Foodgrade Silver & Gold & contaminated sugar

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>

> It would be interesting to know how many of the hundreds of ISKCON temples

> worldwide are offering meat contaminated sugar and/or food to their

> Deities!! Does this issue even concern the Deity Ministry?

 

And it is not a coincidence that we have problems across the board

in ISKCON because many of the Deities in our temples are not being

worshipped to the proper standard. If we are neglectful of Krsna, that

neglect comes back on us.

 

Your humble servant,

Hari-sauri dasa

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In a message dated 10/5/2006 11:33:27 PM Pacific Standard Time,

Hari.Sauri.ACBSP (AT) pamho (DOT) net writes:

 

 

And it is not a coincidence that we have problems across the board

in ISKCON because many of the Deities in our temples are not being

worshipped to the proper standard. If we are neglectful of Krsna, that

neglect comes back on us.

 

Your humble servant,

Hari-sauri dasa

I have one big concern regarding fasting , there is on local temple here that

serves grain prasadam on all major days like Janmastami , Gaura purnima,

Narasimha Caturdasi etc .I have humbly pointed out the standard Srila

Prabhupada

had for such days :ekadasi prasad ,as from what I have read and heard.Is their

 

any justification in serving grain prasadam? Should the GBC not make this a

law so those who choose to do as they please may be corected to the proper

standard? The local TP refuses to understand this,.

Hari Sauri Prabhu did Srila Prabhupada not clerly give instructions that

everyone should be served ekadasi prasadam, including guests?

You servant

Payonidhi das

[Guest guest]

I have one big concern regarding fasting, there is on local temple here that

serves grain prasadam on all major days like Janmastami , Gaura purnima,

Narasimha Caturdasi etc. I have humbly pointed out the standard Srila

Prabhupada

had for such days:ekadasi prasad , as from what I have read and heard. Is

their

any justification in serving grain prasadam? Should the GBC not make this a

law so those who choose to do as they please may be corrected to the proper

standard? The local TP refuses to understand this,.

Hari Sauri Prabhu did Srila Prabhupada not clearly give instructions that

everyone should be served ekadasi prasadam, including guests? I am bothered by

this deviation, and am considering bringing to GBC attention before I do I just

 

want the learned opinion of many senior devotees in this matter, I am asking

for any instructions where Srila Prabhupada sanctioned this, I have heard from

Tamal Krsna Maharaja also how Srila Prabhupada instructed all temples should

be served ekadasi prasadam on these days including guests, this is the

standard is followed also in all Gaudiya math temples, and appears to have been

the

tradition of Gaudiya vaisnavas, a standard also established by Srila

Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Prabhupada.Actually I like the opinion of all senior

devotees

on this matter.

You servant

Payonidhi das

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> Hari Sauri Prabhu did Srila Prabhupada not clearly give instructions that

> everyone should be served ekadasi prasadam, including guests?

 

Not that I know of. In the early and mid-70s it was very common for

almost all temples to serve grains to break Janmastami, Gaura Purnima and

other fasts. when I was with Srila Prabhupada we did both standards and

Srila Prabhupada didn't comment.

 

Your humble servant,

Hari-sauri dasa

[Guest guest]

> > Hari Sauri Prabhu did Srila Prabhupada not clearly give instructions

> > that

> > everyone should be served ekadasi prasadam, including guests?

>

> Not that I know of. In the early and mid-70s it was very common for

> almost all temples to serve grains to break Janmastami, Gaura Purnima and

> other fasts. when I was with Srila Prabhupada we did both standards and

> Srila Prabhupada didn't comment.

>

> Your humble servant,

> Hari-sauri dasa

 

Im not in my UK office right now to get the exact reference, but Srila

Prabhupada instructed in some later letters that on some of the major

appearance days, Lord Rama's for example, the break fast is with non-grain.

 

If anyone has a Srila Prabhupada Siksamrita the exact quotes are in the

Deity Worship section under Festival Observances. Please post here if you

will. Oh, I just saw that Payonidhi Prabhu has posted them.

 

Aside from that, Hari Bhakti Vilasa is a book that Srila Prabhupada wanted

translated and that is being done now by H.G. Bhumipati Prabhu. In that book

the exact rules for breaking fast on all the Vaisnava days are clearly

listed. It is very extensive, but one example is Janmasthami, our most

important festival day. HBV states that the Janmasthami midnight break fast

MUST be non-grain and only after the end of the astami tithi. In a

conversation to Narada Muni Yamaraja clearly indicates the heavy reaction

for not observing this very important fast properly, particularly if one

takes grains at midnight instead of the next day after the sunrise. If you

read Yamaraja's statements your hairs will stand on end with fright.

Yamaraja is one of our Mahajanas. Well this is a big topic, but also very

important. There are specific rules for fasting and break fasting and when

observed properly they endear us very much to Krishna as stated by Sanatan

Goswami.

 

Srila Prabhupada gave us the foundation, he stated that, and so he wanted us

to build on that foundation, to increase our standards as much as possible.

Im aware of most of the important fasting and break fast rules, but what we

need for our Society is an authentic compilation of the minimum standard for

fasting and break fast so that devotees can make an informed choice as to

how they would like to please Lord Sri Krishna with that particular vrata.

 

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