Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Om Shri Matre Namaha Namaste to you all friends, Today, Im posting this message coz at certain points, I feel lost and deceived by some people words. Well, I have some few questions and hope that if there is anyone or any guru who can guide me, i wud be very thankful to him or her. In my Puja room, I have some devis and devtas pictures as well as murtis - I do even have 2 pictures of Maa Kali in my Puja ghar - but it happened recently, that a lady who is quite advance in the spiritual way, came to my house and saw my Puja room and then she said us to remove the Kali maa from the room as she is not supposed to be prayed in one's house! And as we used to have her for quite long in our puja room, we dont know what to do!! Please, can anyone tell me if keeping Kali Maa in our house will cause problems in our house or we should put her apart and puja Her outside the house?? Im not ready to accept that because since child i know that Durga and Kali are ONE! And as im a great devotee of Maa Tripurasundari, though i may be new to all things concerning her worship, but at least I can felt wat is right and wrong, yet i think that she may opposed to that also.. If im wrong, im ready to learn the proper correct path - that's why im asking if there is any Guru in the group who can guide me a little?? Jai Sri Matre Parishant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 , "Parishant" <paribus81 wrote: > > Om Shri Matre Namaha > > Namaste to you all friends, > > Today, Im posting this message coz at certain points, I feel lost > and deceived by some people words. Perhaps deceived is not the right word. Lets just say that they have a different opinion from you. Look at our fingers, they are never the same. It takes a lot of different people to make this world. Instead of just rejecting and say "you're wrong!" its good to ask around. To seek clarification and understanding. As the proverbs here says : if you're shy to ask, you will continue to feel lost. > Well, I have some few questions and hope that if there is anyone or any guru who can guide me, i wud be very thankful to him or her. In my Puja room, I have some devis and devtas pictures as well as murtis - I do even have 2 pictures of Maa Kali in my Puja ghar - but it happened recently, that a lady who is quite advance in the spiritual way, came to my house and saw my Puja room and then she said us to remove the Kali maa from the room as she is not supposed to be prayed in one's house! And as we used to have her for quite long in our puja room, we dont know what to do!! Please, can anyone tell me if keeping Kali Maa in our house will cause problems in our house or we should put her apart and puja Her outside the house?? My father in law is a caretaker of a kali shrine. When he's being informed to remove all the idols/images in the shrine, because the authorities wants to develop the place, he places the Kali in his puja room. So far I never see any problems. They are simple minded folk, who've lived their lives in a very simple way. As Im being told, our puja room is the representation of our family and our devotion. What happen to the image/idol in the puja will indirectly affect us. You mentioned "this lady is quite advance spiritually?" What does that mean? There's a lot of people who like to believe or like to show that they are advance. But atlas! who am I to say this. Yes! indeed good to ask around and seek clarification, but be prepared that this will lead you to further confusion. Different people will give you different interpretation. You say also that you have been having the Kali image in ure puja room for a long time. Do you have any problem? So if there is no problem then why should it be a problem now? Will this "advance lady" remarked change all those? > Im not ready to accept that because since child I know that Durga > and Kali are ONE! And why should you accept something that is not agreeable to you? Im being told the same thing too. > If im wrong, im ready to learn the proper correct path What do we understand as the proper correct path? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 JAI MAA BHAGWATI DURGE SHRI KALI IS EVERYTHING & EVERYWHERE KSHAMA MAA KALI I AM NO ONE AT ALL TO WRITE BOUT YOU DEAR FRIEND KALI MAA IS FORM OF SHAKTI WHO'S EVRYWHERE IN THIS UNIVERSE , MOST POWER FULL FORM OF MAA ADYA SHAKTI . ONE WHO HAS NEGATIVITIES HAVE FEAR IN LOOKING AT MAA KALI I WOULD SUGGEST YOU TO NOT REMOVE MAA KALI FROM YOUR PUJA GHAR Parishant <paribus81 > wrote: Om Shri Matre Namaha Namaste to you all friends, Today, Im posting this message coz at certain points, I feel lost and deceived by some people words. Well, I have some few questions and hope that if there is anyone or any guru who can guide me, i wud be very thankful to him or her. In my Puja room, I have some devis and devtas pictures as well as murtis - I do even have 2 pictures of Maa Kali in my Puja ghar - but it happened recently, that a lady who is quite advance in the spiritual way, came to my house and saw my Puja room and then she said us to remove the Kali maa from the room as she is not supposed to be prayed in one's house! And as we used to have her for quite long in our puja room, we dont know what to do!! Please, can anyone tell me if keeping Kali Maa in our house will cause problems in our house or we should put her apart and puja Her outside the house?? Im not ready to accept that because since child i know that Durga and Kali are ONE! And as im a great devotee of Maa Tripurasundari, though i may be new to all things concerning her worship, but at least I can felt wat is right and wrong, yet i think that she may opposed to that also.. If im wrong, im ready to learn the proper correct path - that's why im asking if there is any Guru in the group who can guide me a little?? Jai Sri Matre Parishant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Goddess Kali is essentially prevedic, but most people address her as one of the principle maha vidyas. Infact she is one of the three most important maha vidyas and is the foundation of one of the most profound schools of shakta tantra, that is, kaulachara. Kali as shakti has many different aspects, most of which are addressed in the mahA kAla samhita as the principle 10/13 kalis. In meru tantra it says that the Shri yantra construct with the 9 or 5 [depending on perspective] downward facing triangles is the symbol/very anatomy of kurukulla, who happens to be the fourth nitya of goddess Kali. Essentially this suggests that the nature of Kali is central to understanding kamakala. She is most commonly associated with siddhis, and also occult. This is one reason people omit her worship. She is also considered to be the krityA devI, in the particular context of Nirriti. This is a modern day interpretation and is not really backed by any authentic doctrine. Basically she is what you make of her. Like fire can protect, burn and also preserve. These are terms we ascribe to fire, the nature of fire itself is always the same in all these contexts. The same can be said about shakti, how you address shakti and the type of bhava as well as the amount of knowledge you have will affect your response from her. Essentially this means that she can be the most destructive force towards you, a device tool for self realization, or even the very culmination of your spiritual aspiration. It is however best to see her as Devi, as the emanation of the Shakti of Shiva, and therefore the divine mother. Ramakrishna worshipped her, Yogananda, Vivekananda, She was also the kula devI of Lord Krishna (as bhadra kAli) and invoked by Arjuna in devi stuti which is in mahabharata prior to the gitA anuvaka. You cannot accomplish the worship with saptashati without doing her worship.. You cannot accomplish shodashAkshari without worshipping the ugra form. In bhairava tantra it says that he who worships the daxina kAli gets the effect of doing worship of the pancha great devatas. The prologue of the kali 100k stotra suggests that the first devI that was invoked through the shrI yantra was Kali. Her nature is also within the kamakala. On 7 Break a world record with Total Girl's World’s Largest Slumber Party Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 > > > If im wrong, im ready to learn the proper correct path > > What do we understand as the proper correct path? > Namaste Well, by that phrase "If im wrong, im ready to learn the proper correct path ", i mean that im mostly willing to get initiated by a Guru and learn all things anew! All that i'm doing now, are either from my own way (that i feel is good) or guided through texts, books or from close persons who taught me some little pujas... Its true that I have not been a Maa Bhakt earlier ... as i was a Sai Baba devotee, i was mostly in around all things / pujas related to him only... But now, as i did realise things by MAA's grace, im more willing to learn now - though basic things but with a FIRM foundation in order not to be fall down again and hurt myself... I'm sure and know that Maa is here and thats why when i did get hurt and fell zat time, i know i fell in her laps..! Thats why today i can say aloud that I LOVE MY TRIPURASUNDARI MAA and that She is my whole world.. Love, Parishant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Namaste Parishant, in my opinion one should look to the Guru, as a Guide rather then the tool for ones spiritual journy! someones spiritual journy is always a personal one! and just becuase a guru or someone else had a bad experience with a spiritual practice or deity! doesnt mean that should apply to everyone or even one other person! listen to your ownself and rely on the various deitys to guide you in the directions and on to the paths you are ready for! use the guru or guru's to find the door and the Deitys to open it! and they will if you are ready! I think its important to worship Ganesh first and prior to worshiping any other deity and really open yourself up to him and listen to your heart and your inner self, rely on ganesh to lovingly guide u through the proper doors and on to the proper paths! if he hasnt opened the door to a paticular deity then you must not be ready! and if you procede to worship with out his grace then you are just worshiping an image! and it will bare no fruit! you should ask yourself why you left your previous path! and what brought you to the path you seek today. was it personal desire for somethig? or the guidance of the deitys and the longing for change within? also ask yourself how do you feel about Kali ma and who is she to you!? how were you introduced to her? what do you see when you look at her image? what do you think about when you think of her? if you ask your self these questions and open yourself up to ganesh the asnwers will come sometimes very quick! Never depend on your guru or gurus for the answers you seek in this way they become your cruch much like a catholic priest a mormon bishop or a minister! use and depend on the gods and goddesses thats what they are there for! but rely on yourself as well! Good luck in your spiritual journy! I hope this helps. Aum Shanti Ardan , "Parishant" <paribus81 wrote: > > Om Shri Matre Namaha > > Namaste to you all friends, > > Today, Im posting this message coz at certain points, I feel lost > and deceived by some people words. > > Well, I have some few questions and hope that if there is anyone or > any guru who can guide me, i wud be very thankful to him or her. > > In my Puja room, I have some devis and devtas pictures as well as > murtis - I do even have 2 pictures of Maa Kali in my Puja ghar - but > it happened recently, that a lady who is quite advance in the > spiritual way, came to my house and saw my Puja room and then she > said us to remove the Kali maa from the room as she is not supposed > to be prayed in one's house! And as we used to have her for quite > long in our puja room, we dont know what to do!! Please, can anyone > tell me if keeping Kali Maa in our house will cause problems in our > house or we should put her apart and puja Her outside the house?? > > Im not ready to accept that because since child i know that Durga > and Kali are ONE! > > And as im a great devotee of Maa Tripurasundari, though i may be new > to all things concerning her worship, but at least I can felt wat is > right and wrong, yet i think that she may opposed to that also.. > > If im wrong, im ready to learn the proper correct path - that's why > im asking if there is any Guru in the group who can guide me a > little?? > > Jai Sri Matre > Parishant > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Pranam, Parishantji. We, too have an icon of Kali Ma and I have been praying to Her since I was a child. My earliest memory of Kali ma is a feeling of maternal love and absolute security. I am not sure why the lady said that but as per my experience, there is absolutely nothing wrong with having an icon of Kali ma in the house. Perhaps, you have an ugra form of Ma? We worship Dakshina Kali so maybe that has something to do with her statement. With Love Shankree Parishant <paribus81 > wrote: Om Shri Matre Namaha Namaste to you all friends, Today, Im posting this message coz at certain points, I feel lost and deceived by some people words. Well, I have some few questions and hope that if there is anyone or any guru who can guide me, i wud be very thankful to him or her. In my Puja room, I have some devis and devtas pictures as well as murtis - I do even have 2 pictures of Maa Kali in my Puja ghar - but it happened recently, that a lady who is quite advance in the spiritual way, came to my house and saw my Puja room and then she said us to remove the Kali maa from the room as she is not supposed to be prayed in one's house! And as we used to have her for quite long in our puja room, we dont know what to do!! Please, can anyone tell me if keeping Kali Maa in our house will cause problems in our house or we should put her apart and puja Her outside the house?? Im not ready to accept that because since child i know that Durga and Kali are ONE! And as im a great devotee of Maa Tripurasundari, though i may be new to all things concerning her worship, but at least I can felt wat is right and wrong, yet i think that she may opposed to that also.. If im wrong, im ready to learn the proper correct path - that's why im asking if there is any Guru in the group who can guide me a little?? Jai Sri Matre Parishant Let my every word be a prayer to Thee, Every movement of my hands a ritual gesture to Thee, Every step I take a circumambulation of Thy image, Every morsel I eat a rite of sacrifice to Thee, Every time I lay down a prostration at Thy feet; Every act of personal pleasure and all else that I do, Let it all be a form of worshiping Thee." >From Verse 27 of Shri Aadi Shankara's Saundaryalahari Try the all-new Mail . "The New Version is radically easier to use" – The Wall Street Journal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Parishant Ji, As far as i know, it is customary in Bihar, Bengal, & various other places, to have the Ugram form of Kali Maa in an adjoining "outside the house" type puja room which is not directly part of the house. In my humble opinion, i think that is what she meant. According to a reliable source, keeping these murthys and pictures in the "main" living compund is an absolute no-no, especially if the sword is in the right hand. Because, see, technically, if one is doing the worship of that type of form, the strict form of worship enjoined is the sacrificing of animals, partaking of wine, and such. So for whatever reason, that type of worship is not considered suitable for an "in-house" puja room with childern and family members running about. I humbly, feel that those types of ugram forms are geared more towards renunciants, and advanced shakta ascetics following the left hand path. Although i don't worship Kali Ma, when having a puja room, the limitations have to be considered. With mine being in my basement ground floor, in a separate 9x10 room under lock and key, it is in essence out of the way of everyday living. Most Vaishnavas take this precaution with various types of ugram salagram sila murthys (most notably Narasimha Salagram Silas), being VERY CAREFUL not to bring those in the home who are not compatible with family life & who could do harm. JANARDANA DASA Shankaree Ramatas <shankaree > wrote: Pranam, Parishantji. We, too have an icon of Kali Ma and I have been praying to Her since I was a child. My earliest memory of Kali ma is a feeling of maternal love and absolute security. I am not sure why the lady said that but as per my experience, there is absolutely nothing wrong with having an icon of Kali ma in the house. Perhaps, you have an ugra form of Ma? We worship Dakshina Kali so maybe that has something to do with her statement. With Love Shankree Parishant <paribus81 > wrote: Om Shri Matre Namaha Namaste to you all friends, Today, Im posting this message coz at certain points, I feel lost and deceived by some people words. Well, I have some few questions and hope that if there is anyone or any guru who can guide me, i wud be very thankful to him or her. In my Puja room, I have some devis and devtas pictures as well as murtis - I do even have 2 pictures of Maa Kali in my Puja ghar - but it happened recently, that a lady who is quite advance in the spiritual way, came to my house and saw my Puja room and then she said us to remove the Kali maa from the room as she is not supposed to be prayed in one's house! And as we used to have her for quite long in our puja room, we dont know what to do!! Please, can anyone tell me if keeping Kali Maa in our house will cause problems in our house or we should put her apart and puja Her outside the house?? Im not ready to accept that because since child i know that Durga and Kali are ONE! And as im a great devotee of Maa Tripurasundari, though i may be new to all things concerning her worship, but at least I can felt wat is right and wrong, yet i think that she may opposed to that also.. If im wrong, im ready to learn the proper correct path - that's why im asking if there is any Guru in the group who can guide me a little?? Jai Sri Matre Parishant Let my every word be a prayer to Thee, Every movement of my hands a ritual gesture to Thee, Every step I take a circumambulation of Thy image, Every morsel I eat a rite of sacrifice to Thee, Every time I lay down a prostration at Thy feet; Every act of personal pleasure and all else that I do, Let it all be a form of worshiping Thee." >From Verse 27 of Shri Aadi Shankara's Saundaryalahari Try the all-new Mail . "The New Version is radically easier to use" – The Wall Street Journal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 I have many Kali pics in my home and Aasan, together with a Kali Murti and Yantra. Done me only good, and will continue to do so. Parishant <paribus81 > Thursday, September 28, 2006 11:25:01 AM Kali Maa! Om Shri Matre Namaha Namaste to you all friends, Today, Im posting this message coz at certain points, I feel lost and deceived by some people words. Well, I have some few questions and hope that if there is anyone or any guru who can guide me, i wud be very thankful to him or her. In my Puja room, I have some devis and devtas pictures as well as murtis - I do even have 2 pictures of Maa Kali in my Puja ghar - but it happened recently, that a lady who is quite advance in the spiritual way, came to my house and saw my Puja room and then she said us to remove the Kali maa from the room as she is not supposed to be prayed in one's house! And as we used to have her for quite long in our puja room, we dont know what to do!! Please, can anyone tell me if keeping Kali Maa in our house will cause problems in our house or we should put her apart and puja Her outside the house?? Im not ready to accept that because since child i know that Durga and Kali are ONE! And as im a great devotee of Maa Tripurasundari, though i may be new to all things concerning her worship, but at least I can felt wat is right and wrong, yet i think that she may opposed to that also.. If im wrong, im ready to learn the proper correct path - that's why im asking if there is any Guru in the group who can guide me a little?? Jai Sri Matre Parishant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 Nora the Pragmatic ! Here ! Here ! I agree 100 %. NMadasamy <nmadasamy (AT) nmadasamy (DOT) com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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