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> > > In the USA it is forbidden to lock ones checked luggage so that the

> > > so-called TSA checkers (Transport Security Authority) checkers can

> > > check ones bags. That means they will be unlocked when they arrive in

> > > the destination country. How is it possible to avoid this sort of

> > > theft? your servant

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> >

> > > Haridasa vesyadasa

> >

> > who is this person "Haridasa vesyadasa"? Who has given him this name?

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> Lots of strange names are always given at initiations.

 

Better investigate this person. I don't think anyone can give such name .

Vesya means prostitute. vesyadas means servant of a prostitute. Pls find out

information about this r.>>

 

 

 

 

Dear Shyamakrishna prabhu,

Please accept my humble obeisances again and again. All glories to Srila

Prabhupada.

 

When I first read your email about this person 'Haridasa vesya dasa', I

thought your comments were Draconian, McCarthy-esque, of absolutely no

significance, an unnecesssary harassment born out of the institutionalized

ignorance which has permeated Iskcon since Srila Prabhupada's physical

demise, an unscrupulous & unwarranted intrusion & attempt at trampling upon

another living entity's spiritual, civil and human rights and a total waste

of your own valuable time in this human form of life.

 

But the less I thought about it, the more I realized that you are absolutely

right. Something definitely needs to be done about persons like this

'Haridasa vesya dasa' who think that they can wander around Iskcon,

shamelessly entertaining names which respectable and upright persons like

you and I totally disapprove of and masquerading on Pamho as some sort of

"checked luggage" authorities. In fact, now that I think of it, the idea of

investigating this rascal should probably be brought to the attention of the

GBC. If you will propose this as an item on the upcoming GBC agenda, I will

certainly second it.

 

And especially since he has dared to provide the Iskcon community with

advice about "checked luggage". The nerve of some people! Just who does he

think he is?! If anyone wants information about "checked luggage" they

should approach their temple authorities or the local GBC. This should be

Iskcon Law. Doesn't anyone else know this??

 

It did occur to me however that you chose to focus on only the last half of

his name and not on the first half. I would have understood his name to mean

that this person was supposed to be the servant of that prostitute who

became the most famous disciple of Srila Namacarya Srila Haridasa Thakura

prabhu by surrendering to the Namacarya and spending her time chanting Sri

Harinama continuously in front of Srimati Vrndadevi. I would also have

thought that since his name ended in 'dasa' and the first word 'Hari' was

included there, then he had probably undergone the 5 formal sacraments of

the process of initiation, and that the word 'dasa' affixed to the end of

his name, indicated him to actually have recognized his position as being

the eternal servant of Krsna.

 

But as I say, the less I thought about your proposal of investigation, the

more I became convinced you were right. My doubts about your email probably

arose because I was spending too much time reading and chanting, and not

enough time seeking out the faults in others. That's my mistake and I'll try

to correct it. The less we think and the more we just blindly follow, the

easier it will be to accept anything we are told. Isn't that right?

 

We should investigate this, just as we investigated all the other problems

in Iskcon; like the gurus who married their disciples or other devotees

wives; or the gurus who ran off with hundreds of thousands of dollars of

sankirtana blood-money; or those who fall down due to 'excessive preaching

of the holy name' just like 'you-know-who' did; or why so many senior Iskcon

leaders fell prey to that 'Maharaja' who calls himself Prabhupada's 'only

real successor' yet has belittled Srila Prabhupada in so many ways; or the

fact that the GBC has allowed or introduced so many mundane pursuits to

infiltrate Iskcon such as Transformational Life Seminars, Mediation

Seminars, etc; or why these days any devotee who wants to serve Krsna in any

capacity in any temple must have "Recommendations and References" from 2 or

3 of their Temple authorities and/or GBC's (at least the ones who have not

blooped yet) contrary to Srila Prabhupada's example and teachings; or why

THEY thought there was a need to write an Iskcon Law Book which contains

dozens of inventions not found in any of Srila Prabhupada's teachings; or

why invitations to the Mayapura Srila Prabhupada reunion in 2005 extended

only to "All those devotees, who are followers of Srila Prabhupada AND LOYAL

TO ISKCON AND ITS HIGHEST AUTHORITY GBC BODY... " [letter from a Mayapura

Swami 2005]; or the fact that a GBC Chairman compared the GBC to be Kings

like Bhagavana Lord Sri Ramacandra and who would deign to address their

citizens concerns, in his Pamho email of Jan 12, 2005; or why there is now

the necessity of a "Spiritual Strategic Planning Team" ; or the constantly

changing "guru-by-GBC-appointment" systems of Iskcon; or why Oprah

Winfrey's website is considered by some Iskcon persons to have relevance to

and advice for Iskcon's spiritual problems; or why THEY have invented the "

Iskcon Oath of Allegiance"; or why there are persons masquerading as

formally initiated devotees who think it's THEIR business to investigate

other persons, or why kanistha-gurus initiate unqualified persons who do not

even have the prerequisite humility and surrender, and so on and so on.

 

Well okay..., perhaps there has been no real investigation about why these

things have transpired. But I'M sure the GBC had good reasons to explain

things the way they did. It's obviously Krsna's mercy. Everybody in Iskcon

knows what a blasphemy it is to say ANYTHING negative at all about the GBC.

 

[Please do not even say that I mentioned the word GBC in our correspondence.

I wouldn't want THEM to think that I was a blasphemer or a GBC apostate or

even worse; a critic! I fully believe and accept everything that I hear from

the GBC and my temple president and I would never even think of disagreeing

with all their opinions or resolutions; especially when it comes to kicking

somebody out. The more we kick out people because of their having different

opinions or scriptural understandings to the GBC, the better place Iskcon

will become. Right? After all, as someone told me recently, (I dont know

who, but it sounded VERY authoritative) "The GBC is Srila Prabhupada's

body". Although I don't have any idea what this is supposed to mean and it

sounds like a manipulative tactic meant to convince those with a poor fund

of knowledge to surrender unto them without thinking, I fully agree with it

because it sounds so good! And I heard it in Bhagavatam class; so it MUST be

true. I must admit I have to continualy remind myself, "Stop Thinking! Stop

Thinking! Stop Thinking and just accept what you are told without question,

you nonsense!" It's SO true what they say about the mind, isn't it prabhu!?

]

 

Anyway these examples above are all trivial and banal (and I heard that they

probably didn't even happen!) compared to this nonsense 'Haridasa vesya

dasa'. Wouldn't you agree? Something really needs to be done to put a stop

to the idea that devotees have a right to use names that we don't approve

of. My God, the next thing you know is that we'll be having devotees going

off to foreign lands and starting their own preaching centers on behalf of

Srila Prabhupada and preaching without GBC authority! What is Iskcon coming

to???!!!

 

I just wanted to express my support for your investigative proposal and

congratulate you on your attention to these matters which if left unlocked

(like that damn luggage!) could create havoc in Iskcon. Obviously you have

been studying sastra and absorbing yourself in it's essence and meaning and

are therefore a fit person to evaluate this dangerous condition which

threatens the very life of our movement.

 

You know what? I recently spoke with the very person we are talking about

(Haridasa vesyadasa) and he openly admitted to me that he considered himself

to BE a prostitute AND a prostitute-hunter, having come to this world for

reasons none other than to enjoy his indriya-priti! What more proof do we

need??? Let us go forward now, armed with this sword of knowledge and cut

off the heads (not literally of course) of such offenders as this 'Haridasa

vesyadasa'. The world will become a better place and we will have done our

sworn duty and thus achieve that place with all those virgins. Oh yes, by

the way, I heard that there are less virgins to go around now because so

many of our ilk have been going there recently. Anyway that's just Krsna's

mercy too. Right?

 

Good luck with your quest prabhu! I hope this meets you in the best of

health and absorbed in your mood of sadhana bhakti.

 

your humble servant,

Krsnavesa dasi

 

Ps. I have a friend here who works for the National Association of Zealous

Informants (wow, that's a great acronym!) and he says they are seeking

candidates who have qualifications such as the ones you exhibit. So if you

ever need another source of income other than being a staunch follower of

your temple authorities, I would put in a good word for you. Bully for you

prabhu! Bully for you!