Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 Disciple: Is the world perceived by the jnani? Maharshi: From whom is the question? Is it from a jnani or ajnani? D: From an ajnani, I admit. M: Is it the world that seeks to decide the issue about it's reality? The doubt arises in you. Know in the first instance who the doubter is, and then you may consider if the world is real or not. D: The ajnani sees and knows the world and its objects, which affect his senses of touch, taste, etc. Does the jnani experience the world in like manner? M: You talk of seeing and knowing the world. But without knowing yourself, the knowing subject (without whom there is no knowledge of the object), how can you know the true nature of the world, the known object? No doubt objects affect the body and the sense organs, but is it to your body that the question arises? Does the body say, "I feel the object, it is real"? Or is it the world that says to you, "I, the world, am real"? D: I am only trying to understand the jnani's point of view about the world. Is the world perceived after Self realization? M: Why worry yourself about the world and what happens to it after Self-realization? First realize the Self. What does it matter if the world is perceived or not? Do you gain anything to help you in your quest by the non-perception of the world during sleep? Conversely, what would you lose now by the perception of the world? It is quite immaterial to the jnani or ajnani if he perceives the world or not. It is seen by both, but their viewpoints differ. (From Maharshi's Gospel, published by Sri Ramanasramam and available for download from http://www.ramana- <http://www.ramana-maharshi.org/> maharshi.org/ ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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