Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Dear Vistiji, This lady has Capricorn lagna with mercury in the 12th house. Her UL is virgo and Rahu is also in Virgo. So I suppose she should fast on Wednesdays, but whom should she pray? Regards, Nutan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Nutan, Namaskar. If the lord of the upapada is Mercury, then she should worship Vishnu to bring the spouse. A nice Rg Veda mantra would be good. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com nutan2510 wrote: > > Dear Vistiji, > > This lady has Capricorn lagna with mercury in the 12th house. Her UL > is virgo and Rahu is also in Virgo. So I suppose she should fast on > Wednesdays, but whom should she pray? > > Regards, > Nutan > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 namaskar Dear Guruji, In previous days we've been taught to use 2L from UL to bring spouse. Why now it changed to UL lord? Regards Rafal Gendarz - Visti Larsen Saturday, October 07, 2006 8:33 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] To Vistiji |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Nutan, Namaskar. If the lord of the upapada is Mercury, then she should worship Vishnu to bring the spouse. A nice Rg Veda mantra would be good. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com nutan2510 wrote: Dear Vistiji, This lady has Capricorn lagna with mercury in the 12th house. Her UL is virgo and Rahu is also in Virgo. So I suppose she should fast on Wednesdays, but whom should she pray? Regards, Nutan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Rafal, Namaskar. I have never taught that, you are mistaken. The second from UL is worshiped to sustain the relationship. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Rafal Gendarz wrote: > > namaskar > Dear Guruji, > > In previous days we've been taught to use 2L from UL to bring spouse. > Why now it changed to UL lord? > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > > > > - > ** Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > *To:* > <> > *Sent:* Saturday, October 07, 2006 8:33 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] To Vistiji > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > Dear Nutan, Namaskar. > If the lord of the upapada is Mercury, then she should worship > Vishnu to bring the spouse. A nice Rg Veda mantra would be good. > Yours sincerely, > > Visti Larsen > Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > nutan2510 wrote: >> >> Dear Vistiji, >> >> This lady has Capricorn lagna with mercury in the 12th house. Her UL >> is virgo and Rahu is also in Virgo. So I suppose she should fast on >> Wednesdays, but whom should she pray? >> >> Regards, >> Nutan >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 Dear Visti ji, sorry for jumping in, can we also add that the avtar's of vishnu, like ram , krishna, /else. Thanks tarun On 10/7/06, nutan2510 <nutan2510 > wrote: > > Dear Vistiji, > > This lady has Capricorn lagna with mercury in the 12th house. Her UL > is virgo and Rahu is also in Virgo. So I suppose she should fast on > Wednesdays, but whom should she pray? > > Regards, > Nutan > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 Dear Vistji, Thanks! Can you please suggest some good Rg Veda Mantra? Regards, Nutan , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > Dear Nutan, Namaskar. > If the lord of the upapada is Mercury, then she should worship Vishnu to > bring the spouse. A nice Rg Veda mantra would be good. > Yours sincerely, > > Visti Larsen > Email: visti > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > > > > nutan2510 wrote: > > > > Dear Vistiji, > > > > This lady has Capricorn lagna with mercury in the 12th house. Her UL > > is virgo and Rahu is also in Virgo. So I suppose she should fast on > > Wednesdays, but whom should she pray? > > > > Regards, > > Nutan > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 || Hare Rama Krishna || Dear Voja, Namaskar I know your questions were addressed to Vistiji, but perhaps I might be able to share what he has taught me in this regard? >Should we worship lord of first UL to bring first spouse, lord of >2nd UL for next... or look at 1st UL as a root? [samir] Yes, it depends which UL. But for fasting 1st UL is the root. >I have a few more doubts about UL if you can please clarify these: >1) If Lord of 1st UL is in 2nd UL (let's say Karka UL, Ca in >Kumbha), or 2nd UL lord is in 1st UL (e.g. Ca in Dhanus in 1st UL) >does it shows that both 1st UL and 2nd UL are with same partner? In >first example partners Lagna is Tula (the best posited graha in >trines to 1st UL is exalted Sk, and Tula is in trines to 2nd UL). [samir] My understanding is that each upapada indicates a different person. Otherwise every time you broke up with someone and then made up, you would move to the next UL. The concept of UL is that it is a long term thing, with all the ups and downs that come with it. >2) If 7th from UL is stronger we take that 7th as UL (correct?), but >in that case do we consider for partner's Lagna trines (and rasi >where is lord, and strongest graha in trines to be partner's LL) >from UL or 7th from it? [samir] You don't take the 7th from it as the UL in terms of analysis (same as you don't treat the 7th house as lagna if it's stronger). But if the 7th from the UL is stronger then the partner's lagna could be in trines to that (or influenced by the same planets). I hope that helps. I'm sure Guruji will add his comments where necessary. Best wishes, Samir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Voja, Samir and Bojan, Namaskar. Samir has answered correctly to all points. Only the point #1 isn't entirely accurately answered. Also Bojan didn't get the remedies right but his other points are correct. - See when the planets associated with the initial and subsequent upapada(s) are the same it shows a relationship where initial breakup has occurred followed by reconciliation. Example: If Aries is the first upapada and Mars is in scorpio, then the first and second upapadas can be the same person. if however Mars is joined another planet, then it is not so. Also if another planet is in Aries then again it is not so. - When we talk of the Upapada and fasting we must keep in mind that fasting is liking giving away or giving up something. For this reason fasting on days of the lagna or arudha lagna can turn negative for the person and give health or career problems. Hence, in some cases special consideration needs to be made for people, just as that Bojan mentioned. But, i am suprised that fasting was given for the seventh from UL - this i would like to learn more about. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Samir Shah wrote: > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > Dear Voja, Namaskar > > I know your questions were addressed to Vistiji, but perhaps I might > be able to share what he has taught me in this regard? > >> Should we worship lord of first UL to bring first spouse, lord of 2nd >> UL for next... or look at 1st UL as a root? > > [samir] Yes, it depends which UL. But for fasting 1st UL is the root. > >> I have a few more doubts about UL if you can please clarify these: >> 1) If Lord of 1st UL is in 2nd UL (let's say Karka UL, Ca in Kumbha), >> or 2nd UL lord is in 1st UL (e.g. Ca in Dhanus in 1st UL) does it >> shows that both 1st UL and 2nd UL are with same partner? In first >> example partners Lagna is Tula (the best posited graha in trines to >> 1st UL is exalted Sk, and Tula is in trines to 2nd UL). > > [samir] My understanding is that each upapada indicates a different > person. Otherwise every time you broke up with someone and then made > up, you would move to the next UL. The concept of UL is that it is a > long term thing, with all the ups and downs that come with it. > >> 2) If 7th from UL is stronger we take that 7th as UL (correct?), but >> in that case do we consider for partner's Lagna trines (and rasi >> where is lord, and strongest graha in trines to be partner's LL) from >> UL or 7th from it? > > [samir] You don't take the 7th from it as the UL in terms of analysis > (same as you don't treat the 7th house as lagna if it's stronger). > But if the 7th from the UL is stronger then the partner's lagna could > be in trines to that (or influenced by the same planets). > > I hope that helps. I'm sure Guruji will add his comments where necessary. > > Best wishes, > > Samir > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Dear Vistiji, What about people who have their AL and UL in the same sign. Can we still prescribe fasting to them to bring the spouse?Or will that damage the health and career as you mention below? Sincerely, ND Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Voja, Samir and Bojan, Namaskar. Samir has answered correctly to all points. Only the point #1 isn't entirely accurately answered. Also Bojan didn't get the remedies right but his other points are correct. - See when the planets associated with the initial and subsequent upapada(s) are the same it shows a relationship where initial breakup has occurred followed by reconciliation. Example: If Aries is the first upapada and Mars is in scorpio, then the first and second upapadas can be the same person. if however Mars is joined another planet, then it is not so. Also if another planet is in Aries then again it is not so. - When we talk of the Upapada and fasting we must keep in mind that fasting is liking giving away or giving up something. For this reason fasting on days of the lagna or arudha lagna can turn negative for the person and give health or career problems. Hence, in some cases special consideration needs to be made for people, just as that Bojan mentioned. But, i am suprised that fasting was given for the seventh from UL - this i would like to learn more about. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Samir Shah wrote: Dear Voja, Namaskar I know your questions were addressed to Vistiji, but perhaps I might be able to share what he has taught me in this regard? Should we worship lord of first UL to bring first spouse, lord of 2nd UL for next... or look at 1st UL as a root? [samir] Yes, it depends which UL. But for fasting 1st UL is the root. I have a few more doubts about UL if you can please clarify these: 1) If Lord of 1st UL is in 2nd UL (let's say Karka UL, Ca in Kumbha), or 2nd UL lord is in 1st UL (e.g. Ca in Dhanus in 1st UL) does it shows that both 1st UL and 2nd UL are with same partner? In first example partners Lagna is Tula (the best posited graha in trines to 1st UL is exalted Sk, and Tula is in trines to 2nd UL). [samir] My understanding is that each upapada indicates a different person. Otherwise every time you broke up with someone and then made up, you would move to the next UL. The concept of UL is that it is a long term thing, with all the ups and downs that come with it. 2) If 7th from UL is stronger we take that 7th as UL (correct?), but in that case do we consider for partner's Lagna trines (and rasi where is lord, and strongest graha in trines to be partner's LL) from UL or 7th from it? [samir] You don't take the 7th from it as the UL in terms of analysis (same as you don't treat the 7th house as lagna if it's stronger). But if the 7th from the UL is stronger then the partner's lagna could be in trines to that (or influenced by the same planets). I hope that helps. I'm sure Guruji will add his comments where necessary. Best wishes, Samir All new Mail - Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 || Hare Raama Krsna || Dear Nadia-ji, namaskar. May I be permitted to comment while we await Visti-ji's learned remarks for our further education ? UL indicates to whom we give and also what we give. While a person may be well known for possession of wealth, his donations (daanam) increases his fame and strengthens AL even further. Fasting is about self denial and giving. Fasting should be done on the day of the lord of UL. If AL in 1-7 to UL, this will boost his AL also. In Bill Gates' chart, notice that UL is in the 7th from AL with Chandra in Meena rasi. The more he gives, the more his name and fame will rise. He definitely gives out of compassion as Chandra in Pisces in UL is indicating. Notice that lord of 7th from UL is in the 12-th from AL indicating again that the giving is for a good cause. 7th house from AL is the Dwara Rasi and hence a benefic in the 'dwara' (door) augurs well. This is in my opinion and as per my understanding. Best wishes, Sourav ================================================================== , ND <nadiadeol wrote: > > Dear Vistiji, > > What about people who have their AL and UL in the same sign. Can we still prescribe fasting to them to bring the spouse?Or will that damage the health and career as you mention below? > > Sincerely, > ND > > Visti Larsen visti wrote: |Hare Rama Krsna| > Dear Voja, Samir and Bojan, Namaskar. > Samir has answered correctly to all points. Only the point #1 isn't entirely accurately answered. Also Bojan didn't get the remedies right but his other points are correct. > - See when the planets associated with the initial and subsequent upapada(s) are the same it shows a relationship where initial breakup has occurred followed by reconciliation. > Example: If Aries is the first upapada and Mars is in scorpio, then the first and second upapadas can be the same person. if however Mars is joined another planet, then it is not so. Also if another planet is in Aries then again it is not so. > > - When we talk of the Upapada and fasting we must keep in mind that fasting is liking giving away or giving up something. For this reason fasting on days of the lagna or arudha lagna can turn negative for the person and give health or career problems. Hence, in some cases special consideration needs to be made for people, just as that Bojan mentioned. But, i am suprised that fasting was given for the seventh from UL - this i would like to learn more about. > > Yours sincerely, > > > Visti Larsen > Email: visti For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > > > Samir Shah wrote: > > Dear Voja, Namaskar > > I know your questions were addressed to Vistiji, but perhaps I might be able to share what he has taught me in this regard? > > > Should we worship lord of first UL to bring first spouse, lord of 2nd UL for next... or look at 1st UL as a root? > [samir] Yes, it depends which UL. But for fasting 1st UL is the root. > > I have a few more doubts about UL if you can please clarify these: > 1) If Lord of 1st UL is in 2nd UL (let's say Karka UL, Ca in Kumbha), or 2nd UL lord is in 1st UL (e.g. Ca in Dhanus in 1st UL) does it shows that both 1st UL and 2nd UL are with same partner? In first example partners Lagna is Tula (the best posited graha in trines to 1st UL is exalted Sk, and Tula is in trines to 2nd UL). > [samir] My understanding is that each upapada indicates a different person. Otherwise every time you broke up with someone and then made up, you would move to the next UL. The concept of UL is that it is a long term thing, with all the ups and downs that come with it. > > 2) If 7th from UL is stronger we take that 7th as UL (correct?), but in that case do we consider for partner's Lagna trines (and rasi where is lord, and strongest graha in trines to be partner's LL) from UL or 7th from it? > [samir] You don't take the 7th from it as the UL in terms of analysis (same as you don't treat the 7th house as lagna if it's stronger). But if the 7th from the UL is stronger then the partner's lagna could be in trines to that (or influenced by the same planets). > > I hope that helps. I'm sure Guruji will add his comments where necessary. > > Best wishes, > > Samir > > All new Mail - > > Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Samir, For item 2 it is possible that you break up with a person and start again with the same person. In this case you will have to look at two different UL's. Visti could you confirm this. With best wishes, Mike [] On Behalf Of Samir Shah Friday, October 13, 2006 8:18 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] To Vistiji || Hare Rama Krishna || <http://rayofsolaris.co.uk/images/shadakshari.jpg> Dear Voja, Namaskar I know your questions were addressed to Vistiji, but perhaps I might be able to share what he has taught me in this regard? Should we worship lord of first UL to bring first spouse, lord of 2nd UL for next... or look at 1st UL as a root? [samir] Yes, it depends which UL. But for fasting 1st UL is the root. I have a few more doubts about UL if you can please clarify these: 1) If Lord of 1st UL is in 2nd UL (let's say Karka UL, Ca in Kumbha), or 2nd UL lord is in 1st UL (e.g. Ca in Dhanus in 1st UL) does it shows that both 1st UL and 2nd UL are with same partner? In first example partners Lagna is Tula (the best posited graha in trines to 1st UL is exalted Sk, and Tula is in trines to 2nd UL). [samir] My understanding is that each upapada indicates a different person. Otherwise every time you broke up with someone and then made up, you would move to the next UL. The concept of UL is that it is a long term thing, with all the ups and downs that come with it. 2) If 7th from UL is stronger we take that 7th as UL (correct?), but in that case do we consider for partner's Lagna trines (and rasi where is lord, and strongest graha in trines to be partner's LL) from UL or 7th from it? [samir] You don't take the 7th from it as the UL in terms of analysis (same as you don't treat the 7th house as lagna if it's stronger). But if the 7th from the UL is stronger then the partner's lagna could be in trines to that (or influenced by the same planets). I hope that helps. I'm sure Guruji will add his comments where necessary. Best wishes, Samir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 || Hare Raama Krsna || Dear Nadia-ji, namaskar. May I be permitted to comment while we await Visti-ji's learned remarks for our further education ? UL indicates to whom we give and also what we give. While a person may be well known for possession of wealth, his donations (daanam) increases his fame and strengthens AL even further. Fasting is about self denial and giving. Fasting should be done on the day of the lord of UL. If AL in 1-7 to UL, this will boost his AL also. In Bill Gates' chart, notice that UL is in the 7th from AL with Chandra in Meena rasi. The more he gives, the more his name and fame will rise. He definitely gives out of compassion as Chandra in Pisces in UL is indicating. Notice that lord of 7th from AL is in the 12-th from AL indicating again that the giving is for a good cause. 7th house from AL is the Dwara Rasi and hence a benefic in the 'dwara' (door) augurs well. This is in my opinion and as per my understanding. Best wishes, Sourav ================================================================== , ND <nadiadeol wrote: > > Dear Vistiji, > > What about people who have their AL and UL in the same sign. Can we still prescribe fasting to them to bring the spouse?Or will that damage the health and career as you mention below? > > Sincerely, > ND > > Visti Larsen visti wrote: |Hare Rama Krsna| > Dear Voja, Samir and Bojan, Namaskar. > Samir has answered correctly to all points. Only the point #1 isn't entirely accurately answered. Also Bojan didn't get the remedies right but his other points are correct. > - See when the planets associated with the initial and subsequent upapada(s) are the same it shows a relationship where initial breakup has occurred followed by reconciliation. > Example: If Aries is the first upapada and Mars is in scorpio, then the first and second upapadas can be the same person. if however Mars is joined another planet, then it is not so. Also if another planet is in Aries then again it is not so. > > - When we talk of the Upapada and fasting we must keep in mind that fasting is liking giving away or giving up something. For this reason fasting on days of the lagna or arudha lagna can turn negative for the person and give health or career problems. Hence, in some cases special consideration needs to be made for people, just as that Bojan mentioned. But, i am suprised that fasting was given for the seventh from UL - this i would like to learn more about. > > Yours sincerely, > > > Visti Larsen > Email: visti For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > > > Samir Shah wrote: > > Dear Voja, Namaskar > > I know your questions were addressed to Vistiji, but perhaps I might be able to share what he has taught me in this regard? > > > Should we worship lord of first UL to bring first spouse, lord of 2nd UL for next... or look at 1st UL as a root? > [samir] Yes, it depends which UL. But for fasting 1st UL is the root. > > I have a few more doubts about UL if you can please clarify these: > 1) If Lord of 1st UL is in 2nd UL (let's say Karka UL, Ca in Kumbha), or 2nd UL lord is in 1st UL (e.g. Ca in Dhanus in 1st UL) does it shows that both 1st UL and 2nd UL are with same partner? In first example partners Lagna is Tula (the best posited graha in trines to 1st UL is exalted Sk, and Tula is in trines to 2nd UL). > [samir] My understanding is that each upapada indicates a different person. Otherwise every time you broke up with someone and then made up, you would move to the next UL. The concept of UL is that it is a long term thing, with all the ups and downs that come with it. > > 2) If 7th from UL is stronger we take that 7th as UL (correct?), but in that case do we consider for partner's Lagna trines (and rasi where is lord, and strongest graha in trines to be partner's LL) from UL or 7th from it? > [samir] You don't take the 7th from it as the UL in terms of analysis (same as you don't treat the 7th house as lagna if it's stronger). But if the 7th from the UL is stronger then the partner's lagna could be in trines to that (or influenced by the same planets). > > I hope that helps. I'm sure Guruji will add his comments where necessary. > > Best wishes, > > Samir > > All new Mail - > > Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2006 Report Share Posted October 14, 2006 || Hare Rama Krishna || Dear Guruji and Michael, Namaskar Thanks - this was something new to me. What is curious is that if this happens, then the same person will now be represented by a different house in the Rasi and Navamsa, indicating different characteristics! Best wishes, Samir At 19:29 13/10/2006, you wrote: >Samir, > >For item 2 it is possible that you break up with a person and start >again with the same person. In this case you will have to look at >two different UL's. > >Visti could you confirm this. > >With best wishes, > >Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2006 Report Share Posted October 14, 2006 Saadar Pranaam Guruji , You have mentioned that fasting on the day of the lagna can turn negative.... My lagna lord is cancer[with saturn] and my upapada lagna is Pisces[with Jupiter],lagna lord is in Gemini,the 12th house.[18/12/75,20:31,ahmedabad]I have been following Monday fasting and pray to Shiva-Parvati for my husband's wellbeing, since last six years.Should I attribute my several changes of jobs to this? Health seems fine but career wise I feel no motivation now after being home based for three years.I have also started to do Thursday fasting. At the same time if to end a fast I take a Prasad that is in accordance to the day specified,will it improve or weaken the significations of that planet? For example,Prasad of Kheer[milk,rice,sugar] on Mondays,yellow halwa/laddoos[gram flour based] on Thursdays and so on...I am putting forth this doubt as you have said that fasting is like giving up,so should one be donating/distributing such Prasad,instead of consuming it? Thanking you, highly obliged, bindiya. Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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