

> > > > > > > Even

> > > > > > > > > > the people who are "known" in different cities in

> > India as

> > > > > > > > > > authorities, are just making this their whole

> > > > > > time "business".

> > > > > > > > > Almost

> > > > > > > > > > each temple, priests, remedial astrologers (???)

> have

> > > > made a

> > > > > > > big

> > > > > > > > > mess

> > > > > > > > > > of faith. No state or city is exception !!!!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Yes, you are right ..we must do and shall not

> bother

> > > > about

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > wrong

> > > > > > > > > > ones. I wish I could claim (unlike most), that I

> know

> > the

> > > > > > > correct

> > > > > > > > > Ones

> > > > > > > > > > !!!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > , "panditarjun2004"

> > > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > dear prafulla ji

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > your observation is true to some people or some

> > temples

> > > > > > who

> > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > doing this.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > for example, grahan is such a shadowy period

> that

> > it is

> > > > > > > believed

> > > > > > > > > > > that even gods shall not have that grahan

shadow

> > fall

> > > > on

> > > > > > > them.

> > > > > > > > > > > hence all temples are closed during the grahan

> > period,

> > > > > > nay,

> > > > > > > an

> > > > > > > > > > > additional cloth cover is kept as an umbrella

> for

> > the

> > > > > > divine

> > > > > > > idol

> > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > protect from the grahan shadow. however,

> kalahasti

> > > > temple

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > andhra

> > > > > > > > > > > pradesh is keeping the temple not only open

> during

> > the

> > > > > > grahan

> > > > > > > > > time

> > > > > > > > > > > but also doing special poojas AT MIDNIGHT

> (somewhat

> > > > > > strage)

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > collecting donations for these special poojas

> > during

> > > > the

> > > > > > > grahan

> > > > > > > > > time.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > since all these are expected in kaliyuga, we

> shall

> > keep

> > > > > > doing

> > > > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > > > > > is right without bothering too much about how

> > others

> > > > are

> > > > > > > doing.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes

> > > > > > > > > > > pandit arjun

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> , "Prafulla

> > > > Gang"

> > > > > > > > > > > <jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > If one has interacted with yogis - they will

> > > > explicitly

> > > > > > > tell

> > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > that,

> > > > > > > > > > > > any of the good charities can be done any

> given

> > day;

> > > > and

> > > > > > so

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > prayers. Not because that prayers / charities

> on

> > > > > > Eclipses

> > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > > lesser

> > > > > > > > > > > > relevance, but for the fact that, there are

> > > > very "few"

> > > > > > > people -

> > > > > > > > > who

> > > > > > > > > > > > knows / practices the correct and "puristic"

> > methods

> > > > of

> > > > > > > > > performing

> > > > > > > > > > > > them. and Such people spend most of their

time

> in

> > > > their

> > > > > > own

> > > > > > > > > > > pursuits

> > > > > > > > > > > > (they are too occupied in their "own karma").

> > Most in

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > lot

> > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > interested in making money ("Dukandari") from

> > event

> > > > > > driven

> > > > > > > > > > > rituals, in

> > > > > > > > > > > > every corner of the country on each of these

> > > > occasions.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > ,

angel

> > > > > > <angelgoel@>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you suggest any particular item for daan

> > > > > > > > > > > > > (donation) in this period or next day ?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Note:- After eclipse,next day (friday

> morning),

> > do

> > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > eat anything without taking bath.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > > > > > > > > angel

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot please.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ms

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No Sir.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th Night itself start and same night

> ends

> > > > itself,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have mentioned eclipse would be only

1

> > hour 33

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minutes.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You may say as per English date since

it

> > ends

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > after

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12.00 midnight

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ie.next English calendar date starts,

so

> > will

> > > > end

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th morning

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.08 am.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

,

> > Manoj

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sharma

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <manojsharma662000@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jut to clear any confusion, the lunar

> > eclipse

> > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > between the intervening night of

> > September 6th

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th? Right.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ms

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFERENCE LAHIRIS INDIAN EPHEMERIS

> FOR

> > 2006

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a.d.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eclipse begins on Thursday

September

> > 7th

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at night 23.35 and ends at same

> night

> > on

> > > > 25.08

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Total Duration One hour 33 minutes.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This will be visible in India, of

> > course no

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is advised to view this.,except

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scientist-astronomers.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As Shri Pandit Arjunji has advised

> all

> > > > devout

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > religious people,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of various religions (as added by

> me)

> > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > requested

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to make full use

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of these period, by taking name of

> > their

> > > > Isht

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Devatas (Japa

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and recitation), not to take water

> or

> > food

> > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > period,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sit on a seperate mat,not touch

> > anything,

> > > > have

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bath after this

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > period is over,then of course go to

> > sleep

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > after

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any Japa done near the ocean (Sea),

> near

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > religious

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rivers (Ganga,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yamuna,Saraswati etc.), in temple,

> in

> > places

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > already

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > great masters have meditated and

> gained

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enlightment,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also during period of Grahana

> > (Eclipse), has

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > give

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thousands fold

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of results which normally would

> accrue

> > to a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > person

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if he does

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at other times and other places.The

> > exact

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > figure

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > counts ,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how many thousand fold also has

been

> > given

> > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shastras, I have

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > personally read this, but now

cannot

> > > > remember

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and locate.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefor Dear members take

advantage

> of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oppurtunity

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and increase

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your spititual Bank balance,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE

> ULTIMATE

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE

> > BLISS.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >