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Someone talked about someone whose second memorial I could not

attend. The friend of the One who had recently died talked about a

statement the demised soul had made when a lot younger. Paraphrased,

since I heard this like third hand, it was: The only way to face

one's fear is to connect to it!

 

Simple statement, but does this raise the possibility that

ultimately, that which we fear, often because it is unknown or

perceived so -- must be faced (how much closer and connected can one

get?) and only then can we realize what was 'separating' it from us

in the reality of our perception? And perhaps through that exercise

we go beyond it and face other bigger fears that keep growing over

time, over lifetimes?

 

Is self-realization, the growth of soul, similar to commando

training, about learning the martial arts, in a sense?

 

Must the one who fears wasps and honey-bees, at one point take on the

profession of a bug-exterminator, simply stated? Or he who fears of

death, join the army engaged in active combat (or equivalent)? Shades

of Gita? Even if few would agree that though dharma is driving the

wars around, it is hardly Dharma-Yuddha!

 

Just musing ... folks, just musing ...

[Guest guest]

Once the wasp has stung...but RRji, it also depends where exactly has

it stung!

 

 

, "crystal pages"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Someone talked about someone whose second memorial I could not

> attend. The friend of the One who had recently died talked about a

> statement the demised soul had made when a lot younger.

Paraphrased,

> since I heard this like third hand, it was: The only way to face

> one's fear is to connect to it!

>

> Simple statement, but does this raise the possibility that

> ultimately, that which we fear, often because it is unknown or

> perceived so -- must be faced (how much closer and connected can

one

> get?) and only then can we realize what was 'separating' it from us

> in the reality of our perception? And perhaps through that exercise

> we go beyond it and face other bigger fears that keep growing over

> time, over lifetimes?

>

> Is self-realization, the growth of soul, similar to commando

> training, about learning the martial arts, in a sense?

>

> Must the one who fears wasps and honey-bees, at one point take on

the

> profession of a bug-exterminator, simply stated? Or he who fears of

> death, join the army engaged in active combat (or equivalent)?

Shades

> of Gita? Even if few would agree that though dharma is driving the

> wars around, it is hardly Dharma-Yuddha!

>

> Just musing ... folks, just musing ...

>

[Guest guest]

Hand of the father when he was 20 something, all over the face of the

child when he was 2 or 3. Guess which one hurt more and induced more

fear!

 

It is not an open book exam! Don't try to look up reference books ;-)

 

, "rishi_2000in"

<rishi_2000in wrote:

>

> Once the wasp has stung...but RRji, it also depends where exactly

has

> it stung!

>

>

> , "crystal pages"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Someone talked about someone whose second memorial I could not

> > attend. The friend of the One who had recently died talked about

a

> > statement the demised soul had made when a lot younger.

> Paraphrased,

> > since I heard this like third hand, it was: The only way to face

> > one's fear is to connect to it!

> >

> > Simple statement, but does this raise the possibility that

> > ultimately, that which we fear, often because it is unknown or

> > perceived so -- must be faced (how much closer and connected can

> one

> > get?) and only then can we realize what was 'separating' it from

us

> > in the reality of our perception? And perhaps through that

exercise

> > we go beyond it and face other bigger fears that keep growing

over

> > time, over lifetimes?

> >

> > Is self-realization, the growth of soul, similar to commando

> > training, about learning the martial arts, in a sense?

> >

> > Must the one who fears wasps and honey-bees, at one point take on

> the

> > profession of a bug-exterminator, simply stated? Or he who fears

of

> > death, join the army engaged in active combat (or equivalent)?

> Shades

> > of Gita? Even if few would agree that though dharma is driving

the

> > wars around, it is hardly Dharma-Yuddha!

> >

> > Just musing ... folks, just musing ...

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The intention more important, I suppose.

Someone erudite once said,

"Strike hard, beloved, for how else will I know of your love"

 

 

 

, "crystal pages"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Hand of the father when he was 20 something, all over the face of

the

> child when he was 2 or 3. Guess which one hurt more and induced

more

> fear!

>

> It is not an open book exam! Don't try to look up reference books ;-

)

>

> , "rishi_2000in"

> <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> >

> > Once the wasp has stung...but RRji, it also depends where exactly

> has

> > it stung!

> >

> >

> > , "crystal pages"

> > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Someone talked about someone whose second memorial I could not

> > > attend. The friend of the One who had recently died talked

about

> a

> > > statement the demised soul had made when a lot younger.

> > Paraphrased,

> > > since I heard this like third hand, it was: The only way to

face

> > > one's fear is to connect to it!

> > >

> > > Simple statement, but does this raise the possibility that

> > > ultimately, that which we fear, often because it is unknown or

> > > perceived so -- must be faced (how much closer and connected

can

> > one

> > > get?) and only then can we realize what was 'separating' it

from

> us

> > > in the reality of our perception? And perhaps through that

> exercise

> > > we go beyond it and face other bigger fears that keep growing

> over

> > > time, over lifetimes?

> > >

> > > Is self-realization, the growth of soul, similar to commando

> > > training, about learning the martial arts, in a sense?

> > >

> > > Must the one who fears wasps and honey-bees, at one point take

on

> > the

> > > profession of a bug-exterminator, simply stated? Or he who

fears

> of

> > > death, join the army engaged in active combat (or equivalent)?

> > Shades

> > > of Gita? Even if few would agree that though dharma is driving

> the

> > > wars around, it is hardly Dharma-Yuddha!

> > >

> > > Just musing ... folks, just musing ...

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Rishi,

 

Love should not, I will say MUST NOT ever be expressed through or

received through pain!

 

This would be like saying that night and day are the same. Now I

realize that in pragmatic reality, day has specs of night and night

is not all dark and has specs of light, but that is because there is

no total day or total night in this reality, but in pure form they

are absolutely exclusive: night and day, love and pain!

 

RR

 

, "rishi_2000in"

<rishi_2000in wrote:

>

> The intention more important, I suppose.

> Someone erudite once said,

> "Strike hard, beloved, for how else will I know of your love"

>

>

>

> , "crystal pages"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Hand of the father when he was 20 something, all over the face of

> the

> > child when he was 2 or 3. Guess which one hurt more and induced

> more

> > fear!

> >

> > It is not an open book exam! Don't try to look up reference

books ;-

> )

> >

> > , "rishi_2000in"

> > <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Once the wasp has stung...but RRji, it also depends where

exactly

> > has

> > > it stung!

> > >

> > >

> > > , "crystal pages"

> > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Someone talked about someone whose second memorial I could

not

> > > > attend. The friend of the One who had recently died talked

> about

> > a

> > > > statement the demised soul had made when a lot younger.

> > > Paraphrased,

> > > > since I heard this like third hand, it was: The only way to

> face

> > > > one's fear is to connect to it!

> > > >

> > > > Simple statement, but does this raise the possibility that

> > > > ultimately, that which we fear, often because it is unknown

or

> > > > perceived so -- must be faced (how much closer and connected

> can

> > > one

> > > > get?) and only then can we realize what was 'separating' it

> from

> > us

> > > > in the reality of our perception? And perhaps through that

> > exercise

> > > > we go beyond it and face other bigger fears that keep growing

> > over

> > > > time, over lifetimes?

> > > >

> > > > Is self-realization, the growth of soul, similar to commando

> > > > training, about learning the martial arts, in a sense?

> > > >

> > > > Must the one who fears wasps and honey-bees, at one point

take

> on

> > > the

> > > > profession of a bug-exterminator, simply stated? Or he who

> fears

> > of

> > > > death, join the army engaged in active combat (or

equivalent)?

> > > Shades

> > > > of Gita? Even if few would agree that though dharma is

driving

> > the

> > > > wars around, it is hardly Dharma-Yuddha!

> > > >

> > > > Just musing ... folks, just musing ...

> > > >

> > >

> >

>