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Dear Members,

 

I have often read of palmists that can draw an accurate kundali simply

by reading the palm.

 

In this context, I was interested to learn about what indications in

the birth cart can be linked to a simian line (joining of the head and

heart line).

 

Thank you,

 

Maniv

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Dear mr.Maniv,

 

Simian life denotes either the person does not have head line or

either no heart line. This depends on the nearness of the lines to

the bottom joints of the fingers,known as mounts.

 

I do not think that anyone till date has linked Simian line to astro-

chart. But if the person is heartless as seen by the Krura grahas

aflicting the Lagna or 5th house and also Leo, and also

confirmed by Simian line being more near the Life line then we can

conclude the Link. Same explanation for Simian Line (Head Line).

In this case factors relating to Mars,Aries, Mercury and Moon.

 

The above are my personal views.

I will not be able to explain much on this as this needs research.

first to find many natives with Simian lines in their hands, and then

also match their charts with findings on palm.

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

, "maniv1321" <maniv1321

wrote:

>

> Dear Members,

>

> I have often read of palmists that can draw an accurate kundali

simply

> by reading the palm.

>

> In this context, I was interested to learn about what indications

in

> the birth cart can be linked to a simian line (joining of the head

and

> heart line).

>

> Thank you,

>

> Maniv

>

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Read R.G. Rao's tiny, pithy and difficult to understand pocket books --

Your natal chart from the palm, your destiny from your thumb, etc. You

will enjoy those if you persevere!

 

RR

 

, "maniv1321" <maniv1321

wrote:

>

> Dear Members,

>

> I have often read of palmists that can draw an accurate kundali

simply

> by reading the palm.

>

> In this context, I was interested to learn about what indications in

> the birth cart can be linked to a simian line (joining of the head

and

> heart line).

>

> Thank you,

>

> Maniv

>

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Dear Maniv,

 

I also remember Mr.R.G.Rao who has written books on how to draw a

chart as per lines on hands. One more book Astro-Palmistry by

Shri.Lr. Chawdhury. But I would not advise natives to try that. Its

not easy.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

, "maniv1321" <maniv1321

wrote:

>

> Dear Members,

>

> I have often read of palmists that can draw an accurate kundali

simply

> by reading the palm.

>

> In this context, I was interested to learn about what indications

in

> the birth cart can be linked to a simian line (joining of the head

and

> heart line).

>

> Thank you,

>

> Maniv

>

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Dear Bhaskar/Maniv,

I am sharing a chart of a native with a Simian Line.

Native has an ample amount of both head and heart but has been unfortunate the last 7 yrs.

He has incurred Rs 1cr of debt on a failed business, and fled the loan sharks in India and come to the US illegally.

He is currently managing 2 fastfood places and works like a dog 12-14 hrs a day 7 days a week, to pay off his creditors and support family in India whom he has not seen since 1999.

For your research purposes the details are

Oct 2, 1962

00:02 am, Bombay, India

soumit guha

java_sgt

 

 

 

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in>

 

Saturday, September 9, 2006 9:48:21 AM

Re: Simian Line link to Birth chart

 

Dear mr.Maniv,

 

Simian life denotes either the person does not have head line or

either no heart line. This depends on the nearness of the lines to

the bottom joints of the fingers,known as mounts.

 

I do not think that anyone till date has linked Simian line to astro-

chart. But if the person is heartless as seen by the Krura grahas

aflicting the Lagna or 5th house and also Leo, and also

confirmed by Simian line being more near the Life line then we can

conclude the Link. Same explanation for Simian Line (Head Line).

In this case factors relating to Mars,Aries, Mercury and Moon.

 

The above are my personal views.

I will not be able to explain much on this as this needs research.

first to find many natives with Simian lines in their hands, and then

also match their charts with findings on palm.

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

, "maniv1321" <maniv1321@. ..>

wrote:

>

> Dear Members,

>

> I have often read of palmists that can draw an accurate kundali

simply

> by reading the palm.

>

> In this context, I was interested to learn about what indications

in

> the birth cart can be linked to a simian line (joining of the head

and

> heart line).

>

> Thank you,

>

> Maniv

>

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Sir,

 

Thanks for sharing the info.

Before we spend some time on this, can you tell us whether

the Simian line is near the life Line or ie.below the lower half

of the palm,

OR

On the upper half side ie.more neare to the Mounts below the bottom

end of the fingers or in other words below and more bear

the the third phalanges.

 

Now here the question of ample amount or head is defined in another

way. Some are very emotional and cry even at emotional scenes seen

on TV soap operas. And some are so emotionless that nothing would

move them to tears. Heart ruling over head, or head ruling over heart

is more predominant in such natives. Some may be really rigid while

reprimanding and punishment or passing judgement. Some may have

more of sympathy or pity in their nature. Emotional plane

or practical plane. Flexibility or rigidity. These facets will be

noticed only at times of adversity or in abundance of joy.

otherwise they will behave perfectly normal.,apparently.

 

Anyway I am not a contender for judging horoscopes of

Simians and commenting on their behaviour patterns. I would

always like to be neither on their side nor against.

I have reasons for that best not elaborated.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

, Soumit Guha <java_sgt

wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar/Maniv,

> I am sharing a chart of a native with a Simian Line.

> Native has an ample amount of both head and heart but has been

unfortunate the last 7 yrs.

> He has incurred Rs 1cr of debt on a failed business, and fled the

loan sharks in India and come to the US illegally.

> He is currently managing 2 fastfood places and works like a dog 12-

14 hrs a day 7 days a week, to pay off his creditors and support

family in India whom he has not seen since 1999.

>

> For your research purposes the details are

> Oct 2, 1962

> 00:02 am, Bombay, India

> soumit guha

> java_sgt

>

>

>

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish

>

> Saturday, September 9, 2006 9:48:21 AM

> Re: Simian Line link to Birth chart

>

> Dear mr.Maniv,

>

> Simian life denotes either the person does not have head line or

> either no heart line. This depends on the nearness of the lines to

> the bottom joints of the fingers,known as mounts.

>

> I do not think that anyone till date has linked Simian line to

astro-

> chart. But if the person is heartless as seen by the Krura grahas

> aflicting the Lagna or 5th house and also Leo, and also

> confirmed by Simian line being more near the Life line then we can

> conclude the Link. Same explanation for Simian Line (Head Line).

> In this case factors relating to Mars,Aries, Mercury and Moon.

>

> The above are my personal views.

> I will not be able to explain much on this as this needs research.

> first to find many natives with Simian lines in their hands, and

then

> also match their charts with findings on palm.

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , "maniv1321"

<maniv1321@ ..>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Members,

> >

> > I have often read of palmists that can draw an accurate kundali

> simply

> > by reading the palm.

> >

> > In this context, I was interested to learn about what indications

> in

> > the birth cart can be linked to a simian line (joining of the

head

> and

> > heart line).

> >

> > Thank you,

> >

> > Maniv

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Bhaskarbhai,

 

Thank you for your comments.

 

Being in London will make obtaining the recommended books difficult.

 

Interestingly, a native without a heart line whose birth details I

have has Mars with Saturn (as well as the Moon) in the 5th house

(Leo). Mars is of course the lagnesh. This would fit into your

criteria perfectly. Although not heartless, he does tend to

oscillate between the two extremes (emotional- aggressive).

 

I am curious as to the rationale behind your highlighting of Leo/5th

house. I take the 4th house for the heart, although I know many use

the 5th (borrowed from Western astrology).In any case yuo input

would shed would be valued.

 

Regards

 

Maniv

 

 

 

, "Bhaskar"

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear mr.Maniv,

>

> Simian life denotes either the person does not have head line or

> either no heart line. This depends on the nearness of the lines to

> the bottom joints of the fingers,known as mounts.

>

> I do not think that anyone till date has linked Simian line to

astro-

> chart. But if the person is heartless as seen by the Krura grahas

> aflicting the Lagna or 5th house and also Leo, and also

> confirmed by Simian line being more near the Life line then we can

> conclude the Link. Same explanation for Simian Line (Head Line).

> In this case factors relating to Mars,Aries, Mercury and Moon.

>

> The above are my personal views.

> I will not be able to explain much on this as this needs research.

> first to find many natives with Simian lines in their hands, and

then

> also match their charts with findings on palm.

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

> , "maniv1321" <maniv1321@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Members,

> >

> > I have often read of palmists that can draw an accurate kundali

> simply

> > by reading the palm.

> >

> > In this context, I was interested to learn about what

indications

> in

> > the birth cart can be linked to a simian line (joining of the

head

> and

> > heart line).

> >

> > Thank you,

> >

> > Maniv

> >

>

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Dear Bhaskar,

I have lost contact with the native after my cell phone

rebooted and vanished my address book. So I will recollect from

memory that his heart/head line ran straight across the middle of

his palm more like the head line.

He just wanted to know if he would be reunited with his

family and if so when. If and when he contacts me I shall be able to

furnish you with more data.

 

Thanks for your time and effort

Soumit

 

 

, "Bhaskar"

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Sir,

>

> Thanks for sharing the info.

> Before we spend some time on this, can you tell us whether

> the Simian line is near the life Line or ie.below the lower half

> of the palm,

> OR

> On the upper half side ie.more neare to the Mounts below the

bottom

> end of the fingers or in other words below and more bear

> the the third phalanges.

>

> Now here the question of ample amount or head is defined in

another

> way. Some are very emotional and cry even at emotional scenes seen

> on TV soap operas. And some are so emotionless that nothing would

> move them to tears. Heart ruling over head, or head ruling over

heart

> is more predominant in such natives. Some may be really rigid

while

> reprimanding and punishment or passing judgement. Some may have

> more of sympathy or pity in their nature. Emotional plane

> or practical plane. Flexibility or rigidity. These facets will be

> noticed only at times of adversity or in abundance of joy.

> otherwise they will behave perfectly normal.,apparently.

>

> Anyway I am not a contender for judging horoscopes of

> Simians and commenting on their behaviour patterns. I would

> always like to be neither on their side nor against.

> I have reasons for that best not elaborated.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , Soumit Guha <java_sgt@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar/Maniv,

> > I am sharing a chart of a native with a Simian Line.

> > Native has an ample amount of both head and heart but has been

> unfortunate the last 7 yrs.

> > He has incurred Rs 1cr of debt on a failed business, and fled

the

> loan sharks in India and come to the US illegally.

> > He is currently managing 2 fastfood places and works like a dog

12-

> 14 hrs a day 7 days a week, to pay off his creditors and support

> family in India whom he has not seen since 1999.

> >

> > For your research purposes the details are

> > Oct 2, 1962

> > 00:02 am, Bombay, India

> > soumit guha

> > java_sgt@

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> >

> > Saturday, September 9, 2006 9:48:21 AM

> > Re: Simian Line link to Birth chart

> >

> > Dear mr.Maniv,

> >

> > Simian life denotes either the person does not have head line or

> > either no heart line. This depends on the nearness of the lines

to

> > the bottom joints of the fingers,known as mounts.

> >

> > I do not think that anyone till date has linked Simian line to

> astro-

> > chart. But if the person is heartless as seen by the Krura

grahas

> > aflicting the Lagna or 5th house and also Leo, and also

> > confirmed by Simian line being more near the Life line then we

can

> > conclude the Link. Same explanation for Simian Line (Head Line).

> > In this case factors relating to Mars,Aries, Mercury and Moon.

> >

> > The above are my personal views.

> > I will not be able to explain much on this as this needs

research.

> > first to find many natives with Simian lines in their hands, and

> then

> > also match their charts with findings on palm.

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , "maniv1321"

> <maniv1321@ ..>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > I have often read of palmists that can draw an accurate

kundali

> > simply

> > > by reading the palm.

> > >

> > > In this context, I was interested to learn about what

indications

> > in

> > > the birth cart can be linked to a simian line (joining of the

> head

> > and

> > > heart line).

> > >

> > > Thank you,

> > >

> > > Maniv

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Maniv Bhai,

 

I have not yet studied Western Astrology,as dont want to mix up both

systems in entirety without having gained some minimum expertise in

few facets of Indian astrology, and hence dont want to influence these

studies.

 

I normally take the Chest portion to be ruled by the 4th Sign Cancer,

and,

The Sun which rules Leo as the heart pointer.also 5th Raashi,

apart from other parts of body like stomache etc. depending on the

individual horoscope.

If You know all Leo natives have mostly to fear about heart

problems,high BP, coronoray thombosis etc.

 

You need not buy those books, as I said we need other support by

Karna Pishachini Mantra etc. to know about such things.

Books cannot help one draw a chart just by looking at the palm.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

, "maniv1321" <maniv1321

wrote:

>

> Bhaskarbhai,

>

> Thank you for your comments.

>

> Being in London will make obtaining the recommended books difficult.

>

> Interestingly, a native without a heart line whose birth details I

> have has Mars with Saturn (as well as the Moon) in the 5th house

> (Leo). Mars is of course the lagnesh. This would fit into your

> criteria perfectly. Although not heartless, he does tend to

> oscillate between the two extremes (emotional- aggressive).

>

> I am curious as to the rationale behind your highlighting of

Leo/5th

> house. I take the 4th house for the heart, although I know many use

> the 5th (borrowed from Western astrology).In any case yuo input

> would shed would be valued.

>

> Regards

>

> Maniv

>

>

>

> , "Bhaskar"

> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear mr.Maniv,

> >

> > Simian life denotes either the person does not have head line or

> > either no heart line. This depends on the nearness of the lines

to

> > the bottom joints of the fingers,known as mounts.

> >

> > I do not think that anyone till date has linked Simian line to

> astro-

> > chart. But if the person is heartless as seen by the Krura grahas

> > aflicting the Lagna or 5th house and also Leo, and also

> > confirmed by Simian line being more near the Life line then we

can

> > conclude the Link. Same explanation for Simian Line (Head Line).

> > In this case factors relating to Mars,Aries, Mercury and Moon.

> >

> > The above are my personal views.

> > I will not be able to explain much on this as this needs research.

> > first to find many natives with Simian lines in their hands, and

> then

> > also match their charts with findings on palm.

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> > , "maniv1321" <maniv1321@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > I have often read of palmists that can draw an accurate kundali

> > simply

> > > by reading the palm.

> > >

> > > In this context, I was interested to learn about what

> indications

> > in

> > > the birth cart can be linked to a simian line (joining of the

> head

> > and

> > > heart line).

> > >

> > > Thank you,

> > >

> > > Maniv

> > >

> >

>

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Maniv,

 

You can try a web-seller like www.astroamerica.com for getting RG Rao's

books or any other on astrology and jyotish, etc.

 

In fact given the popularity of jyotish and astrology in U.K., I would

not be surprised if there were web-sellers there as well.

 

Nothing ventured, nothing gained, opinions notwithstanding ...!

 

Speaking of simians, the simian line has been associated with Down's

syndrome (earlier known as Mongolism). Dermatoglyphics is a very

interesting area of palmistry (other than divination) and I have been

told that there are a significant number of palm-patterns that are

associated or correlated with medical disorders etc.

 

Again, this is general non subjective information (opinions?) to be

pursued by those interested and not to be taken in any other way! ;-)

 

RR

 

 

 

, "maniv1321" <maniv1321

wrote:

> Being in London will make obtaining the recommended books difficult.

>

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Dear maniv,

 

It makes a native using either heart or head (on extreme extent) for

his matters. So many a times - people may find him very

materialistic / ruthless / cold or highly emotional person.

 

While studying palmistry long back, I observed this behaviour in lot

many people. You may also observe interesting trend for such natives.

If you see their parents / grand parents' chart - then you will also

observe the similar line (heart line dropping into head line, while

head line being straight across the palm).

 

In my view / observation - mutual relation of mars / moon is indicated

in such natives.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

, "maniv1321" <maniv1321

wrote:

>

> Dear Members,

>

> I have often read of palmists that can draw an accurate kundali simply

> by reading the palm.

>

> In this context, I was interested to learn about what indications in

> the birth cart can be linked to a simian line (joining of the head and

> heart line).

>

> Thank you,

>

> Maniv

>

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Dear Soumit ji,

 

In my observation of palmistry - this line does not indicate

misfortune. It is more around the application of heart / head.

 

Astrologically speaking, there must be some factors for such financial

debacle in the chart. Generally speaking - dhan yoga must be read with

the dhan sustaining and damaging factors.

 

regards / Prafulla

 

regards / Prafulla

 

, Soumit Guha <java_sgt wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar/Maniv,

> I am sharing a chart of a native with a Simian Line.

> Native has an ample amount of both head and heart but has been

unfortunate the last 7 yrs.

> He has incurred Rs 1cr of debt on a failed business, and fled the

loan sharks in India and come to the US illegally.

> He is currently managing 2 fastfood places and works like a dog

12-14 hrs a day 7 days a week, to pay off his creditors and support

family in India whom he has not seen since 1999.

>

> For your research purposes the details are

> Oct 2, 1962

> 00:02 am, Bombay, India

> soumit guha

> java_sgt

>

>

>

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish

>

> Saturday, September 9, 2006 9:48:21 AM

> Re: Simian Line link to Birth chart

>

> Dear mr.Maniv,

>

> Simian life denotes either the person does not have head line or

> either no heart line. This depends on the nearness of the lines to

> the bottom joints of the fingers,known as mounts.

>

> I do not think that anyone till date has linked Simian line to astro-

> chart. But if the person is heartless as seen by the Krura grahas

> aflicting the Lagna or 5th house and also Leo, and also

> confirmed by Simian line being more near the Life line then we can

> conclude the Link. Same explanation for Simian Line (Head Line).

> In this case factors relating to Mars,Aries, Mercury and Moon.

>

> The above are my personal views.

> I will not be able to explain much on this as this needs research.

> first to find many natives with Simian lines in their hands, and then

> also match their charts with findings on palm.

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , "maniv1321" <maniv1321@ ..>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Members,

> >

> > I have often read of palmists that can draw an accurate kundali

> simply

> > by reading the palm.

> >

> > In this context, I was interested to learn about what indications

> in

> > the birth cart can be linked to a simian line (joining of the head

> and

> > heart line).

> >

> > Thank you,

> >

> > Maniv

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Prafullabhai

 

The simian line certainly indicates an extreme personality - the

word that springs to mind is intensity. Either the thinking process

is dominated by emotions or the emotions are dominated by the

rational faculty of the mind.

 

It interesting that you attribute the planetary influences to

Moon/Mars. Moon definitely represents emotions and their source (4th

house/heart) but also the mind. So in a sense an affliction to the

Moon, as you mention, should be present. Mars would represent

logic/coldness and its debilitation in the emotional sign

representing the heart (Cancer) further adds weight to it being the

anti-thesis of the issues of the heart.

 

In your observations has Mars been close to the 4th house/Cancer?

 

Regards,

 

Maniv

 

 

 

, "Prafulla Gang"

<jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear maniv,

>

> It makes a native using either heart or head (on extreme extent)

for

> his matters. So many a times - people may find him very

> materialistic / ruthless / cold or highly emotional person.

>

> While studying palmistry long back, I observed this behaviour in

lot

> many people. You may also observe interesting trend for such

natives.

> If you see their parents / grand parents' chart - then you will

also

> observe the similar line (heart line dropping into head line, while

> head line being straight across the palm).

>

> In my view / observation - mutual relation of mars / moon is

indicated

> in such natives.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> , "maniv1321" <maniv1321@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Members,

> >

> > I have often read of palmists that can draw an accurate kundali

simply

> > by reading the palm.

> >

> > In this context, I was interested to learn about what

indications in

> > the birth cart can be linked to a simian line (joining of the

head and

> > heart line).

> >

> > Thank you,

> >

> > Maniv

> >

>

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Prafullabhai

 

The simian line certainly indicates an extreme personality - the

word that springs to mind is intensity. Either the thinking process

is dominated by emotions or the emotions are dominated by the

rational faculty of the mind.

 

It interesting that you attribute the planetary influences to

Moon/Mars. Moon definitely represents emotions and their source (4th

house/heart) but also the mind. So in a sense an affliction to the

Moon, as you mention, should be present. Mars would represent

logic/coldness and its debilitation in the emotional sign

representing the heart (Cancer) further adds weight to it being the

anti-thesis of the issues of the heart.

 

In your observations has Mars been close to the 4th house/Cancer?

 

Regards,

 

Maniv

 

 

 

, "Prafulla Gang"

<jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear maniv,

>

> It makes a native using either heart or head (on extreme extent)

for

> his matters. So many a times - people may find him very

> materialistic / ruthless / cold or highly emotional person.

>

> While studying palmistry long back, I observed this behaviour in

lot

> many people. You may also observe interesting trend for such

natives.

> If you see their parents / grand parents' chart - then you will

also

> observe the similar line (heart line dropping into head line, while

> head line being straight across the palm).

>

> In my view / observation - mutual relation of mars / moon is

indicated

> in such natives.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> , "maniv1321" <maniv1321@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Members,

> >

> > I have often read of palmists that can draw an accurate kundali

simply

> > by reading the palm.

> >

> > In this context, I was interested to learn about what

indications in

> > the birth cart can be linked to a simian line (joining of the

head and

> > heart line).

> >

> > Thank you,

> >

> > Maniv

> >

>

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Note that Mars is debilitated in Cancer (also in Navamsa) and

aspects the Moon, which is in the 5th house. Saturn also aspects

Mars and the Moon. These indications seem to tie in with the

contributions of Bhaskarbhai/ Parafullabhai. Although Venus and

Jupiter also aspect the Moon, some link is evident albeit on the

basis of a very low number of observations.

 

 

, "Prafulla Gang"

<jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Soumit ji,

>

> In my observation of palmistry - this line does not indicate

> misfortune. It is more around the application of heart / head.

>

> Astrologically speaking, there must be some factors for such

financial

> debacle in the chart. Generally speaking - dhan yoga must be read

with

> the dhan sustaining and damaging factors.

>

> regards / Prafulla

>

> regards / Prafulla

>

> , Soumit Guha <java_sgt@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar/Maniv,

> > I am sharing a chart of a native with a Simian Line.

> > Native has an ample amount of both head and heart but has been

> unfortunate the last 7 yrs.

> > He has incurred Rs 1cr of debt on a failed business, and fled the

> loan sharks in India and come to the US illegally.

> > He is currently managing 2 fastfood places and works like a dog

> 12-14 hrs a day 7 days a week, to pay off his creditors and support

> family in India whom he has not seen since 1999.

> >

> > For your research purposes the details are

> > Oct 2, 1962

> > 00:02 am, Bombay, India

> > soumit guha

> > java_sgt@

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> >

> > Saturday, September 9, 2006 9:48:21 AM

> > Re: Simian Line link to Birth chart

> >

> > Dear mr.Maniv,

> >

> > Simian life denotes either the person does not have head line or

> > either no heart line. This depends on the nearness of the lines

to

> > the bottom joints of the fingers,known as mounts.

> >

> > I do not think that anyone till date has linked Simian line to

astro-

> > chart. But if the person is heartless as seen by the Krura

grahas

> > aflicting the Lagna or 5th house and also Leo, and also

> > confirmed by Simian line being more near the Life line then we

can

> > conclude the Link. Same explanation for Simian Line (Head Line).

> > In this case factors relating to Mars,Aries, Mercury and Moon.

> >

> > The above are my personal views.

> > I will not be able to explain much on this as this needs

research.

> > first to find many natives with Simian lines in their hands, and

then

> > also match their charts with findings on palm.

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , "maniv1321"

<maniv1321@ ..>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > I have often read of palmists that can draw an accurate

kundali

> > simply

> > > by reading the palm.

> > >

> > > In this context, I was interested to learn about what

indications

> > in

> > > the birth cart can be linked to a simian line (joining of the

head

> > and

> > > heart line).

> > >

> > > Thank you,

> > >

> > > Maniv

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Absolutely Maniv, not all Down's individuals have this finding

(Trisomy is a more fool-proof indicator ;-)

 

And, I personally have nothing against theorising -- in fact given

the nature of much of jyotish writings available, it is a useful

practice for most (perhaps not all) students and practitioners to

indulge in same.

 

Kind regards,

 

RR

 

, "maniv1321" <maniv1321

wrote:

>

> I am aware of the link with Down's syndrome; in fact many doctors

> check the palms of new born babies for a simian line as its

presence

> vastly increases the likelihood of developing this syndrome.

However

> this doesn't apply to all natives with a simian line – a good

> example being Tony Blair.

>

> My curiosity lies in the astrological combinations of a birth chart

> that may imply the existence of such a line. Of course one need not

> speak from observations /experience, theorising can also pride some

> pointers.

>

> Regards

>

> Maniv

> , "crystal pages"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Maniv,

> >

> > You can try a web-seller like www.astroamerica.com for getting RG

> Rao's

> > books or any other on astrology and jyotish, etc.

> >

> > In fact given the popularity of jyotish and astrology in U.K., I

> would

> > not be surprised if there were web-sellers there as well.

> >

> > Nothing ventured, nothing gained, opinions notwithstanding ...!

> >

> > Speaking of simians, the simian line has been associated with

> Down's

> > syndrome (earlier known as Mongolism). Dermatoglyphics is a very

> > interesting area of palmistry (other than divination) and I have

> been

> > told that there are a significant number of palm-patterns that

are

> > associated or correlated with medical disorders etc.

> >

> > Again, this is general non subjective information (opinions?) to

> be

> > pursued by those interested and not to be taken in any other

> way! ;-)

> >

> > RR

> >

> >

> >

> > , "maniv1321" <maniv1321@>

> > wrote:

> > > Being in London will make obtaining the recommended books

> difficult.

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Prafulla/Maniv,

The native does not have a dearth of wealth. He alway was a high roller and lived well in India.

Over here his living conditions are definetly poor, but all that is relative.He is the king of his realm with several to his becokning.

When I met him, I found him to be quite comfortable, all needs taken care off. He threw a fest and we partied.

I think those palnets in the 8th house in Rasi (debts) have to do with it. I guess you have to accept your lumps too, when you take big risks.

 

soumit guha

java_sgt

 

 

 

 

maniv1321 <maniv1321 (AT) (DOT) co.uk>

 

Saturday, September 9, 2006 3:34:46 PM

Re: Simian Line link to Birth chart

 

 

Note that Mars is debilitated in Cancer (also in Navamsa) and

aspects the Moon, which is in the 5th house. Saturn also aspects

Mars and the Moon. These indications seem to tie in with the

contributions of Bhaskarbhai/ Parafullabhai. Although Venus and

Jupiter also aspect the Moon, some link is evident albeit on the

basis of a very low number of observations.

 

, "Prafulla Gang"

<jyotish > wrote:

>

> Dear Soumit ji,

>

> In my observation of palmistry - this line does not indicate

> misfortune. It is more around the application of heart / head.

>

> Astrologically speaking, there must be some factors for such

financial

> debacle in the chart. Generally speaking - dhan yoga must be read

with

> the dhan sustaining and damaging factors.

>

> regards / Prafulla

>

> regards / Prafulla

>

> , Soumit Guha <java_sgt@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar/Maniv,

> > I am sharing a chart of a native with a Simian Line.

> > Native has an ample amount of both head and heart but has been

> unfortunate the last 7 yrs.

> > He has incurred Rs 1cr of debt on a failed business, and fled the

> loan sharks in India and come to the US illegally.

> > He is currently managing 2 fastfood places and works like a dog

> 12-14 hrs a day 7 days a week, to pay off his creditors and support

> family in India whom he has not seen since 1999.

> >

> > For your research purposes the details are

> > Oct 2, 1962

> > 00:02 am, Bombay, India

> > soumit guha

> > java_sgt@

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ >

> >

> > Saturday, September 9, 2006 9:48:21 AM

> > Re: Simian Line link to Birth chart

> >

> > Dear mr.Maniv,

> >

> > Simian life denotes either the person does not have head line or

> > either no heart line. This depends on the nearness of the lines

to

> > the bottom joints of the fingers,known as mounts.

> >

> > I do not think that anyone till date has linked Simian line to

astro-

> > chart. But if the person is heartless as seen by the Krura

grahas

> > aflicting the Lagna or 5th house and also Leo, and also

> > confirmed by Simian line being more near the Life line then we

can

> > conclude the Link. Same explanation for Simian Line (Head Line).

> > In this case factors relating to Mars,Aries, Mercury and Moon.

> >

> > The above are my personal views.

> > I will not be able to explain much on this as this needs

research.

> > first to find many natives with Simian lines in their hands, and

then

> > also match their charts with findings on palm.

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , "maniv1321"

<maniv1321@ ..>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > I have often read of palmists that can draw an accurate

kundali

> > simply

> > > by reading the palm.

> > >

> > > In this context, I was interested to learn about what

indications

> > in

> > > the birth cart can be linked to a simian line (joining of the

head

> > and

> > > heart line).

> > >

> > > Thank you,

> > >

> > > Maniv

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Respected Sir Guha

I am very much interestedin this case. But i am surprized that he is out of India ?

How it can be possible ? He is running the mahadasa of Lagna Lord which is exalted and retrogade in 4th house ! And you are saying he is out of the country.

Now i have a question for this person. You know his personally.

I feel that this person is very very non-aggressive.

Normally he will not look like a short tempered person but when his anger comes then he does not know the limit.

Please let me know these two things.

Best Wishes

Jagdish

 

Soumit Guha <java_sgt > wrote:

Dear Prafulla/Maniv,

The native does not have a dearth of wealth. He alway was a high roller and lived well in India.

Over here his living conditions are definetly poor, but all that is relative.He is the king of his realm with several to his becokning.

When I met him, I found him to be quite comfortable, all needs taken care off. He threw a fest and we partied.

I think those palnets in the 8th house in Rasi (debts) have to do with it. I guess you have to accept your lumps too, when you take big risks.

 

soumit guha

java_sgt

 

 

maniv1321 <maniv1321 (AT) (DOT) co.uk>

 

Saturday, September 9, 2006 3:34:46 PM

Re: Simian Line link to Birth chart

 

Note that Mars is debilitated in Cancer (also in Navamsa) and

aspects the Moon, which is in the 5th house. Saturn also aspects

Mars and the Moon. These indications seem to tie in with the

contributions of Bhaskarbhai/ Parafullabhai. Although Venus and

Jupiter also aspect the Moon, some link is evident albeit on the

basis of a very low number of observations.

 

, "Prafulla Gang"

<jyotish > wrote:

>

> Dear Soumit ji,

>

> In my observation of palmistry - this line does not indicate

> misfortune. It is more around the application of heart / head.

>

> Astrologically speaking, there must be some factors for such

financial

> debacle in the chart. Generally speaking - dhan yoga must be read

with

> the dhan sustaining and damaging factors.

>

> regards / Prafulla

>

> regards / Prafulla

>

> , Soumit Guha <java_sgt@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar/Maniv,

> > I am sharing a chart of a native with a Simian Line.

> > Native has an ample amount of both head and heart but has been

> unfortunate the last 7 yrs.

> > He has incurred Rs 1cr of debt on a failed business, and fled the

> loan sharks in India and come to the US illegally.

> > He is currently managing 2 fastfood places and works like a dog

> 12-14 hrs a day 7 days a week, to pay off his creditors and support

> family in India whom he has not seen since 1999.

> >

> > For your research purposes the details are

> > Oct 2, 1962

> > 00:02 am, Bombay, India

> > soumit guha

> > java_sgt@

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ >

> >

> > Saturday, September 9, 2006 9:48:21 AM

> > Re: Simian Line link to Birth chart

> >

> > Dear mr.Maniv,

> >

> > Simian life denotes either the person does not have head line or

> > either no heart line. This depends on the nearness of the lines

to

> > the bottom joints of the fingers,known as mounts.

> >

> > I do not think that anyone till date has linked Simian line to

astro-

> > chart. But if the person is heartless as seen by the Krura

grahas

> > aflicting the Lagna or 5th house and also Leo, and also

> > confirmed by Simian line being more near the Life line then we

can

> > conclude the Link. Same explanation for Simian Line (Head Line).

> > In this case factors relating to Mars,Aries, Mercury and Moon.

> >

> > The above are my personal views.

> > I will not be able to explain much on this as this needs

research.

> > first to find many natives with Simian lines in their hands, and

then

> > also match their charts with findings on palm.

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , "maniv1321"

<maniv1321@ ..>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > I have often read of palmists that can draw an accurate

kundali

> > simply

> > > by reading the palm.

> > >

> > > In this context, I was interested to learn about what

indications

> > in

> > > the birth cart can be linked to a simian line (joining of the

head

> > and

> > > heart line).

> > >

> > > Thank you,

> > >

> > > Maniv

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Sir Guha

Please confirm that this person must have earned very well from March 2004 till March 2005. Tensions and frustration must be there with very good income.

Best Wishes

Jagdish

 

Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest > wrote:

Respected Sir Guha

 

I am very much interestedin this case. But i am surprized that he is out of India ?

 

How it can be possible ? He is running the mahadasa of Lagna Lord which is exalted and retrogade in 4th house ! And you are saying he is out of the country.

 

Now i have a question for this person. You know his personally.

 

I feel that this person is very very non-aggressive.

 

Normally he will not look like a short tempered person but when his anger comes then he does not know the limit.

 

Please let me know these two things.

 

Best Wishes

 

Jagdish

 

 

Soumit Guha <java_sgt > wrote:

Dear Prafulla/Maniv,

The native does not have a dearth of wealth. He alway was a high roller and lived well in India.

Over here his living conditions are definetly poor, but all that is relative.He is the king of his realm with several to his becokning.

When I met him, I found him to be quite comfortable, all needs taken care off. He threw a fest and we partied.

I think those palnets in the 8th house in Rasi (debts) have to do with it. I guess you have to accept your lumps too, when you take big risks.

 

soumit guha

java_sgt

 

 

maniv1321 <maniv1321 (AT) (DOT) co.uk>

 

Saturday, September 9, 2006 3:34:46 PM

Re: Simian Line link to Birth chart

 

Note that Mars is debilitated in Cancer (also in Navamsa) and

aspects the Moon, which is in the 5th house. Saturn also aspects

Mars and the Moon. These indications seem to tie in with the

contributions of Bhaskarbhai/ Parafullabhai. Although Venus and

Jupiter also aspect the Moon, some link is evident albeit on the

basis of a very low number of observations.

 

, "Prafulla Gang"

<jyotish > wrote:

>

> Dear Soumit ji,

>

> In my observation of palmistry - this line does not indicate

> misfortune. It is more around the application of heart / head.

>

> Astrologically speaking, there must be some factors for such

financial

> debacle in the chart. Generally speaking - dhan yoga must be read

with

> the dhan sustaining and damaging factors.

>

> regards / Prafulla

>

> regards / Prafulla

>

> , Soumit Guha <java_sgt@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar/Maniv,

> > I am sharing a chart of a native with a Simian Line.

> > Native has an ample amount of both head and heart but has been

> unfortunate the last 7 yrs.

> > He has incurred Rs 1cr of debt on a failed business, and fled the

> loan sharks in India and come to the US illegally.

> > He is currently managing 2 fastfood places and works like a dog

> 12-14 hrs a day 7 days a week, to pay off his creditors and support

> family in India whom he has not seen since 1999.

> >

> > For your research purposes the details are

> > Oct 2, 1962

> > 00:02 am, Bombay, India

> > soumit guha

> > java_sgt@

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ >

> >

> > Saturday, September 9, 2006 9:48:21 AM

> > Re: Simian Line link to Birth chart

> >

> > Dear mr.Maniv,

> >

> > Simian life denotes either the person does not have head line or

> > either no heart line. This depends on the nearness of the lines

to

> > the bottom joints of the fingers,known as mounts.

> >

> > I do not think that anyone till date has linked Simian line to

astro-

> > chart. But if the person is heartless as seen by the Krura

grahas

> > aflicting the Lagna or 5th house and also Leo, and also

> > confirmed by Simian line being more near the Life line then we

can

> > conclude the Link. Same explanation for Simian Line (Head Line).

> > In this case factors relating to Mars,Aries, Mercury and Moon.

> >

> > The above are my personal views.

> > I will not be able to explain much on this as this needs

research.

> > first to find many natives with Simian lines in their hands, and

then

> > also match their charts with findings on palm.

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , "maniv1321"

<maniv1321@ ..>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > I have often read of palmists that can draw an accurate

kundali

> > simply

> > > by reading the palm.

> > >

> > > In this context, I was interested to learn about what

indications

> > in

> > > the birth cart can be linked to a simian line (joining of the

head

> > and

> > > heart line).

> > >

> > > Thank you,

> > >

> > > Maniv

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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soumit guha

java_sgt

 

 

 

 

Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest >

 

Saturday, September 9, 2006 7:14:31 PM

Re: Re: Simian Line link to Birth chart

 

Dear Sir Guha

 

Please confirm that this person must have earned very well from March 2004 till March 2005. Tensions and frustration must be there with very good income.

 

Best Wishes

 

Jagdish

 

Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest@ > wrote:

Respected Sir Guha

 

I am very much interestedin this case. But i am surprized that he is out of India ?

 

How it can be possible ? He is running the mahadasa of Lagna Lord which is exalted and retrogade in 4th house ! And you are saying he is out of the country.

 

Now i have a question for this person. You know his personally.

 

I feel that this person is very very non-aggressive.

 

Normally he will not look like a short tempered person but when his anger comes then he does not know the limit.

 

Please let me know these two things.

 

Best Wishes

 

Jagdish

 

Soumit Guha <java_sgt > wrote:

Dear Prafulla/Maniv,

The native does not have a dearth of wealth. He alway was a high roller and lived well in India.

Over here his living conditions are definetly poor, but all that is relative.He is the king of his realm with several to his becokning.

When I met him, I found him to be quite comfortable, all needs taken care off. He threw a fest and we partied.

I think those palnets in the 8th house in Rasi (debts) have to do with it. I guess you have to accept your lumps too, when you take big risks.

 

soumit guha

java_sgt

 

 

maniv1321 <maniv1321 (AT) (DOT) co.uk>

 

Saturday, September 9, 2006 3:34:46 PM

Re: Simian Line link to Birth chart

 

Note that Mars is debilitated in Cancer (also in Navamsa) and

aspects the Moon, which is in the 5th house. Saturn also aspects

Mars and the Moon. These indications seem to tie in with the

contributions of Bhaskarbhai/ Parafullabhai. Although Venus and

Jupiter also aspect the Moon, some link is evident albeit on the

basis of a very low number of observations.

 

, "Prafulla Gang"

<jyotish > wrote:

>

> Dear Soumit ji,

>

> In my observation of palmistry - this line does not indicate

> misfortune. It is more around the application of heart / head.

>

> Astrologically speaking, there must be some factors for such

financial

> debacle in the chart. Generally speaking - dhan yoga must be read

with

> the dhan sustaining and damaging factors.

>

> regards / Prafulla

>

> regards / Prafulla

>

> , Soumit Guha <java_sgt@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar/Maniv,

> > I am sharing a chart of a native with a Simian Line.

> > Native has an ample amount of both head and heart but has been

> unfortunate the last 7 yrs.

> > He has incurred Rs 1cr of debt on a failed business, and fled the

> loan sharks in India and come to the US illegally.

> > He is currently managing 2 fastfood places and works like a dog

> 12-14 hrs a day 7 days a week, to pay off his creditors and support

> family in India whom he has not seen since 1999.

> >

> > For your research purposes the details are

> > Oct 2, 1962

> > 00:02 am, Bombay, India

> > soumit guha

> > java_sgt@

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ >

> >

> > Saturday, September 9, 2006 9:48:21 AM

> > Re: Simian Line link to Birth chart

> >

> > Dear mr.Maniv,

> >

> > Simian life denotes either the person does not have head line or

> > either no heart line. This depends on the nearness of the lines

to

> > the bottom joints of the fingers,known as mounts.

> >

> > I do not think that anyone till date has linked Simian line to

astro-

> > chart. But if the person is heartless as seen by the Krura

grahas

> > aflicting the Lagna or 5th house and also Leo, and also

> > confirmed by Simian line being more near the Life line then we

can

> > conclude the Link. Same explanation for Simian Line (Head Line).

> > In this case factors relating to Mars,Aries, Mercury and Moon.

> >

> > The above are my personal views.

> > I will not be able to explain much on this as this needs

research.

> > first to find many natives with Simian lines in their hands, and

then

> > also match their charts with findings on palm.

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , "maniv1321"

<maniv1321@ ..>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > I have often read of palmists that can draw an accurate

kundali

> > simply

> > > by reading the palm.

> > >

> > > In this context, I was interested to learn about what

indications

> > in

> > > the birth cart can be linked to a simian line (joining of the

head

> > and

> > > heart line).

> > >

> > > Thank you,

> > >

> > > Maniv

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Jagdish,

Yes, you join a list of astrologers who too are puzzled with this case.

They say he would fare far better in India. There might be some bandhana yoga maybe short term exile stuff.

But this guy is filmi and considers his reputation to be tarnished by his debts and his flee. So he does not want to go back to India and would rather see his family come here an be with him.

Rest what you say is true.

soumit guha

jawva_sgt

 

 

 

 

Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest >

 

Saturday, September 9, 2006 7:06:45 PM

Re: Re: Simian Line link to Birth chart

 

Respected Sir Guha

 

I am very much interestedin this case. But i am surprized that he is out of India ?

 

How it can be possible ? He is running the mahadasa of Lagna Lord which is exalted and retrogade in 4th house ! And you are saying he is out of the country.

 

Now i have a question for this person. You know his personally.

 

I feel that this person is very very non-aggressive.

 

Normally he will not look like a short tempered person but when his anger comes then he does not know the limit.

 

Please let me know these two things.

 

Best Wishes

 

Jagdish

 

 

Soumit Guha <java_sgt > wrote:

Dear Prafulla/Maniv,

The native does not have a dearth of wealth. He alway was a high roller and lived well in India.

Over here his living conditions are definetly poor, but all that is relative.He is the king of his realm with several to his becokning.

When I met him, I found him to be quite comfortable, all needs taken care off. He threw a fest and we partied.

I think those palnets in the 8th house in Rasi (debts) have to do with it. I guess you have to accept your lumps too, when you take big risks.

 

soumit guha

java_sgt

 

 

maniv1321 <maniv1321 (AT) (DOT) co.uk>

 

Saturday, September 9, 2006 3:34:46 PM

Re: Simian Line link to Birth chart

 

Note that Mars is debilitated in Cancer (also in Navamsa) and

aspects the Moon, which is in the 5th house. Saturn also aspects

Mars and the Moon. These indications seem to tie in with the

contributions of Bhaskarbhai/ Parafullabhai. Although Venus and

Jupiter also aspect the Moon, some link is evident albeit on the

basis of a very low number of observations.

 

, "Prafulla Gang"

<jyotish > wrote:

>

> Dear Soumit ji,

>

> In my observation of palmistry - this line does not indicate

> misfortune. It is more around the application of heart / head.

>

> Astrologically speaking, there must be some factors for such

financial

> debacle in the chart. Generally speaking - dhan yoga must be read

with

> the dhan sustaining and damaging factors.

>

> regards / Prafulla

>

> regards / Prafulla

>

> , Soumit Guha <java_sgt@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar/Maniv,

> > I am sharing a chart of a native with a Simian Line.

> > Native has an ample amount of both head and heart but has been

> unfortunate the last 7 yrs.

> > He has incurred Rs 1cr of debt on a failed business, and fled the

> loan sharks in India and come to the US illegally.

> > He is currently managing 2 fastfood places and works like a dog

> 12-14 hrs a day 7 days a week, to pay off his creditors and support

> family in India whom he has not seen since 1999.

> >

> > For your research purposes the details are

> > Oct 2, 1962

> > 00:02 am, Bombay, India

> > soumit guha

> > java_sgt@

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ >

> >

> > Saturday, September 9, 2006 9:48:21 AM

> > Re: Simian Line link to Birth chart

> >

> > Dear mr.Maniv,

> >

> > Simian life denotes either the person does not have head line or

> > either no heart line. This depends on the nearness of the lines

to

> > the bottom joints of the fingers,known as mounts.

> >

> > I do not think that anyone till date has linked Simian line to

astro-

> > chart. But if the person is heartless as seen by the Krura

grahas

> > aflicting the Lagna or 5th house and also Leo, and also

> > confirmed by Simian line being more near the Life line then we

can

> > conclude the Link. Same explanation for Simian Line (Head Line).

> > In this case factors relating to Mars,Aries, Mercury and Moon.

> >

> > The above are my personal views.

> > I will not be able to explain much on this as this needs

research.

> > first to find many natives with Simian lines in their hands, and

then

> > also match their charts with findings on palm.

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , "maniv1321"

<maniv1321@ ..>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > I have often read of palmists that can draw an accurate

kundali

> > simply

> > > by reading the palm.

> > >

> > > In this context, I was interested to learn about what

indications

> > in

> > > the birth cart can be linked to a simian line (joining of the

head

> > and

> > > heart line).

> > >

> > > Thank you,

> > >

> > > Maniv

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Sir,

 

Theres no question of being better of at India or at any one place.

His Lagna being airy, he is anyway supposed to keep moving for his

own good, he is not supposed to sit at one place and continue

working there. Change ,flexibility,adaptability,Dual persona, has to

be there in any case cause of Gemini Lagna and Mercury lagna Lord.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

+, Soumit Guha <java_sgt

wrote:

>

> Dear Jagdish,

> Yes, you join a list of astrologers who too are

puzzled with this case.

> They say he would fare far better in India. There might be some

bandhana yoga maybe short term exile stuff.

> But this guy is filmi and considers his reputation to be tarnished

by his debts and his flee. So he does not want to go back to India

and would rather see his family come here an be with him.

> Rest what you say is true.

> soumit guha

> jawva_sgt

>

>

>

>

> Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest

>

> Saturday, September 9, 2006 7:06:45 PM

> Re: Re: Simian Line link to Birth chart

>

> Respected Sir Guha

>

> I am very much interestedin this case. But i am surprized that he

is out of India ?

>

> How it can be possible ? He is running the mahadasa of Lagna Lord

which is exalted and retrogade in 4th house ! And you are saying he

is out of the country.

>

> Now i have a question for this person. You know his personally.

>

> I feel that this person is very very non-aggressive.

>

> Normally he will not look like a short tempered person but when his

anger comes then he does not know the limit.

>

> Please let me know these two things.

>

> Best Wishes

>

> Jagdish

>

>

> Soumit Guha <java_sgt > wrote:

> Dear Prafulla/Maniv,

> The native does not have a dearth of wealth. He alway was a high

roller and lived well in India.

> Over here his living conditions are definetly poor, but all that is

relative.He is the king of his realm with several to his becokning.

> When I met him, I found him to be quite comfortable, all needs

taken care off. He threw a fest and we partied.

> I think those palnets in the 8th house in Rasi (debts) have to do

with it. I guess you have to accept your lumps too, when you take big

risks.

>

> soumit guha

> java_sgt

>

>

> maniv1321 <maniv1321 (AT) (DOT) co.uk>

>

> Saturday, September 9, 2006 3:34:46 PM

> Re: Simian Line link to Birth chart

>

> Note that Mars is debilitated in Cancer (also in Navamsa) and

> aspects the Moon, which is in the 5th house. Saturn also aspects

> Mars and the Moon. These indications seem to tie in with the

> contributions of Bhaskarbhai/ Parafullabhai. Although Venus and

> Jupiter also aspect the Moon, some link is evident albeit on the

> basis of a very low number of observations.

>

> , "Prafulla Gang"

> <jyotish@ > wrote:

> >

> > Dear Soumit ji,

> >

> > In my observation of palmistry - this line does not indicate

> > misfortune. It is more around the application of heart / head.

> >

> > Astrologically speaking, there must be some factors for such

> financial

> > debacle in the chart. Generally speaking - dhan yoga must be read

> with

> > the dhan sustaining and damaging factors.

> >

> > regards / Prafulla

> >

> > regards / Prafulla

> >

> > , Soumit Guha

<java_sgt@>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar/Maniv,

> > > I am sharing a chart of a native with a Simian Line.

> > > Native has an ample amount of both head and heart but has been

> > unfortunate the last 7 yrs.

> > > He has incurred Rs 1cr of debt on a failed business, and fled

the

> > loan sharks in India and come to the US illegally.

> > > He is currently managing 2 fastfood places and works like a dog

> > 12-14 hrs a day 7 days a week, to pay off his creditors and

support

> > family in India whom he has not seen since 1999.

> > >

> > > For your research purposes the details are

> > > Oct 2, 1962

> > > 00:02 am, Bombay, India

> > > soumit guha

> > > java_sgt@

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ >

> > >

> > > Saturday, September 9, 2006 9:48:21 AM

> > > Re: Simian Line link to Birth chart

> > >

> > > Dear mr.Maniv,

> > >

> > > Simian life denotes either the person does not have head line

or

> > > either no heart line. This depends on the nearness of the lines

> to

> > > the bottom joints of the fingers,known as mounts.

> > >

> > > I do not think that anyone till date has linked Simian line to

> astro-

> > > chart. But if the person is heartless as seen by the Krura

> grahas

> > > aflicting the Lagna or 5th house and also Leo, and also

> > > confirmed by Simian line being more near the Life line then we

> can

> > > conclude the Link. Same explanation for Simian Line (Head Line).

> > > In this case factors relating to Mars,Aries, Mercury and Moon.

> > >

> > > The above are my personal views.

> > > I will not be able to explain much on this as this needs

> research.

> > > first to find many natives with Simian lines in their hands,

and

> then

> > > also match their charts with findings on palm.

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > , "maniv1321"

> <maniv1321@ ..>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Members,

> > > >

> > > > I have often read of palmists that can draw an accurate

> kundali

> > > simply

> > > > by reading the palm.

> > > >

> > > > In this context, I was interested to learn about what

> indications

> > > in

> > > > the birth cart can be linked to a simian line (joining of the

> head

> > > and

> > > > heart line).

> > > >

> > > > Thank you,

> > > >

> > > > Maniv

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Dear Soumit ji,

 

When you wrote, :This guy is filmi..." did you mean he is associated

with the movie/entertainment/showbusiness industry or that he just

loves to do "drama!"

 

In the latter case, caution wonders: All you are saying about him,

and that is being taken so seriously by members here -- is it all

true as observed and personally known to you -- or hearsay?

 

This is important because histrionic (sp?) personalities often are

able to project the reality as they see it and not as it is. And,

sometimes they are not lying or putting on an act. They may be living

it, as many a psychologists and police detectives may have

experienced in their encounters!

 

Not saying that that is the case in this instance, but perhaps just

being cautious here!

 

Best regards,

 

RR

 

, Soumit Guha <java_sgt

wrote:

>

> Dear Jagdish,

> Yes, you join a list of astrologers who too are

puzzled with this case.

> They say he would fare far better in India. There might be some

bandhana yoga maybe short term exile stuff.

> But this guy is filmi and considers his reputation to be tarnished

by his debts and his flee. So he does not want to go back to India

and would rather see his family come here an be with him.

> Rest what you say is true.

> soumit guha

> jawva_sgt

>

>

>

>

> Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest

>

> Saturday, September 9, 2006 7:06:45 PM

> Re: Re: Simian Line link to Birth chart

>

> Respected Sir Guha

>

> I am very much interestedin this case. But i am surprized that he

is out of India ?

>

> How it can be possible ? He is running the mahadasa of Lagna Lord

which is exalted and retrogade in 4th house ! And you are saying he

is out of the country.

>

> Now i have a question for this person. You know his personally.

>

> I feel that this person is very very non-aggressive.

>

> Normally he will not look like a short tempered person but when his

anger comes then he does not know the limit.

>

> Please let me know these two things.

>

> Best Wishes

>

> Jagdish

>

>

> Soumit Guha <java_sgt > wrote:

> Dear Prafulla/Maniv,

> The native does not have a dearth of wealth. He alway was a high

roller and lived well in India.

> Over here his living conditions are definetly poor, but all that is

relative.He is the king of his realm with several to his becokning.

> When I met him, I found him to be quite comfortable, all needs

taken care off. He threw a fest and we partied.

> I think those palnets in the 8th house in Rasi (debts) have to do

with it. I guess you have to accept your lumps too, when you take big

risks.

>

> soumit guha

> java_sgt

>

>

> maniv1321 <maniv1321 (AT) (DOT) co.uk>

>

> Saturday, September 9, 2006 3:34:46 PM

> Re: Simian Line link to Birth chart

>

> Note that Mars is debilitated in Cancer (also in Navamsa) and

> aspects the Moon, which is in the 5th house. Saturn also aspects

> Mars and the Moon. These indications seem to tie in with the

> contributions of Bhaskarbhai/ Parafullabhai. Although Venus and

> Jupiter also aspect the Moon, some link is evident albeit on the

> basis of a very low number of observations.

>

> , "Prafulla Gang"

> <jyotish@ > wrote:

> >

> > Dear Soumit ji,

> >

> > In my observation of palmistry - this line does not indicate

> > misfortune. It is more around the application of heart / head.

> >

> > Astrologically speaking, there must be some factors for such

> financial

> > debacle in the chart. Generally speaking - dhan yoga must be read

> with

> > the dhan sustaining and damaging factors.

> >

> > regards / Prafulla

> >

> > regards / Prafulla

> >

> > , Soumit Guha

<java_sgt@>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar/Maniv,

> > > I am sharing a chart of a native with a Simian Line.

> > > Native has an ample amount of both head and heart but has been

> > unfortunate the last 7 yrs.

> > > He has incurred Rs 1cr of debt on a failed business, and fled

the

> > loan sharks in India and come to the US illegally.

> > > He is currently managing 2 fastfood places and works like a dog

> > 12-14 hrs a day 7 days a week, to pay off his creditors and

support

> > family in India whom he has not seen since 1999.

> > >

> > > For your research purposes the details are

> > > Oct 2, 1962

> > > 00:02 am, Bombay, India

> > > soumit guha

> > > java_sgt@

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ >

> > >

> > > Saturday, September 9, 2006 9:48:21 AM

> > > Re: Simian Line link to Birth chart

> > >

> > > Dear mr.Maniv,

> > >

> > > Simian life denotes either the person does not have head line

or

> > > either no heart line. This depends on the nearness of the lines

> to

> > > the bottom joints of the fingers,known as mounts.

> > >

> > > I do not think that anyone till date has linked Simian line to

> astro-

> > > chart. But if the person is heartless as seen by the Krura

> grahas

> > > aflicting the Lagna or 5th house and also Leo, and also

> > > confirmed by Simian line being more near the Life line then we

> can

> > > conclude the Link. Same explanation for Simian Line (Head Line).

> > > In this case factors relating to Mars,Aries, Mercury and Moon.

> > >

> > > The above are my personal views.

> > > I will not be able to explain much on this as this needs

> research.

> > > first to find many natives with Simian lines in their hands,

and

> then

> > > also match their charts with findings on palm.

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > , "maniv1321"

> <maniv1321@ ..>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Members,

> > > >

> > > > I have often read of palmists that can draw an accurate

> kundali

> > > simply

> > > > by reading the palm.

> > > >

> > > > In this context, I was interested to learn about what

> indications

> > > in

> > > > the birth cart can be linked to a simian line (joining of the

> head

> > > and

> > > > heart line).

> > > >

> > > > Thank you,

> > > >

> > > > Maniv

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Dear Maniv

 

I observed these, in my early days of vedic astrology (where as I

started studying palmistry much earlier). Yes, recalling few charts -

Mars / moon were more into 4/7/10 aspect (in few cases moon was not

aspecting mars), or mars being in cancer as well. I am sure, there

must be other influences as well (like mercury / jupiter etc) on

either of the planets; but mars aspect upon moon was prominent.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

, "maniv1321" <maniv1321

wrote:

>

>

> Prafullabhai

>

> The simian line certainly indicates an extreme personality - the

> word that springs to mind is intensity. Either the thinking process

> is dominated by emotions or the emotions are dominated by the

> rational faculty of the mind.

>

> It interesting that you attribute the planetary influences to

> Moon/Mars. Moon definitely represents emotions and their source (4th

> house/heart) but also the mind. So in a sense an affliction to the

> Moon, as you mention, should be present. Mars would represent

> logic/coldness and its debilitation in the emotional sign

> representing the heart (Cancer) further adds weight to it being the

> anti-thesis of the issues of the heart.

>

> In your observations has Mars been close to the 4th house/Cancer?

>

> Regards,

>

> Maniv

>

>

>

> , "Prafulla Gang"

> <jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear maniv,

> >

> > It makes a native using either heart or head (on extreme extent)

> for

> > his matters. So many a times - people may find him very

> > materialistic / ruthless / cold or highly emotional person.

> >

> > While studying palmistry long back, I observed this behaviour in

> lot

> > many people. You may also observe interesting trend for such

> natives.

> > If you see their parents / grand parents' chart - then you will

> also

> > observe the similar line (heart line dropping into head line, while

> > head line being straight across the palm).

> >

> > In my view / observation - mutual relation of mars / moon is

> indicated

> > in such natives.

> >

> > regards / Prafulla Gang

> >

> > , "maniv1321" <maniv1321@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > I have often read of palmists that can draw an accurate kundali

> simply

> > > by reading the palm.

> > >

> > > In this context, I was interested to learn about what

> indications in

> > > the birth cart can be linked to a simian line (joining of the

> head and

> > > heart line).

> > >

> > > Thank you,

> > >

> > > Maniv

> > >

> >

>

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I just skipped to add: Moon or mars need not be afflicting each other.

Both may be functional benefic and then, such extremes might be

working for positive / gainful events.

 

, "Prafulla Gang" <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Maniv

>

> I observed these, in my early days of vedic astrology (where as I

> started studying palmistry much earlier). Yes, recalling few charts -

> Mars / moon were more into 4/7/10 aspect (in few cases moon was not

> aspecting mars), or mars being in cancer as well. I am sure, there

> must be other influences as well (like mercury / jupiter etc) on

> either of the planets; but mars aspect upon moon was prominent.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> , "maniv1321" <maniv1321@>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Prafullabhai

> >

> > The simian line certainly indicates an extreme personality - the

> > word that springs to mind is intensity. Either the thinking process

> > is dominated by emotions or the emotions are dominated by the

> > rational faculty of the mind.

> >

> > It interesting that you attribute the planetary influences to

> > Moon/Mars. Moon definitely represents emotions and their source (4th

> > house/heart) but also the mind. So in a sense an affliction to the

> > Moon, as you mention, should be present. Mars would represent

> > logic/coldness and its debilitation in the emotional sign

> > representing the heart (Cancer) further adds weight to it being the

> > anti-thesis of the issues of the heart.

> >

> > In your observations has Mars been close to the 4th house/Cancer?

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Maniv

> >

> >

> >

> > , "Prafulla Gang"

> > <jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear maniv,

> > >

> > > It makes a native using either heart or head (on extreme extent)

> > for

> > > his matters. So many a times - people may find him very

> > > materialistic / ruthless / cold or highly emotional person.

> > >

> > > While studying palmistry long back, I observed this behaviour in

> > lot

> > > many people. You may also observe interesting trend for such

> > natives.

> > > If you see their parents / grand parents' chart - then you will

> > also

> > > observe the similar line (heart line dropping into head line, while

> > > head line being straight across the palm).

> > >

> > > In my view / observation - mutual relation of mars / moon is

> > indicated

> > > in such natives.

> > >

> > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >

> > > , "maniv1321" <maniv1321@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Members,

> > > >

> > > > I have often read of palmists that can draw an accurate kundali

> > simply

> > > > by reading the palm.

> > > >

> > > > In this context, I was interested to learn about what

> > indications in

> > > > the birth cart can be linked to a simian line (joining of the

> > head and

> > > > heart line).

> > > >

> > > > Thank you,

> > > >

> > > > Maniv

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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