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, "NMadasamy" <nmadasamy

wrote:

>

> mahahradanatha wrote: Now is or was this lack of teachers

> > > true or is it only lack of faith and endurance of effort? I

> could clear this doubt,being located in Germany myself i know what

> is possible here and what is not, but i don´t feel like it,

> everybody can guess.Bhakti and faith is important, Guru is also

> important. Without the one nobody get the other, one is the method

> second the result.

> > >

> > >

> THE SELF says : BUT you see Mahahradanantha. You've already found

> your Guru, so its easy for you to say. Bhakti and faith is taking

> too long. Ive prayed to DEVI for more than 3 yrs. To me its long

> enough. Why have she not respond. Dont tell me I do not have

> Bhaktior Faith. I have enough Faith in her. How much more time do I

> need to prove to HER that I am very serious about HER. Yeah! recite

> the Khadgamala or the Lalitha Sahasranama you all say, they are very

> time consuming. I have to go to work, I have other obligations. I

> do not have that much time to spend reciting all these? Why cant SHE

> come to me as soon as possible. If SHE is the Divine Mother, why

> aint she responding to the cries of HER child. Why SHE respond to

> others and not to me? Where are HER promises?

> > >

> >

> znanna93 wrote: Namaste,

> >

> > SHE is everywhere! She is here there and everywhere; sometimes U

> > just need to be quiet enough to hear Her speak to U.

>

>

>

> THE SELF asks : That is what I did. I am quiet and I am listening

to

> HER. I hear HER saying : come to me. Follow my path. But now I am

in

> pain. I feel hurt, why aint SHE there for me? I look for HER

> everywhere, hoping for a sign but there is none. Why did SHE

> abandoned me? Now they are telling me : its not the voice of DEVI

> i'm hearing. Whose voice then if its not DEVI? How does DEVI sounds

> like?

>

 

Dear Self,

Desires change, There will be always sometimes pleasure and sometimes

sorrow , the time you have been a baby you experienced the sorrow of

hunger and loneliness, and then the pleasure of sustenance food and

warmth, with the hunger again sorrow arises which was satisfied by

the care of your mother.

These simple desires will forever stay with you and must be satisfied

or else you die, but others are added. Some are legitimate and can be

satisfied some not.

But some desires enter into adult life that cannot ever be satisfied

because they are not based on really existing things they are

sometimes based only on illusions, thought constructs,hearsay

wishful thinking.

It is the sometimes the very nature of some desires that they can

never be satisfied.

The universe consist of the devourer the food and the process of

eating that is what Guru Gorakhnath said.

Maybe it is good sometimes to abondon complicated desires revert to

the simple live of a child be satisfied with daily sustenance and

praise Annapurna.

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Hi Nora,

 

Just wondering where you expect her to come from, and how you expect her to reveal herself to you in order for you to be fully convinced that she has indeed "come" to you.

 

What is Bhakti ? Just giving ...... She is already there with You, I know it 100 percent. Just talk with here and send your Love to her, and I promise you in Her name, you will feel Her love and hear Her words coming to you..

 

It is so simple really it is.

 

All my love,

 

Vir

 

NMadasamy <nmadasamy (AT) nmadasamy (DOT) com> wrote: , "mahahradanatha"

<mahahradanatha wrote: Now is or was this lack of teachers

true

or is it only lack of faith and endurance of effort? I could clear

this doubt,being located in Germany myself i know what is possible

here and what is not, but i don´t feel like it, everybody can guess.

Bhakti and faith is important, Guru is also important. Without the

one

nobody get the other, one is the method second the result.

 

THE SELF says : BUT you see Mahahradanantha. You've already found

your Guru, so its easy for you to say. Bhakti and faith is taking

too long. Ive prayed to DEVI for more than 3 yrs. To me its long

enough. Why have she not respond. Dont tell me I do not have Bhakti

or Faith. I have enough Faith in her. How much more time do I need

to prove to HER that I am very serious about HER. Yeah! recite the

Khadgamala or the Lalitha Sahasranama you all say, they are very

time consuming. I have to go to work, I have other obligations. I do

not have that much time to spend reciting all these? Why cant SHE

come to me as soon as possible. If SHE is the Divine Mother, why

aint she responding to the cries of HER child. Why SHE respond to

others and not to me? Where are HER promises?

 

 

 

 

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It's amazing, so much gyan and so little understanding ......

 

"As above so below"

 

What do we expect, trumpets sounding, bugles blowing, choires of angels singing, with Devi gliding down a golden staircase and lifting us triumphantly on high !

 

The cleansing process is harsh but it is in Love. Hang-on, you will hear the trumpets soon !

 

NMadasamy <nmadasamy (AT) nmadasamy (DOT) com> wrote: mahahradanatha wrote: Now is or was this lack of teachers

> > true or is it only lack of faith and endurance of effort? I

could clear this doubt,being located in Germany myself i know what

is possible here and what is not, but i don´t feel like it,

everybody can guess.Bhakti and faith is important, Guru is also

important. Without the one nobody get the other, one is the method

second the result.

> >

> >

THE SELF says : BUT you see Mahahradanantha. You've already found

your Guru, so its easy for you to say. Bhakti and faith is taking

too long. Ive prayed to DEVI for more than 3 yrs. To me its long

enough. Why have she not respond. Dont tell me I do not have

Bhaktior Faith. I have enough Faith in her. How much more time do I

need to prove to HER that I am very serious about HER. Yeah! recite

the Khadgamala or the Lalitha Sahasranama you all say, they are very

time consuming. I have to go to work, I have other obligations. I

do not have that much time to spend reciting all these? Why cant SHE

come to me as soon as possible. If SHE is the Divine Mother, why

aint she responding to the cries of HER child. Why SHE respond to

others and not to me? Where are HER promises?

> >

>

znanna93 wrote: Namaste,

>

> SHE is everywhere! She is here there and everywhere; sometimes U

> just need to be quiet enough to hear Her speak to U.

 

THE SELF asks : That is what I did. I am quiet and I am listening to

HER. I hear HER saying : come to me. Follow my path. But now I am in

pain. I feel hurt, why aint SHE there for me? I look for HER

everywhere, hoping for a sign but there is none. Why did SHE

abandoned me? Now they are telling me : its not the voice of DEVI

i'm hearing. Whose voice then if its not DEVI? How does DEVI sounds

like?

 

 

 

 

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Let go my Friend, let go ...........

 

mahahradanatha <mahahradanatha > wrote: , "znanna93" <ninahill

wrote:

> Namaste,

>

> SHE is everywhere! She is here there and everywhere; sometimes U

> just need to be quiet enough to hear Her speak to U.

>

>

> ZN

>

 

I guess i must still improve my english, i did not mean to comment on

whether people should hear devi voices or not.

 

I commented on the many incidents where people think they can

decide what is the right path for someone else.

 

Some examples:

 

"The only Guru you will ever need is Your Self."

 

Now how does he know that? Maybe the poster will find a Guru, maybe

not, it is devi that will decide if he needs a Guru not we.

 

Why discourage belief in the Guru Principle (in a hindu shakta list)

and instead recommend "the self"?

 

There are several postings like this from vir.

That makes me think he is of the opinion that having a Guru is

something that should be generally avoided by every sadhaka.

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On 9/15/06, mahahradanatha <mahahradanatha > wrote:

>

> , Vir Rawlley <redderred

> wrote:

> >

>

> It should be obvious that Nora assumend only symbolically the role

> of "the self" coming to us and whining on the list, and that she is

> not talking about her own feelings.

 

 

Thanks for pointing it out Mahahradanatha.

 

Even I was confused in the beginin, but though so later.

 

I hope I didnt wrote anything that would have offended Nora. In case I did,

I apologise Devi.

 

Reagrds

Dp

 

 

 

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Thanks

Dp

[The force is feminine in nature]

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