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Agreed Sir.

Fatalism is not the right word for Balarishta.

 

affectionately,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> {rafulla, Bhaskar

>

> Balarishta is not fatellism surely

> if it happens it is still Balarishta BUT not doing anything when

a child is declared having Balarishta when it is sick or injured

saying it is Balarishta is FATELISM, do ur part and allow nature to

do its own course be it balarishta or anyother-then it is not

fatelism but optism needed always in life.

>

> doing ur part is give the child due care, nurishment, hope, cheer

till the end, u may never knwo it can turn around if it has a bleak

chance to battle it out do ur part honesltly the moment u resing it

is fatelism.

>

>

>

> Prafulla Gang <jyotish

wrote: Great note.

I referred a very interesteing note by Dear Rishi on another thread,

around the remedial measures for 3/6/10/11. I am still pondering,

why Sage Parashar did not include them for his remedial

prescription.

>

> Whether we call it the need of modern yuga or our greater insight

into jyotish - but are our remedial patterns in line with sage

parashar (or say per jyotish objective). We all (including me) do

prescribe remedial measures (and do for ourselves too) - but Rishi's

question is still unanswered.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> Although we gain much through our kindness and charity, if we do

these for gain, they are neither kindness nor charity but self-

interest in disguise. Our gains should come as the wake of a boat, a

result but not the purpose.

>

> ************************************************

>

> >

> > bhaskar_jyotish

> > Mon, 11 Sep 2006 09:41:57 -0000

> >

> > Re: Headlines Today TV-Last word 10/9

> >

> > Sir,

> >

> > I think that for a severe Balarishta Yoga, the prediction given

to a

> > new/little old born childs parents, would be fatilistic, and

all would

> > have to wait for the inevitable to happen, but in case

> > when you see a native with impending heart problems, or Shani

sade

> > sathi approaching , the fatilistic approach would turn into a

saviour

> > for these natives and help and prepare them by way of

> > starting remedial measures, much before the incident would

happen,

> > and thus reduce the impact.This is with reference to astrology.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , Prafulla Gang

<jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> >>

> >> Dear Shri Kumar ji / Bhaskar ji,

> >>

> >> Kindly reread my message (and the prior message of Bhaskar

ji). It

> > was stated that, it was god's desire - so nothing could

change? - So

> > I pondered to that note, if predictions are fatalistic (will

happen

> > for sure!!) and if so, relevance of remedial measures.

> >>

> >> Also refer Rishi's mail on another thread, where he wondered,

why

> > not remedial measure for 3/6/10/11 bhavas? Why only for dharma

and

> > moksha kona?

> >>

> >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >>

> >> Although we gain much through our kindness and charity, if we

do

> > these for gain, they are neither kindness nor charity but self-

> > interest in disguise. Our gains should come as the wake of a

boat, a

> > result but not the purpose.

> >>

> >> ************************************************

> >>

> >>

> >>>

> >>> gbp_kumar@

> >>> Mon, 11 Sep 2006 01:56:04 -0700 (PDT)

> >>>

> >>> Re: Re: Headlines Today TV-Last word 10/9

> >>>

> >>> Prafulla,

> >>> predictions are not fatelistic, it is realistic, western

> > astrology uses

> >>> fatelims, we do to Karma, collective karma and its

> > effect a

> >>> collection of them are needed just like how we have a leader,

> > king, don,

> >>> CEO who sahpes our good karma w.r.t income., life so too our

> > evil time

> >>> we need one who will lead us to collective death , strife,

> > tragedy etc.

> >>> the Samohika karmaphala

> >>>

> >>> I had givne the instance of they young Shankaracharya here

> > sotme back

> >>>

> >>> in short again here

> >>> when a tourist bus was carrying piligrim s to Tirumala

hills a

> > bus

> >>> skided and was just on one wheel and almost at the tail end

of the

> >>> ravine a slight shift in soil due the balance of th ebus more

on

> > the

> >>> edge could have taken all down but some how it got help and

was

> > pulled

> >>> out then there was a astrolgoer who took the data of all the

> > piligrims

> >>> in the bus and found that a 4 yr kid had a great aura, karma

> > that he

> >>> will be respectd by the high and the mighty the coman man

alike

> > and his

> >>> good soul amoungst them did save them all. this bouy in 4 yrs

> > later

> >>> became the youngest sankaracharya of the shankara mutt so far,

> > noow

> >>> called Vijayedra saraswathi [his younger brothers in the one

more

> >>> accused in the Kanchi mut murder case whicb has draged even

> > Jayednra

> >>> saraswathi in to its web.

> >>>

> >>> so a good soul amoung us can help us a evil soul amoung us

can

> > destroy

> >>> us and our karma balances willget adjusted in some future

lives if

> >>> anyone of us die prematurely [there is always a windofor good

and

> > bad

> >>> that is whywe cant predict for sure, we can get closr to 80-

85%

> > max rest

> >>> is god's will..

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> wrote:

> >>> Dear Bhaskar ji,

> >>>

> >>> Does it imply that predictions are fatalistic in nature

> > (whether for

> >>> mundane or an individual)? and if yes, role of remedial

measure?

> >>>

> >>> Without getting into the might of GOD (No doubts about it),

in

> > my view

> >>> - astrology can be used in preparing human being, to meet

the

> >>> uncertain (? - if can be predicted, then wrong to call it

> > uncertain

> >>> !!) future and more importantly, to draw the karmic

patterns,

> > so that

> >>> native (mind and physical body) can use the awareness (or

say

> >>> awakening) towards the ultimate objective of soul (i.e.

mukti

> > from the

> >>> life/death cycle).

> >>>

> >>> On a seperate thread Rishi ji raised the relevance of

remedial

> > issues

> >>> for Dharma and moksha Kona - perhaps, for the basic purpose

of

> > jyotish.

> >>>

> >>> regards / Prafulla

> >>>

> >>> , "Bhaskar"

> >>> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >>> >

> >>> > Shri Jagdishji,

> >>> >

> >>> > Though this question was not for me, I would certainly

> >>> > like to answer it., in short.

> >>> >

> >>> > 1) Man cannot defeat God or his intentions in whatever

way he

> > may

> >>> try.

> >>> > If God decides that so much of weight has to be cleared

> > from

> >>> > earth, he would not allow any human being to get

> > foreknowledge of

> >>> > this happening in advance. No thoughts are seperate from

God,

> > I mean

> >>> > He knows what man is capable of and thinking and doing.

Just

> > like

> >>> > a big server has control over thousands of computers and

> > lakhs of

> >>> > ids, in the same way God is the biggest server and

> > nothing is

> >>> > unopened for him., orno thought of any man is unaccessible

> > from Him.

> >>> >

> >>> > 2) Second possibility does exist. So before venturing to

> > mouth our

> >>> > predictionc in public, we have to be pretty sure about

that.

> >>> >

> >>> > regards,

> >>> > Bhaskar.

> >>> >

> >>> >

> >>> >

> >>> >

> >>> > , Prathamesn Chawan

> >>> > <upaoakcrest@> wrote:

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Dear Ji

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Greetings

> >>> > >

> >>> > > People come to know about flood, hurricane and

earthquake

> > before

> >>> > hand through astrologers.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Now there are two possabilities.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > 1) Prediction went right

> >>> > >

> >>> > > In this case many people can save their lives by

acting

> > before

> >>> > natural disaster comes. But what if it was God's wish to

kill

> > many

> >>> > people by these natural disasters ?

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Isnt it astrologers are trying to defeat God ?

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > 2) Prediction went wrong

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Many people who believe in astrology must have lose

their

> > faith

> >>> > and Astrologers and astrology will be a mockery for them.

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > So astrologers and other people are in two-sided-

sword.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Any comments ?

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Jagdish

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > <gg_0202@> wrote:

> >>> > > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> >>> > > Dear Prasanthji, Bhaskarji & other members,

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Believe it or not, few months before when i was reading

> >>> > > brihatsamhita, i told my mother that after september's

lunar

> >>> > > eclipse, there are strong possibilities of a tsunami(as

> > after the

> >>> > > eclipse, moon shifted to a watery sign)......

> >>> > > Tremours were felt today in Manipur, however the

> > measurement in r-

> >>> > > scale is only 4....

> >>> > > I told my reading to my mother only...n also to few of

my

> > friends,

> >>> > > who trust me....

> >>> > > Regards,

> >>> > > Gaurav

> >>> > > http://gauravastro.150m.com

> >>> > >

> >>> > > , "Bhaskar"

> >>> > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > > Shri Prashant Sahab,

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > > Namaste.

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > > I read about this fellow two days back on morning

> > newspapers.

> >>> > > > He is not at all a astrolger. But he did mention how

he

> >>> > > > predicts , he said that when Sun Moon ,mercury in one

> > line.

> >>> > > > etc.........etc. explanations he gave.

> >>> > > > He is actually a geologist, but then geology is

allowed

> >>> > > > to take these factors (Outer space bodies in relation

to

> > Earth),

> >>> > > > So we cant blame him as a geologist. but cannot equate

> > him with

> >>> > > > a astrologer though he may use the same instruments

for

> >>> > > > his forecasting, but astrology as a study is different

> >>> > > > and geology is different.,just like a knife in the

> > housewives

> >>> hand

> >>> > > > is used differently and in the surgeons hand in

another

> > way.

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > > Today also they were calling on Aaj tak Channel as

> > Ganeshji

> >>> > taking

> >>> > > > milk as and vishwas. These media people also it seems

> > have been

> >>> > > > purchased by the Dons sitting in neighbour country,

or by

> >>> > > > seculars of own country or by missionaries from

foreign

> >>> > countries,

> >>> > > or

> >>> > > > they just want to look very secular by talking in this

> > manner.

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > > regards,

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > > Bhaskar.

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > > regards,

> >>> > > > Bhaskar.

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > > , Prashant

Kumar G

> > B

> >>> > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > > Dear Readers,

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > > There was a short animated discussion with KN Rao,

> >>> > > Venketramani

> >>> > > > who predicts earth quakes with astro-goloogical

factors

> > has 70%

> >>> > > > success rated did predict Tsunami too. Mahdu and

another

> > the

> >>> > > last 2

> >>> > > > strong leftists.

> >>> > > > > who used/hijacked the program to rubbsh and bedunk

> > astrology

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > > the moderators successful prediction and failed

> > predictions

> >>> > > lack

> >>> > > > any study whatsoever worse is putting Naothedams

> > predicitons on

> >>> > > may

> >>> > > > events no in India which itself is a discredited

> > collection.

> >>> > > > > thenthe failed ones when 12/13 astrologers failed

> >>> > > inprediciting

> >>> > > > the defeat of NDA, the failed prediciton of Raman's

in 71

> > when

> >>> > > > Indira Gandhi was supposed to loose but woen by a

bumper

> >>> majority.

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > > BUT no time was given to KNR ao and Venketramani

about

> > the

> >>> > > > successful ones of RAMAN, OR KN RAos said in Aaj tak

on

> > 7th he

> >>> > > > had predicted the Maalgon incident saying a major

> > terrorist

> >>> > > attack

> >>> > > > will happen near a religious place

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > > Venketramanis forecast of a major earth quake in

assak

> >>> > > location

> >>> > > > also given with 3 deg variation that is 300kms and 3

day

> > error

> >>> > > was

> >>> > > > given a rude dismisal for making the state spend

millions

> >>> > > inshifting

> >>> > > > people

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > > Venket as what about cyclone predicitons do they

happen

> > to the

> >>> > > > spot, date and evacuations occur then too as

precautonary

> > too.

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > > well there is one more day to go for his forecast to

> > happen

> >>> > > > > KN RAO said wait till 13 all factors fora earth

quake r

> > there

> >>> > > > astrologically.

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > > TIME WILL TELL

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > > But please write to press, tv to allow more time for

> >>> > > astologers

> >>> > > > than cynics to say anying as cynics are there anyway.

esp

> > the

> >>> > > left

> >>> > > > brigade in the print and TV media..

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > > Prashantkumar G B

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on

> >>> > >

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> >>> > > phone.

> >>> > > > > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay

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