Guest guest Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 >-----Opprinnelig melding----- >Fra: [] På vegne av Era Molnar >Sendt: 26. september 2006 07:10 >Til: >Emne: nothing but being.. > > >A visitor: "The Supreme Spirit is Real. The world is illusion," is the stock phrase of Sri >>Sankaracharya. Yet others say, "The world is reality." Which is true? This is something a friend of me and I used to make philosophical jokes about. Later reading Sankara I understood the world to be 'like a dream'. And confirming this is meditating, and the world is gone. But it should not take more than ( a change of ) identification while simultaneously looking upon the world to make me understand different. Then questioning my teacher about Sankaras statement, she said "The world is real, listen" She knocked on the table. And I can not forget that sound. Alan ~~~~~~ Question: So the world is real when it is experienced as the Self and unreal when it is seen as separate names and forms? Sri Ramana Maharshi: Just as fire is obscured by smoke, the shining light of consciousness is obscured by the assemblage of names and forms, the world. When by compassionate divine grace the mind becomes clear, the nature of the world will be known to be not the illusory forms but only the reality. Only those people whose minds are devoid of the evil power of Maya, having given up the knowledge of the world and being unattached to it, and having thereby attained the knowledge of the self-shining Supreme Reality, can correctly know the meaning of the statement "The world is real." If one's outlook has been transformed to the nature of real knowledge, the world of the five elements beginning with space (akasha) will be real, being the Supreme Reality, which is the nature of knowledge. The original state of this empty world, which is bewildering and crowded with many names and forms, is bliss, which is one, just as the egg-yolk of a multi-coloured peacock is only one. Know this truth by abiding in the state of Self. ~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 the world is as real as you are. yosy (for real) , "Alan" <alan wrote: > > > >-----Opprinnelig melding----- > >Fra: [] > På vegne av Era Molnar > >Sendt: 26. september 2006 07:10 > >Til: > >Emne: nothing but being.. > > > > > >A visitor: "The Supreme Spirit is Real. The world is illusion," is the > stock phrase of Sri >>Sankaracharya. Yet others say, "The world is reality." > Which is true? > > > > This is something a friend of me and I used to make philosophical jokes > about. > > Later reading Sankara I understood the world to be 'like a dream'. > And confirming this is meditating, and the world is gone. > But it should not take more than ( a change of ) identification while > simultaneously looking upon the world to make me understand different. > > Then questioning my teacher about Sankaras statement, she said "The world is > real, listen" > She knocked on the table. > And I can not forget that sound. > > > Alan > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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