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Dear Devotees,

 

Please accept my respectful obeisances. All glories to Srila

Prabhupada. All glories to Shri Shri Guru and Gauranga.

 

I just escaped from a marriage I was obliged to attend due to familly

obligations. Of course I appreciated the opportunity to represent guru

and Gauranga to so many people, but generally it is not advised for

renunciates to attend weddings. Chaitanya Mahaprabhu said for someone

who is endeavoring to cross the ocean of material existence to look at

the face of a women or a person addicted to the association of women

is more abominable than willingly drinking poison. Unfortunately these

situations although not favorable can still be of value to a devotee

of the Lord. Srila Prabhupada has said that we have to learn the art

of utilizing all situations, good and bad, to make spiritual

advancement. Just as a stockbroker can make money whether the stock

market is up or down. He knows when to buy and when to sell, and

therefore always makes a profit, the neophyte invester can only make

money when the market is up, and even then he may do something foolish

and lose money. In the same way an expert devotee can make adancement

in any situation, good or bad, his advancement is not dependent on the

ever changing superficialities of this world.

 

So as I sat at this wedding I took the opportunity to oberserve my

mind to see what thoughts were taking shape. And I was reminded of a

very very important lesson for anyone endeavoring to control the mind,

and subdue material attachment. We must be very careful not to fall

victim to aversion. We know that to desire sense gratification is bad,

but attachement often times manifests in the mind as aversion. make no

mistake about it, aversion is attachment, just in a different dress,

where there is attachment there is bound to be aversion, they are two

sides of the same coin, we are attached to sense gratification and

averse to things that impede or hamper our sense gratification.

 

So it is very important to keep a constant check on the mind to make

sure that we are not falling prey to attachement or aversion.

 

When in the association of people engaged in sense gratification there

is a tendency to feel some negativity towards them. Know for certain

that this is a clear sign that we are still attached to whatever they

are enjoying. And in this context we are speaking about association

withthe opposite sex. So we must be very careful in this regard. Often

times people actually cultivate negative emotions towards

materialistic people, this is very harmful and does nothing to help

one transcend attachment. We must understand that aversion is not

detachment. It is merely a false reflection with the external

trappings, but not containing the real substance. Plastic fruit may

look appetizing but it has no power to satiate ones appetite, and if

we try to eat if we will fall scik and suffer. HH Radhanath Swami once

said in a Brahmacari lecture, "Those who look at women as stool,

generally become like hogs very eager to eat as much stool as

possible."

 

The sankrit word vairagya, is most accurately translated as

dis-passion or non-attachment. The word detachment is a verb, it is an

action, to detach ooneself from something. In sanskrit this would be

tyaga, to give up something. But one can physically give up something

without developing the quality of true renunciation, which is based on

indifference, or a lack of attachment, vi-raga, the opposite of raga,

attachment or passion. This quality of indofference is refered to as

nirapeksa.

 

So we must be very vigilent that within in mind we are not directly

meditating on objects of sense gratification and cultivating

attachment for them, and we must also be very vigilent that we are not

indirectly meditating on objects of sense gratification and

cultivating aversion. So anytime we feel any negativity towards anyone

we must look to the cause and root out that attachement, otherwise by

allowing that negativity to remain we allow the attachment to remain,

and by cultivation negativity we strengthen that attachment.

 

To Be continued in Part II

In part II we will look at the solution to this dilema and how to

cultivated the proper attitide that will carry us through the

dualities of attachment and averison.

 

Your Aspiring Servant,

Gauranga Kishore Das

 

mahaprabhur bhakta gana vairagya pradhana

yaha dekhe priti hana gaura bhagavan

 

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in response to sripad Gauranga Kisore pr's most indelible email, i

would like to pose this question unto his grace:

 

Sri Yamunacarya, descriptions of whose glories were ever so delectably

showered upon us during last Decembers south indian yatra, is so often

quoted by Srila Prabhupada speaking words bearing more then an air of

aversion. Could you please shed some light on this apparent

contradiction for the pleasure and edification of the assembled

vaisnavas (or at least this pompous wannabe vaisnava) ?

 

your overintelligent and underenlightened servant,

caitanya das

 

 

On 9/23/06, gauranga kishore <gaurangakishore > wrote:

>

> Dear Devotees,

>

> Please accept my respectful obeisances. All glories to Srila

> Prabhupada. All glories to Shri Shri Guru and Gauranga.

>

> I just escaped from a marriage I was obliged to attend due to familly

> obligations. Of course I appreciated the opportunity to represent guru

> and Gauranga to so many people, but generally it is not advised for

> renunciates to attend weddings. Chaitanya Mahaprabhu said for someone

> who is endeavoring to cross the ocean of material existence to look at

> the face of a women or a person addicted to the association of women

> is more abominable than willingly drinking poison. Unfortunately these

> situations although not favorable can still be of value to a devotee

> of the Lord. Srila Prabhupada has said that we have to learn the art

> of utilizing all situations, good and bad, to make spiritual

> advancement. Just as a stockbroker can make money whether the stock

> market is up or down. He knows when to buy and when to sell, and

> therefore always makes a profit, the neophyte invester can only make

> money when the market is up, and even then he may do something foolish

> and lose money. In the same way an expert devotee can make adancement

> in any situation, good or bad, his advancement is not dependent on the

> ever changing superficialities of this world.

>

> So as I sat at this wedding I took the opportunity to oberserve my

> mind to see what thoughts were taking shape. And I was reminded of a

> very very important lesson for anyone endeavoring to control the mind,

> and subdue material attachment. We must be very careful not to fall

> victim to aversion. We know that to desire sense gratification is bad,

> but attachement often times manifests in the mind as aversion. make no

> mistake about it, aversion is attachment, just in a different dress,

> where there is attachment there is bound to be aversion, they are two

> sides of the same coin, we are attached to sense gratification and

> averse to things that impede or hamper our sense gratification.

>

> So it is very important to keep a constant check on the mind to make

> sure that we are not falling prey to attachement or aversion.

>

> When in the association of people engaged in sense gratification there

> is a tendency to feel some negativity towards them. Know for certain

> that this is a clear sign that we are still attached to whatever they

> are enjoying. And in this context we are speaking about association

> withthe opposite sex. So we must be very careful in this regard. Often

> times people actually cultivate negative emotions towards

> materialistic people, this is very harmful and does nothing to help

> one transcend attachment. We must understand that aversion is not

> detachment. It is merely a false reflection with the external

> trappings, but not containing the real substance. Plastic fruit may

> look appetizing but it has no power to satiate ones appetite, and if

> we try to eat if we will fall scik and suffer. HH Radhanath Swami once

> said in a Brahmacari lecture, "Those who look at women as stool,

> generally become like hogs very eager to eat as much stool as

> possible."

>

> The sankrit word vairagya, is most accurately translated as

> dis-passion or non-attachment. The word detachment is a verb, it is an

> action, to detach ooneself from something. In sanskrit this would be

> tyaga, to give up something. But one can physically give up something

> without developing the quality of true renunciation, which is based on

> indifference, or a lack of attachment, vi-raga, the opposite of raga,

> attachment or passion. This quality of indofference is refered to as

> nirapeksa.

>

> So we must be very vigilent that within in mind we are not directly

> meditating on objects of sense gratification and cultivating

> attachment for them, and we must also be very vigilent that we are not

> indirectly meditating on objects of sense gratification and

> cultivating aversion. So anytime we feel any negativity towards anyone

> we must look to the cause and root out that attachement, otherwise by

> allowing that negativity to remain we allow the attachment to remain,

> and by cultivation negativity we strengthen that attachment.

>

> To Be continued in Part II

> In part II we will look at the solution to this dilema and how to

> cultivated the proper attitide that will carry us through the

> dualities of attachment and averison.

>

> Your Aspiring Servant,

> Gauranga Kishore Das

>

> mahaprabhur bhakta gana vairagya pradhana

> yaha dekhe priti hana gaura bhagavan

>

> >

>

 

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>

> in response to sripad Gauranga Kisore pr's most indelible email, i

> would like to pose this question unto his grace:

>

> Sri Yamunacarya, descriptions of whose glories were ever so delectably

> showered upon us during last Decembers south indian yatra, is so often

> quoted by Srila Prabhupada speaking words bearing more then an air of

> aversion.

 

Sri Yamunacarya's disgust was based on mature realization of truth not

repression of actual attachment thus it is glorious.

 

The topic brings to mind a statement by Lord Caitanya to Srila Raghunatha

Goswami. “The mercy of Lord Krishna is stronger than anything else.

Therefore the Lord has delivered you from the ditch of materialistic life,

which is like a hole into which people pass stool.”

 

Best wishes.

 

Your servant,

Krishna-kripa dasa

 

 

> Could you please shed some light on this apparent

> contradiction for the pleasure and edification of the assembled

> vaisnavas (or at least this pompous wannabe vaisnava) ?

>

> your overintelligent and underenlightened servant,

> caitanya das

>

>

> On 9/23/06, gauranga kishore <gaurangakishore > wrote:

> >

> > Dear Devotees,

> >

> > Please accept my respectful obeisances. All glories to Srila

> > Prabhupada. All glories to Shri Shri Guru and Gauranga.

> >

> > I just escaped from a marriage I was obliged to attend due to familly

> > obligations. Of course I appreciated the opportunity to represent guru

> > and Gauranga to so many people, but generally it is not advised for

> > renunciates to attend weddings. Chaitanya Mahaprabhu said for someone

> > who is endeavoring to cross the ocean of material existence to look at

> > the face of a women or a person addicted to the association of women

> > is more abominable than willingly drinking poison. Unfortunately these

> > situations although not favorable can still be of value to a devotee

> > of the Lord. Srila Prabhupada has said that we have to learn the art

> > of utilizing all situations, good and bad, to make spiritual

> > advancement. Just as a stockbroker can make money whether the stock

> > market is up or down. He knows when to buy and when to sell, and

> > therefore always makes a profit, the neophyte invester can only make

> > money when the market is up, and even then he may do something foolish

> > and lose money. In the same way an expert devotee can make adancement

> > in any situation, good or bad, his advancement is not dependent on the

> > ever changing superficialities of this world.

> >

> > So as I sat at this wedding I took the opportunity to oberserve my

> > mind to see what thoughts were taking shape. And I was reminded of a

> > very very important lesson for anyone endeavoring to control the mind,

> > and subdue material attachment. We must be very careful not to fall

> > victim to aversion. We know that to desire sense gratification is bad,

> > but attachement often times manifests in the mind as aversion. make no

> > mistake about it, aversion is attachment, just in a different dress,

> > where there is attachment there is bound to be aversion, they are two

> > sides of the same coin, we are attached to sense gratification and

> > averse to things that impede or hamper our sense gratification.

> >

> > So it is very important to keep a constant check on the mind to make

> > sure that we are not falling prey to attachement or aversion.

> >

> > When in the association of people engaged in sense gratification there

> > is a tendency to feel some negativity towards them. Know for certain

> > that this is a clear sign that we are still attached to whatever they

> > are enjoying. And in this context we are speaking about association

> > withthe opposite sex. So we must be very careful in this regard. Often

> > times people actually cultivate negative emotions towards

> > materialistic people, this is very harmful and does nothing to help

> > one transcend attachment. We must understand that aversion is not

> > detachment. It is merely a false reflection with the external

> > trappings, but not containing the real substance. Plastic fruit may

> > look appetizing but it has no power to satiate ones appetite, and if

> > we try to eat if we will fall scik and suffer. HH Radhanath Swami once

> > said in a Brahmacari lecture, "Those who look at women as stool,

> > generally become like hogs very eager to eat as much stool as

> > possible."

> >

> > The sankrit word vairagya, is most accurately translated as

> > dis-passion or non-attachment. The word detachment is a verb, it is an

> > action, to detach ooneself from something. In sanskrit this would be

> > tyaga, to give up something. But one can physically give up something

> > without developing the quality of true renunciation, which is based on

> > indifference, or a lack of attachment, vi-raga, the opposite of raga,

> > attachment or passion. This quality of indofference is refered to as

> > nirapeksa.

> >

> > So we must be very vigilent that within in mind we are not directly

> > meditating on objects of sense gratification and cultivating

> > attachment for them, and we must also be very vigilent that we are not

> > indirectly meditating on objects of sense gratification and

> > cultivating aversion. So anytime we feel any negativity towards anyone

> > we must look to the cause and root out that attachement, otherwise by

> > allowing that negativity to remain we allow the attachment to remain,

> > and by cultivation negativity we strengthen that attachment.

> >

> > To Be continued in Part II

> > In part II we will look at the solution to this dilema and how to

> > cultivated the proper attitide that will carry us through the

> > dualities of attachment and averison.

> >

> > Your Aspiring Servant,

> > Gauranga Kishore Das

> >

> > mahaprabhur bhakta gana vairagya pradhana

> > yaha dekhe priti hana gaura bhagavan

> >

> > >

> >

>

> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~

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> "brahmacarisanga" group.

> To post to this group, send email to brahmacarisanga (AT) googl (DOT) com

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