Birth time verifcation by d10 chart

September 9, 2006

Dear Gurujans,

For quite a while now I am reading and learning astrology in an effort to rectify my birthtime. I have been following a few posts on dasamsa reading that planets in 2nd and 6th houses are related to the beginning of jobs. I have had quite a few jobs in my career and I distinctly remember start dates of 4 jobs. I am presenting below the VD in effect at start time of these jobs. I would appreciate if you can make comments whether these dasas indicate if the birthtime I am using is valid or not. The birthtime I am using here is rectified based on my limited knowledge of d9 (marriage date), d7 (children) and d81 charts.

My birthdata : Nov 18, 1944, 20:47, 70E27, 21N44

D10 chart is as follows:

Dasamsa D-10

+--------------+

| \ / \ / |

| \ SaR / \ Ke / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Md \ / |

| \ / \ / AL |

| x As x GL Su |

| / \ / \ |

| / Me \ 7 / HL \ |

| / \ / \ |

| Mo x Ma |

| \ / \ / |

| x x Gk |

| / \ / \ |

| / Ve \ / Ju \ |

| / Ra \ / \ |

+--------------+

1. Job Start date: Jan 27, 1969 ( 2nd job.. I quit the first one after 15 days)

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

Rah MD: 1956-06-03 (8:35:30) - 1974-06-03 (23:08:22)

Ven AD: 1967-12-23 (10:21:13) - 1970-12-23 (4:46:02)

Rah PD: 1969-01-18 (4:24:33) - 1969-07-01 (23:12:14)

Rah SD: 1969-01-18 (4:24:33) - 1969-02-11 (2:52:46)

Sat PAD: 1969-01-24 (22:46:04) - 1969-01-28 (17:37:48)

Rah: 1969-01-27 (15:52:31) - 1969-01-28 (5:30:34)

2. Job start date: May 10, 1976 (4th job.)

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

Jup MD: 1974-06-03 (23:08:22) - 1990-06-04 (1:38:08) Lord of 6th house

Jup AD: 1974-06-03 (23:08:22) - 1976-07-23 (18:33:44)

Rah PD: 1976-03-26 (8:25:01) - 1976-07-23 (18:33:44)

Sat SD: 1976-04-28 (15:08:31) - 1976-05-17 (11:40:35)

Moon PAD: 1976-05-09 (10:48:20) - 1976-05-11 (0:34:00) How can I explain this?

Ven: 1976-05-10 (16:22:57) - 1976-05-10 (22:40:40)

3. Job Start date: Dec 13, 1996 (nth job)

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

Sat MD: 1990-06-04 (1:38:08) - 2009-06-03 (22:30:32)

Ket AD: 1996-02-14 (17:04:43) - 1997-03-24 (21:55:56)

Sat PD: 1996-11-26 (14:01:02) - 1997-01-27 (16:17:36)

Merc SD: 1996-12-06 (10:51:40) - 1996-12-15 (6:07:13) How can I explain this?

Jup PAD: 1996-12-12 (16:32:43) - 1996-12-13 (20:41:46)

Rah: 1996-12-13 (16:28:26) - 1996-12-13 (20:41:46)

4. Job Start date: Oct 22, 2001 (n+1 the job)

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

Sat MD: 1990-06-04 (1:38:08) - 2009-06-03 (22:30:32)

Moon AD: 2001-05-06 (20:07:47) - 2002-12-08 (15:50:08) How can I explain this?

Rah PD: 2001-07-30 (4:40:19) - 2001-10-25 (23:16:52)

Mars SD: 2001-10-20 (23:03:50) - 2001-10-25 (23:16:52) How can I explain this?

Sat PAD: 2001-10-22 (16:10:14) - 2001-10-23 (11:12:30)

Sat: 2001-10-22 (16:10:14) - 2001-10-22 (19:11:06)

Thanks in advance,

Regards,

Pratap

September 9, 2006

Dear Pratap,

That might not be the correct principle. The 2nd and the 6th Houses

in D-10 do not necessarily show beginning of jobs. The 2nd, 6th and

10th Houses are the Artha Trikona. The beginning of jobs, new work

and change in Karma is seen from the 5th House and lord as it is the

8th (transformation) from the 10th (Karma). The Lagna and the 10th

Houses can also show new beginnings.

The 2nd House shows the resources and the motivation, the

aspirations and career goals of the native. It can also show the

nature of the work if it is the strongest of the Artha Trikona.

The 6th House will show the nature of the job. See the Graha,

Bhavesh and the Rashi Drishti on the house, in that order, for the

sequence of jobs and correlate them with Dashas.

Apart from Dashas, if there are several Grahas aspecting a Bhava to

do with work, you can see the Char Karakattwa of each Graha to see

which will bring work related to its significations. The Graha with

the highest longitude comes first and so on.

Subtle exceptions might have to be made. Suppose the 6th House is a

dual sign and there is a Graha. The nature of the first job, or work

will be shown by a Graha. If the 9th House is also a dual sign, the

Graha there might have an earlier impact than the Graha in the 12th

House, another dual sign, because the 9th House is activated by the

6th House. How? When we are in a job, we naturally have a boss. The

boss is seen from the 9th House. So, the nature of the work will be

coloured by the Graha in the 9th, even though the AK might be in the

12th.

I hope this will give further inputs.

Best Wishes,

Anurag Sharma

http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com

In this manner you can work on your chart.

, Pratap Kaneria <pkaneria

wrote:

>

> Dear Gurujans,

>

> For quite a while now I am reading and learning astrology in an

effort to rectify my birthtime. I have been following a few posts on

dasamsa reading that planets in 2nd and 6th houses are related to

the beginning of jobs. I have had quite a few jobs in my career and

I distinctly remember start dates of 4 jobs. I am presenting below

the VD in effect at start time of these jobs. I would appreciate if

you can make comments whether these dasas indicate if the birthtime

I am using is valid or not. The birthtime I am using here is

rectified based on my limited knowledge of d9 (marriage date), d7

(children) and d81 charts.

>

> My birthdata : Nov 18, 1944, 20:47, 70E27, 21N44

>

> D10 chart is as follows:

>

> Dasamsa D-10

> +--------------+

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ SaR / \ Ke / |

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ / Md \ / |

> | \ / \ / AL |

> | x As x GL Su |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / Me \ 7 / HL \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | Mo x Ma |

> | \ / \ / |

> | x x Gk |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / Ve \ / Ju \ |

> | / Ra \ / \ |

> +--------------+

>

> 1. Job Start date: Jan 27, 1969 ( 2nd job.. I quit the first one

after 15 days)

>

> Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

> Rah MD: 1956-06-03 (8:35:30) - 1974-06-03 (23:08:22)

> Ven AD: 1967-12-23 (10:21:13) - 1970-12-23 (4:46:02)

> Rah PD: 1969-01-18 (4:24:33) - 1969-07-01 (23:12:14)

> Rah SD: 1969-01-18 (4:24:33) - 1969-02-11 (2:52:46)

> Sat PAD: 1969-01-24 (22:46:04) - 1969-01-28 (17:37:48)

> Rah: 1969-01-27 (15:52:31) - 1969-01-28 (5:30:34)

>

> 2. Job start date: May 10, 1976 (4th job.)

>

> Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

> Jup MD: 1974-06-03 (23:08:22) - 1990-06-04

(1:38:08) Lord of 6th house

> Jup AD: 1974-06-03 (23:08:22) - 1976-07-23 (18:33:44)

> Rah PD: 1976-03-26 (8:25:01) - 1976-07-23 (18:33:44)

> Sat SD: 1976-04-28 (15:08:31) - 1976-05-17 (11:40:35)

> Moon PAD: 1976-05-09 (10:48:20) - 1976-05-11 (0:34:00) How

can I explain this?

> Ven: 1976-05-10 (16:22:57) - 1976-05-10 (22:40:40)

>

> 3. Job Start date: Dec 13, 1996 (nth job)

>

> Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

> Sat MD: 1990-06-04 (1:38:08) - 2009-06-03 (22:30:32)

> Ket AD: 1996-02-14 (17:04:43) - 1997-03-24 (21:55:56)

> Sat PD: 1996-11-26 (14:01:02) - 1997-01-27 (16:17:36)

> Merc SD: 1996-12-06 (10:51:40) - 1996-12-15 (6:07:13)

How can I explain this?

> Jup PAD: 1996-12-12 (16:32:43) - 1996-12-13 (20:41:46)

> Rah: 1996-12-13 (16:28:26) - 1996-12-13 (20:41:46)

>

> 4. Job Start date: Oct 22, 2001 (n+1 the job)

>

> Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

> Sat MD: 1990-06-04 (1:38:08) - 2009-06-03 (22:30:32)

> Moon AD: 2001-05-06 (20:07:47) - 2002-12-08 (15:50:08) How

can I explain this?

> Rah PD: 2001-07-30 (4:40:19) - 2001-10-25 (23:16:52)

> Mars SD: 2001-10-20 (23:03:50) - 2001-10-25 (23:16:52) How

can I explain this?

> Sat PAD: 2001-10-22 (16:10:14) - 2001-10-23 (11:12:30)

> Sat: 2001-10-22 (16:10:14) - 2001-10-22 (19:11:06)

>

> Thanks in advance,

>

> Regards,

>

> Pratap

>

September 9, 2006

Dear Pratap.

Nameste, To my memory you knew your birth time to be 20:40 ( your posting dated 17 feb 2006 or so ) then Visti rectified it to 20:38.Now you have taken 20:47, So May I understand you are fine tuning lagna degree by rectification.

I wonder if For such a fine tuning reliance on D10 with Vimshottari dasa ( that too from moon position in D 10 ) is fine and appropiate tool? Not only this

i am more surprised you are stating upto pran dasa for event varification? when most astrologer can hardly handle beyond pratyantra dasa in Natal rasi chart.

Please post your findings it will be great leraning lession.

OM TAT SAT.

-

Pratap Kaneria

Saturday, September 09, 2006 8:03 AM

[Om Krishna Guru] Birth time verifcation by d10 chart

Dear Gurujans,

For quite a while now I am reading and learning astrology in an effort to rectify my birthtime. I have been following a few posts on dasamsa reading that planets in 2nd and 6th houses are related to the beginning of jobs. I have had quite a few jobs in my career and I distinctly remember start dates of 4 jobs. I am presenting below the VD in effect at start time of these jobs. I would appreciate if you can make comments whether these dasas indicate if the birthtime I am using is valid or not. The birthtime I am using here is rectified based on my limited knowledge of d9 (marriage date), d7 (children) and d81 charts.

My birthdata : Nov 18, 1944, 20:47, 70E27, 21N44

D10 chart is as follows:

Dasamsa D-10

+--------------+

| \ / \ / |

| \ SaR / \ Ke / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Md \ / |

| \ / \ / AL |

| x As x GL Su |

| / \ / \ |

| / Me \ 7 / HL \ |

| / \ / \ |

| Mo x Ma |

| \ / \ / |

| x x Gk |

| / \ / \ |

| / Ve \ / Ju \ |

| / Ra \ / \ |

+--------------+

1. Job Start date: Jan 27, 1969 ( 2nd job.. I quit the first one after 15 days)

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

Rah MD: 1956-06-03 (8:35:30) - 1974-06-03 (23:08:22)

Ven AD: 1967-12-23 (10:21:13) - 1970-12-23 (4:46:02)

Rah PD: 1969-01-18 (4:24:33) - 1969-07-01 (23:12:14)

Rah SD: 1969-01-18 (4:24:33) - 1969-02-11 (2:52:46)

Sat PAD: 1969-01-24 (22:46:04) - 1969-01-28 (17:37:48)

Rah: 1969-01-27 (15:52:31) - 1969-01-28 (5:30:34)

2. Job start date: May 10, 1976 (4th job.)

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

Jup MD: 1974-06-03 (23:08:22) - 1990-06-04 (1:38:08) Lord of 6th house

Jup AD: 1974-06-03 (23:08:22) - 1976-07-23 (18:33:44)

Rah PD: 1976-03-26 (8:25:01) - 1976-07-23 (18:33:44)

Sat SD: 1976-04-28 (15:08:31) - 1976-05-17 (11:40:35)

Moon PAD: 1976-05-09 (10:48:20) - 1976-05-11 (0:34:00) How can I explain this?

Ven: 1976-05-10 (16:22:57) - 1976-05-10 (22:40:40)

3. Job Start date: Dec 13, 1996 (nth job)

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

Sat MD: 1990-06-04 (1:38:08) - 2009-06-03 (22:30:32)

Ket AD: 1996-02-14 (17:04:43) - 1997-03-24 (21:55:56)

Sat PD: 1996-11-26 (14:01:02) - 1997-01-27 (16:17:36)

Merc SD: 1996-12-06 (10:51:40) - 1996-12-15 (6:07:13) How can I explain this?

Jup PAD: 1996-12-12 (16:32:43) - 1996-12-13 (20:41:46)

Rah: 1996-12-13 (16:28:26) - 1996-12-13 (20:41:46)

4. Job Start date: Oct 22, 2001 (n+1 the job)

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

Sat MD: 1990-06-04 (1:38:08) - 2009-06-03 (22:30:32)

Moon AD: 2001-05-06 (20:07:47) - 2002-12-08 (15:50:08) How can I explain this?

Rah PD: 2001-07-30 (4:40:19) - 2001-10-25 (23:16:52)

Mars SD: 2001-10-20 (23:03:50) - 2001-10-25 (23:16:52) How can I explain this?

Sat PAD: 2001-10-22 (16:10:14) - 2001-10-23 (11:12:30)

Sat: 2001-10-22 (16:10:14) - 2001-10-22 (19:11:06)

Thanks in advance,

Regards,

Pratap

September 9, 2006

Dear Swami,

Yes. Your memory is perfect. Your point in using d10 based on moon is indeed very important but I don't know any better. I am trying to use the knowledge collected from COVA and discussions in this group etc. I am hoping that more comments will be made that will further my knowledge.

Regards,

Pratap

swami <swami_rcs > wrote:

Dear Pratap.

Nameste, To my memory you knew your birth time to be 20:40 ( your posting dated 17 feb 2006 or so ) then Visti rectified it to 20:38.Now you have taken 20:47, So May I understand you are fine tuning lagna degree by rectification.

I wonder if For such a fine tuning reliance on D10 with Vimshottari dasa ( that too from moon position in D 10 ) is fine and appropiate tool? Not only this

i am more surprised you are stating upto pran dasa for event varification? when most astrologer can hardly handle beyond pratyantra dasa in Natal rasi chart.

Please post your findings it will be great leraning lession.

OM TAT SAT.

-

Pratap Kaneria

Saturday, September 09, 2006 8:03 AM

[Om Krishna Guru] Birth time verifcation by d10 chart

Dear Gurujans,

For quite a while now I am reading and learning astrology in an effort to rectify my birthtime. I have been following a few posts on dasamsa reading that planets in 2nd and 6th houses are related to the beginning of jobs. I have had quite a few jobs in my career and I distinctly remember start dates of 4 jobs. I am presenting below the VD in effect at start time of these jobs. I would appreciate if you can make comments whether these dasas indicate if the birthtime I am using is valid or not. The birthtime I am using here is rectified based on my limited knowledge of d9 (marriage date), d7 (children) and d81 charts.

My birthdata : Nov 18, 1944, 20:47, 70E27, 21N44

D10 chart is as follows:

Dasamsa D-10

+--------------+

| \ / \ / |

| \ SaR / \ Ke / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Md \ / |

| \ / \ / AL |

| x As x GL Su |

| / \ / \ |

| / Me \ 7 / HL \ |

| / \ / \ |

| Mo x Ma |

| \ / \ / |

| x x Gk |

| / \ / \ |

| / Ve \ / Ju \ |

| / Ra \ / \ |

+--------------+

1. Job Start date: Jan 27, 1969 ( 2nd job.. I quit the first one after 15 days)

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

Rah MD: 1956-06-03 (8:35:30) - 1974-06-03 (23:08:22)

Ven AD: 1967-12-23 (10:21:13) - 1970-12-23 (4:46:02)

Rah PD: 1969-01-18 (4:24:33) - 1969-07-01 (23:12:14)

Rah SD: 1969-01-18 (4:24:33) - 1969-02-11 (2:52:46)

Sat PAD: 1969-01-24 (22:46:04) - 1969-01-28 (17:37:48)

Rah: 1969-01-27 (15:52:31) - 1969-01-28 (5:30:34)

2. Job start date: May 10, 1976 (4th job.)

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

Jup MD: 1974-06-03 (23:08:22) - 1990-06-04 (1:38:08) Lord of 6th house

Jup AD: 1974-06-03 (23:08:22) - 1976-07-23 (18:33:44)

Rah PD: 1976-03-26 (8:25:01) - 1976-07-23 (18:33:44)

Sat SD: 1976-04-28 (15:08:31) - 1976-05-17 (11:40:35)

Moon PAD: 1976-05-09 (10:48:20) - 1976-05-11 (0:34:00) How can I explain this?

Ven: 1976-05-10 (16:22:57) - 1976-05-10 (22:40:40)

3. Job Start date: Dec 13, 1996 (nth job)

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

Sat MD: 1990-06-04 (1:38:08) - 2009-06-03 (22:30:32)

Ket AD: 1996-02-14 (17:04:43) - 1997-03-24 (21:55:56)

Sat PD: 1996-11-26 (14:01:02) - 1997-01-27 (16:17:36)

Merc SD: 1996-12-06 (10:51:40) - 1996-12-15 (6:07:13) How can I explain this?

Jup PAD: 1996-12-12 (16:32:43) - 1996-12-13 (20:41:46)

Rah: 1996-12-13 (16:28:26) - 1996-12-13 (20:41:46)

4. Job Start date: Oct 22, 2001 (n+1 the job)

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

Sat MD: 1990-06-04 (1:38:08) - 2009-06-03 (22:30:32)

Moon AD: 2001-05-06 (20:07:47) - 2002-12-08 (15:50:08) How can I explain this?

Rah PD: 2001-07-30 (4:40:19) - 2001-10-25 (23:16:52)

Mars SD: 2001-10-20 (23:03:50) - 2001-10-25 (23:16:52) How can I explain this?

Sat PAD: 2001-10-22 (16:10:14) - 2001-10-23 (11:12:30)

Sat: 2001-10-22 (16:10:14) - 2001-10-22 (19:11:06)

Thanks in advance,

Regards,

Pratap

September 9, 2006

Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah

Dear Pratap,

INTRODUCTION

Buddha in forth in dasamsa is bad position for career and Ra/Sk in sixth bhava while the seventh is empty shows that job is more strong option than buisness for You and as 2L, 7L from AL are involved in curse the begining should be problematic for You (after 73 should be better and then after 97). That shukra is with your fifth lord in d-10 so finding new job should also be a task. As Rahu lords 4 from Surya new availability should come after demise of someone from motherside (preta in Lagna).

Lets see that events with eyes of Jyotisa:

a.. First job: Jan 1969

a.. Dasa Shukra-Sikhi

a.. D-10 -> Shukra is in sixth lord with fifth lord giving new opportunities and job issue, as it is eight lord its not something stationary and You would consider something else. Shukra is exalted so You had high ambitions in Your job. Ketu has argal on fifth lord and lords second bhava giving new drive towards work or accumalating money.

b.. In Rasi both influence Rajya Pada, Shukra is in 3 in d-3

c.. In D-2 both influence HL

d.. In D-9 Ke is Lord of 10H

b.. Second job: May 1976

a.. Dasa Chandra-Mangal

a.. Both influence tenth bhava in D-10

b.. In Rasi Chandra is with A10 and A10 is in 2 from Mangal - activating, chandra is in third in D-3

c.. In D-2 Chandra influence HL and Mangal is in kona to HL which is good.. Mangal lord third which shows short trips/writings and eight which gives some debts or work promised to someone, Chandra is in seventh bhava so whole mahadasa is connected to partners and travelings

d.. In D-9 Mangal is 10L and Chandra is lording artha trikona

a.. Third job: Dec 1996

a.. Dasa Rahu-Guru

a.. Rahu shows new beginning and training Your skills in work, being with eight lord exalted can show ending of something or shortterms project. It was something personal - Lagnesh involved. Having argal on forth from Surya gives availability...

b.. Guru being in eigth shows quick job issue and not stable with lot of vacation. there could be more temptation towards job (argal on 7).

c.. In D-1 Rahu will give some cheating and in Guru antardasa You will realise that cheating.. Guru will however give contacts and good social issue in your group connected to job (10 from Mo)

d.. In D-2 Both aspects HL, being in 10 from Lagna shows concrete job issue. Being sixth and seventh lords shows struggle and partnership in that time. however lack of peace regarding money issue..

a.. Forth job: Oct 2001

a.. Dasa Rahu-Buddha

a.. Buddha will give job intervening in Your office and some dynamism connected to Your place of work.(dharmakarmadhipati)

b.. Buddha also can give foreign travel or some foreign elements in Your place..but You will have good time in Your job (benefics in forth)

c.. D-2/Buddha lords 7 from HL and being in third from L shows money from short trips/writing/digging/occult(vrscik)

d.. D-9/Buddha is with 10L

e.. Buddha is in twelfth from Moon and sixth showing some revolt in Your work, and You can be little rebelian, there can be also some strain in maritial life due to that..some debts You can have also (8 from AL)

a.. All that works providing chart is accurate.

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

-

Pratap Kaneria

Saturday, September 09, 2006 4:33 AM

[Om Krishna Guru] Birth time verifcation by d10 chart

Dear Gurujans,

For quite a while now I am reading and learning astrology in an effort to rectify my birthtime. I have been following a few posts on dasamsa reading that planets in 2nd and 6th houses are related to the beginning of jobs. I have had quite a few jobs in my career and I distinctly remember start dates of 4 jobs. I am presenting below the VD in effect at start time of these jobs. I would appreciate if you can make comments whether these dasas indicate if the birthtime I am using is valid or not. The birthtime I am using here is rectified based on my limited knowledge of d9 (marriage date), d7 (children) and d81 charts.

My birthdata : Nov 18, 1944, 20:47, 70E27, 21N44

D10 chart is as follows:

Dasamsa D-10

+--------------+

| \ / \ / |

| \ SaR / \ Ke / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Md \ / |

| \ / \ / AL |

| x As x GL Su |

| / \ / \ |

| / Me \ 7 / HL \ |

| / \ / \ |

| Mo x Ma |

| \ / \ / |

| x x Gk |

| / \ / \ |

| / Ve \ / Ju \ |

| / Ra \ / \ |

+--------------+

1. Job Start date: Jan 27, 1969 ( 2nd job.. I quit the first one after 15 days)

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

Rah MD: 1956-06-03 (8:35:30) - 1974-06-03 (23:08:22)

Ven AD: 1967-12-23 (10:21:13) - 1970-12-23 (4:46:02)

Rah PD: 1969-01-18 (4:24:33) - 1969-07-01 (23:12:14)

Rah SD: 1969-01-18 (4:24:33) - 1969-02-11 (2:52:46)

Sat PAD: 1969-01-24 (22:46:04) - 1969-01-28 (17:37:48)

Rah: 1969-01-27 (15:52:31) - 1969-01-28 (5:30:34)

2. Job start date: May 10, 1976 (4th job.)

3. Job Start date: Dec 13, 1996 (nth job)

4. Job Start date: Oct 22, 2001 (n+1 the job)

Regards,

Pratap

September 9, 2006

|| Hare Raama Krsna ||

Dear Sri Prataap-ji,

Namaskar. A good point to start is

reading the Dasaamsa lecture of Sri Sanjay Rath in London Conference

2004 (http://www.htmail4.com/conf <http://www.htmail4.com/conf> ) and

the Dasamsa Pdf file in the Sohamsa Files section (one of the folders).

Also Visti-ji's srigaruda.com mp3s.

May I kindly provide some comments about the chart ? One should start

with Rasi, Navaamsa, Saptaamsa, Dasaamsa, Dwadasaamsa and Siddhaamsa

Charts. Higher charts can be taken up only then. Afterwards, Praanapada,

Kunda (lagna of D-81), Astottaraamsa, Vimsaamsa (2nd house shows

Kula-devata) etc. can be taken up for fine tuning.

I have taken Nov 18, 1944, 20:42:47, 70E27, 21N44. Kindly provide

further known events in other areas as indicated above. Also, always

mention your reported time first, and also the name of your birth place,

district etc. instead of just longitudes. There are several towns or

villages with similar names and it is possible that querrants can make

mistakes. Also, you didn't tell the nature of your job activities.

Please provide.

With Kanya Dasamsa Lagna (per 20:38 time) the 7th house is strong and is

habited by exalted Shukra and Rahu. However, 6th lord Rahu is in 7th and

Shukra is in exchange with Guru. Guru is also owning a trine to 7th.

This shows that initial start with jobs and moving over to business and

working closely with an advisor. Also, 11th house is having a

debilitated 8th lord Mangal and can show some unsteadiness in income.

However, since your career was predominantly jobs, I select Tula

Dasamsa Lagna (20:42:47). With this, Lagnesha is in 6th house with 5th

lord Rahu and Shukra Guru in exchange in 6th and 8th. Further, 6th house

is aspected by 2nd lord Kuja in the 12-th and can show several changes

of jobs with change in skill-levels required. Shukra is in exaltation

and also lagnesha in MKS. This shows your job will be in

micro-management (Shukra), something that you will not intrinsically

like (MKS), working in research, heavy machineries (Rahu), some teaching

activities (Guru involved) and routine work or construction or work in

micro-electronics (Ketu). 5th lord is in the 5th house and that too Sun.

So you should have a steady paycheck. Budha and Chandra in 4th house can

show a lot of communication and bureaucratic environment at your office.

Vimsottari (Chandra) Dasa

Jan 27, 1969 : Shukra-Ketu-Guru/Sani

Dasa and antar-dasa are related to Artha-trikona and Pratyantar dasa is

of Guru who is lord of 5th from AL. Sani is co-lord of 5th from Lagna

and is also aspecting A5 and A5-lord.

May 10, 1976: Chandra-Mangal-Rahu

Chandra is 10th lord and Mangal is A5 lord in the 10th house. Rahu is

lord of 5th from Lagna. This job could be related to engineering in a

large corporation (Karka). Mangal is aspected bySani (labor) and Guru

(advice).

December 13, 1996: Rahu-Guru-Chandra

October 22, 2001: Rahu-Budha-Mangal/Rahu

I will comment on the other jobs after you provide further information.

Please provide further events as requested. Also please provide

information on job environment, job functions etc.

Best wishes,

Sourav

================================================================

, Pratap Kaneria <pkaneria

wrote:

>

> Dear Swami,

>

> Yes. Your memory is perfect. Your point in using d10 based on moon is

indeed very important but I don't know any better. I am trying to use

the knowledge collected from COVA and discussions in this group etc. I

am hoping that more comments will be made that will further my

knowledge.

>

> Regards,

>

> Pratap

>

> swami swami_rcs wrote:

> Dear Pratap.

> Nameste, To my memory you knew your birth time to be 20:40 ( your

posting dated 17 feb 2006 or so ) then Visti rectified it to 20:38.Now

you have taken 20:47, So May I understand you are fine tuning lagna

degree by rectification.

> I wonder if For such a fine tuning reliance on D10 with Vimshottari

dasa ( that too from moon position in D 10 ) is fine and appropiate

tool? Not only this

> i am more surprised you are stating upto pran dasa for event

varification? when most astrologer can hardly handle beyond pratyantra

dasa in Natal rasi chart.

> Please post your findings it will be great leraning lession.

> OM TAT SAT.

> -

> Pratap Kaneria

>

> Saturday, September 09, 2006 8:03 AM

> [Om Krishna Guru] Birth time verifcation by d10 chart

>

> Dear Gurujans,

>

> For quite a while now I am reading and learning astrology in an effort

to rectify my birthtime. I have been following a few posts on dasamsa

reading that planets in 2nd and 6th houses are related to the beginning

of jobs. I have had quite a few jobs in my career and I distinctly

remember start dates of 4 jobs. I am presenting below the VD in effect

at start time of these jobs. I would appreciate if you can make comments

whether these dasas indicate if the birthtime I am using is valid or

not. The birthtime I am using here is rectified based on my limited

knowledge of d9 (marriage date), d7 (children) and d81 charts.

>

> My birthdata : Nov 18, 1944, 20:47, 70E27, 21N44

>

> D10 chart is as follows:

>

> Dasamsa D-10

> +--------------+

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ SaR / \ Ke / |

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ / Md \ / |

> | \ / \ / AL |

> | x As x GL Su |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / Me \ 7 / HL \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | Mo x Ma |

> | \ / \ / |

> | x x Gk |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / Ve \ / Ju \ |

> | / Ra \ / \ |

> +--------------+

>

> 1. Job Start date: Jan 27, 1969 ( 2nd job.. I quit the first one after

15 days)

>

> Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

> Rah MD: 1956-06-03 (8:35:30) - 1974-06-03 (23:08:22)

> Ven AD: 1967-12-23 (10:21:13) - 1970-12-23 (4:46:02)

> Rah PD: 1969-01-18 (4:24:33) - 1969-07-01 (23:12:14)

> Rah SD: 1969-01-18 (4:24:33) - 1969-02-11 (2:52:46)

> Sat PAD: 1969-01-24 (22:46:04) - 1969-01-28 (17:37:48)

> Rah: 1969-01-27 (15:52:31) - 1969-01-28 (5:30:34)

>

> 2. Job start date: May 10, 1976 (4th job.)

>

> Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

> Jup MD: 1974-06-03 (23:08:22) - 1990-06-04 (1:38:08) Lord of 6th house

> Jup AD: 1974-06-03 (23:08:22) - 1976-07-23 (18:33:44)

> Rah PD: 1976-03-26 (8:25:01) - 1976-07-23 (18:33:44)

> Sat SD: 1976-04-28 (15:08:31) - 1976-05-17 (11:40:35)

> Moon PAD: 1976-05-09 (10:48:20) - 1976-05-11 (0:34:00) How can I

explain this?

> Ven: 1976-05-10 (16:22:57) - 1976-05-10 (22:40:40)

>

> 3. Job Start date: Dec 13, 1996 (nth job)

>

> Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

> Sat MD: 1990-06-04 (1:38:08) - 2009-06-03 (22:30:32)

> Ket AD: 1996-02-14 (17:04:43) - 1997-03-24 (21:55:56)

> Sat PD: 1996-11-26 (14:01:02) - 1997-01-27 (16:17:36)

> Merc SD: 1996-12-06 (10:51:40) - 1996-12-15 (6:07:13) How can I

explain this?

> Jup PAD: 1996-12-12 (16:32:43) - 1996-12-13 (20:41:46)

> Rah: 1996-12-13 (16:28:26) - 1996-12-13 (20:41:46)

>

> 4. Job Start date: Oct 22, 2001 (n+1 the job)

>

> Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

> Sat MD: 1990-06-04 (1:38:08) - 2009-06-03 (22:30:32)

> Moon AD: 2001-05-06 (20:07:47) - 2002-12-08 (15:50:08) How can I

explain this?

> Rah PD: 2001-07-30 (4:40:19) - 2001-10-25 (23:16:52)

> Mars SD: 2001-10-20 (23:03:50) - 2001-10-25 (23:16:52) How can I

explain this?

> Sat PAD: 2001-10-22 (16:10:14) - 2001-10-23 (11:12:30)

> Sat: 2001-10-22 (16:10:14) - 2001-10-22 (19:11:06)

>

> Thanks in advance,

>

> Regards,

>

> Pratap

>

September 9, 2006

Dear Rafal Ji

How to check that Dasamsa is correct ? I have 4 debiliated planets in D 10. What does that mean ?

Please guide

Thanks

Jagdish

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah

Dear Pratap,

INTRODUCTION

Buddha in forth in dasamsa is bad position for career and Ra/Sk in sixth bhava while the seventh is empty shows that job is more strong option than buisness for You and as 2L, 7L from AL are involved in curse the begining should be problematic for You (after 73 should be better and then after 97). That shukra is with your fifth lord in d-10 so finding new job should also be a task. As Rahu lords 4 from Surya new availability should come after demise of someone from motherside (preta in Lagna).

Lets see that events with eyes of Jyotisa:

a.. First job: Jan 1969

a.. Dasa Shukra-Sikhi

a.. D-10 -> Shukra is in sixth lord with fifth lord giving new opportunities and job issue, as it is eight lord its not something stationary and You would consider something else. Shukra is exalted so You had high ambitions in Your job. Ketu has argal on fifth lord and lords second bhava giving new drive towards work or accumalating money.

b.. In Rasi both influence Rajya Pada, Shukra is in 3 in d-3

c.. In D-2 both influence HL

d.. In D-9 Ke is Lord of 10H

b.. Second job: May 1976

a.. Dasa Chandra-Mangal

a.. Both influence tenth bhava in D-10

b.. In Rasi Chandra is with A10 and A10 is in 2 from Mangal - activating, chandra is in third in D-3

c.. In D-2 Chandra influence HL and Mangal is in kona to HL which is good.. Mangal lord third which shows short trips/writings and eight which gives some debts or work promised to someone, Chandra is in seventh bhava so whole mahadasa is connected to partners and travelings

d.. In D-9 Mangal is 10L and Chandra is lording artha trikona

a.. Third job: Dec 1996

a.. Dasa Rahu-Guru

a.. Rahu shows new beginning and training Your skills in work, being with eight lord exalted can show ending of something or shortterms project. It was something personal - Lagnesh involved. Having argal on forth from Surya gives availability...

b.. Guru being in eigth shows quick job issue and not stable with lot of vacation. there could be more temptation towards job (argal on 7).

c.. In D-1 Rahu will give some cheating and in Guru antardasa You will realise that cheating.. Guru will however give contacts and good social issue in your group connected to job (10 from Mo)

d.. In D-2 Both aspects HL, being in 10 from Lagna shows concrete job issue.. Being sixth and seventh lords shows struggle and partnership in that time.. however lack of peace regarding money issue..

a.. Forth job: Oct 2001

a.. Dasa Rahu-Buddha

a.. Buddha will give job intervening in Your office and some dynamism connected to Your place of work.(dharmakarmadhipati)

b.. Buddha also can give foreign travel or some foreign elements in Your place..but You will have good time in Your job (benefics in forth)

c.. D-2/Buddha lords 7 from HL and being in third from L shows money from short trips/writing/digging/occult(vrscik)

d.. D-9/Buddha is with 10L

e.. Buddha is in twelfth from Moon and sixth showing some revolt in Your work, and You can be little rebelian, there can be also some strain in maritial life due to that..some debts You can have also (8 from AL)

a.. All that works providing chart is accurate.

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

-

Pratap Kaneria

Saturday, September 09, 2006 4:33 AM

[Om Krishna Guru] Birth time verifcation by d10 chart

Dear Gurujans,

For quite a while now I am reading and learning astrology in an effort to rectify my birthtime. I have been following a few posts on dasamsa reading that planets in 2nd and 6th houses are related to the beginning of jobs. I have had quite a few jobs in my career and I distinctly remember start dates of 4 jobs. I am presenting below the VD in effect at start time of these jobs. I would appreciate if you can make comments whether these dasas indicate if the birthtime I am using is valid or not. The birthtime I am using here is rectified based on my limited knowledge of d9 (marriage date), d7 (children) and d81 charts.

My birthdata : Nov 18, 1944, 20:47, 70E27, 21N44

D10 chart is as follows:

Dasamsa D-10

+--------------+

| \ / \ / |

| \ SaR / \ Ke / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Md \ / |

| \ / \ / AL |

| x As x GL Su |

| / \ / \ |

| / Me \ 7 / HL \ |

| / \ / \ |

| Mo x Ma |

| \ / \ / |

| x x Gk |

| / \ / \ |

| / Ve \ / Ju \ |

| / Ra \ / \ |

+--------------+

1. Job Start date: Jan 27, 1969 ( 2nd job.. I quit the first one after 15 days)

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

Rah MD: 1956-06-03 (8:35:30) - 1974-06-03 (23:08:22)

Ven AD: 1967-12-23 (10:21:13) - 1970-12-23 (4:46:02)

Rah PD: 1969-01-18 (4:24:33) - 1969-07-01 (23:12:14)

Rah SD: 1969-01-18 (4:24:33) - 1969-02-11 (2:52:46)

Sat PAD: 1969-01-24 (22:46:04) - 1969-01-28 (17:37:48)

Rah: 1969-01-27 (15:52:31) - 1969-01-28 (5:30:34)

2. Job start date: May 10, 1976 (4th job.)

3. Job Start date: Dec 13, 1996 (nth job)

4. Job Start date: Oct 22, 2001 (n+1 the job)

Regards,

Pratap

September 9, 2006

Dear rafal, nameste,

Well dear rafal,

How about nature of jobs the native had? we can justify any thing.We know he was in investment banking some times.Can you spot the years from your analysis.I am asking for out of curosity because in end you say , All that works providing chart is accurate.

Hope chart data and your analysis is correct, just want to know why you state certain things.

for example.

Budha placement in fourth is bad.Why? In D 10 Pratap has 9L with 4 L, now please donot say yoga are not formed in Divisional charts.

As Rahu lords 4 from Surya new availability should come after demise of someone from motherside (preta in Lagna).

O.k. How many times and Why? oviuosly mother side mean mny people.. we are taught Fourth before "sun the sarvatma " is the native if Rahu is lord of fourth from sun (, sun is representative of All the resources).Why lordship of Rahu should give gain after demise from mother side ? What is source of reasoning.

Pointers that you have mentioned indicates precisely what?

This is what i want to understand . Hope you are not irked? . I have not understood Pratap mentions analysis upto ppd level , how you say time of birth is correct.I donot feel your analysis is supportive.I humble seek clarification , if you can oblige.

With best wishes.

-

Rafal Gendarz

; sohamsa ; vedic astrology

Saturday, September 09, 2006 8:33 PM

[Om Krishna Guru] Birth time verifcation by d10 chart

Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah

Dear Pratap,

INTRODUCTION

Buddha in forth in dasamsa is bad position for career and Ra/Sk in sixth bhava while the seventh is empty shows that job is more strong option than buisness for You and as 2L, 7L from AL are involved in curse the begining should be problematic for You (after 73 should be better and then after 97). That shukra is with your fifth lord in d-10 so finding new job should also be a task. As Rahu lords 4 from Surya new availability should come after demise of someone from motherside (preta in Lagna).

Lets see that events with eyes of Jyotisa:

a.. First job: Jan 1969

a.. Dasa Shukra-Sikhi

a.. D-10 -> Shukra is in sixth lord with fifth lord giving new opportunities and job issue, as it is eight lord its not something stationary and You would consider something else. Shukra is exalted so You had high ambitions in Your job. Ketu has argal on fifth lord and lords second bhava giving new drive towards work or accumalating money.

b.. In Rasi both influence Rajya Pada, Shukra is in 3 in d-3

c.. In D-2 both influence HL

d.. In D-9 Ke is Lord of 10H

b.. Second job: May 1976

a.. Dasa Chandra-Mangal

a.. Both influence tenth bhava in D-10

b.. In Rasi Chandra is with A10 and A10 is in 2 from Mangal - activating, chandra is in third in D-3

c.. In D-2 Chandra influence HL and Mangal is in kona to HL which is good.. Mangal lord third which shows short trips/writings and eight which gives some debts or work promised to someone, Chandra is in seventh bhava so whole mahadasa is connected to partners and travelings

d.. In D-9 Mangal is 10L and Chandra is lording artha trikona

a.. Third job: Dec 1996

a.. Dasa Rahu-Guru

a.. Rahu shows new beginning and training Your skills in work, being with eight lord exalted can show ending of something or shortterms project. It was something personal - Lagnesh involved. Having argal on forth from Surya gives availability...

b.. Guru being in eigth shows quick job issue and not stable with lot of vacation. there could be more temptation towards job (argal on 7).

c.. In D-1 Rahu will give some cheating and in Guru antardasa You will realise that cheating.. Guru will however give contacts and good social issue in your group connected to job (10 from Mo)

d.. In D-2 Both aspects HL, being in 10 from Lagna shows concrete job issue. Being sixth and seventh lords shows struggle and partnership in that time. however lack of peace regarding money issue..

a.. Forth job: Oct 2001

a.. Dasa Rahu-Buddha

a.. Buddha will give job intervening in Your office and some dynamism connected to Your place of work.(dharmakarmadhipati)

b.. Buddha also can give foreign travel or some foreign elements in Your place..but You will have good time in Your job (benefics in forth)

c.. D-2/Buddha lords 7 from HL and being in third from L shows money from short trips/writing/digging/occult(vrscik)

d.. D-9/Buddha is with 10L

e.. Buddha is in twelfth from Moon and sixth showing some revolt in Your work, and You can be little rebelian, there can be also some strain in maritial life due to that..some debts You can have also (8 from AL)

a.. All that works providing chart is accurate.

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

-

Pratap Kaneria

Saturday, September 09, 2006 4:33 AM

[Om Krishna Guru] Birth time verifcation by d10 chart

Dear Gurujans,

For quite a while now I am reading and learning astrology in an effort to rectify my birthtime. I have been following a few posts on dasamsa reading that planets in 2nd and 6th houses are related to the beginning of jobs. I have had quite a few jobs in my career and I distinctly remember start dates of 4 jobs. I am presenting below the VD in effect at start time of these jobs. I would appreciate if you can make comments whether these dasas indicate if the birthtime I am using is valid or not. The birthtime I am using here is rectified based on my limited knowledge of d9 (marriage date), d7 (children) and d81 charts.

My birthdata : Nov 18, 1944, 20:47, 70E27, 21N44

D10 chart is as follows:

Dasamsa D-10

+--------------+

| \ / \ / |

| \ SaR / \ Ke / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Md \ / |

| \ / \ / AL |

| x As x GL Su |

| / \ / \ |

| / Me \ 7 / HL \ |

| / \ / \ |

| Mo x Ma |

| \ / \ / |

| x x Gk |

| / \ / \ |

| / Ve \ / Ju \ |

| / Ra \ / \ |

+--------------+

1. Job Start date: Jan 27, 1969 ( 2nd job.. I quit the first one after 15 days)

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

Rah MD: 1956-06-03 (8:35:30) - 1974-06-03 (23:08:22)

Ven AD: 1967-12-23 (10:21:13) - 1970-12-23 (4:46:02)

Rah PD: 1969-01-18 (4:24:33) - 1969-07-01 (23:12:14)

Rah SD: 1969-01-18 (4:24:33) - 1969-02-11 (2:52:46)

Sat PAD: 1969-01-24 (22:46:04) - 1969-01-28 (17:37:48)

Rah: 1969-01-27 (15:52:31) - 1969-01-28 (5:30:34)

2. Job start date: May 10, 1976 (4th job.)

3. Job Start date: Dec 13, 1996 (nth job)

4. Job Start date: Oct 22, 2001 (n+1 the job)

Regards,

Pratap

September 9, 2006

Jaya Jagganath!

Dear Swami,

Replies under.

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

-

swami

Saturday, September 09, 2006 6:46 PM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Birth time verifcation by d10 chart

Dear rafal, nameste,

Well dear rafal,

How about nature of jobs the native had?

[rafal] Type of job is seen in artha trikona to D-10 Lagna while resources of income are seen from 11 from AL in D-1. There were many lectures about that..

Budha placement in fourth is bad.Why? In D 10 Pratap has 9L with 4 L, now please donot say yoga are not formed in Divisional charts.

[rafal] Indeed Yogas are working in Varga's but with specific meanings. Tenth bhava is karya bhava in Surya-amsa and Buddha in forth is in Maraka Karaka Sthan (jataka parijata - kalachakra chapter) from Tenth bhava therefore giving many problems. Its like having Shukra in vyayabhava in D-9.

As Rahu lords 4 from Surya new availability should come after demise of someone from motherside (preta in Lagna).

O.k. How many times and Why?

[rafal] It should be seen looking at Mahadasa position from 4H from Surya in D-10.

oviuosly mother side mean mny people.. we are taught Fourth before "sun the sarvatma " is the native if Rahu is lord of fourth from sun (, sun is representative of All the resources).Why lordship of Rahu should give gain after demise from mother side ? What is source of reasoning.

[rafal] Preta Yoga blocks many things until the rites are done properly. After demise or little before (depending on Lagnesh position) the blockage is removed and all that areas connected to it are free..

-

Rafal Gendarz

; sohamsa ; vedic astrology

Saturday, September 09, 2006 8:33 PM

[Om Krishna Guru] Birth time verifcation by d10 chart

Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah

Dear Pratap,

INTRODUCTION

Buddha in forth in dasamsa is bad position for career and Ra/Sk in sixth bhava while the seventh is empty shows that job is more strong option than buisness for You and as 2L, 7L from AL are involved in curse the begining should be problematic for You (after 73 should be better and then after 97). That shukra is with your fifth lord in d-10 so finding new job should also be a task. As Rahu lords 4 from Surya new availability should come after demise of someone from motherside (preta in Lagna).

Lets see that events with eyes of Jyotisa:

a.. First job: Jan 1969

a.. Dasa Shukra-Sikhi

a.. D-10 -> Shukra is in sixth lord with fifth lord giving new opportunities and job issue, as it is eight lord its not something stationary and You would consider something else. Shukra is exalted so You had high ambitions in Your job. Ketu has argal on fifth lord and lords second bhava giving new drive towards work or accumalating money.

b.. In Rasi both influence Rajya Pada, Shukra is in 3 in d-3

c.. In D-2 both influence HL

d.. In D-9 Ke is Lord of 10H

b.. Second job: May 1976

a.. Dasa Chandra-Mangal

a.. Both influence tenth bhava in D-10

b.. In Rasi Chandra is with A10 and A10 is in 2 from Mangal - activating, chandra is in third in D-3

c.. In D-2 Chandra influence HL and Mangal is in kona to HL which is good.. Mangal lord third which shows short trips/writings and eight which gives some debts or work promised to someone, Chandra is in seventh bhava so whole mahadasa is connected to partners and travelings

d.. In D-9 Mangal is 10L and Chandra is lording artha trikona

a.. Third job: Dec 1996

a.. Dasa Rahu-Guru

a.. Rahu shows new beginning and training Your skills in work, being with eight lord exalted can show ending of something or shortterms project. It was something personal - Lagnesh involved. Having argal on forth from Surya gives availability...

b.. Guru being in eigth shows quick job issue and not stable with lot of vacation. there could be more temptation towards job (argal on 7).

c.. In D-1 Rahu will give some cheating and in Guru antardasa You will realise that cheating.. Guru will however give contacts and good social issue in your group connected to job (10 from Mo)

d.. In D-2 Both aspects HL, being in 10 from Lagna shows concrete job issue. Being sixth and seventh lords shows struggle and partnership in that time. however lack of peace regarding money issue..

a.. Forth job: Oct 2001

a.. Dasa Rahu-Buddha

a.. Buddha will give job intervening in Your office and some dynamism connected to Your place of work.(dharmakarmadhipati)

b.. Buddha also can give foreign travel or some foreign elements in Your place..but You will have good time in Your job (benefics in forth)

c.. D-2/Buddha lords 7 from HL and being in third from L shows money from short trips/writing/digging/occult(vrscik)

d.. D-9/Buddha is with 10L

e.. Buddha is in twelfth from Moon and sixth showing some revolt in Your work, and You can be little rebelian, there can be also some strain in maritial life due to that..some debts You can have also (8 from AL)

a.. All that works providing chart is accurate.

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

-

Pratap Kaneria

Saturday, September 09, 2006 4:33 AM

[Om Krishna Guru] Birth time verifcation by d10 chart

Dear Gurujans,

For quite a while now I am reading and learning astrology in an effort to rectify my birthtime. I have been following a few posts on dasamsa reading that planets in 2nd and 6th houses are related to the beginning of jobs. I have had quite a few jobs in my career and I distinctly remember start dates of 4 jobs. I am presenting below the VD in effect at start time of these jobs. I would appreciate if you can make comments whether these dasas indicate if the birthtime I am using is valid or not. The birthtime I am using here is rectified based on my limited knowledge of d9 (marriage date), d7 (children) and d81 charts.

My birthdata : Nov 18, 1944, 20:47, 70E27, 21N44

D10 chart is as follows:

Dasamsa D-10

+--------------+

| \ / \ / |

| \ SaR / \ Ke / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Md \ / |

| \ / \ / AL |

| x As x GL Su |

| / \ / \ |

| / Me \ 7 / HL \ |

| / \ / \ |

| Mo x Ma |

| \ / \ / |

| x x Gk |

| / \ / \ |

| / Ve \ / Ju \ |

| / Ra \ / \ |

+--------------+

1. Job Start date: Jan 27, 1969 ( 2nd job.. I quit the first one after 15 days)

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

Rah MD: 1956-06-03 (8:35:30) - 1974-06-03 (23:08:22)

Ven AD: 1967-12-23 (10:21:13) - 1970-12-23 (4:46:02)

Rah PD: 1969-01-18 (4:24:33) - 1969-07-01 (23:12:14)

Rah SD: 1969-01-18 (4:24:33) - 1969-02-11 (2:52:46)

Sat PAD: 1969-01-24 (22:46:04) - 1969-01-28 (17:37:48)

Rah: 1969-01-27 (15:52:31) - 1969-01-28 (5:30:34)

2. Job start date: May 10, 1976 (4th job.)

3. Job Start date: Dec 13, 1996 (nth job)

4. Job Start date: Oct 22, 2001 (n+1 the job)

Regards,

Pratap

September 9, 2006

Dear Souravji,

Thanks for your comments. Allow me to provide some more details.

1. Place of my birth is Dhoraji, Gujarat. As far as I know there is no other Dhoraji in India.

2. By education I am a chemical engineer but never worked as an engineer. First job that I mention (jan 1969) was as a programmer developing computer applications for a process engineering firm (CHEMICO) who designed and built chemical plants worldwide. Since then I always worked on developing, implementing and supporting computer applications (software). Never touched a machine other than a computer keyboard. I was a regular employee at this firm. I did make quite a progress in this job. At end I was head of all computer services at this firm reporting to top management.

3. I started second job in a similar company (Stone&Webster) without a single days break between the two jobs. I did not have to look for this job. I was invited to come over. I moved to second job because first firm was being dissolved. In this job also I made tremendous progress and reached the top position in computer services. Then in 1985 april/may, I quit the job with the wishful thinking of going into some real estate business. I did not have the patience and therefore in August 1985, I got an assignment as a database consultant. After this time until now I was never an employee in true sense. I got paid by number of hours I worked with no benefits. Can we consider this as being in business?

3. Third job was really the most rewarding job (was very lucrative and satisfying). It also came very easily. When I went for interview, it was someone I worked with before and there was no interview. I was treated like a king during this assignment. Made a ton of money all of which was lost during the stock market crash. This was a very well known investment banking company. But my job was to support a HR system.

4. Fourth job was again at the same company (after a break of about 7 months). My manager made up need document to bring me back. Again the job was very satisfying. It ended on March 14, 2004 and I haven't worked in computer field since then.

General: Getting job (consulting assignment) was always very hard and pain but once I started working, everything went in my favor. My superiors always protected me and promoted me. Since March 14, 2004 I am working as a life insurance broker, mortgage broker and a real estate agent with not much success. One thing I have observed is that all the companies I worked for, have gone bankrupt or are sold after I leave them or they let me go ::}. Other thing I have never worked as teacher of anything. After 1985, I never had a steady paycheck. Too many long gaps between assignments. My longest assignment started in Dec 1996.

To summarize my career: 1. Jobs came after much difficulty

2. Jobs were always very satisfying (financially and otherwise)

3. Superiors always protected and promoted me and gave me all the freedom.

4. Never really worked hard at the job, still never failed to deliver.

I don't know if this information is relavent to what we are doing here but I hope it is. It is like some dasa started in Jan 1969 and ended on March 2004.

One thing I forgot to mention that Rahu in transit dasamsa ( the lord of 5th house (aquarius) in natal dasama) was either in aquarius or leo in three cases and in fourth case aspecting aquarius. Is this significant?

Regards,

Pratap

Sourav <souravc108 > wrote:

|| Hare Raama Krsna ||

Dear Sri Prataap-ji,

Namaskar. A good point to start is reading the Dasaamsa lecture of Sri Sanjay Rath in London Conference 2004 (http://www.htmail4.com/conf) and the Dasamsa Pdf file in the Sohamsa Files section (one of the folders). Also Visti-ji's srigaruda.com mp3s.

May I kindly provide some comments about the chart ? One should start with Rasi, Navaamsa, Saptaamsa, Dasaamsa, Dwadasaamsa and Siddhaamsa Charts. Higher charts can be taken up only then. Afterwards, Praanapada, Kunda (lagna of D-81), Astottaraamsa, Vimsaamsa (2nd house shows Kula-devata) etc. can be taken up for fine tuning.

I have taken Nov 18, 1944, 20:42:47, 70E27, 21N44. Kindly provide further known events in other areas as indicated above. Also, always mention your reported time first, and also the name of your birth place, district etc. instead of just longitudes. There are several towns or villages with similar names and it is possible that querrants can make mistakes. Also, you didn't tell the nature of your job activities. Please provide.

With Kanya Dasamsa Lagna (per 20:38 time) the 7th house is strong and is habited by exalted Shukra and Rahu. However, 6th lord Rahu is in 7th and Shukra is in exchange with Guru. Guru is also owning a trine to 7th. This shows that initial start with jobs and moving over to business and working closely with an advisor. Also, 11th house is having a debilitated 8th lord Mangal and can show some unsteadiness in income.

However, since your career was predominantly jobs, I select Tula Dasamsa Lagna (20:42:47). With this, Lagnesha is in 6th house with 5th lord Rahu and Shukra Guru in exchange in 6th and 8th. Further, 6th house is aspected by 2nd lord Kuja in the 12-th and can show several changes of jobs with change in skill-levels required. Shukra is in exaltation and also lagnesha in MKS. This shows your job will be in micro-management (Shukra), something that you will not intrinsically like (MKS), working in research, heavy machineries (Rahu), some teaching activities (Guru involved) and routine work or construction or work in micro-electronics (Ketu). 5th lord is in the 5th house and that too Sun. So you should have a steady paycheck. Budha and Chandra in 4th house can show a lot of communication and bureaucratic environment at your office.

Vimsottari (Chandra) Dasa

Jan 27, 1969 : Shukra-Ketu-Guru/Sani

Dasa and antar-dasa are related to Artha-trikona and Pratyantar dasa is of Guru who is lord of 5th from AL. Sani is co-lord of 5th from Lagna and is also aspecting A5 and A5-lord.

May 10, 1976: Chandra-Mangal-Rahu

Chandra is 10th lord and Mangal is A5 lord in the 10th house. Rahu is lord of 5th from Lagna. This job could be related to engineering in a large corporation (Karka). Mangal is aspected bySani (labor) and Guru (advice).

December 13, 1996: Rahu-Guru-Chandra

October 22, 2001: Rahu-Budha-Mangal/Rahu

I will comment on the other jobs after you provide further information. Please provide further events as requested. Also please provide information on job environment, job functions etc.

Best wishes,

Sourav

================================================================

, Pratap Kaneria <pkaneria wrote:

>

> Dear Swami,

>

> Yes. Your memory is perfect. Your point in using d10 based on moon is indeed very important but I don't know any better. I am trying to use the knowledge collected from COVA and discussions in this group etc. I am hoping that more comments will be made that will further my knowledge.

>

> Regards,

>

> Pratap

>

> swami swami_rcs wrote:

> Dear Pratap.

> Nameste, To my memory you knew your birth time to be 20:40 ( your posting dated 17 feb 2006 or so ) then Visti rectified it to 20:38.Now you have taken 20:47, So May I understand you are fine tuning lagna degree by rectification.

> I wonder if For such a fine tuning reliance on D10 with Vimshottari dasa ( that too from moon position in D 10 ) is fine and appropiate tool? Not only this

> i am more surprised you are stating upto pran dasa for event varification? when most astrologer can hardly handle beyond pratyantra dasa in Natal rasi chart.

> Please post your findings it will be great leraning lession.

> OM TAT SAT.

> -

> Pratap Kaneria

>

> Saturday, September 09, 2006 8:03 AM

> [Om Krishna Guru] Birth time verifcation by d10 chart

>

> Dear Gurujans,

>

> For quite a while now I am reading and learning astrology in an effort to rectify my birthtime. I have been following a few posts on dasamsa reading that planets in 2nd and 6th houses are related to the beginning of jobs. I have had quite a few jobs in my career and I distinctly remember start dates of 4 jobs. I am presenting below the VD in effect at start time of these jobs. I would appreciate if you can make comments whether these dasas indicate if the birthtime I am using is valid or not. The birthtime I am using here is rectified based on my limited knowledge of d9 (marriage date), d7 (children) and d81 charts.

>

> My birthdata : Nov 18, 1944, 20:47, 70E27, 21N44

>

> D10 chart is as follows:

>

> Dasamsa D-10

> +--------------+

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ SaR / \ Ke / |

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ / Md \ / |

> | \ / \ / AL |

> | x As x GL Su |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / Me \ 7 / HL \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | Mo x Ma |

> | \ / \ / |

> | x x Gk |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / Ve \ / Ju \ |

> | / Ra \ / \ |

> +--------------+

>

> 1. Job Start date: Jan 27, 1969 ( 2nd job.. I quit the first one after 15 days)

>

> Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

> Rah MD: 1956-06-03 (8:35:30) - 1974-06-03 (23:08:22)

> Ven AD: 1967-12-23 (10:21:13) - 1970-12-23 (4:46:02)

> Rah PD: 1969-01-18 (4:24:33) - 1969-07-01 (23:12:14)

> Rah SD: 1969-01-18 (4:24:33) - 1969-02-11 (2:52:46)

> Sat PAD: 1969-01-24 (22:46:04) - 1969-01-28 (17:37:48)

> Rah: 1969-01-27 (15:52:31) - 1969-01-28 (5:30:34)

>

> 2. Job start date: May 10, 1976 (4th job.)

>

> Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

> Jup MD: 1974-06-03 (23:08:22) - 1990-06-04 (1:38:08) Lord of 6th house

> Jup AD: 1974-06-03 (23:08:22) - 1976-07-23 (18:33:44)

> Rah PD: 1976-03-26 (8:25:01) - 1976-07-23 (18:33:44)

> Sat SD: 1976-04-28 (15:08:31) - 1976-05-17 (11:40:35)

> Moon PAD: 1976-05-09 (10:48:20) - 1976-05-11 (0:34:00) How can I explain this?

> Ven: 1976-05-10 (16:22:57) - 1976-05-10 (22:40:40)

>

> 3. Job Start date: Dec 13, 1996 (nth job)

>

> Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

> Sat MD: 1990-06-04 (1:38:08) - 2009-06-03 (22:30:32)

> Ket AD: 1996-02-14 (17:04:43) - 1997-03-24 (21:55:56)

> Sat PD: 1996-11-26 (14:01:02) - 1997-01-27 (16:17:36)

> Merc SD: 1996-12-06 (10:51:40) - 1996-12-15 (6:07:13) How can I explain this?

> Jup PAD: 1996-12-12 (16:32:43) - 1996-12-13 (20:41:46)

> Rah: 1996-12-13 (16:28:26) - 1996-12-13 (20:41:46)

>

> 4. Job Start date: Oct 22, 2001 (n+1 the job)

>

> Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

> Sat MD: 1990-06-04 (1:38:08) - 2009-06-03 (22:30:32)

> Moon AD: 2001-05-06 (20:07:47) - 2002-12-08 (15:50:08) How can I explain this?

> Rah PD: 2001-07-30 (4:40:19) - 2001-10-25 (23:16:52)

> Mars SD: 2001-10-20 (23:03:50) - 2001-10-25 (23:16:52) How can I explain this?

> Sat PAD: 2001-10-22 (16:10:14) - 2001-10-23 (11:12:30)

> Sat: 2001-10-22 (16:10:14) - 2001-10-22 (19:11:06)

>

> Thanks in advance,

>

> Regards,

>

> Pratap

>

September 9, 2006

Dear pratap,

Nameste, Your details are relevent.Your observations in bold are a pointer that your birth time is near to accuracy.V th lord portends change in D 10 as Saurav pointed out.I was guessing what could be types of Job.Your explanation about it confirms what your chart shows.Now we can check D 24 also.By the way there is only one Dhoraji known and incidently i was in this city as communications incharge around 1973-74. and it was this city where i learned Jyotish .

-

Pratap Kaneria

Sunday, September 10, 2006 12:22 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Birth time verifcation by d10 chart

Dear Souravji,

Thanks for your comments. Allow me to provide some more details.

1. Place of my birth is Dhoraji, Gujarat. As far as I know there is no other Dhoraji in India.

2. By education I am a chemical engineer but never worked as an engineer. First job that I mention (jan 1969) was as a programmer developing computer applications for a process engineering firm (CHEMICO) who designed and built chemical plants worldwide. Since then I always worked on developing, implementing and supporting computer applications (software). Never touched a machine other than a computer keyboard. I was a regular employee at this firm. I did make quite a progress in this job. At end I was head of all computer services at this firm reporting to top management.

3. I started second job in a similar company (Stone&Webster) without a single days break between the two jobs. I did not have to look for this job. I was invited to come over. I moved to second job because first firm was being dissolved. In this job also I made tremendous progress and reached the top position in computer services. Then in 1985 april/may, I quit the job with the wishful thinking of going into some real estate business. I did not have the patience and therefore in August 1985, I got an assignment as a database consultant. After this time until now I was never an employee in true sense. I got paid by number of hours I worked with no benefits. Can we consider this as being in business?

3. Third job was really the most rewarding job (was very lucrative and satisfying). It also came very easily. When I went for interview, it was someone I worked with before and there was no interview. I was treated like a king during this assignment. Made a ton of money all of which was lost during the stock market crash. This was a very well known investment banking company. But my job was to support a HR system.

4. Fourth job was again at the same company (after a break of about 7 months). My manager made up need document to bring me back. Again the job was very satisfying. It ended on March 14, 2004 and I haven't worked in computer field since then.

General: Getting job (consulting assignment) was always very hard and pain but once I started working, everything went in my favor. My superiors always protected me and promoted me. Since March 14, 2004 I am working as a life insurance broker, mortgage broker and a real estate agent with not much success. One thing I have observed is that all the companies I worked for, have gone bankrupt or are sold after I leave them or they let me go ::}. Other thing I have never worked as teacher of anything. After 1985, I never had a steady paycheck. Too many long gaps between assignments. My longest assignment started in Dec 1996.

To summarize my career: 1. Jobs came after much difficulty

2. Jobs were always very satisfying (financially and otherwise)

3. Superiors always protected and promoted me and gave me all the freedom.

4. Never really worked hard at the job, still never failed to deliver.

I don't know if this information is relavent to what we are doing here but I hope it is. It is like some dasa started in Jan 1969 and ended on March 2004.

One thing I forgot to mention that Rahu in transit dasamsa ( the lord of 5th house (aquarius) in natal dasama) was either in aquarius or leo in three cases and in fourth case aspecting aquarius. Is this significant?

Regards,

Pratap

Sourav <souravc108 > wrote:

|| Hare Raama Krsna ||

Dear Sri Prataap-ji,

Namaskar. A good point to start is reading the Dasaamsa lecture of Sri Sanjay Rath in London Conference 2004 (http://www.htmail4.com/conf) and the Dasamsa Pdf file in the Sohamsa Files section (one of the folders). Also Visti-ji's srigaruda.com mp3s.

May I kindly provide some comments about the chart ? One should start with Rasi, Navaamsa, Saptaamsa, Dasaamsa, Dwadasaamsa and Siddhaamsa Charts. Higher charts can be taken up only then. Afterwards, Praanapada, Kunda (lagna of D-81), Astottaraamsa, Vimsaamsa (2nd house shows Kula-devata) etc. can be taken up for fine tuning.

I have taken Nov 18, 1944, 20:42:47, 70E27, 21N44. Kindly provide further known events in other areas as indicated above. Also, always mention your reported time first, and also the name of your birth place, district etc. instead of just longitudes. There are several towns or villages with similar names and it is possible that querrants can make mistakes. Also, you didn't tell the nature of your job activities. Please provide.

With Kanya Dasamsa Lagna (per 20:38 time) the 7th house is strong and is habited by exalted Shukra and Rahu. However, 6th lord Rahu is in 7th and Shukra is in exchange with Guru. Guru is also owning a trine to 7th. This shows that initial start with jobs and moving over to business and working closely with an advisor. Also, 11th house is having a debilitated 8th lord Mangal and can show some unsteadiness in income.

However, since your career was predominantly jobs, I select Tula Dasamsa Lagna (20:42:47). With this, Lagnesha is in 6th house with 5th lord Rahu and Shukra Guru in exchange in 6th and 8th. Further, 6th house is aspected by 2nd lord Kuja in the 12-th and can show several changes of jobs with change in skill-levels required. Shukra is in exaltation and also lagnesha in MKS. This shows your job will be in micro-management (Shukra), something that you will not intrinsically like (MKS), working in research, heavy machineries (Rahu), some teaching activities (Guru involved) and routine work or construction or work in micro-electronics (Ketu). 5th lord is in the 5th house and that too Sun. So you should have a steady paycheck. Budha and Chandra in 4th house can show a lot of communication and bureaucratic environment at your office.

Vimsottari (Chandra) Dasa

Jan 27, 1969 : Shukra-Ketu-Guru/Sani

Dasa and antar-dasa are related to Artha-trikona and Pratyantar dasa is of Guru who is lord of 5th from AL. Sani is co-lord of 5th from Lagna and is also aspecting A5 and A5-lord.

May 10, 1976: Chandra-Mangal-Rahu

Chandra is 10th lord and Mangal is A5 lord in the 10th house. Rahu is lord of 5th from Lagna. This job could be related to engineering in a large corporation (Karka). Mangal is aspected bySani (labor) and Guru (advice).

December 13, 1996: Rahu-Guru-Chandra

October 22, 2001: Rahu-Budha-Mangal/Rahu

I will comment on the other jobs after you provide further information. Please provide further events as requested. Also please provide information on job environment, job functions etc.

Best wishes,

Sourav

================================================================

, Pratap Kaneria <pkaneria wrote:

>

> Dear Swami,

>

> Yes. Your memory is perfect. Your point in using d10 based on moon is indeed very important but I don't know any better. I am trying to use the knowledge collected from COVA and discussions in this group etc. I am hoping that more comments will be made that will further my knowledge.

>

> Regards,

>

> Pratap

>

> swami swami_rcs wrote:

> Dear Pratap.

> Nameste, To my memory you knew your birth time to be 20:40 ( your posting dated 17 feb 2006 or so ) then Visti rectified it to 20:38.Now you have taken 20:47, So May I understand you are fine tuning lagna degree by rectification.

> I wonder if For such a fine tuning reliance on D10 with Vimshottari dasa ( that too from moon position in D 10 ) is fine and appropiate tool? Not only this

> i am more surprised you are stating upto pran dasa for event varification? when most astrologer can hardly handle beyond pratyantra dasa in Natal rasi chart.

> Please post your findings it will be great leraning lession.

> OM TAT SAT.

> -

> Pratap Kaneria

>

> Saturday, September 09, 2006 8:03 AM

> [Om Krishna Guru] Birth time verifcation by d10 chart

>

> Dear Gurujans,

>

> For quite a while now I am reading and learning astrology in an effort to rectify my birthtime. I have been following a few posts on dasamsa reading that planets in 2nd and 6th houses are related to the beginning of jobs. I have had quite a few jobs in my career and I distinctly remember start dates of 4 jobs. I am presenting below the VD in effect at start time of these jobs. I would appreciate if you can make comments whether these dasas indicate if the birthtime I am using is valid or not. The birthtime I am using here is rectified based on my limited knowledge of d9 (marriage date), d7 (children) and d81 charts.

>

> My birthdata : Nov 18, 1944, 20:47, 70E27, 21N44

>

> D10 chart is as follows:

>

> Dasamsa D-10

> +--------------+

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ SaR / \ Ke / |

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ / Md \ / |

> | \ / \ / AL |

> | x As x GL Su |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / Me \ 7 / HL \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | Mo x Ma |

> | \ / \ / |

> | x x Gk |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / Ve \ / Ju \ |

> | / Ra \ / \ |

> +--------------+

>

> 1. Job Start date: Jan 27, 1969 ( 2nd job.. I quit the first one after 15 days)

>

> Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

> Rah MD: 1956-06-03 (8:35:30) - 1974-06-03 (23:08:22)

> Ven AD: 1967-12-23 (10:21:13) - 1970-12-23 (4:46:02)

> Rah PD: 1969-01-18 (4:24:33) - 1969-07-01 (23:12:14)

> Rah SD: 1969-01-18 (4:24:33) - 1969-02-11 (2:52:46)

> Sat PAD: 1969-01-24 (22:46:04) - 1969-01-28 (17:37:48)

> Rah: 1969-01-27 (15:52:31) - 1969-01-28 (5:30:34)

>

> 2. Job start date: May 10, 1976 (4th job.)

>

> Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

> Jup MD: 1974-06-03 (23:08:22) - 1990-06-04 (1:38:08) Lord of 6th house

> Jup AD: 1974-06-03 (23:08:22) - 1976-07-23 (18:33:44)

> Rah PD: 1976-03-26 (8:25:01) - 1976-07-23 (18:33:44)

> Sat SD: 1976-04-28 (15:08:31) - 1976-05-17 (11:40:35)

> Moon PAD: 1976-05-09 (10:48:20) - 1976-05-11 (0:34:00) How can I explain this?

> Ven: 1976-05-10 (16:22:57) - 1976-05-10 (22:40:40)

>

> 3. Job Start date: Dec 13, 1996 (nth job)

>

> Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

> Sat MD: 1990-06-04 (1:38:08) - 2009-06-03 (22:30:32)

> Ket AD: 1996-02-14 (17:04:43) - 1997-03-24 (21:55:56)

> Sat PD: 1996-11-26 (14:01:02) - 1997-01-27 (16:17:36)

> Merc SD: 1996-12-06 (10:51:40) - 1996-12-15 (6:07:13) How can I explain this?

> Jup PAD: 1996-12-12 (16:32:43) - 1996-12-13 (20:41:46)

> Rah: 1996-12-13 (16:28:26) - 1996-12-13 (20:41:46)

>

> 4. Job Start date: Oct 22, 2001 (n+1 the job)

>

> Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

> Sat MD: 1990-06-04 (1:38:08) - 2009-06-03 (22:30:32)

> Moon AD: 2001-05-06 (20:07:47) - 2002-12-08 (15:50:08) How can I explain this?

> Rah PD: 2001-07-30 (4:40:19) - 2001-10-25 (23:16:52)

> Mars SD: 2001-10-20 (23:03:50) - 2001-10-25 (23:16:52) How can I explain this?

> Sat PAD: 2001-10-22 (16:10:14) - 2001-10-23 (11:12:30)

> Sat: 2001-10-22 (16:10:14) - 2001-10-22 (19:11:06)

>

> Thanks in advance,

>

> Regards,

>

> Pratap

>

September 9, 2006

Dear Swami,

I am pleasantly surprised that you have a connection to my birthplace. I wonder where you are now. Dhoraji, when I grew up was really a beautiful city although I haven't been there since 1985, I dream of moving back there someday, although I hear that Dhoraji is not what it used to be. Did you learn jyotish from someone there or your interest just started then?

I really don't have much knowledge of d24 except that it is related to higher education. I have a book 'Varga Chakra' published by SJC that has a chapter on d24 (siddhamsa) and I have read that but haven't figured out how to apply that for rectification. Let me give you a couple of events that may be related to d24. I graduated as chemical engineer from UDCT in May 1966. Left India on Jan 20, 1967 and came to US to do masters. Got masters in dec 1967. Started PhD program in Jan 1968. Had to drop out after 1 semester to go back to India due to father's ill health. Please check if these events match d24.

You seem to think that my d10 chart with 20:47 time and my jobs are in agreement. I wonder what indications are there in D10 that show involuntary end of my career in March 2004 ? Can you shed some light on that?

Regards,

Pratap

swami <swami_rcs > wrote:

Dear pratap,

Nameste, Your details are relevent.Your observations in bold are a pointer that your birth time is near to accuracy.V th lord portends change in D 10 as Saurav pointed out.I was guessing what could be types of Job.Your explanation about it confirms what your chart shows.Now we can check D 24 also.By the way there is only one Dhoraji known and incidently i was in this city as communications incharge around 1973-74. and it was this city where i learned Jyotish .

-

Pratap Kaneria

Sunday, September 10, 2006 12:22 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Birth time verifcation by d10 chart

Dear Souravji,

Thanks for your comments. Allow me to provide some more details.

1. Place of my birth is Dhoraji, Gujarat. As far as I know there is no other Dhoraji in India.

2. By education I am a chemical engineer but never worked as an engineer. First job that I mention (jan 1969) was as a programmer developing computer applications for a process engineering firm (CHEMICO) who designed and built chemical plants worldwide. Since then I always worked on developing, implementing and supporting computer applications (software). Never touched a machine other than a computer keyboard. I was a regular employee at this firm. I did make quite a progress in this job. At end I was head of all computer services at this firm reporting to top management.

3. I started second job in a similar company (Stone&Webster) without a single days break between the two jobs. I did not have to look for this job. I was invited to come over. I moved to second job because first firm was being dissolved. In this job also I made tremendous progress and reached the top position in computer services. Then in 1985 april/may, I quit the job with the wishful thinking of going into some real estate business. I did not have the patience and therefore in August 1985, I got an assignment as a database consultant. After this time until now I was never an employee in true sense. I got paid by number of hours I worked with no benefits. Can we consider this as being in business?

3. Third job was really the most rewarding job (was very lucrative and satisfying). It also came very easily. When I went for interview, it was someone I worked with before and there was no interview. I was treated like a king during this assignment. Made a ton of money all of which was lost during the stock market crash. This was a very well known investment banking company. But my job was to support a HR system.

4. Fourth job was again at the same company (after a break of about 7 months). My manager made up need document to bring me back. Again the job was very satisfying. It ended on March 14, 2004 and I haven't worked in computer field since then.

General: Getting job (consulting assignment) was always very hard and pain but once I started working, everything went in my favor. My superiors always protected me and promoted me. Since March 14, 2004 I am working as a life insurance broker, mortgage broker and a real estate agent with not much success. One thing I have observed is that all the companies I worked for, have gone bankrupt or are sold after I leave them or they let me go ::}. Other thing I have never worked as teacher of anything. After 1985, I never had a steady paycheck. Too many long gaps between assignments. My longest assignment started in Dec 1996.

To summarize my career: 1. Jobs came after much difficulty

2. Jobs were always very satisfying (financially and otherwise)

3. Superiors always protected and promoted me and gave me all the freedom.

4. Never really worked hard at the job, still never failed to deliver.

I don't know if this information is relavent to what we are doing here but I hope it is. It is like some dasa started in Jan 1969 and ended on March 2004.

One thing I forgot to mention that Rahu in transit dasamsa ( the lord of 5th house (aquarius) in natal dasama) was either in aquarius or leo in three cases and in fourth case aspecting aquarius. Is this significant?

Regards,

Pratap

Sourav <souravc108 > wrote:

|| Hare Raama Krsna ||

Dear Sri Prataap-ji,

Namaskar. A good point to start is reading the Dasaamsa lecture of Sri Sanjay Rath in London Conference 2004 (http://www.htmail4.com/conf) and the Dasamsa Pdf file in the Sohamsa Files section (one of the folders). Also Visti-ji's srigaruda.com mp3s.

May I kindly provide some comments about the chart ? One should start with Rasi, Navaamsa, Saptaamsa, Dasaamsa, Dwadasaamsa and Siddhaamsa Charts. Higher charts can be taken up only then. Afterwards, Praanapada, Kunda (lagna of D-81), Astottaraamsa, Vimsaamsa (2nd house shows Kula-devata) etc. can be taken up for fine tuning.

I have taken Nov 18, 1944, 20:42:47, 70E27, 21N44. Kindly provide further known events in other areas as indicated above. Also, always mention your reported time first, and also the name of your birth place, district etc. instead of just longitudes. There are several towns or villages with similar names and it is possible that querrants can make mistakes. Also, you didn't tell the nature of your job activities. Please provide.

With Kanya Dasamsa Lagna (per 20:38 time) the 7th house is strong and is habited by exalted Shukra and Rahu. However, 6th lord Rahu is in 7th and Shukra is in exchange with Guru. Guru is also owning a trine to 7th. This shows that initial start with jobs and moving over to business and working closely with an advisor. Also, 11th house is having a debilitated 8th lord Mangal and can show some unsteadiness in income.

However, since your career was predominantly jobs, I select Tula Dasamsa Lagna (20:42:47). With this, Lagnesha is in 6th house with 5th lord Rahu and Shukra Guru in exchange in 6th and 8th. Further, 6th house is aspected by 2nd lord Kuja in the 12-th and can show several changes of jobs with change in skill-levels required. Shukra is in exaltation and also lagnesha in MKS. This shows your job will be in micro-management (Shukra), something that you will not intrinsically like (MKS), working in research, heavy machineries (Rahu), some teaching activities (Guru involved) and routine work or construction or work in micro-electronics (Ketu). 5th lord is in the 5th house and that too Sun. So you should have a steady paycheck. Budha and Chandra in 4th house can show a lot of communication and bureaucratic environment at your office.

Vimsottari (Chandra) Dasa

Jan 27, 1969 : Shukra-Ketu-Guru/Sani

Dasa and antar-dasa are related to Artha-trikona and Pratyantar dasa is of Guru who is lord of 5th from AL. Sani is co-lord of 5th from Lagna and is also aspecting A5 and A5-lord.

May 10, 1976: Chandra-Mangal-Rahu

Chandra is 10th lord and Mangal is A5 lord in the 10th house. Rahu is lord of 5th from Lagna. This job could be related to engineering in a large corporation (Karka). Mangal is aspected bySani (labor) and Guru (advice).

December 13, 1996: Rahu-Guru-Chandra

October 22, 2001: Rahu-Budha-Mangal/Rahu

I will comment on the other jobs after you provide further information. Please provide further events as requested. Also please provide information on job environment, job functions etc.

Best wishes,

Sourav

================================================================

, Pratap Kaneria <pkaneria wrote:

>

> Dear Swami,

>

> Yes. Your memory is perfect. Your point in using d10 based on moon is indeed very important but I don't know any better. I am trying to use the knowledge collected from COVA and discussions in this group etc. I am hoping that more comments will be made that will further my knowledge.

>

> Regards,

>

> Pratap

>

> swami swami_rcs wrote:

> Dear Pratap.

> Nameste, To my memory you knew your birth time to be 20:40 ( your posting dated 17 feb 2006 or so ) then Visti rectified it to 20:38.Now you have taken 20:47, So May I understand you are fine tuning lagna degree by rectification.

> I wonder if For such a fine tuning reliance on D10 with Vimshottari dasa ( that too from moon position in D 10 ) is fine and appropiate tool? Not only this

> i am more surprised you are stating upto pran dasa for event varification? when most astrologer can hardly handle beyond pratyantra dasa in Natal rasi chart.

> Please post your findings it will be great leraning lession.

> OM TAT SAT.

> -

> Pratap Kaneria

>

> Saturday, September 09, 2006 8:03 AM

> [Om Krishna Guru] Birth time verifcation by d10 chart

>

> Dear Gurujans,

>

> For quite a while now I am reading and learning astrology in an effort to rectify my birthtime. I have been following a few posts on dasamsa reading that planets in 2nd and 6th houses are related to the beginning of jobs. I have had quite a few jobs in my career and I distinctly remember start dates of 4 jobs. I am presenting below the VD in effect at start time of these jobs. I would appreciate if you can make comments whether these dasas indicate if the birthtime I am using is valid or not. The birthtime I am using here is rectified based on my limited knowledge of d9 (marriage date), d7 (children) and d81 charts.

>

> My birthdata : Nov 18, 1944, 20:47, 70E27, 21N44

>

> D10 chart is as follows:

>

> Dasamsa D-10

> +--------------+

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ SaR / \ Ke / |

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ / Md \ / |

> | \ / \ / AL |

> | x As x GL Su |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / Me \ 7 / HL \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | Mo x Ma |

> | \ / \ / |

> | x x Gk |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / Ve \ / Ju \ |

> | / Ra \ / \ |

> +--------------+

>

> 1. Job Start date: Jan 27, 1969 ( 2nd job.. I quit the first one after 15 days)

>

> Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

> Rah MD: 1956-06-03 (8:35:30) - 1974-06-03 (23:08:22)

> Ven AD: 1967-12-23 (10:21:13) - 1970-12-23 (4:46:02)

> Rah PD: 1969-01-18 (4:24:33) - 1969-07-01 (23:12:14)

> Rah SD: 1969-01-18 (4:24:33) - 1969-02-11 (2:52:46)

> Sat PAD: 1969-01-24 (22:46:04) - 1969-01-28 (17:37:48)

> Rah: 1969-01-27 (15:52:31) - 1969-01-28 (5:30:34)

>

> 2. Job start date: May 10, 1976 (4th job.)

>

> Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

> Jup MD: 1974-06-03 (23:08:22) - 1990-06-04 (1:38:08) Lord of 6th house

> Jup AD: 1974-06-03 (23:08:22) - 1976-07-23 (18:33:44)

> Rah PD: 1976-03-26 (8:25:01) - 1976-07-23 (18:33:44)

> Sat SD: 1976-04-28 (15:08:31) - 1976-05-17 (11:40:35)

> Moon PAD: 1976-05-09 (10:48:20) - 1976-05-11 (0:34:00) How can I explain this?

> Ven: 1976-05-10 (16:22:57) - 1976-05-10 (22:40:40)

>

> 3. Job Start date: Dec 13, 1996 (nth job)

>

> Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

> Sat MD: 1990-06-04 (1:38:08) - 2009-06-03 (22:30:32)

> Ket AD: 1996-02-14 (17:04:43) - 1997-03-24 (21:55:56)

> Sat PD: 1996-11-26 (14:01:02) - 1997-01-27 (16:17:36)

> Merc SD: 1996-12-06 (10:51:40) - 1996-12-15 (6:07:13) How can I explain this?

> Jup PAD: 1996-12-12 (16:32:43) - 1996-12-13 (20:41:46)

> Rah: 1996-12-13 (16:28:26) - 1996-12-13 (20:41:46)

>

> 4. Job Start date: Oct 22, 2001 (n+1 the job)

>

> Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon, using D-10):

> Sat MD: 1990-06-04 (1:38:08) - 2009-06-03 (22:30:32)

> Moon AD: 2001-05-06 (20:07:47) - 2002-12-08 (15:50:08) How can I explain this?

> Rah PD: 2001-07-30 (4:40:19) - 2001-10-25 (23:16:52)

> Mars SD: 2001-10-20 (23:03:50) - 2001-10-25 (23:16:52) How can I explain this?

> Sat PAD: 2001-10-22 (16:10:14) - 2001-10-23 (11:12:30)

> Sat: 2001-10-22 (16:10:14) - 2001-10-22 (19:11:06)

>

> Thanks in advance,

>

> Regards,

>

> Pratap

>

September 9, 2006

Dear Rafal ji,

I am trying to figure out if you agree with d10 chart with 20:47

time. Some of the general things you have obsereved are correct. My

only source of income has always been my work for someone else. I

started many businesses and invested in others with no success.

Getting a new job/assignment was always difficult except the one job

started on May 10, 1976. The jobs once obtained were very

satisfactory and rewarding. I gave lot more details on the jobs I

had in email to Shri Sourvaji. I never had to travel to a foreign

country in relation to jobs.

If you can, please comment what placements indicate involuntary end

of my career on March 2004.

Thanks and regards,

Pratap

, "Rafal Gendarz"

<starsuponme wrote:

>

> Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah

> Dear Pratap,

>

> INTRODUCTION

> Buddha in forth in dasamsa is bad position for career and Ra/Sk in

sixth bhava while the seventh is empty shows that job is more strong

option than buisness for You and as 2L, 7L from AL are involved in

curse the begining should be problematic for You (after 73 should be

better and then after 97). That shukra is with your fifth lord in d-

10 so finding new job should also be a task. As Rahu lords 4 from

Surya new availability should come after demise of someone from

motherside (preta in Lagna).

>

> Lets see that events with eyes of Jyotisa:

>

> a.. First job: Jan 1969

> a.. Dasa Shukra-Sikhi

> a.. D-10 -> Shukra is in sixth lord with fifth lord

giving new opportunities and job issue, as it is eight lord its not

something stationary and You would consider something else. Shukra

is exalted so You had high ambitions in Your job. Ketu has argal on

fifth lord and lords second bhava giving new drive towards work or

accumalating money.

> b.. In Rasi both influence Rajya Pada, Shukra is in 3 in d-3

> c.. In D-2 both influence HL

> d.. In D-9 Ke is Lord of 10H

> b.. Second job: May 1976

> a.. Dasa Chandra-Mangal

> a.. Both influence tenth bhava in D-10

> b.. In Rasi Chandra is with A10 and A10 is in 2 from Mangal -

activating, chandra is in third in D-3

> c.. In D-2 Chandra influence HL and Mangal is in kona to HL

which is good.. Mangal lord third which shows short trips/writings

and eight which gives some debts or work promised to someone,

Chandra is in seventh bhava so whole mahadasa is connected to

partners and travelings

> d.. In D-9 Mangal is 10L and Chandra is lording artha trikona

>

> a.. Third job: Dec 1996

> a.. Dasa Rahu-Guru

> a.. Rahu shows new beginning and training Your skills in

work, being with eight lord exalted can show ending of something or

shortterms project. It was something personal - Lagnesh involved.

Having argal on forth from Surya gives availability...

> b.. Guru being in eigth shows quick job issue and not stable

with lot of vacation. there could be more temptation towards job

(argal on 7).

> c.. In D-1 Rahu will give some cheating and in Guru

antardasa You will realise that cheating.. Guru will however give

contacts and good social issue in your group connected to job (10

from Mo)

> d.. In D-2 Both aspects HL, being in 10 from Lagna shows

concrete job issue. Being sixth and seventh lords shows struggle and

partnership in that time. however lack of peace regarding money

issue..

>

> a.. Forth job: Oct 2001

> a.. Dasa Rahu-Buddha

> a.. Buddha will give job intervening in Your office and some

dynamism connected to Your place of work.(dharmakarmadhipati)

> b.. Buddha also can give foreign travel or some foreign

elements in Your place..but You will have good time in Your job

(benefics in forth)

> c.. D-2/Buddha lords 7 from HL and being in third from L

shows money from short trips/writing/digging/occult(vrscik)

> d.. D-9/Buddha is with 10L

> e.. Buddha is in twelfth from Moon and sixth showing some

revolt in Your work, and You can be little rebelian, there can be

also some strain in maritial life due to that..some debts You can

have also (8 from AL)

>

> a.. All that works providing chart is accurate.

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> -

> Pratap Kaneria

>

> Saturday, September 09, 2006 4:33 AM