Guest guest Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 Dear Visti ji & Rafal ji as it is said venus bad in 12th house for males, as venus is female for the boys, and so is mars a male for the girls, it is said that venus in 12th makes one to loss in love life., so shall we consider the same in case of mars in 12th house for girls. Thanks and regards Tarun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 || Hare Raama Krsna || Dear Tarun, namaskar. No Sukra is significator of marriage and relationships (jala tattva) for both male and female. Hence its position in the 12-th house especially in the Navaamsa is bad for relationships. Mangal is not related to this concept. Infact, Mangal's MKS is 7th house (relationships, harmony etc) and Mangal doesn't like it at all. Best wishes, Sourav ================================================================== , "Tarun Agarwal" <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Dear Visti ji & Rafal ji > > as it is said venus bad in 12th house for males, as venus is female for the > boys, and so is mars a male for the girls, > > it is said that venus in 12th makes one to loss in love life., so shall we > consider the same in case of mars in 12th house for girls. > > Thanks and regards > Tarun > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 Dear Sourav ji, Thanks for your reply. I was expecting the same answer but one doubt was created yesterday after reading one article in newspaper. Thanks and Warm Regards tarun On 10/8/06, Sourav <souravc108 > wrote: > > *|| Hare Raama Krsna ||* > > Dear Tarun, > > namaskar. No Sukra is significator of marriage > and relationships (jala tattva) for both male and female. Hence its position > in the 12-th house especially in the Navaamsa is bad for relationships. > Mangal is not related to this concept. Infact, Mangal's MKS is 7th house > (relationships, harmony etc) and Mangal doesn't like it at all. > > Best wishes, > > Sourav > > ================================================================== > , "Tarun Agarwal" <tarun.virgo > wrote: > > > > Dear Visti ji & Rafal ji > > > > as it is said venus bad in 12th house for males, as venus is female for > the > > boys, and so is mars a male for the girls, > > > > it is said that venus in 12th makes one to loss in love life., so shall > we > > consider the same in case of mars in 12th house for girls. > > > > Thanks and regards > > Tarun > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Dear Guruji, Sadar Pranaam, Is that case Venus when afflicted by malefic or node may delay marriage in males and females?? Guruji , one more question , I hope I am not irritating you , does neecha signifies sign of debiliation or something else(inmical house). I have one chart where girl has Libra Lagna with lagna lord in 9th house of gemini but 10th house occupied by Mercury and rahu , so Rahu afflicts LL so she tries bad ways to get her work done?? also malefics in 12th , Mars and Saturn delaying her marriage, she is 26 but still not married , I hope you are Indian?? , In India we have some range of age 21-24 of girls getting married. Also in many girls chart this venus is afflicted either by node or aspect from saturn. Best Wishes, Jim. Sourav <souravc108 > wrote: || Hare Raama Krsna || Dear Tarun, namaskar. No Sukra is significator of marriage and relationships (jala tattva) for both male and female. Hence its position in the 12-th house especially in the Navaamsa is bad for relationships. Mangal is not related to this concept. Infact, Mangal's MKS is 7th house (relationships, harmony etc) and Mangal doesn't like it at all. Best wishes, Sourav ================================================================== , "Tarun Agarwal" <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Dear Visti ji & Rafal ji > > as it is said venus bad in 12th house for males, as venus is female for the > boys, and so is mars a male for the girls, > > it is said that venus in 12th makes one to loss in love life., so shall we > consider the same in case of mars in 12th house for girls. > > Thanks and regards > Tarun > On 7 Caller tones: Replace your ring tone with your favourite sound clip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 hello Jim, dear please start a new thread if you have another questions , i request you not to disturb the directions of already commencing threads. Thanks Tarun On 10/9/06, Jim <vedicastro_mind > wrote: > > Dear Guruji, > Sadar Pranaam, > > Is that case Venus when afflicted by malefic or node may delay marriage > in males and females?? > > Guruji , one more question , I hope I am not irritating you , does neecha > signifies sign of debiliation or something else(inmical house). > > I have one chart where girl has Libra Lagna with lagna lord in 9th house > of gemini but 10th house occupied by Mercury and rahu , so Rahu afflicts LL > so she tries bad ways to get her work done?? > also malefics in 12th , Mars and Saturn delaying her marriage, > she is 26 but still not married , I hope you are Indian?? , In India we > have some range of age 21-24 of girls getting married. > > Also in many girls chart this venus is afflicted either by node or aspect > from saturn. > > Best Wishes, > Jim. > > > *Sourav <souravc108 >* wrote: > > *|| Hare Raama Krsna ||* > Dear Tarun, > namaskar. No Sukra is significator of marriage > and relationships (jala tattva) for both male and female. Hence its position > in the 12-th house especially in the Navaamsa is bad for relationships. > Mangal is not related to this concept. Infact, Mangal's MKS is 7th house > (relationships, harmony etc) and Mangal doesn't like it at all. > Best wishes, > Sourav > ================================================================== > , "Tarun Agarwal" <tarun.virgo > wrote: > > > > Dear Visti ji & Rafal ji > > > > as it is said venus bad in 12th house for males, as venus is female for > the > > boys, and so is mars a male for the girls, > > > > it is said that venus in 12th makes one to loss in love life., so shall > we > > consider the same in case of mars in 12th house for girls. > > > > Thanks and regards > > Tarun > > > > > > ------------------------------ > On 7 > Caller tones: Replace your ring tone with your favourite sound clip!<http://au.rd./mail/tag/callertones/SIG=126ar4ut7/**http%3A%2F%2Fcallertones.7.mnetcorporation.com%2Fctonesinsider> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Am I talking with you? I am talking with Guruji , what he says I will do that. You try hard more next time to get your answers. Kind Regards, Jim Tarun Agarwal <tarun.virgo > wrote: hello Jim, dear please start a new thread if you have another questions , i request you not to disturb the directions of already commencing threads. Thanks Tarun On 10/9/06, Jim <vedicastro_mind > wrote: Dear Guruji, Sadar Pranaam, Is that case Venus when afflicted by malefic or node may delay marriage in males and females?? Guruji , one more question , I hope I am not irritating you , does neecha signifies sign of debiliation or something else(inmical house). I have one chart where girl has Libra Lagna with lagna lord in 9th house of gemini but 10th house occupied by Mercury and rahu , so Rahu afflicts LL so she tries bad ways to get her work done?? also malefics in 12th , Mars and Saturn delaying her marriage, she is 26 but still not married , I hope you are Indian?? , In India we have some range of age 21-24 of girls getting married. Also in many girls chart this venus is afflicted either by node or aspect from saturn. Best Wishes, Jim. Sourav <souravc108 > wrote: || Hare Raama Krsna || Dear Tarun, namaskar. No Sukra is significator of marriage and relationships (jala tattva) for both male and female. Hence its position in the 12-th house especially in the Navaamsa is bad for relationships. Mangal is not related to this concept. Infact, Mangal's MKS is 7th house (relationships, harmony etc) and Mangal doesn't like it at all. Best wishes, Sourav ================================================================== , "Tarun Agarwal" <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Dear Visti ji & Rafal ji > > as it is said venus bad in 12th house for males, as venus is female for the > boys, and so is mars a male for the girls, > > it is said that venus in 12th makes one to loss in love life., so shall we > consider the same in case of mars in 12th house for girls. > > Thanks and regards > Tarun > On 7 Caller tones: Replace your ring tone with your favourite sound clip! On 7 Music: Create your own personalised radio station. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Dear Jim, I am not fighting with you, and so please dont use my words so much personally, but i hope Visti ji and other members agree to my reply to you. Thanks On 10/9/06, Jim <vedicastro_mind > wrote: > > Am I talking with you? > I am talking with Guruji , what he says I will do that. > You try hard more next time to get your answers. > > Kind Regards, > Jim > > > *Tarun Agarwal <tarun.virgo >* wrote: > > hello Jim, > > > dear please start a new thread if you have another questions , i request > you not to disturb the directions of already commencing threads. > > > Thanks > Tarun > > > On 10/9/06, Jim <vedicastro_mind > wrote: > > > > Dear Guruji, > > Sadar Pranaam, > > > > Is that case Venus when afflicted by malefic or node may delay marriage > > in males and females?? > > > > Guruji , one more question , I hope I am not irritating you , does > > neecha signifies sign of debiliation or something else(inmical house). > > > > I have one chart where girl has Libra Lagna with lagna lord in 9th house > > of gemini but 10th house occupied by Mercury and rahu , so Rahu afflicts LL > > so she tries bad ways to get her work done?? > > also malefics in 12th , Mars and Saturn delaying her marriage, > > she is 26 but still not married , I hope you are Indian?? , In India we > > have some range of age 21-24 of girls getting married. > > > > Also in many girls chart this venus is afflicted either by node or > > aspect from saturn. > > > > Best Wishes, > > Jim. > > > > > > *Sourav <souravc108 >* wrote: > > > > *|| Hare Raama Krsna ||* > > Dear Tarun, > > namaskar. No Sukra is significator of > > marriage and relationships (jala tattva) for both male and female. Hence its > > position in the 12-th house especially in the Navaamsa is bad for > > relationships. Mangal is not related to this concept. Infact, Mangal's MKS > > is 7th house (relationships, harmony etc) and Mangal doesn't like it at all. > > > > Best wishes, > > Sourav > > ================================================================== > > , "Tarun Agarwal" <tarun.virgo > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Visti ji & Rafal ji > > > > > > as it is said venus bad in 12th house for males, as venus is female > > for the > > > boys, and so is mars a male for the girls, > > > > > > it is said that venus in 12th makes one to loss in love life., so > > shall we > > > consider the same in case of mars in 12th house for girls. > > > > > > Thanks and regards > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > On 7 > > Caller tones: Replace your ring tone with your favourite sound clip!<http://au.rd./mail/tag/callertones/SIG=126ar4ut7/**http%3A%2F%2Fcallertones.7.mnetcorporation.com%2Fctonesinsider> > > > > > ------------------------------ > On 7 > Music: Create your own personalised radio station.<http://au.rd./mail/tag/music/**http%3A%2F%2Fau.launch.%2F> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 || Hare Raama Krsna || Dear Tarun and Jim, namaskar. There is really no cause of fighting. Please worship Lord Naaraayana, the One who is Omnipresent and present in each of your hearts. Offer namaskar to each other and let us forget this mistake. Best wishes, Sourav ================================================================ , "Tarun Agarwal" <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Dear Jim, > > I am not fighting with you, and so please dont use my words so much > personally, > but i hope Visti ji and other members agree to my reply to you. > Thanks > > > > On 10/9/06, Jim vedicastro_mind wrote: > > > > Am I talking with you? > > I am talking with Guruji , what he says I will do that. > > You try hard more next time to get your answers. > > > > Kind Regards, > > Jim > > > > > > *Tarun Agarwal tarun.virgo* wrote: > > > > hello Jim, > > > > > > dear please start a new thread if you have another questions , i request > > you not to disturb the directions of already commencing threads. > > > > > > Thanks > > Tarun > > > > > > On 10/9/06, Jim vedicastro_mind wrote: > > > > > > Dear Guruji, > > > Sadar Pranaam, > > > > > > Is that case Venus when afflicted by malefic or node may delay marriage > > > in males and females?? > > > > > > Guruji , one more question , I hope I am not irritating you , does > > > neecha signifies sign of debiliation or something else(inmical house). > > > > > > I have one chart where girl has Libra Lagna with lagna lord in 9th house > > > of gemini but 10th house occupied by Mercury and rahu , so Rahu afflicts LL > > > so she tries bad ways to get her work done?? > > > also malefics in 12th , Mars and Saturn delaying her marriage, > > > she is 26 but still not married , I hope you are Indian?? , In India we > > > have some range of age 21-24 of girls getting married. > > > > > > Also in many girls chart this venus is afflicted either by node or > > > aspect from saturn. > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > Jim. > > > > > > > > > *Sourav souravc108* wrote: > > > > > > *|| Hare Raama Krsna ||* > > > Dear Tarun, > > > namaskar. No Sukra is significator of > > > marriage and relationships (jala tattva) for both male and female. Hence its > > > position in the 12-th house especially in the Navaamsa is bad for > > > relationships. Mangal is not related to this concept. Infact, Mangal's MKS > > > is 7th house (relationships, harmony etc) and Mangal doesn't like it at all. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Sourav > > > ================================================================== > > > , "Tarun Agarwal" tarun.virgo@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Visti ji & Rafal ji > > > > > > > > as it is said venus bad in 12th house for males, as venus is female > > > for the > > > > boys, and so is mars a male for the girls, > > > > > > > > it is said that venus in 12th makes one to loss in love life., so > > > shall we > > > > consider the same in case of mars in 12th house for girls. > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > On 7 > > > Caller tones: Replace your ring tone with your favourite sound clip!<http://au.rd./mail/tag/callertones/SIG=126ar4ut7/**http%3\ A%2F%2Fcallertones.7.mnetcorporation.com%2Fctonesinsider> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > On 7 > > Music: Create your own personalised radio station.<http://au.rd./mail/tag/music/**http%3A%2F%2Fau.launch.\ %2F> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 || Hare Raama Krsna || Dear Jim, namaskar. Let us not discuss someones supposedly bad tendencies, when we are not required to. It serves no purpose. Holy Mother Sri Saarada Maataa used to say that if we talk about other's faults, it means we have those faults within us and we strengthen those faults. However for the sake of Jyotisha discussion with the name of Lord Surya, I write a few lines. For Libra Lagna, lagna lord is in 9th house showing strong independance in character and also dharmic. This also indicates ill fortune with relationship with father but good fortune as far as childrens are concerned when/if she will become mother. 9th lord is in the 10th with Rahu and can show misguidance from elders as Rahu is strong in Karka rasi and afflicts Budha. Mangal and Sani in the 12-th aspecting Paakalagna also indicates some misguidance. Sani Mangala yoga in the 12-th is inauspicious due to disturbances in sleep/rest and meditation. Further these are in the 8th from Arudha Lagna. In today's India 26 years is not too old for marriage. She will be fortunate after marriage. Best wishes, Sourav ================================================================ , Jim <vedicastro_mind wrote: > > Dear Guruji, > Sadar Pranaam, > > Is that case Venus when afflicted by malefic or node may delay marriage in males and females?? > > Guruji , one more question , I hope I am not irritating you , does neecha signifies sign of debiliation or something else(inmical house). > > I have one chart where girl has Libra Lagna with lagna lord in 9th house of gemini but 10th house occupied by Mercury and rahu , so Rahu afflicts LL so she tries bad ways to get her work done?? > also malefics in 12th , Mars and Saturn delaying her marriage, > she is 26 but still not married , I hope you are Indian?? , In India we have some range of age 21-24 of girls getting married. > > Also in many girls chart this venus is afflicted either by node or aspect from saturn. > > Best Wishes, > Jim. > > > Sourav souravc108 wrote: > || Hare Raama Krsna || > Dear Tarun, > namaskar. No Sukra is significator of marriage and relationships (jala tattva) for both male and female. Hence its position in the 12-th house especially in the Navaamsa is bad for relationships. Mangal is not related to this concept. Infact, Mangal's MKS is 7th house (relationships, harmony etc) and Mangal doesn't like it at all. > Best wishes, > Sourav > ================================================================== > , "Tarun Agarwal" tarun.virgo@ wrote: > > > > Dear Visti ji & Rafal ji > > > > as it is said venus bad in 12th house for males, as venus is female for the > > boys, and so is mars a male for the girls, > > > > it is said that venus in 12th makes one to loss in love life., so shall we > > consider the same in case of mars in 12th house for girls. > > > > Thanks and regards > > Tarun > > > On 7 > Caller tones: Replace your ring tone with your favourite sound clip! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Dear Sourav ji, Namaskar I am calm from my side. Warm Regards Tarun Agarwal On 10/9/06, Sourav <souravc108 > wrote: > > *|| Hare Raama Krsna ||* > > Dear Tarun and Jim, > > namaskar. There is really no > cause of fighting. Please worship Lord Naaraayana, the One who is > Omnipresent and present in each of your hearts. Offer namaskar to each other > and let us forget this mistake. > > Best wishes, > > Sourav > > ================================================================ > , "Tarun Agarwal" <tarun.virgo > wrote: > > > > Dear Jim, > > > > I am not fighting with you, and so please dont use my words so much > > personally, > > but i hope Visti ji and other members agree to my reply to you. > > Thanks > > > > > > > > On 10/9/06, Jim vedicastro_mind wrote: > > > > > > Am I talking with you? > > > I am talking with Guruji , what he says I will do that. > > > You try hard more next time to get your answers. > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > *Tarun Agarwal tarun.virgo* wrote: > > > > > > hello Jim, > > > > > > > > > dear please start a new thread if you have another questions , i > request > > > you not to disturb the directions of already commencing threads. > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > On 10/9/06, Jim vedicastro_mind wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Guruji, > > > > Sadar Pranaam, > > > > > > > > Is that case Venus when afflicted by malefic or node may delay > marriage > > > > in males and females?? > > > > > > > > Guruji , one more question , I hope I am not irritating you , does > > > > neecha signifies sign of debiliation or something else(inmical > house). > > > > > > > > I have one chart where girl has Libra Lagna with lagna lord in 9th > house > > > > of gemini but 10th house occupied by Mercury and rahu , so Rahu > afflicts LL > > > > so she tries bad ways to get her work done?? > > > > also malefics in 12th , Mars and Saturn delaying her marriage, > > > > she is 26 but still not married , I hope you are Indian?? , In India > we > > > > have some range of age 21-24 of girls getting married. > > > > > > > > Also in many girls chart this venus is afflicted either by node or > > > > aspect from saturn. > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Jim. > > > > > > > > > > > > *Sourav souravc108* wrote: > > > > > > > > *|| Hare Raama Krsna ||* > > > > Dear Tarun, > > > > namaskar. No Sukra is significator of > > > > marriage and relationships (jala tattva) for both male and female. > Hence its > > > > position in the 12-th house especially in the Navaamsa is bad for > > > > relationships. Mangal is not related to this concept. Infact, > Mangal's MKS > > > > is 7th house (relationships, harmony etc) and Mangal doesn't like it > at all. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Sourav > > > > ================================================================== > > > > , "Tarun Agarwal" tarun.virgo@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti ji & Rafal ji > > > > > > > > > > as it is said venus bad in 12th house for males, as venus is > female > > > > for the > > > > > boys, and so is mars a male for the girls, > > > > > > > > > > it is said that venus in 12th makes one to loss in love life., so > > > > shall we > > > > > consider the same in case of mars in 12th house for girls. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > On 7 > > > > Caller tones: Replace your ring tone with your favourite sound > clip!<http://au.rd./ > mail/tag/callertones/SIG=126ar4ut7/**http%3A%2F%2Fcallertones.7.mnetcorporation.com%2Fctonesinsider> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > On 7 > > > Music: Create your own personalised radio station.<http://au.rd. > /mail/tag/music/**http%3A%2F%2Fau.launch.%2F> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 Dear Guruji, Sadar Pranaam, Ok , I agree to you , I will pray to god more for having more control on tongue, I take my words back if anybody has got hurted. Kind Regards, Jim Sourav <souravc108 > wrote: || Hare Raama Krsna || Dear Tarun and Jim, namaskar. There is really no cause of fighting. Please worship Lord Naaraayana, the One who is Omnipresent and present in each of your hearts. Offer namaskar to each other and let us forget this mistake. Best wishes, Sourav ================================================================ , "Tarun Agarwal" <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Dear Jim, > > I am not fighting with you, and so please dont use my words so much > personally, > but i hope Visti ji and other members agree to my reply to you. > Thanks > > > > On 10/9/06, Jim vedicastro_mind wrote: > > > > Am I talking with you? > > I am talking with Guruji , what he says I will do that. > > You try hard more next time to get your answers. > > > > Kind Regards, > > Jim > > > > > > *Tarun Agarwal tarun.virgo* wrote: > > > > hello Jim, > > > > > > dear please start a new thread if you have another questions , i request > > you not to disturb the directions of already commencing threads. > > > > > > Thanks > > Tarun > > > > > > On 10/9/06, Jim vedicastro_mind wrote: > > > > > > Dear Guruji, > > > Sadar Pranaam, > > > > > > Is that case Venus when afflicted by malefic or node may delay marriage > > > in males and females?? > > > > > > Guruji , one more question , I hope I am not irritating you , does > > > neecha signifies sign of debiliation or something else(inmical house). > > > > > > I have one chart where girl has Libra Lagna with lagna lord in 9th house > > > of gemini but 10th house occupied by Mercury and rahu , so Rahu afflicts LL > > > so she tries bad ways to get her work done?? > > > also malefics in 12th , Mars and Saturn delaying her marriage, > > > she is 26 but still not married , I hope you are Indian?? , In India we > > > have some range of age 21-24 of girls getting married. > > > > > > Also in many girls chart this venus is afflicted either by node or > > > aspect from saturn. > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > Jim. > > > > > > > > > *Sourav souravc108* wrote: > > > > > > *|| Hare Raama Krsna ||* > > > Dear Tarun, > > > namaskar. No Sukra is significator of > > > marriage and relationships (jala tattva) for both male and female. Hence its > > > position in the 12-th house especially in the Navaamsa is bad for > > > relationships. Mangal is not related to this concept. Infact, Mangal's MKS > > > is 7th house (relationships, harmony etc) and Mangal doesn't like it at all. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Sourav > > > ================================================================== > > > , "Tarun Agarwal" tarun.virgo@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Visti ji & Rafal ji > > > > > > > > as it is said venus bad in 12th house for males, as venus is female > > > for the > > > > boys, and so is mars a male for the girls, > > > > > > > > it is said that venus in 12th makes one to loss in love life., so > > > shall we > > > > consider the same in case of mars in 12th house for girls. > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > On 7 > > > Caller tones: Replace your ring tone with your favourite sound clip!<http://au.rd./mail/tag/callertones/SIG=126ar4ut7/**http%3A%2F%2Fcallertones.7.mnetcorporation.com%2Fctonesinsider> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > On 7 > > Music: Create your own personalised radio station.<http://au.rd./mail/tag/music/**http%3A%2F%2Fau.launch.%2F> > > > > > > > On 7 Fuel Price Watch: Find the cheapest petrol in your area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 Dear Guruji, Sadar Pranaam, Sorry for my misbehaviour. I understood in totality and nutshell some aspects of chart. Thanks once again. Best Wishes, Jim. Sourav <souravc108 > wrote: || Hare Raama Krsna || Dear Jim, namaskar. Let us not discuss someones supposedly bad tendencies, when we are not required to. It serves no purpose. Holy Mother Sri Saarada Maataa used to say that if we talk about other's faults, it means we have those faults within us and we strengthen those faults. However for the sake of Jyotisha discussion with the name of Lord Surya, I write a few lines. For Libra Lagna, lagna lord is in 9th house showing strong independance in character and also dharmic. This also indicates ill fortune with relationship with father but good fortune as far as childrens are concerned when/if she will become mother. 9th lord is in the 10th with Rahu and can show misguidance from elders as Rahu is strong in Karka rasi and afflicts Budha. Mangal and Sani in the 12-th aspecting Paakalagna also indicates some misguidance. Sani Mangala yoga in the 12-th is inauspicious due to disturbances in sleep/rest and meditation. Further these are in the 8th from Arudha Lagna. In today's India 26 years is not too old for marriage. She will be fortunate after marriage. Best wishes, Sourav ================================================================ , Jim <vedicastro_mind wrote: > > Dear Guruji, > Sadar Pranaam, > > Is that case Venus when afflicted by malefic or node may delay marriage in males and females?? > > Guruji , one more question , I hope I am not irritating you , does neecha signifies sign of debiliation or something else(inmical house). > > I have one chart where girl has Libra Lagna with lagna lord in 9th house of gemini but 10th house occupied by Mercury and rahu , so Rahu afflicts LL so she tries bad ways to get her work done?? > also malefics in 12th , Mars and Saturn delaying her marriage, > she is 26 but still not married , I hope you are Indian?? , In India we have some range of age 21-24 of girls getting married. > > Also in many girls chart this venus is afflicted either by node or aspect from saturn. > > Best Wishes, > Jim. > > > Sourav souravc108 wrote: > || Hare Raama Krsna || > Dear Tarun, > namaskar. No Sukra is significator of marriage and relationships (jala tattva) for both male and female. Hence its position in the 12-th house especially in the Navaamsa is bad for relationships. Mangal is not related to this concept. Infact, Mangal's MKS is 7th house (relationships, harmony etc) and Mangal doesn't like it at all. > Best wishes, > Sourav > ================================================================== > , "Tarun Agarwal" tarun.virgo@ wrote: > > > > Dear Visti ji & Rafal ji > > > > as it is said venus bad in 12th house for males, as venus is female for the > > boys, and so is mars a male for the girls, > > > > it is said that venus in 12th makes one to loss in love life., so shall we > > consider the same in case of mars in 12th house for girls. > > > > Thanks and regards > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > On 7 > Caller tones: Replace your ring tone with your favourite sound clip! > On 7 Photos: Unlimited free storage – keep all your photos in one place! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 || Hare Rama Krishna || Dear Ashish, Namaskar I meant to try and answer this query a while back, but have been delayed. In case you're still waiting for an answer, here is my analysis derived with the help of my Guruji. Both Rishabh and Roma are on their second upapadas (determined from prasna, attached). First let me look at his chart. UL2 is Taurus housing Rahu - so it's on the nodal axis which means that he can get stuck in this relationship for 3 years or so, before deciding to go one way or the other, which is indeed the case. The 7th house from the upapada houses Jupiter and Ketu, and these are also aspecting the badhaka, so this indicates that elders and caste issues respectively are causing obstruction to the marriage. UL lord Venus is ill placed in the 8th house, which is not good for the chances of marriage - but it could promote a secret ceremony. In Roma's chart, the situation is not so good either. Her UL2 is Capricorn. Ketu is in the badhaka from there, showing that caste again can be a problem. Whilst the lord Saturn is exalted in Rasi, he is debiliated in Navamsa causing rajbhanga yoga. So this marriage would have ill effects on the groom's family in particular. The prasna also indicates that both partners are not thinking very clearly about the whole issue, and could end up doing something sudden and rash (Lagnesha is in the 6th house with Venus, who is debilitated and afflicted by the nodes). The debilitation of Venus doesn't auger a good outcome of marriage. The best remedy for both would be to perform kumbha vivaha to get over their present troublesome upapadas, and then see where life takes them. I hope that helps - and that things go well for them. Best wishes, Samir At 15:53 10/10/2006, you wrote: >Respected learned members, > My friend is in love > with a girl since last 3 years and the girl too loves him very > much, they want to get married but they have this caste problem , > is it possible to predict that they can get married, below are > their birth details > >Rishabh Tewari >5th oct. 1983 >3:10 pm >Kanpur > >Roma Gupta >3 feb 1984 >10:40 pm >Kanpur > >Thanks and Regards >Ashish > > >Ashish Saxena >SDET >Microsoft India R&D Centre > > >Find out what India is talking about on - ><http://us.rd./mail/in/yanswers/*http://in.answers./> >Answers India >Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version >8. ><http://us.rd./mail/in/messengertagline/*http://in.messenger.>Get >it NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 II Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah II Dear samir , Nameste.I am reading your analysis.I want to learn from you how you arrived at a conclusion Both Rishabh and Roma are on their second upapadas (determined from prasna, attached). How from Prasna you derived it? To me from your prasna chart they should marry within ten days and break soon for Fast moving planet Venus in MKS is debilitated but in ithsala with lord of five(romance).in Six.Of course such question is not asked. I will apprecate your teaching . Thanks. OM TAT SAT R.C.Srivastava ( Consulting Astrologer) Grad in Science , Ayurveda & Telecom Engg. http://www.cosmograce.com http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com Ph 91-562- 2232323 and 4001223 Mob 9412268768 - Samir Shah Wednesday, October 18, 2006 12:28 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Friends marriage problem ( plz reply ) Dear Ashish, Namaskar I meant to try and answer this query a while back, but have been delayed. In case you're still waiting for an answer, here is my analysis derived with the help of my Guruji. Both Rishabh and Roma are on their second upapadas (determined from prasna, attached). First let me look at his chart. UL2 is Taurus housing Rahu - so it's on the nodal axis which means that he can get stuck in this relationship for 3 years or so, before deciding to go one way or the other, which is indeed the case. The 7th house from the upapada houses Jupiter and Ketu, and these are also aspecting the badhaka, so this indicates that elders and caste issues respectively are causing obstruction to the marriage. UL lord Venus is ill placed in the 8th house, which is not good for the chances of marriage - but it could promote a secret ceremony. In Roma's chart, the situation is not so good either. Her UL2 is Capricorn. Ketu is in the badhaka from there, showing that caste again can be a problem. Whilst the lord Saturn is exalted in Rasi, he is debiliated in Navamsa causing rajbhanga yoga. So this marriage would have ill effects on the groom's family in particular. The prasna also indicates that both partners are not thinking very clearly about the whole issue, and could end up doing something sudden and rash (Lagnesha is in the 6th house with Venus, who is debilitated and afflicted by the nodes). The debilitation of Venus doesn't auger a good outcome of marriage. The best remedy for both would be to perform kumbha vivaha to get over their present troublesome upapadas, and then see where life takes them.. I hope that helps - and that things go well for them. Best wishes, Samir At 15:53 10/10/2006, you wrote: Respected learned members, My friend is in love with a girl since last 3 years and the girl too loves him very much, they want to get married but they have this caste problem , is it possible to predict that they can get married, below are their birth details Rishabh Tewari 5th oct. 1983 3:10 pm Kanpur Roma Gupta 3 feb 1984 10:40 pm Kanpur Thanks and Regards Ashish Ashish Saxena SDET Microsoft India R&D Centre Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 || Hare Rama Krishna || Dear Swami, Namaskar My Guruji taught me that in prasna, the upapada in the rasi chakra will show the upapada that the native is currently experiencing, while the upapada in navamsa will show the past upapadas of the native - in the case of Rishabh you will see that the prasna rasi upapada matches his UL2. Actually the prasna was only for him. But I was studying both charts with Vistiji and he said that she too must be on the second upapada, as this is the one that indicates obstruction due to problems like caste. The first upapada for her would not have manifested because its lord is in marana karaka sthana. Vistiji explained to me that the debilitation of Venus and it's affliction by the nodes indicated that the two were not thinking clearly about the whole issue, and that there was a chance that they would do something rash, like eloping - so this agrees somewhat with what you said. But the weakness of Venus means that the outcome of this would not be good, and hence the advice of kumbha vivaha for both of them. I hope this helps. My explanation is limited by my own understanding. Best wishes, Samir At 12:16 18/10/2006, you wrote: > > II Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah II > >Dear samir , >Nameste.I am reading your analysis.I want to learn from you how you >arrived at a conclusion Both Rishabh and Roma are on their second >upapadas (determined from prasna, attached). >How from Prasna you derived it? >To me from your prasna chart they should marry within ten days and >break soon for Fast moving planet Venus in MKS is debilitated but in >ithsala with lord of five(romance).in Six.Of course such question is not asked. >I will apprecate your teaching . >Thanks. > > > > >OM TAT SAT >R.C.Srivastava ( Consulting Astrologer) >Grad in Science , Ayurveda & Telecom Engg. ><http://www.cosmograce.com>http://www.cosmograce.com >http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com >Ph 91-562- 2232323 and 4001223 >Mob 9412268768 > > >- ><solaris.smoke >Samir Shah ><> >Wednesday, October 18, 2006 12:28 AM >Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Friends marriage problem ( plz reply ) > >|| Hare Rama Krishna || > > >Dear Ashish, Namaskar > >I meant to try and answer this query a while back, but have been >delayed. In case you're still waiting for an answer, here is my >analysis derived with the help of my Guruji. > >Both Rishabh and Roma are on their second upapadas (determined from >prasna, attached). First let me look at his chart. UL2 is Taurus >housing Rahu - so it's on the nodal axis which means that he can get >stuck in this relationship for 3 years or so, before deciding to go >one way or the other, which is indeed the case. The 7th house from >the upapada houses Jupiter and Ketu, and these are also aspecting >the badhaka, so this indicates that elders and caste issues >respectively are causing obstruction to the marriage. UL lord Venus >is ill placed in the 8th house, which is not good for the chances of >marriage - but it could promote a secret ceremony. > >In Roma's chart, the situation is not so good either. Her UL2 is >Capricorn. Ketu is in the badhaka from there, showing that caste >again can be a problem. Whilst the lord Saturn is exalted in Rasi, >he is debiliated in Navamsa causing rajbhanga yoga. So this >marriage would have ill effects on the groom's family in particular. > >The prasna also indicates that both partners are not thinking very >clearly about the whole issue, and could end up doing something >sudden and rash (Lagnesha is in the 6th house with Venus, who is >debilitated and afflicted by the nodes). The debilitation of Venus >doesn't auger a good outcome of marriage. The best remedy for both >would be to perform kumbha vivaha to get over their present >troublesome upapadas, and then see where life takes them. > >I hope that helps - and that things go well for them. > >Best wishes, > >Samir > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 II Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah II Dear Samir, My question is very nicely explained by you. You are lucky to have a guru like Visti.I am grateful for sharing the teaching.I have occassion to apply these teachings as to day itself i have four cases of the nature of outcome of romance. Thank you once again and pranam to your Guru.BTW is Visti in UK these days? OM TAT SAT R.C.Srivastava ( Consulting Astrologer) Grad in Science , Ayurveda & Telecom Engg. http://www.cosmograce.com http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com - Samir Shah Thursday, October 19, 2006 1:54 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Friends marriage problem ( plz reply ) Dear Swami, Namaskar My Guruji taught me that in prasna, the upapada in the rasi chakra will show the upapada that the native is currently experiencing, while the upapada in navamsa will show the past upapadas of the native - in the case of Rishabh you will see that the prasna rasi upapada matches his UL2. Actually the prasna was only for him. But I was studying both charts with Vistiji and he said that she too must be on the second upapada, as this is the one that indicates obstruction due to problems like caste. The first upapada for her would not have manifested because its lord is in marana karaka sthana. Vistiji explained to me that the debilitation of Venus and it's affliction by the nodes indicated that the two were not thinking clearly about the whole issue, and that there was a chance that they would do something rash, like eloping - so this agrees somewhat with what you said. But the weakness of Venus means that the outcome of this would not be good, and hence the advice of kumbha vivaha for both of them. I hope this helps. My explanation is limited by my own understanding. Best wishes, Samir At 12:16 18/10/2006, you wrote: II Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah II Dear samir , Nameste.I am reading your analysis.I want to learn from you how you arrived at a conclusion Both Rishabh and Roma are on their second upapadas (determined from prasna, attached). How from Prasna you derived it? To me from your prasna chart they should marry within ten days and break soon for Fast moving planet Venus in MKS is debilitated but in ithsala with lord of five(romance).in Six.Of course such question is not asked. I will apprecate your teaching . Thanks. OM TAT SAT R.C.Srivastava ( Consulting Astrologer) Grad in Science , Ayurveda & Telecom Engg. http://www.cosmograce.com http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com Ph 91-562- 2232323 and 4001223 Mob 9412268768 - Samir Shah Wednesday, October 18, 2006 12:28 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Friends marriage problem ( plz reply ) Dear Ashish, Namaskar I meant to try and answer this query a while back, but have been delayed. In case you're still waiting for an answer, here is my analysis derived with the help of my Guruji. Both Rishabh and Roma are on their second upapadas (determined from prasna, attached). First let me look at his chart. UL2 is Taurus housing Rahu - so it's on the nodal axis which means that he can get stuck in this relationship for 3 years or so, before deciding to go one way or the other, which is indeed the case. The 7th house from the upapada houses Jupiter and Ketu, and these are also aspecting the badhaka, so this indicates that elders and caste issues respectively are causing obstruction to the marriage. UL lord Venus is ill placed in the 8th house, which is not good for the chances of marriage - but it could promote a secret ceremony. In Roma's chart, the situation is not so good either. Her UL2 is Capricorn. Ketu is in the badhaka from there, showing that caste again can be a problem. Whilst the lord Saturn is exalted in Rasi, he is debiliated in Navamsa causing rajbhanga yoga. So this marriage would have ill effects on the groom's family in particular. The prasna also indicates that both partners are not thinking very clearly about the whole issue, and could end up doing something sudden and rash (Lagnesha is in the 6th house with Venus, who is debilitated and afflicted by the nodes). The debilitation of Venus doesn't auger a good outcome of marriage. The best remedy for both would be to perform kumbha vivaha to get over their present troublesome upapadas, and then see where life takes them. I hope that helps - and that things go well for them. Best wishes, Samir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 || Hare Rama Krishna || Dear Ashish, Namaskar I do not know a lot about the rites involved, but basically kumbha vivaha is when a person is ceremonially married to a pot, and then this marriage is ended. This is said to resolve the karma that was associated with the person's current upapada (which in this case indicates some suffering to both partners). Then they move onto the next upapada. Based on her chart, the UL lord (groom's family) is exalted but received raj-bhanga because of debilitation in Navamsa. This raj-bhanga would be felt by his family should they marry. In general it doesn't bode well for the sustenance of the marriage as Saturn is 2nd lord from the upapada also, while Rahu is causing a severe pitri-shaapa. For these reasons kumbha vivaha would be good for both of them, as it will allow them to overcome the troubles indicated by the current upapadas. Best wishes, Samir At 08:19 26/10/2006, you wrote: >Dear Samir, > Thanks a lot 4 ur reply , can u throw an > insight on what this Kumbh Vivah is and what kind of ill effects > can this marriage have on grooms family , it would help in taking rite decision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 || Hare Rama Krishna || Dear Ashish, Namaskar I'm not sure what you mean about the mount if Jupiter... what do you mean by that? Your Jupiter is involved in a curse and Rahu is involved in a papakartari yoga which can cause some bandhana. Assuming you're on your first upapada, which I think you are, then it looks like you will be blessed with a happy marriage. UL has a strong Sun and Venus indicating an intelligent spouse coming from a good family. 2nd from UL has exalted Mercury who is well placed to sustain the marriage. One small concern might be the AL/UL placement which indicates a tendency for you to ignore your spouse. Fasting on Sundays will help this. I think there's a very strong chance of marriage happening in the next 2 years. Best wishes, Samir At 11:01 26/10/2006, you wrote: >Thanks a lot Samir, will surely enquire about Kumbh Vivah, on a same >talk but I would like to question my case, one astrologer told me >that my married life also won't be that good but I have a cross on >Mount of Jupiter which means gud marriage lief, can you plz throw an >insight on my marriage and my partner , I would be highly obliged > >Ashish Saxena >20-08-1983 >3:12 AM >Chandigarh, India > >Thanks and Regards >Ashish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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