Guest guest Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 I think its the right time to share a confidential communication i sent to Hrishikeshji thru my gmail account. Though i can never share the reply he sent me. I think Sir, its high time we shared this mail. The most important part of this mail is in bold. Best Wishes. Feb 27, 2006 11:21 PM Dear Richard Sir, I saw your posting on the sacred objects forum as to why shall anyone sell a Genuine Round One Mukhi Rudraksha. The Key to the reply is whether the person concerned is a "Devotee" or a "Trader". Let me share an personal experience. I know a leading family of Haridwar who are dealing in spiritual artifacts since the 19th century. They charge a premium for their products but their integrity is unquestionable. Around an year ago, I received a call from the proprietor, asking me to immediately reach Haridwar, as he had found something of immense, "value." So off, I went to add another chapter to my Rudraksha Quest. I found his "haveli" was under renovation. One of his sons ushered me to a room & their i was shown a rudraksha which was definitely a real gol dana eka mukhi. I was Zapped for a while & felt elated that he had accorded me this opportunity to have a darshana of this rare bead. Then he said something which surprised me no end. He said that he intends to sell this bead to me & quoted a sum equivalent to a fine jyotish quality, 3 carat emerald from the Panjshir valley. Affordability was not the criteria.I asked it how come the bead reached his hands in the first place. Then began a story which in the sacred artifact world is termed as adding folklore. But without a doubt his folklore was credible. The house being under renovation, he chanced upon a sack tucked into the most unnoticeable corner of a room used by his grandfather. He categorically told me that he had called me immediately while the house was still under renovation so that i should not feel that he intends to lie to me. He also emphatically added that i was being given a chance as i was a very close friend of his son. I profusely thanked him for giving me this seemingly "immense stature". I told him; "Uncle I think your legendary grandfather might have kept it like that for a purpose & emphatically told him not to sell it to me or to anyone else for that matter. I feel that it might be because of this rarest of rare artifact that you are on such a high pedestal in this trade." He gave me an expression as if to say, to hell with that grandfather, are you interested?? After a stoic silence he said & i quote him verbatim, " Look Son, I am a "trader" not a "devotee", my grandfather was a devotee first & a trader later. He was speaking a absolute fact his legendary grandfather, used to open their shop at Sharp 4 in the morning lest any devotee be left unserviced if he required to purchase anything. A man of rare principles he used to diligently invest 20% of his earnings towards social work. What a contrast to the current generation. Subsequently I learnt this A real eka mukhi cannot exist on this plane. Its effulgence is such that it can make the combined radiance of a 1000 sun's look pale in comparsion. One has to become" blind" in order to see it. It is the alpha, beta & the omega. It is the "seed" of all manifestation. Even the rishis vie to catch a glimpse... Are we deserving enough to even talk about it? With Warm Regards & Deepest of Admiration for You Sir, Abhishek Dutta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 Hello Abhishek Dutta, Namaste! Certainly an interesting story, incredible or credible... how did you learn that the bead shown to you was not 'genuine' after all? And how do you arrive at the bold other-worldly conclusion, I fail to see why Genuine Round One Mukhi Rudraksha cannot exist on this plane, as rare as it may be in this Kali Yuga, as it is already given as a fact in Shastra. In this connection, I would like to share with this group some precious information, on the same subject, shared earlier this year in a private mail to me by Shri Kamal Narayan Seetha, the Vedic Scholar and Venerable Founder of Rudra Centre and author of POWER OF RUDRAKSHA, likely the greatest living exponent of Authentic and scientific Knowledge of Sri Rudraksha. "Dear Ole Alstrup, Om Namah Shivaya, I am pleased to have received your mail and my reply is as under: It has been the contention of many that any rudraksha in which there is only one line existing from the time it is plucked from the tree ,without any tampering or disfiguring later may be accepted as one mukhi rudraksha.such rudraksha is also very rare and all fakes are tampered only later by removing other lines and leaving only one line which most people can make out or understand. There is a practice which gets succeeded in Nepal in which steel clamps are fastened over the shell of a 2 mukhi rudraksha and by force the growth of second line is retarded.If they really succeed the seed is classified as one mukhi. As I have mentioned in my book,if the lines originating from the mouth portion do not get completed in a natural process and only one line exists in its original shape,the bead may be accepted as one mukhi,although such cases are also extremely rare.It is immaterial if the shape has a five or four mukhi locule or it was meant to be two mukhi or three mukhi. The bead shown as one mukhi in my book is shapewise a 4 mukhi rudraksha but there is only one line which existed naturally and this rudraksha has never been tampered.This rudraksha is ours . If we try to put in yet another way,take an example of say 10 mukhi rudraksha.How do we count the lines.We ignore the splitting at the mouth and we are only concerened with the completed lines.Even if there are 12 lines but 2 of them are incomplete the rudraksha will be treated as 10 mukhi only.Just one must ensure that there is no forceful man made change after the bead gets formed and plucked from the tree. If we can imagine and formate the pojected shape of one mukhi from botanical view point,its shape should be similar to a two mukhi rudraksha,or like an eye(you may call it ellyptical).(Not the halfmoon shape,in any way) The so called original one mukhi from Nepal in round variety is a mystery and any rudraksha which is absolutely round or even nearly round can not be one mukhi as per the distinct natural shape the beads adopt from 5 mukhi and lower.Pl see the shapes once again as how the nature changes its shape with respect to mukhi(facets). In this regard the one mukhi from Indonesia is genuine and is available.This can be certified as one mukhi due to its internal structure also. Regarding the blessings and chanting of Mantras for rudraksha please note that all old epics suggest us to do this.There are specific seed mantras for different mukhis which are meant for chanting while wearing. Although due to its miraculous and higher level of energies and self manifestation,some epics also say in their way of great reverence to the beads that even if you do not worship and wear these beads without getting them blessed the beads will be effective.However,by and large this purification and blessing is necessary as per most epics and saints and sages.In India most people even while buying .In any way all mukhi beads are rules over by different gods and they have got to be pleased to derive benefits through them. In India most people take out their shoes while buying rudraksha and it is a symbol of piousness and purity which is an established practice and it is good for the health of the bead. Regards, Kamal N.Seetha" ~ Ole Alstrup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 Namaskar Ole, Yes, it's a incredible story after-all. What makes you feel my conclusion is other-worldly? All the concerned persons are within this world though not on the same plane. I feel the catch-line for a Eka Mukhi Gol Dana goes like; "There are some things which money can't buy for everything else there is Mastercard." Greatness & Venerable are very subjective terms, "Knowledgeable" & "Respected", are more appropriate epithets. With Warm Regards, Abhishek alstrup <alstrup > wrote: Hello Abhishek Dutta, Namaste! Certainly an interesting story, incredible or credible... how did you learn that the bead shown to you was not 'genuine' after all? And how do you arrive at the bold other-worldly conclusion, I fail to see why Genuine Round One Mukhi Rudraksha cannot exist on this plane, as rare as it may be in this Kali Yuga, as it is already given as a fact in Shastra. In this connection, I would like to share with this group some precious information, on the same subject, shared earlier this year in a private mail to me by Shri Kamal Narayan Seetha, the Vedic Scholar and Venerable Founder of Rudra Centre and author of POWER OF RUDRAKSHA, likely the greatest living exponent of Authentic and scientific Knowledge of Sri Rudraksha. "Dear Ole Alstrup, Om Namah Shivaya, I am pleased to have received your mail and my reply is as under: It has been the contention of many that any rudraksha in which there is only one line existing from the time it is plucked from the tree ,without any tampering or disfiguring later may be accepted as one mukhi rudraksha.such rudraksha is also very rare and all fakes are tampered only later by removing other lines and leaving only one line which most people can make out or understand. There is a practice which gets succeeded in Nepal in which steel clamps are fastened over the shell of a 2 mukhi rudraksha and by force the growth of second line is retarded.If they really succeed the seed is classified as one mukhi. As I have mentioned in my book,if the lines originating from the mouth portion do not get completed in a natural process and only one line exists in its original shape,the bead may be accepted as one mukhi,although such cases are also extremely rare.It is immaterial if the shape has a five or four mukhi locule or it was meant to be two mukhi or three mukhi. The bead shown as one mukhi in my book is shapewise a 4 mukhi rudraksha but there is only one line which existed naturally and this rudraksha has never been tampered.This rudraksha is ours . If we try to put in yet another way,take an example of say 10 mukhi rudraksha.How do we count the lines.We ignore the splitting at the mouth and we are only concerened with the completed lines.Even if there are 12 lines but 2 of them are incomplete the rudraksha will be treated as 10 mukhi only.Just one must ensure that there is no forceful man made change after the bead gets formed and plucked from the tree. If we can imagine and formate the pojected shape of one mukhi from botanical view point,its shape should be similar to a two mukhi rudraksha,or like an eye(you may call it ellyptical).(Not the halfmoon shape,in any way) The so called original one mukhi from Nepal in round variety is a mystery and any rudraksha which is absolutely round or even nearly round can not be one mukhi as per the distinct natural shape the beads adopt from 5 mukhi and lower.Pl see the shapes once again as how the nature changes its shape with respect to mukhi(facets). In this regard the one mukhi from Indonesia is genuine and is available.This can be certified as one mukhi due to its internal structure also. Regarding the blessings and chanting of Mantras for rudraksha please note that all old epics suggest us to do this.There are specific seed mantras for different mukhis which are meant for chanting while wearing. Although due to its miraculous and higher level of energies and self manifestation,some epics also say in their way of great reverence to the beads that even if you do not worship and wear these beads without getting them blessed the beads will be effective.However,by and large this purification and blessing is necessary as per most epics and saints and sages.In India most people even while buying .In any way all mukhi beads are rules over by different gods and they have got to be pleased to derive benefits through them. In India most people take out their shoes while buying rudraksha and it is a symbol of piousness and purity which is an established practice and it is good for the health of the bead. Regards, Kamal N.Seetha" ~ Ole Alstrup Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 Hello Abhishek Ji Can you please give me the address and Name of the dealer in Haridwar whom you mentioned in the email. Regards Deven Chopra sacred-objects, "benarsibabu" <benarsibabu wrote: > > > I think its the right time to share a confidential communication i sent > to Hrishikeshji thru my gmail account. Though i can never share the > reply he sent me. I think Sir, its high time we shared this mail. The > most important part of this mail is in bold. Best Wishes. > > Feb 27, 2006 11:21 PM > > Dear Richard Sir, > > I saw your posting on the sacred objects forum as to why shall anyone > sell a Genuine Round One Mukhi Rudraksha. The Key to the reply is > whether the person concerned is a "Devotee" or a "Trader". > > Let me share an personal experience. I know a leading family of Haridwar > who are dealing in spiritual artifacts since the 19th century. They > charge a premium for their products but their integrity is > unquestionable. Around an year ago, I received a call from the > proprietor, asking me to immediately reach Haridwar, as he had found > something of immense, "value." > > So off, I went to add another chapter to my Rudraksha Quest. I found his > "haveli" was under renovation. One of his sons ushered me to a room & > their i was shown a rudraksha which was definitely a real gol dana eka > mukhi. I was Zapped for a while & felt elated that he had accorded me > this opportunity to have a darshana of this rare bead. > > Then he said something which surprised me no end. He said that he > intends to sell this bead to me & quoted a sum equivalent to a fine > jyotish quality, 3 carat emerald from the Panjshir valley. > Affordability was not the criteria.I asked it how come the bead reached > his hands in the first place. > > Then began a story which in the sacred artifact world is termed as > adding folklore. But without a doubt his folklore was credible. The > house being under renovation, he chanced upon a sack tucked into the > most unnoticeable corner of a room used by his grandfather. > > He categorically told me that he had called me immediately while the > house was still under renovation so that i should not feel that he > intends to lie to me. He also emphatically added that i was being given > a chance as i was a very close friend of his son. > > I profusely thanked him for giving me this seemingly "immense stature". > I told him; "Uncle I think your legendary grandfather might have kept it > like that for a purpose & emphatically told him not to sell it to me or > to anyone else for that matter. I feel that it might be because of this > rarest of rare artifact that you are on such a high pedestal in this > trade." > > He gave me an expression as if to say, to hell with that grandfather, > are you interested?? After a stoic silence he said & i quote him > verbatim, " Look Son, I am a "trader" not a "devotee", my grandfather > was a devotee first & a trader later. > > He was speaking a absolute fact his legendary grandfather, used to open > their shop at Sharp 4 in the morning lest any devotee be left unserviced > if he required to purchase anything. A man of rare principles he used to > diligently invest 20% of his earnings towards social work. What a > contrast to the current generation. > > Subsequently I learnt this > > A real eka mukhi cannot exist on this plane. Its effulgence is such that > it can make the combined radiance of a 1000 sun's look pale in > comparsion. One has to become" blind" in order to see it. It is the > alpha, beta & the omega. It is the "seed" of all manifestation. Even the > rishis vie to catch a glimpse... > > Are we deserving enough to even talk about it? > > > With Warm Regards & Deepest of Admiration for You Sir, > > Abhishek Dutta > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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