to Haresh : Kal Sarpa Yoga- Astroresearch no 5

[Guest guest]

Om Sri gurave Namah!

Dear harish Jee,

Could you please share your knowledge with all of us, regarding the origin of : " KSY is an offence committed by ..................hence prayers are very very necessary".

I am looking for the following:

Either, some reference to a shastra, smriti, vedas, etc. in terms of chapter,

sloka no, or if it is a modern discovery, then its true discoverer.

Till now we do not have any direct reference only hype and speculation.

Because people who have this yoga should know the truth, like, its true

cause,symptoms, and ofcourse remedy and for the sake of research please substantiate each with some reference.

hope it is taken in its right spirit.:-)

Thanks!

Om Namah Shivai!

SPI

The chapter,

 

Sunil kuksal <s_kuksal (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Hi Haresh

Have already organised a pooja for that long back. I asked for the time period. And also forgiveness how long can one ask?

sunil

"Haresh (Harry) Nathani" <haresh1405 > wrote:

Dear Sunil

 

Pls understand the concept of KSD. KSY is due to an offence committed by the native in any of his/her past births by killing or harming a serpant or snake conciously or unconciously. We hv to ask for forgiveness from the Serpa Devta. Unless the prayers for forgiveness is not performed the native will continue to hv tough time. The benefic planets will not be able to deliver the good results in the faovourable period also. Hence prayers for forgiveness is very very necessary.

 

Harry

 

Sunil kuksal <s_kuksal (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Hi Hareshji

 

Is there any timeframe for KSY, means how long its effects remain?

regards

sunil

"Haresh (Harry) Nathani" <haresh1405 > wrote:

Dear Gautam

 

I saw ur mail today hence delay in reply. I hv casted ur chart & I also agree that u hv KSD. Ur lagna is within the axis of rahu as rahu is at higher degree than lagna in karka rashi. Now solution to ur problem, u hv to believe in the below solution as even my wife has KSD and it has worked for her I hv experienced the change in my life.

 

U will hv to visit Kaala Hasti temple near Tirupathi & pray over their for forgiveness. This will help condoning & solving the problems effectively. U should follow the instructions very very carefully. Ur Rahu is in enemies house & in order to appease rahu u should very fire gournnet stone in silver ring atleast 3 ckts in wt. in the index fingure in ur right hand on any wed or sat after getting the prayers done.

 

At present u are under Shukra/rahu dasa a terrible time for u but u have shukra in swagarh, u r loosing ur golden yrs. By getting ur prayers done u will be able to overcome all ur material problems.

 

Harry

 

Gautam Doshi <gautam_777 > wrote:

Dear All,

 

You guys are having a very interesting discussion. I have a kaal Sarpa Yoga in my horoscope and I can assure you that I have experienced the delays, obstacles, painful hard work not resulting in fruit etc. all supposed to be a highlight of this Yoga. It promises spiritual benefits at the expense of the material, leading one to ponder on the meaningfullness or meaninglessness of life in general. I always am seeking peace and am unable to find it, could be for whatever reasons...inspit of my Asc lying outside the Rahu - Ketu axis and all the planets hemmed into the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th Houses counting from Rahu ( I think)...

 

My name is Gautam Doshi, born on 07 December 1980 at 09:16 PM in Mumbai, India (19N06, 72E50).

 

Should one not check the Navamsa chart too, i.e. the placement of Rahu and Ketu in the Navamsa chart as compared to the Rashi chart to determine the friut from the foundation? The Rashi chart being the backbone can have a Kaal Sarpa yoga but if the Navamsa chart does not have it then the native does not have to suffer the Yoga, please correct me if I am wrong???

 

Could you please read my chart for Kaal Sarpa Yoga and its strength and suggest any valuable remedies?

 

Looking forward to receiving some help from you all.

 

Thank you,

 

Gautam Doshi.

 

Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology > wrote:

Namaskaar Sri Gaurav

 

Read my post again. You have misunderstood some sentences. Check it again

and see what I am saying.

 

For your reference, this is the passage (cut and paste from last post):

"In KS Yoga, whenever the person having this yoga goes after something

(other than Self-Knowledge), there are many obstacles to his/her path and to

the extent, the goal seems to move away."

 

Which essentially means that a person going towards Self-knowledge will not

have that obstacles, unless ofcourse there is attachment to organizations,

persons, or body of the Guru.

 

I hope you understand my sentence now.

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

 

On 8/17/06, wrote:

>

>

> ||Jai Ramakrishna||

>

> Dear Bharatji,

>

> Namaskar, thanq for your mail.....

>

> Its true that people should not get afraid for having KSY or anything

> like that in their natal horoscope.....rather they should be proud that

> they wll face a lot of hardships,which will help them to rise in their

> career.

>

> However, in certain aspects, i dont agree with u fully.U said that ppl

> having KSY go for other knowledge, than self-knowledge....but with my

> humble experience, i have seen ppl involved in spirituality &

> devotion(which is the root of self-knowledge)having KSY in their

> chart...for example, Shree Chaitanyadev having Rahu in 7th....but he was

> not after his wife....Even Ramanujacharya & Adi Shankaracharya are said

> to have Kal Sarpa Yoga....

>

> few days before i got a successful & ambitious person's chart having Kal

> Sarpa Yoga, is now staying in Singapore.....& is in a high designation

> of an MNC.....

>

> I get surprised when i see people outdoing all good combinations in a

> chart, for a person having KSY....& also cheating ppl for sake of

> performing various pujas for the sake of removal of problems due to

> KSY.....

>

> Astrology is like an x-ray report...it shows the problem....no one other

> than God can cure it..& his fees are not easy....like paying off any

> doctor....Astrology shows u the pit before u fall....it is a plackard

> saying,"Take Care before u fall"......Astrology cannot change anyone's

> destiny....If anyone takes the courage of changing his clients'

> destiny....then he is fooling people....

>

>

> Thanq

>

> With Humbleness,

>

> Wish u all success,

>

>

>

> http://gauravastro.150m.com

> vedic astrology ,

> "Bharat Hindu Astrology"

>

> wrote:

> >

> > Namaskaar All

> >

> > In April 2005, I had written the following as a reply to a query on

> the same

> > topic (it is pasted below in blue):

> >

> > I do not know of a single reference to Kaal Sarp dosha in our ancient

> texts

> > but I have found it working to full potential in life.

> >

> > Understand Kaal Sarp Yoga in this manner:

> > Rahu-Ketu are the "dwaarpals" of Maya Shakti. When they bind all the

> effects

> > of other grahas within them, they delay each and every want of the

> native.

> > All desired objects and beings seem to move away. That which isn't

> desired

> > comes easily to the native.

> >

> > Now, I also believe that Kaal Sarp Yoga is not a dosha. It is a

> spiritual

> > yoga. It tells us that running after fulfillment of desires is like

> trying

> > to drink water from a mirage. It will never satisfy you.

> >

> > Furthermore, Kaal Sarp Yoga also checks the activation of other evil

> doshas

> > in the chart.

> >

> > Now, I also urge all astrologers to check and verify from their

> clients the

> > following:

> > 1. In KS Yoga, whenever the person having this yoga goes after

> something

> > (other than Self-Knowledge), there are many obstacles to his/her path

> and to

> > the extent, the goal seems to move away. All other goals, objects and

> things

> > that they may not want, come to them easily (provided other yogas are

> > there). Moreover, check the house in which Rahu is placed. That house

> > significations will have a major say in that person's life. Remember,

> Rahu

> > involves - it is the maya-jaal! A person will keep on going round and

> round

> > without reaching satisfaction. With KSY, the native will be involved

> more

> > so. He may let other desires down and might think this house to be all

> > important.

> >

> > 2. I urge all astrologers not to give undue importance to a single

> yoga and

> > scare the hell out of the native.

> >

> > 3. What Sri Gaurav has proved is that "Kaal Sarp Yoga" is not

> necessarily a

> > dangerous thing. So he has proved that do not fear this Yoga. What he

> has

> > not proved is - that it is not applicable. He has only mitigated the

> wrong

> > meaning of it. This has been done beautifully before by Sri K. N. Rao

> too.

> >

> > 4. Statistics related to other yogas is also found in millions of

> horoscope.

> > Like Gajakesari Yoga, etc... However, they are applicable and used by

> all

> > astrologers. We should not reject a single yoga citing statistical

> reasons.

> > This is my view. Others can have their own.

> >

> > 5. Let me cite a nice example: There is a Miss India who has KS Yoga.

> She

> > became Miss India without any puja, etc. There is presence of other

> > excellent yogas in her chart. Now, whenever she went to find work -

> she will

> > either not get it (modelling, etc) OR will not be paid for it properly

> OR

> > will receive much delayed payment. I shall ask her permission to share

> her

> > data with the group. I had advised her to chant "Mahamritunjya Mantra

> for

> > specified number. She, her brother and her mother, did this japa on

> their

> > own. Two days after the Japa, she got a contract from a famous Swiss

> watch

> > company. The joy on her face was amazing to watch.

> >

> > Besides this, she was having major trouble finding the right guy for

> > marriage. Soon after the Japa, she found the right match and was

> married

> > into a very decent family. Now she is blessed with a son too. There

> was no

> > major dasha change in the 40 days of the Japa.

> >

> > 6. It is absolutely true, that some pundits are creating this Yoga in

> charts

> > just to scare the natives. In a chart of a family friend's daughter,

> who

> > wasn't gettting married, the pundit charged money for puja to mitigate

> KSY.

> > She has no KSY. Furthermore, there is no such thing as a partial KSY.

> > Atleast, I do not believe in it.

> >

> > In short, all I am saying is: Do not reject this yoga. Do not make

> > assumptions about its applicability or inapplicability. Understand

> more

> > about Rahu and Ketu. What are they? What do they do? What is their

> role in

> > nature? Unless one is clear about all of these, it is fruitless to

> comment

> > upon their Yoga.

> >

> > Researches like that of Sri Gaurav should continue but should be

> unassuming.

> >

> >

> > Hope my words are taken in the right spirit.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

> > Bharat

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On 8/11/06, Suri allam ianianala wrote:

> > >

> > > Om gurave Namah!

> > > Dear gaurav jee,

> > > kindly can you share with us what research you did and how you

> concluded

> > > that there is no such thing like Kal Sarpa Yoga.

> > > I am interested in your research approach and conclusion.

> > > Om Namah Shivai!

> > > SPI

> > >

> > > gg_0202 > wrote:

> > > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> > > Dear Anilji,

> > > There is no such thing like Kal Sarpa Yoga. I have done a research

> > > on this topic.U can download this from my website:-

> > > http://gauravastro.150m.com/articles.html

> > > I hope this helps,

> > > Thanq,

> > > With Humbleness,

> > > Wish u all success,

> > >

> > > http://gauravastro.150m.com

> > > http://gauravg.askagent.com

> > > ------------Send messages to the group, not to

> me--------------------

> > >

> > > vedic astrology

> ,

>

> > > "Anil Krishnan" thuttu@

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste all,

> > > >

> > > > I am very curious to Astrology.

> > > >

> > > > I like to know about Kala Sarpa Dosha. Someone told me that i have

> > > > kala sarpa dosha. I like to know if it is the reason my family

> > > life

> > > > is a total collapse.

> > > >

> > > > I also like to know if there is any affect on my life since Mars

> > > is

> > > > coming closer to Earth this month.

> > > >

> > > > My Name is Anil

> > > > Birthtime: 1-11-1972 4:55 AM

> > > > Birth Place: Quilon, Kerala

> > > >

> > > > My wife's name is Ranjini

> > > > Birthtime: 20-9-1980 10:24AM

> > > > Birthplace: Mavelikkara, Alleppey, Kerala

> > > >

> > > > My Son't name: Pranav

> > > > Birthtime: 14-9-2003 11:30 PM (Or closer to 12, i am not sure

> > > about

> > > > exact time)

> > > > Birthplace: Mavelikkara, Alleppey, Kerala.

> > > >

> > > > I appreciate any explanation of my family problems and if there is

> > > > any chance of happiness.

> > > >

> > > > Thank you all

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk

> email the

> > > boot with the All-new Mail

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Om Sri gurave Namah!

Dear harish Jee,

Could you please share your knowledge with all of us, regarding the origin of : " KSY is an offence committed by ..................hence prayers are very very necessary".

I am looking for the following:

Either, some reference to a shastra, smriti, vedas, etc. in terms of chapter,

sloka no, or if it is a modern discovery, then its true discoverer.

Till now we do not have any direct reference only hype and speculation.

Because people who have this yoga should know the truth, like, its true

cause,symptoms, and ofcourse remedy and for the sake of research please substantiate each with some reference.

hope it is taken in its right spirit.:-)

Thanks!

Om Namah Shivai!

SPI

 

 

"Haresh (Harry) Nathani" <haresh1405 > wrote: Dear Sunil

 

Pls understand the concept of KSD. KSY is due to an offence committed by the native in any of his/her past births by killing or harming a serpant or snake conciously or unconciously. We hv to ask for forgiveness from the Serpa Devta. Unless the prayers for forgiveness is not performed the native will continue to hv tough time. The benefic planets will not be able to deliver the good results in the faovourable period also. Hence prayers for forgiveness is very very necessary.

 

Harry

 

 

Sunil kuksal <s_kuksal (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Hi Hareshji

 

Is there any timeframe for KSY, means how long its effects remain?

regards

sunil

"Haresh (Harry) Nathani" <haresh1405 > wrote:

Dear Gautam

 

I saw ur mail today hence delay in reply. I hv casted ur chart & I also agree that u hv KSD. Ur lagna is within the axis of rahu as rahu is at higher degree than lagna in karka rashi. Now solution to ur problem, u hv to believe in the below solution as even my wife has KSD and it has worked for her I hv experienced the change in my life.

 

U will hv to visit Kaala Hasti temple near Tirupathi & pray over their for forgiveness. This will help condoning & solving the problems effectively. U should follow the instructions very very carefully. Ur Rahu is in enemies house & in order to appease rahu u should very fire gournnet stone in silver ring atleast 3 ckts in wt. in the index fingure in ur right hand on any wed or sat after getting the prayers done.

 

At present u are under Shukra/rahu dasa a terrible time for u but u have shukra in swagarh, u r loosing ur golden yrs. By getting ur prayers done u will be able to overcome all ur material problems.

 

Harry

 

Gautam Doshi <gautam_777 > wrote:

Dear All,

 

You guys are having a very interesting discussion. I have a kaal Sarpa Yoga in my horoscope and I can assure you that I have experienced the delays, obstacles, painful hard work not resulting in fruit etc. all supposed to be a highlight of this Yoga. It promises spiritual benefits at the expense of the material, leading one to ponder on the meaningfullness or meaninglessness of life in general. I always am seeking peace and am unable to find it, could be for whatever reasons...inspit of my Asc lying outside the Rahu - Ketu axis and all the planets hemmed into the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th Houses counting from Rahu ( I think)...

 

My name is Gautam Doshi, born on 07 December 1980 at 09:16 PM in Mumbai, India (19N06, 72E50).

 

Should one not check the Navamsa chart too, i.e. the placement of Rahu and Ketu in the Navamsa chart as compared to the Rashi chart to determine the friut from the foundation? The Rashi chart being the backbone can have a Kaal Sarpa yoga but if the Navamsa chart does not have it then the native does not have to suffer the Yoga, please correct me if I am wrong???

 

Could you please read my chart for Kaal Sarpa Yoga and its strength and suggest any valuable remedies?

 

Looking forward to receiving some help from you all.

 

Thank you,

 

Gautam Doshi.

 

Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology > wrote:

Namaskaar Sri Gaurav

 

Read my post again. You have misunderstood some sentences. Check it again

and see what I am saying.

 

For your reference, this is the passage (cut and paste from last post):

"In KS Yoga, whenever the person having this yoga goes after something

(other than Self-Knowledge), there are many obstacles to his/her path and to

the extent, the goal seems to move away."

 

Which essentially means that a person going towards Self-knowledge will not

have that obstacles, unless ofcourse there is attachment to organizations,

persons, or body of the Guru.

 

I hope you understand my sentence now.

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

 

On 8/17/06, wrote:

>

>

> ||Jai Ramakrishna||

>

> Dear Bharatji,

>

> Namaskar, thanq for your mail.....

>

> Its true that people should not get afraid for having KSY or anything

> like that in their natal horoscope.....rather they should be proud that

> they wll face a lot of hardships,which will help them to rise in their

> career.

>

> However, in certain aspects, i dont agree with u fully.U said that ppl

> having KSY go for other knowledge, than self-knowledge....but with my

> humble experience, i have seen ppl involved in spirituality &

> devotion(which is the root of self-knowledge)having KSY in their

> chart...for example, Shree Chaitanyadev having Rahu in 7th....but he was

> not after his wife....Even Ramanujacharya & Adi Shankaracharya are said

> to have Kal Sarpa Yoga....

>

> few days before i got a successful & ambitious person's chart having Kal

> Sarpa Yoga, is now staying in Singapore.....& is in a high designation

> of an MNC.....

>

> I get surprised when i see people outdoing all good combinations in a

> chart, for a person having KSY....& also cheating ppl for sake of

> performing various pujas for the sake of removal of problems due to

> KSY.....

>

> Astrology is like an x-ray report...it shows the problem....no one other

> than God can cure it..& his fees are not easy....like paying off any

> doctor....Astrology shows u the pit before u fall....it is a plackard

> saying,"Take Care before u fall"......Astrology cannot change anyone's

> destiny....If anyone takes the courage of changing his clients'

> destiny....then he is fooling people....

>

>

> Thanq

>

> With Humbleness,

>

> Wish u all success,

>

>

>

> http://gauravastro.150m.com

> vedic astrology ,

> "Bharat Hindu Astrology"

>

> wrote:

> >

> > Namaskaar All

> >

> > In April 2005, I had written the following as a reply to a query on

> the same

> > topic (it is pasted below in blue):

> >

> > I do not know of a single reference to Kaal Sarp dosha in our ancient

> texts

> > but I have found it working to full potential in life.

> >

> > Understand Kaal Sarp Yoga in this manner:

> > Rahu-Ketu are the "dwaarpals" of Maya Shakti. When they bind all the

> effects

> > of other grahas within them, they delay each and every want of the

> native.

> > All desired objects and beings seem to move away. That which isn't

> desired

> > comes easily to the native.

> >

> > Now, I also believe that Kaal Sarp Yoga is not a dosha. It is a

> spiritual

> > yoga. It tells us that running after fulfillment of desires is like

> trying

> > to drink water from a mirage. It will never satisfy you.

> >

> > Furthermore, Kaal Sarp Yoga also checks the activation of other evil

> doshas

> > in the chart.

> >

> > Now, I also urge all astrologers to check and verify from their

> clients the

> > following:

> > 1. In KS Yoga, whenever the person having this yoga goes after

> something

> > (other than Self-Knowledge), there are many obstacles to his/her path

> and to

> > the extent, the goal seems to move away. All other goals, objects and

> things

> > that they may not want, come to them easily (provided other yogas are

> > there). Moreover, check the house in which Rahu is placed. That house

> > significations will have a major say in that person's life. Remember,

> Rahu

> > involves - it is the maya-jaal! A person will keep on going round and

> round

> > without reaching satisfaction. With KSY, the native will be involved

> more

> > so. He may let other desires down and might think this house to be all

> > important.

> >

> > 2. I urge all astrologers not to give undue importance to a single

> yoga and

> > scare the hell out of the native.

> >

> > 3. What Sri Gaurav has proved is that "Kaal Sarp Yoga" is not

> necessarily a

> > dangerous thing. So he has proved that do not fear this Yoga. What he

> has

> > not proved is - that it is not applicable. He has only mitigated the

> wrong

> > meaning of it. This has been done beautifully before by Sri K. N. Rao

> too.

> >

> > 4. Statistics related to other yogas is also found in millions of

> horoscope.

> > Like Gajakesari Yoga, etc... However, they are applicable and used by

> all

> > astrologers. We should not reject a single yoga citing statistical

> reasons.

> > This is my view. Others can have their own.

> >

> > 5. Let me cite a nice example: There is a Miss India who has KS Yoga.

> She

> > became Miss India without any puja, etc. There is presence of other

> > excellent yogas in her chart. Now, whenever she went to find work -

> she will

> > either not get it (modelling, etc) OR will not be paid for it properly

> OR

> > will receive much delayed payment. I shall ask her permission to share

> her

> > data with the group. I had advised her to chant "Mahamritunjya Mantra

> for

> > specified number. She, her brother and her mother, did this japa on

> their

> > own. Two days after the Japa, she got a contract from a famous Swiss

> watch

> > company. The joy on her face was amazing to watch.

> >

> > Besides this, she was having major trouble finding the right guy for

> > marriage. Soon after the Japa, she found the right match and was

> married

> > into a very decent family. Now she is blessed with a son too. There

> was no

> > major dasha change in the 40 days of the Japa.

> >

> > 6. It is absolutely true, that some pundits are creating this Yoga in

> charts

> > just to scare the natives. In a chart of a family friend's daughter,

> who

> > wasn't gettting married, the pundit charged money for puja to mitigate

> KSY.

> > She has no KSY. Furthermore, there is no such thing as a partial KSY.

> > Atleast, I do not believe in it.

> >

> > In short, all I am saying is: Do not reject this yoga. Do not make

> > assumptions about its applicability or inapplicability. Understand

> more

> > about Rahu and Ketu. What are they? What do they do? What is their

> role in

> > nature? Unless one is clear about all of these, it is fruitless to

> comment

> > upon their Yoga.

> >

> > Researches like that of Sri Gaurav should continue but should be

> unassuming.

> >

> >

> > Hope my words are taken in the right spirit.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

> > Bharat

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On 8/11/06, Suri allam ianianala wrote:

> > >

> > > Om gurave Namah!

> > > Dear gaurav jee,

> > > kindly can you share with us what research you did and how you

> concluded

> > > that there is no such thing like Kal Sarpa Yoga.

> > > I am interested in your research approach and conclusion.

> > > Om Namah Shivai!

> > > SPI

> > >

> > > gg_0202 > wrote:

> > > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> > > Dear Anilji,

> > > There is no such thing like Kal Sarpa Yoga. I have done a research

> > > on this topic.U can download this from my website:-

> > > http://gauravastro.150m.com/articles.html

> > > I hope this helps,

> > > Thanq,

> > > With Humbleness,

> > > Wish u all success,

> > >

> > > http://gauravastro.150m.com

> > > http://gauravg.askagent.com

> > > ------------Send messages to the group, not to

> me--------------------

> > >

> > > vedic astrology

> ,

>

> > > "Anil Krishnan" thuttu@

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste all,

> > > >

> > > > I am very curious to Astrology.

> > > >

> > > > I like to know about Kala Sarpa Dosha. Someone told me that i have

> > > > kala sarpa dosha. I like to know if it is the reason my family

> > > life

> > > > is a total collapse.

> > > >

> > > > I also like to know if there is any affect on my life since Mars

> > > is

> > > > coming closer to Earth this month.

> > > >

> > > > My Name is Anil

> > > > Birthtime: 1-11-1972 4:55 AM

> > > > Birth Place: Quilon, Kerala

> > > >

> > > > My wife's name is Ranjini

> > > > Birthtime: 20-9-1980 10:24AM

> > > > Birthplace: Mavelikkara, Alleppey, Kerala

> > > >

> > > > My Son't name: Pranav

> > > > Birthtime: 14-9-2003 11:30 PM (Or closer to 12, i am not sure

> > > about

> > > > exact time)

> > > > Birthplace: Mavelikkara, Alleppey, Kerala.

> > > >

> > > > I appreciate any explanation of my family problems and if there is

> > > > any chance of happiness.

> > > >

> > > > Thank you all

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk

> email the

> > > boot with the All-new Mail

> > >

> > >