Guest guest Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 hello sir, i hope ur parents taught u what is decent and acceptable behaviour.? u contribute positive to the issue then it would be better. running down people, making statements which are just put down. we never claimed any thing . for a start have u made any predictions? if not then please do it? we donot want any ideas from people who have proved any thing.worthless chatter box. bye ramalingam. -- In , "Inder Jit Sahni" <inder_jit_sahni wrote: > > Dear Mr, Ramalingam, > You seems to be a great student of a great astrologer of this century. > Did your Guru predicted for the cancelation of the series? > With best wishes, > Inder jit sahni > - > ramalingam2_sekar > > Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:04 AM > Re: why prediction of great astrologer spk rising fails once again? > > > --- > hello sir, > u had said in ur post > > "I predict that Sri lanka will do well in the tri > series in Sri lanka." > > why did u fail? every thing is so general easy for great mind like u > to predict ? when srilanka series itself was cancelled why ur > greatness failed to see it?when u have failed u donot have humility > to say so and instead point fingers at others?can u advance some > great theory and > techiques why u failed we can all learn from this.if u believe > astrology is so general why are writing and reading about it? > according to ur opinion only u can predict no one else when some one > predict every thing is general, it could have been said by any one.. > why donot sponsor research of rs one lakh instead of putting down any > one ? > bye > ramalingam. > > In , SPK <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > Which USA open you are talking about ? What sport ? > > Please sepcify. > > > > If you are talking about tennis, look at the seeding > > and you know what the organizers beleive. > > > > 1. Federer > > 2. Nadal > > > > Roddick may sneak into semis. > > > > Did anyone predict Oval test outcome as a forfeiture ? > > This happened for the first time in 129 years of > > Cricket history. If astrology could see these things, > > this was an instance where a completely unusual and > > unexpected happened. Did anyone see it ...NO NO NO. > > Did you predict that the tri sereis will not > > happen..NO.If you are really interested in advancing > > this tool and research try and make some positive > > contributions..not some generalities.Let those who > > actually do the predicting post on the groups. Why are > > you posting on behalf of someone else. > > > > Satish > > > > --- ramalingam2_sekar <ramalingam2_sekar@> > > wrote: > > > > > hello list members, > > > why donot the people who continously put down other > > > people predict > > > on usa open .some one made mocking comment it is so > > > easy? > > > any one can do it? it is only choice of two? any > > > country war will > > > happen. why are making any predictions? theory of > > > randomness and > > > probabilty can be used. > > > bye > > > ramalingam > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In , SPK > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Sundeep, > > > > > > > > Excellent post. I have been making similar point > > > for > > > > sometime now. Your post makes an excellent > > > observation > > > > of probability of being randomly correct. > > > > > > > > Its like someone saying that Australia will do > > > well in > > > > next cricket world cup. I mean they have been in > > > > finals in the past 3 world cups, so someone touts > > > that > > > > as a prediction, I feel that does not need any > > > > astrological knowledge what so ever. If one puts > > > > country chart and tithi pravesha and 20 divisional > > > > charts to back their prediction, I would consider > > > it a > > > > waste of time as same can be arrived at with an > > > ounce > > > > of commonsense. > > > > > > > > Anyone who can read and can use a program to cast > > > a > > > > horoscope can tell what lagna is in all the > > > divisions, > > > > what arudha is for a chart, yada yada yada. It is > > > > ameaningless banter. Predict when there are more > > > than > > > > two possibilities ( low probability of an event) > > > and > > > > do it consistently. > > > > > > > > Unfortunately I do not see anyone who can do such > > > a > > > > thing, even the most celebrated ones can not do > > > this. > > > > Thats why astrology is not taken seriously by most > > > > rational people. > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > --- vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Bharatji, > > > > > Not only that, I feel what most people dont > > > > > understand is that in > > > > > order to understand the true value of a > > > prediction, > > > > > you must > > > > > additionally attach to it the probability of > > > > > randomly being correct. > > > > > For example, in two-outcome situations with > > > > > approximately equally > > > > > matched opponents e.g. a match between two teams > > > or > > > > > an election > > > > > between two candidates or a bill being > > > > > passed/rejected by lawmakers, > > > > > the probability of randomly being correct in a > > > > > prediction, without > > > > > using any principles whatsoever, is 0.5. > > > > > Consequently, any prediction > > > > > of such situations does not carry much weight to > > > > > begin with. In order > > > > > for a prediction to carry a lot of weight, the > > > > > probability of > > > > > randomly being correct should be very low. > > > > > > > > > > For example, if an astrologer were to correctly > > > > > predict the month and > > > > > year of birth of the first child of a person > > > when > > > > > the person was not > > > > > even thinking of being married, it would be an > > > > > extremely impressive > > > > > prediction, because the probability of randomly > > > > > being correct would > > > > > be very low. A random prediction would have to > > > > > select from at least > > > > > 10 childbearing years in each of which there > > > would > > > > > be 12 > > > > > possibilities. So there would be at least a 100 > > > > > possibilities making > > > > > the probability of a random hit being 0.01. > > > > > > > > > > Such predictions have to be highlighted (I mean > > > > > those in which random > > > > > chance of correctness is very low). Otherwise, > > > if > > > > > two-outcome > > > > > situations are what are to be focussed on, then > > > a > > > > > string of two > > > > > outcome situations must be shown e.g. a list of > > > > > twenty matches, in > > > > > each of which the prediction came true. The > > > > > probability of RANDOMLY > > > > > being correct in ALL 20, would be 0.5*0.5*0.5.. > > > > > twenty times, which > > > > > is very low. > > > > > > > > > > It is also not ok to post simply the matches in > > > > > which a prediction > > > > > was correct. All matches for which predictions > > > were > > > > > made must be > > > > > posted, even those that were wrong, so that an > > > > > observant reader can > > > > > contrast the random chance of success with the > > > > > astrologer's > > > > > prediction quality. > > > > > > > > > > I say all this not to put down astrologers, only > > > to > > > > > awaken them to > > > > > mathematical realities. If they respected > > > certain > > > > > mathematical > > > > > realities, and presented their predictions > > > within > > > > > the context of > > > > > these realities, the average person would > > > quickly > > > > > accept their > > > > > results. Moreover, it would serve as a litmus > > > test > > > > > for good > > > > > astrologers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Bharat > > > Hindu > > > > > Astrology" > > > > > <hinduastrology@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Ramalingam > > > > > > > > > > > > Wouldn't it be better if you inform of such > > > posts, > > > > > when they are > > > > > written and > > > > > > not when they come true? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 Dear Ramalingam, Master Inder Jit is a proven, serious, experienced astrologer, and a teacher and his predictions are hardly ever wrong. These are the facts. You, and we all, would benefit more if you had asked him a particular questions instead of /inappropriately/ 'lecturing' him- those who teach us like Mr. Inder Jit, deserve all our respect. Besides, your comments have nothing to do with Jyotish, so let's stop wasting and abusing this forum /applies to my message as well/ Regards, Anna ramalingam2_sekar <ramalingam2_sekar > wrote: hello sir, i hope ur parents taught u what is decent and acceptable behaviour.? u contribute positive to the issue then it would be better. running down people, making statements which are just put down. we never claimed any thing . for a start have u made any predictions? if not then please do it? we donot want any ideas from people who have proved any thing.worthless chatter box. bye ramalingam. -- In , "Inder Jit Sahni" <inder_jit_sahni wrote: > > Dear Mr, Ramalingam, > You seems to be a great student of a great astrologer of this century. > Did your Guru predicted for the cancelation of the series? > With best wishes, > Inder jit sahni > - > ramalingam2_sekar > > Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:04 AM > Re: why prediction of great astrologer spk rising fails once again? > > > --- > hello sir, > u had said in ur post > > "I predict that Sri lanka will do well in the tri > series in Sri lanka." > > why did u fail? every thing is so general easy for great mind like u > to predict ? when srilanka series itself was cancelled why ur > greatness failed to see it?when u have failed u donot have humility > to say so and instead point fingers at others?can u advance some > great theory and > techiques why u failed we can all learn from this.if u believe > astrology is so general why are writing and reading about it? > according to ur opinion only u can predict no one else when some one > predict every thing is general, it could have been said by any one.. > why donot sponsor research of rs one lakh instead of putting down any > one ? > bye > ramalingam. > > In , SPK <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > Which USA open you are talking about ? What sport ? > > Please sepcify. > > > > If you are talking about tennis, look at the seeding > > and you know what the organizers beleive. > > > > 1. Federer > > 2. Nadal > > > > Roddick may sneak into semis. > > > > Did anyone predict Oval test outcome as a forfeiture ? > > This happened for the first time in 129 years of > > Cricket history. If astrology could see these things, > > this was an instance where a completely unusual and > > unexpected happened. Did anyone see it ...NO NO NO. > > Did you predict that the tri sereis will not > > happen..NO.If you are really interested in advancing > > this tool and research try and make some positive > > contributions..not some generalities.Let those who > > actually do the predicting post on the groups. Why are > > you posting on behalf of someone else. > > > > Satish > > > > --- ramalingam2_sekar <ramalingam2_sekar@> > > wrote: > > > > > hello list members, > > > why donot the people who continously put down other > > > people predict > > > on usa open .some one made mocking comment it is so > > > easy? > > > any one can do it? it is only choice of two? any > > > country war will > > > happen. why are making any predictions? theory of > > > randomness and > > > probabilty can be used. > > > bye > > > ramalingam > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In , SPK > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Sundeep, > > > > > > > > Excellent post. I have been making similar point > > > for > > > > sometime now. Your post makes an excellent > > > observation > > > > of probability of being randomly correct. > > > > > > > > Its like someone saying that Australia will do > > > well in > > > > next cricket world cup. I mean they have been in > > > > finals in the past 3 world cups, so someone touts > > > that > > > > as a prediction, I feel that does not need any > > > > astrological knowledge what so ever. If one puts > > > > country chart and tithi pravesha and 20 divisional > > > > charts to back their prediction, I would consider > > > it a > > > > waste of time as same can be arrived at with an > > > ounce > > > > of commonsense. > > > > > > > > Anyone who can read and can use a program to cast > > > a > > > > horoscope can tell what lagna is in all the > > > divisions, > > > > what arudha is for a chart, yada yada yada. It is > > > > ameaningless banter. Predict when there are more > > > than > > > > two possibilities ( low probability of an event) > > > and > > > > do it consistently. > > > > > > > > Unfortunately I do not see anyone who can do such > > > a > > > > thing, even the most celebrated ones can not do > > > this. > > > > Thats why astrology is not taken seriously by most > > > > rational people. > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > --- vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Bharatji, > > > > > Not only that, I feel what most people dont > > > > > understand is that in > > > > > order to understand the true value of a > > > prediction, > > > > > you must > > > > > additionally attach to it the probability of > > > > > randomly being correct. > > > > > For example, in two-outcome situations with > > > > > approximately equally > > > > > matched opponents e.g. a match between two teams > > > or > > > > > an election > > > > > between two candidates or a bill being > > > > > passed/rejected by lawmakers, > > > > > the probability of randomly being correct in a > > > > > prediction, without > > > > > using any principles whatsoever, is 0.5. > > > > > Consequently, any prediction > > > > > of such situations does not carry much weight to > > > > > begin with. In order > > > > > for a prediction to carry a lot of weight, the > > > > > probability of > > > > > randomly being correct should be very low. > > > > > > > > > > For example, if an astrologer were to correctly > > > > > predict the month and > > > > > year of birth of the first child of a person > > > when > > > > > the person was not > > > > > even thinking of being married, it would be an > > > > > extremely impressive > > > > > prediction, because the probability of randomly > > > > > being correct would > > > > > be very low. A random prediction would have to > > > > > select from at least > > > > > 10 childbearing years in each of which there > > > would > > > > > be 12 > > > > > possibilities. So there would be at least a 100 > > > > > possibilities making > > > > > the probability of a random hit being 0.01. > > > > > > > > > > Such predictions have to be highlighted (I mean > > > > > those in which random > > > > > chance of correctness is very low). Otherwise, > > > if > > > > > two-outcome > > > > > situations are what are to be focussed on, then > > > a > > > > > string of two > > > > > outcome situations must be shown e.g. a list of > > > > > twenty matches, in > > > > > each of which the prediction came true. The > > > > > probability of RANDOMLY > > > > > being correct in ALL 20, would be 0.5*0.5*0.5.. > > > > > twenty times, which > > > > > is very low. > > > > > > > > > > It is also not ok to post simply the matches in > > > > > which a prediction > > > > > was correct. All matches for which predictions > > > were > > > > > made must be > > > > > posted, even those that were wrong, so that an > > > > > observant reader can > > > > > contrast the random chance of success with the > > > > > astrologer's > > > > > prediction quality. > > > > > > > > > > I say all this not to put down astrologers, only > > > to > > > > > awaken them to > > > > > mathematical realities. If they respected > > > certain > > > > > mathematical > > > > > realities, and presented their predictions > > > within > > > > > the context of > > > > > these realities, the average person would > > > quickly > > > > > accept their > > > > > results. Moreover, it would serve as a litmus > > > test > > > > > for good > > > > > astrologers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Bharat > > > Hindu > > > > > Astrology" > > > > > <hinduastrology@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Ramalingam > > > > > > > > > > > > Wouldn't it be better if you inform of such > > > posts, > > > > > when they are > > > > > written and > > > > > > not when they come true? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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