Guest guest Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 Hello Arjun Ji I used to respect you, but now let me tell you some things very clearly. First thing what I say clearly that my impression about which I had been having for last few years or so is changing. In some of your posts you have made a lot of positive comments about me but sametime you also very cunningly write some very insulting things about me, like 1. clever, 2. hypocrat, 3. dictator etc. This is a very mean, cunning, and EVIL way to insult someone. You may have knowledge and wisdom but you are very well endowed with these devilish qualities as well. The poll was not "cleverly formatted" as you say but it was formatted in a way so that a member can find his perfect answer in it, because it had all the possible answers about the situation. Your cunning comments about this poll shows that you even lack in commmon sense, or do not have it at all. It was a combination of all possible options so that a member wanting ANYTHING will have his perfect option. It is not that you have lost you eyes and unable to read the options and so you are blindly throwing pieces of bricks at the target and SO I set 3 options of my choice out of all 4 so that blindly throwing hits at it will cause most of the hits to my favour as they are three-fourth of it. You understand? And what is so wrong with you that you are saying all contradictory things in the same mail ? What has got you so messed up. In the beginning of your mail you have said that I have two objectives, reinserting Bhaskar Ji is the second of them. And in the same mail toward the end, you say, "the owner publicly exhibiting that he will not remove the ban on bhaskarji even if 100 people ask for it." So when you say I will not remove the ban even if 100 members request, then how can you say that one of my two objective is to reinsert Bhaskar Ji ?? Out of your mind ? Or just to eager to blame me so you say whatever comes to your mind ? Let me tell you one thing. If I needed to reinsert Bhaskar Ji I would not need any poll or anything. Because as many of the members wanted him to come back, I could easily to that, I needed no other support like poll or anything. Or even I could reinsert him even if no one wanted, too. But what Bhaskar Ji has done, wrote me a series of mails showing great false respect, praising me, flaterring me but his insulting comments are very clear from the posts some other members have forwarded to the list. This is the same behaviour to you, putting so high praises on and then when it does not fit your wish, posting mean comments in a very cunning way. You have wrote that many have objected Ashutosh Ji as a moderator and I have kept silent about it. What an idiotic statement. If I kept silent then why did I create the poll for? Or in the poll only the membership of Bhaskar Ji could be the topic but I included the topic of Ashutosh Ji's moderatorship too. Some people have also said that the poll is INEFFECTIVE because only 50 people or so voted at it. What a crap. This forum has got 5500+ people BUT do they participate all the time? Do more than 50 people participate in discussions regularly? So then what I do, keep the 50 participating members and remove all others?? Does all the astro discussion goes meaningless just because all the members are no participating? If a member wants Bhaskar Ji to be back or whatsoever decision to be taken, he should of course vote at the poll. And if a member feels that he has an opinion but still does not vote, then what we can do about him and how can he expect his opinion to be valued and counted? And when the majority of the people are not voting it just means that they are not concerned about the issue, not reading messages, are away etc. Just like not more than 50 people join the discussion, just like that. It does not waste the votes of active members because the people wh are not voting are just neutral. And they take neither side. So? And DO YOU SEE, that more number of people have responded in the poll than they did through post ? On this controversy many would not like to post in discussion because they hate enmity, and that's why more people voted in the poll than discussion because it assured them to keep anonymous. When people post for a decision then it is hard to distinguish what the majority wants because I cannot sit and count the messages and try to figure out who has wanted what. That is why to know well and clear about the members' demands, the poll was created. If I did not believe in democracy, I would not have created the poll. And just because I do not listen to YOUR OPINION (Your offer to be a moderator etc.) you call me dictator. Listen I have no care, concern or whatever about whatever a person like you call me. If the poll is ineffective because 50 or so has voted, then the demand of you through posts is MORE INEFFECTIVE because SIMILAR NUMBER OR EVEN LESS NUMBER of members have posted about the issue. So what would you say? You are very cunning and reissuing the issue even though it was almost sorted out. Yesterday all the day there was hardly any post on this topic but today you are re-inserting this topic to create debates and flames. You know politics better than you know jyotish. I have seen in this forum and other forums that when a member contributes through posting, he eventually starts thinking that the forum has got HIS PROPERTY but to me it is the PUBLIC PROPERTY and TO LISTEN TO PUBLIC I have created the poll. But you are trying to put a bad impression of me by calling me dictator just because I did not listened to you BUT TO THE MAJORITY. A member contributing ONE MILLION post per day does NOT gain the right to abuse any other member or religion or nation or whatsoever. Just like a rich person establishing 100 hospitals do not gain right for killing a sinlge person. Democracy is equal for all people or the country. SO IT IS AT JR. You are cunningly pressurizing me to submit to your demands but let me tell you that I will NOT. I will take decision as per the members demands IT MEANS ALL THE MEMBERS VOICING and not a FEW HANDFUL like you, just you shout louder and frequently does not mean that I have to put more weight on it. You have contributed enough and the reward is respect and honour that you automatically got. And now by your meanness you automatically lose much of it. The group has got a lot of contribution from yours that is true but it does not mean that you must be made the moderator. I see where your frustration is. I will not submit to a handful mean person but do what the majority of the people say and what I think to be right. Bhaskar Ji was banned and I DO KNOW that it was bad for the forum as POSTS and KNOWLEDGE is concerned. No one loves JR than me and no one is more concerned about it than me. Or do you claim that you are? Huh? But even then his banning was GOOD for the environment and justice, as I said, saving million lives do not entitle one to kill even one. Still I said that if he apologizes then I would reactivate his membership but he did NOT. Rather he sent me a series of personal mails flaterring me but I was not flattered and then soon through a mail forward by others he shows his real nature by calling Ashutosh Ji wolf and calling himself a lion and mentioning that I am cutting off the lion. (And so many mean things.) Oh yes I will cut off the lion if it kills others and if I have the ability to cut it. Why not. I will feel bad when this group will be less active for contributing people leaving but that does not mean that I will keep mean people like you or I will compromise with justice. And submitting to your cunning political pressure is the last thing I would do. Yes I do believe in God and JR is on his hand and so is it's future. I cannot and will not submit to your cunning moves of evil politics to make JR more active and better. I will not do so even if JR dies, or anything. I do not hanker after money, cheap popularity (Like you and Bhaskar Ji flattered me and eventually insulted too) I do not want your respect, and nor I lose anything for your insult. I have no concern whatsoever about it. Because I know what I am and so do the people who are close to me and BY THIS WHOLE EVENT ANYONE who carefully observed this whole event sees my role and has no doubt about what I want to do. 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