Guest guest Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 Hare Krsna. I see that this question has been fully explored, but that the answer to the problem, though identified has not been properly engineered. ISKCON in its early trials put milk center stage, putting the cart before the horse, wheras it is crops which are what earn, meaning using the oxen. If oxen and crops, not cows and milk, are thus seen as the only way to make a farm profitable, let alone self sufficient, as is Prabhupada's original ideal, then really we need to work on CSA All Organic production. This is where I am at in Argentina. For now, I only want to have a few cows, though my Gurudeva is still reticent to have then until we can be a productive and profitable organisation. It is clear that the cow equation has been fully worked and there are really no more efficiencies that can be put into it. The efficiencies and the bulk of the work which is needed to be done is in the ox and crops. Presently, I am working on a raised bed 'asecia' system, with channels filled with bamboo canes. This system is a permenant one, thus not much use for oxen, though they can be used to transport the harvest to the kitchen to clean and pack into boxes for the All Organic direct delivery to the city. But oxen were never really used for succulent vegetables, they are of use for grains and legumes in strip agriculture, maybe between nitrogen-fixing trees; this I have yet to do. So, with this conference I have learnt that the cow and its milk are not to be used as a business, per se, but as a secondary consequence to the need to produce oxen to produce grains. Thus, in my opinion, if this conference is to keep being of use, it must put all its force into the ox/crop equation. Yours in service, Gopananda dasa Haribol Prabhu, Phew! What a question. Here is an indication. There are a few things not included In the UK I have calculated that looking after a cow and buying in all the hay and straw and grain, Repairs and Renewels, Veterinary costs, some miscellaneous costs will be about 350 pounds sterling per year per cow/ox/calf. In addition to this you would have to add any building or land costs. The labour for milking cows is extra. We would pay 6 pounds sterling per hour for milking the cows. You should also add 10% for employers tax to the government making it 6.60 pounds sterling per hour. I expect that one milk person per day would be sufficient for a farm calving three a year and letting the lactations run for 3 years. The number of days to pay for would be 405 per year (7 working days per week plus holiday cover for the year). I also expect that milking up to 9 cows and attending to the herding, cleaning, milk carrying to the kitchens would take about 7 hours per day. For the sake of keeping these calculations simple I have not included any ox work calculations. Some additional things I would base my calculations on: a. Average daily lactation for a 3 year lactating cow would be 25 litres per day per calf. (11 per day first year, 8.5 per day second year, 5.5 per day third year) b. Average life of a cow is fifteen years (Loss at birth, accident and natural mortality) c. Cow eats 90 bales (25kg each) of hay per year d. Cow needs 50 bales (20kg each) of straw per year for bedding e. Three calves per year at average life for fifteen years means a mature herd of 45 Thus a mature herd would cost the following: (Maintenance cost) + (Milking cost) + (annual costs for land and capital purchases) = cost per year Maintenance cost = 45 (herd size) x 350 (cost per member in pounds sterling) Milking cost = 405 (paid days) x 7 (milking time etc per day) x 6.60 (cost per hour in pounds sterling) Annual land and capital costs - whew a big topic ??? Thus: 15750 (maint cost) + 18711 (milking cost) + Capital and land = 34461 (pounds sterling) + capital and land The milk per year will be something like this: 3 calves per year at 25 litres per calf per day milk production = Average daily milk yield is 75 litres. Thus annual milk yield could be 27375 litres Therefore th cost per litre is = (34461 + land/capital) / 27375 If we do not include land and capital the cost to cover production is 34461/25185 = 1.26 pounds sterling per litre. Exchange rate is currently 1.86 dollars to the pound 1 litre is 0.26 US Gallons Finally 2.34 dollars for 0.26 gallons = 9.0 dollars per US gallon Summary Without including land and capital then a gallon of US milk would have to be sold at around 9 dollars just to break even. Land and capital is vast and depends on whether you are starting with a current farm or are buying or renting from the start. Hope this is of some help ys syam ----------------------- To from this mailing list, send an email to: Cow-Owner (AT) pamho (DOT) net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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