What makes nativities/clients jump ship when it comes to readings!

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Dear Rohini Ranjan ji,

 

I think clients jump ship when it comes to readings is because it's human

nature first which is never satisfied and secondly the answer given is

confusing. Say as for me, I am from Nepal, and I have consulted few

astrologers here on paid basis. But all of them had different versions and

no one was specific. So I have tried to get answers from learned astrologers

from India by posting in some of the . And 2-3 people who have

replied me also had different versions. My query was as follows:

 

Currently, I am working in a private insurance company in Nepal but I would

like to change my job or start a new business because the current job is

mentally and physically not satisfying to me. I have been looking for

another job for a long time and hasn't been successful yet. I have to look

after my mom and younger sister so I can't go to foreign country also. I

want to be established in my home country. If change is there for me, when

will it be and which career path shall I follow? Will it be another job or

start a new business? Which field is best for me and if I start a business,

is partnership OK for me or not?

 

My mom wants me to get married but I am not interested right now coz I

haven't been established successfully in my career path and also I don't

know what kind of girl she will be. About my marriage, when will it take

place? Will it be arranged or love marriage? And what kind of girl will she

be?

 

And like to know about my health also? How will it be in my future? (My

father died of bone cancer in 2001 and younger sister died of Encephalitis

in 2005). I am going through lot of mental and physical ups and downs.

 

Is there foreign travel or foreign settlement for me? I have only travelled

once to India in 2001 only. If so, when and where? (However, I prefer

settling in my own country but love to travel for pleasure and work.)

 

Date of Birth: 12 January, 1976

Time of Birth: 11:05 AM NST (10:50 AM IST)

Place of Birth: Kathmandu, Nepal

 

The answers I got was like for my career, some say I will change career

right after my birthday, some said after few years, and some say I will not.

What I wanted to know was whether I will change my career and if so, which

time (month or year) and which field will I choose. Similarly for my

marriage, one said I will marry in Feb./Mar. of 2007, one said in 2009,

other said 2010. For health, some suggested me to wear Tourmaline, some to

enhance Mars, some to wear Garnet, some cat's eye, etc. For foreign travel,

one said that I will settle in foreign country after 2007, one said I will

not settle but chance of visting foreign countries for pleasure, one said I

will not travel to foreign country and one said there may be chance in

future. But nobody was specific and all conflicting.

 

So when people get different answers without any specific answers, then it

urges people to seek help from others expecting the next one may be specific

and solve the problems. Maybe, my urge to seek answers specifically has

chosen you for the answers to my questions, if you could guide me properly.

 

Regards,

Rajan

 

 

 

 

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Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:51 pm (PST)

 

Dear Banshiji,

 

After reading Kumar ji's posting, I am beginning to wonder if you

might have possibly thought that I was criticizing those other

astrologers that may have read for you in the past. I must clarify

that no that was not (never has been -- no matter what they tell

you!) my intent ;-)

 

I was and am sincerely trying to fathom the following things:

 

What is it that makes a client (paying or otherwise) go for a second

opinion after receiving their first astrological reading?

 

If failure of the first reading, after waiting out the period of

prediction, generally months to years (!) then that is absolutely

legitimate.

 

But if it happens before the reading/prediction period has run out

then, is it because:

= The astrologer was unimpressive and unconvincing?

 

= The reading experience was not what the client fantasized and

expected?

 

= Was the reading fine but the astrologer not? As in too

uncommunicative, difficult to understand, other reasons?

 

Hopefully you will share your experiences without naming names! And

others too who have suffered similar situations!

 

RR

 

<%40>

, "Rohiniranjan"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Dear Banshiji,

>

> I am sorry to hear that different astrologers gave you different

> interpretation, but I am curious about one thing. After receiving

> your reading from the first astrologer, why did you go to the

second

> one?

>

> Please share if you do not mind. I am always curious about the

mental

> process that makes us go seek a reading.

>

> RR

>

>

> <%40>

, "BANSHI AGARWAL"

> <banshi1206@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Swamiji,

> >

> >

> >

> > I have been confused by the astrologers about the outcome in

> jupiter

> > maha dasa..My dBirthday details are as follows:

> >

> > DOB:12TH JUNE 1971

> > TIME:13:45 HRS

> > PLACE: KOLKATA,INDIA

> >

> > Currently i m running Rahu-Mars period & on 5-12-2006 jupiter

maha

> > dasa will start.Some astrologers are saying that it will be the

> > worst period of my life because jupiter has kendraadhipati

> > dosa,maraka & its placement in 3rd house very bad.So i should do

a

> > lot of remedies in this dasa.

> > Some astrolgers are saying that it will be the best period of my

> > life because jupiter is most beneficial planet as well as karaka

> for

> > wealth.It doesnt have kendraadhipati dosa because it is not

> situated

> > in kendra,again it has great power due to his placement in his

most

> > friendly & exalted planet mars house.Again it aspects on

> > 7th,9th,11th so it will be the best time.

> >

> > I m very confused Swamiji,will you please help me to solve this

> > puzzle.

> >

> > Banshidhar Agarwal

> > 98300 72369

> >

>

 

 

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That is better! I will try to help if I can, Malia ji.

 

RR

 

, "Rajan S. Malla" <rajan

wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini Ranjan ji,

>

> I think clients jump ship when it comes to readings is because it's

human

> nature first which is never satisfied and secondly the answer given

is

> confusing. Say as for me, I am from Nepal, and I have consulted few

> astrologers here on paid basis. But all of them had different

versions and

> no one was specific. So I have tried to get answers from learned

astrologers

> from India by posting in some of the . And 2-3 people

who have

> replied me also had different versions. My query was as follows:

>

> Currently, I am working in a private insurance company in Nepal but

I would

> like to change my job or start a new business because the current

job is

> mentally and physically not satisfying to me. I have been looking

for

> another job for a long time and hasn't been successful yet. I have

to look

> after my mom and younger sister so I can't go to foreign country

also. I

> want to be established in my home country. If change is there for

me, when

> will it be and which career path shall I follow? Will it be another

job or

> start a new business? Which field is best for me and if I start a

business,

> is partnership OK for me or not?

>

> My mom wants me to get married but I am not interested right now

coz I

> haven't been established successfully in my career path and also I

don't

> know what kind of girl she will be. About my marriage, when will it

take

> place? Will it be arranged or love marriage? And what kind of girl

will she

> be?

>

> And like to know about my health also? How will it be in my future?

(My

> father died of bone cancer in 2001 and younger sister died of

Encephalitis

> in 2005). I am going through lot of mental and physical ups and

downs.

>

> Is there foreign travel or foreign settlement for me? I have only

travelled

> once to India in 2001 only. If so, when and where? (However, I

prefer

> settling in my own country but love to travel for pleasure and

work.)

>

> Date of Birth: 12 January, 1976

> Time of Birth: 11:05 AM NST (10:50 AM IST)

> Place of Birth: Kathmandu, Nepal

>

> The answers I got was like for my career, some say I will change

career

> right after my birthday, some said after few years, and some say I

will not.

> What I wanted to know was whether I will change my career and if

so, which

> time (month or year) and which field will I choose. Similarly for my

> marriage, one said I will marry in Feb./Mar. of 2007, one said in

2009,

> other said 2010. For health, some suggested me to wear Tourmaline,

some to

> enhance Mars, some to wear Garnet, some cat's eye, etc. For foreign

travel,

> one said that I will settle in foreign country after 2007, one said

I will

> not settle but chance of visting foreign countries for pleasure,

one said I

> will not travel to foreign country and one said there may be chance

in

> future. But nobody was specific and all conflicting.

>

> So when people get different answers without any specific answers,

then it

> urges people to seek help from others expecting the next one may be

specific

> and solve the problems. Maybe, my urge to seek answers specifically

has

> chosen you for the answers to my questions, if you could guide me

properly.

>

> Regards,

> Rajan

>

>

>

>

>

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>

>

> Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:51 pm (PST)

>

> Dear Banshiji,

>

> After reading Kumar ji's posting, I am beginning to wonder if you

> might have possibly thought that I was criticizing those other

> astrologers that may have read for you in the past. I must clarify

> that no that was not (never has been -- no matter what they tell

> you!) my intent ;-)

>

> I was and am sincerely trying to fathom the following things:

>

> What is it that makes a client (paying or otherwise) go for a

second

> opinion after receiving their first astrological reading?

>

> If failure of the first reading, after waiting out the period of

> prediction, generally months to years (!) then that is absolutely

> legitimate.

>

> But if it happens before the reading/prediction period has run out

> then, is it because:

> = The astrologer was unimpressive and unconvincing?

>

> = The reading experience was not what the client fantasized and

> expected?

>

> = Was the reading fine but the astrologer not? As in too

> uncommunicative, difficult to understand, other reasons?

>

> Hopefully you will share your experiences without naming names! And

> others too who have suffered similar situations!

>

> RR

>

> <%40>

> , "Rohiniranjan"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Banshiji,

> >

> > I am sorry to hear that different astrologers gave you different

> > interpretation, but I am curious about one thing. After receiving

> > your reading from the first astrologer, why did you go to the

> second

> > one?

> >

> > Please share if you do not mind. I am always curious about the

> mental

> > process that makes us go seek a reading.

> >

> > RR

> >

> >

> > <%40>

> , "BANSHI AGARWAL"

> > <banshi1206@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Swamiji,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I have been confused by the astrologers about the outcome in

> > jupiter

> > > maha dasa..My dBirthday details are as follows:

> > >

> > > DOB:12TH JUNE 1971

> > > TIME:13:45 HRS

> > > PLACE: KOLKATA,INDIA

> > >

> > > Currently i m running Rahu-Mars period & on 5-12-2006 jupiter

> maha

> > > dasa will start.Some astrologers are saying that it will be the

> > > worst period of my life because jupiter has kendraadhipati

> > > dosa,maraka & its placement in 3rd house very bad.So i should

do

> a

> > > lot of remedies in this dasa.

> > > Some astrolgers are saying that it will be the best period of

my

> > > life because jupiter is most beneficial planet as well as

karaka

> > for

> > > wealth.It doesnt have kendraadhipati dosa because it is not

> > situated

> > > in kendra,again it has great power due to his placement in his

> most

> > > friendly & exalted planet mars house.Again it aspects on

> > > 7th,9th,11th so it will be the best time.

> > >

> > > I m very confused Swamiji,will you please help me to solve this

> > > puzzle.

> > >

> > > Banshidhar Agarwal

> > > 98300 72369

> > >

> >

>

>

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For starters and I am posting this publicly in case others also work

on your chart!

 

In 1976 Nepal was using IST.

Is your recorded time 10:50 or 11:05 AM (recorded time!)

Always when the ducks are moving as in the case of your birthdata it

is wise to also include details about the source of information.

 

It is best to give the actual recorded time always particularly when

the locality is in an area/country with time changes etc. :-)

 

15 minutes is a lot to throw calculations off.

 

RR

 

, "Rajan S. Malla" <rajan

wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini Ranjan ji,

>

> I think clients jump ship when it comes to readings is because it's

human

> nature first which is never satisfied and secondly the answer given

is

> confusing. Say as for me, I am from Nepal, and I have consulted few

> astrologers here on paid basis. But all of them had different

versions and

> no one was specific. So I have tried to get answers from learned

astrologers

> from India by posting in some of the . And 2-3 people

who have

> replied me also had different versions. My query was as follows:

>

> Currently, I am working in a private insurance company in Nepal but

I would

> like to change my job or start a new business because the current

job is

> mentally and physically not satisfying to me. I have been looking

for

> another job for a long time and hasn't been successful yet. I have

to look

> after my mom and younger sister so I can't go to foreign country

also. I

> want to be established in my home country. If change is there for

me, when

> will it be and which career path shall I follow? Will it be another

job or

> start a new business? Which field is best for me and if I start a

business,

> is partnership OK for me or not?

>

> My mom wants me to get married but I am not interested right now

coz I

> haven't been established successfully in my career path and also I

don't

> know what kind of girl she will be. About my marriage, when will it

take

> place? Will it be arranged or love marriage? And what kind of girl

will she

> be?

>

> And like to know about my health also? How will it be in my future?

(My

> father died of bone cancer in 2001 and younger sister died of

Encephalitis

> in 2005). I am going through lot of mental and physical ups and

downs.

>

> Is there foreign travel or foreign settlement for me? I have only

travelled

> once to India in 2001 only. If so, when and where? (However, I

prefer

> settling in my own country but love to travel for pleasure and

work.)

>

> Date of Birth: 12 January, 1976

> Time of Birth: 11:05 AM NST (10:50 AM IST)

> Place of Birth: Kathmandu, Nepal

>

> The answers I got was like for my career, some say I will change

career

> right after my birthday, some said after few years, and some say I

will not.

> What I wanted to know was whether I will change my career and if

so, which

> time (month or year) and which field will I choose. Similarly for my

> marriage, one said I will marry in Feb./Mar. of 2007, one said in

2009,

> other said 2010. For health, some suggested me to wear Tourmaline,

some to

> enhance Mars, some to wear Garnet, some cat's eye, etc. For foreign

travel,

> one said that I will settle in foreign country after 2007, one said

I will

> not settle but chance of visting foreign countries for pleasure,

one said I

> will not travel to foreign country and one said there may be chance

in

> future. But nobody was specific and all conflicting.

>

> So when people get different answers without any specific answers,

then it

> urges people to seek help from others expecting the next one may be

specific

> and solve the problems. Maybe, my urge to seek answers specifically

has

> chosen you for the answers to my questions, if you could guide me

properly.

>

> Regards,

> Rajan

>

>

>

>

>

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> <http://profiles./rohinicrystal> rohinicrystal

>

>

> Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:51 pm (PST)

>

> Dear Banshiji,

>

> After reading Kumar ji's posting, I am beginning to wonder if you

> might have possibly thought that I was criticizing those other

> astrologers that may have read for you in the past. I must clarify

> that no that was not (never has been -- no matter what they tell

> you!) my intent ;-)

>

> I was and am sincerely trying to fathom the following things:

>

> What is it that makes a client (paying or otherwise) go for a

second

> opinion after receiving their first astrological reading?

>

> If failure of the first reading, after waiting out the period of

> prediction, generally months to years (!) then that is absolutely

> legitimate.

>

> But if it happens before the reading/prediction period has run out

> then, is it because:

> = The astrologer was unimpressive and unconvincing?

>

> = The reading experience was not what the client fantasized and

> expected?

>

> = Was the reading fine but the astrologer not? As in too

> uncommunicative, difficult to understand, other reasons?

>

> Hopefully you will share your experiences without naming names! And

> others too who have suffered similar situations!

>

> RR

>

> <%40>

> , "Rohiniranjan"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Banshiji,

> >

> > I am sorry to hear that different astrologers gave you different

> > interpretation, but I am curious about one thing. After receiving

> > your reading from the first astrologer, why did you go to the

> second

> > one?

> >

> > Please share if you do not mind. I am always curious about the

> mental

> > process that makes us go seek a reading.

> >

> > RR

> >

> >

> > <%40>

> , "BANSHI AGARWAL"

> > <banshi1206@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Swamiji,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I have been confused by the astrologers about the outcome in

> > jupiter

> > > maha dasa..My dBirthday details are as follows:

> > >

> > > DOB:12TH JUNE 1971

> > > TIME:13:45 HRS

> > > PLACE: KOLKATA,INDIA

> > >

> > > Currently i m running Rahu-Mars period & on 5-12-2006 jupiter

> maha

> > > dasa will start.Some astrologers are saying that it will be the

> > > worst period of my life because jupiter has kendraadhipati

> > > dosa,maraka & its placement in 3rd house very bad.So i should

do

> a

> > > lot of remedies in this dasa.

> > > Some astrolgers are saying that it will be the best period of

my

> > > life because jupiter is most beneficial planet as well as

karaka

> > for

> > > wealth.It doesnt have kendraadhipati dosa because it is not

> > situated

> > > in kendra,again it has great power due to his placement in his

> most

> > > friendly & exalted planet mars house.Again it aspects on

> > > 7th,9th,11th so it will be the best time.

> > >

> > > I m very confused Swamiji,will you please help me to solve this

> > > puzzle.

> > >

> > > Banshidhar Agarwal

> > > 98300 72369

> > >

> >

>

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I will try again :-)

Read my original posting in this thread and you will see where you

are missing the point in the briefly quoted message below from your

post:

, "Rajan S. Malla" <rajan

wrote:

>

> So when people get different answers without any specific answers,

then it

> urges people to seek help from others expecting the next one may be

specific

> and solve the problems...

 

***********************************

 

Rajan, my question was: What happened after the first reading that

made the person go to the second one, and third and so on!

 

Your disappointment with different readings from different

astrologers is understandable, but the QUESTION is: WHY DID YOU OR

ANYONE GO TO THE NEXT ASTROLOGER AND HOW SOON AFTER THE FIRST

READING? :-)

 

See my point?

 

RR

[Guest guest]

Dear RR ji,

 

Would like to share my personal experience, which may or may not be

typical.

 

The experience of an astrological reading is extremely practitioner

dependent. And also, like you mentioned, we have a pre-conceived

idea in us about how the experience of a reading would be.

 

When I approached an astrologer (on the internet) for the first

time, I expected to get connected, through the astrologer, to a

lifetime message, that is meant for me. If I may say, get connected

to Kaal.

 

The astrologer happened to say exactly what I wanted to hear, but

even then, I did not have the experience that "THIS IS THE MESSAGE".

I am unable to explain why. There was a thirst in me that was not

quenched. I did not have the feeling that I was connected to the

Divine message. Something was missing. It was not the sincerity of

the astrologer. But I had the feeling that maybe he was not after

all passing on or tuning into THE message, if there is anything

called that.

 

Hence I tried again, but half heartedly this time.

 

But I consider myself a very lucky person, in many ways. And I did

finally find the person who gave me the tuning in that I was looking

for. Needless to say, it was NOT, what I wanted to hear, at that

point of time in my life. But I was so satisfied with the experience

that I accepted it. After that I have not had the urge to ask anyone

else for any opinion on my chart.

 

Regards,

Nandini.

 

 

 

 

 

 

, "Rohiniranjan"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> I will try again :-)

> Read my original posting in this thread and you will see where you

> are missing the point in the briefly quoted message below from

your

> post:

> , "Rajan S. Malla" <rajan@>

> wrote:

> >

> > So when people get different answers without any specific

answers,

> then it

> > urges people to seek help from others expecting the next one may

be

> specific

> > and solve the problems...

>

> ***********************************

>

> Rajan, my question was: What happened after the first reading that

> made the person go to the second one, and third and so on!

>

> Your disappointment with different readings from different

> astrologers is understandable, but the QUESTION is: WHY DID YOU OR

> ANYONE GO TO THE NEXT ASTROLOGER AND HOW SOON AFTER THE FIRST

> READING? :-)

>

> See my point?

>

> RR

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Rohiniranjan ji,

 

Time of Birth: 11:05 AM Nepal Standard Time

 

Regards,

Rajan

 

, "Rohiniranjan"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> For starters and I am posting this publicly in case others also

work

> on your chart!

>

> In 1976 Nepal was using IST.

> Is your recorded time 10:50 or 11:05 AM (recorded time!)

> Always when the ducks are moving as in the case of your birthdata

it

> is wise to also include details about the source of information.

>

> It is best to give the actual recorded time always particularly

when

> the locality is in an area/country with time changes etc. :-)

>

> 15 minutes is a lot to throw calculations off.

>

> RR

>

> , "Rajan S. Malla" <rajan@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rohini Ranjan ji,

> >

> > I think clients jump ship when it comes to readings is because

it's

> human

> > nature first which is never satisfied and secondly the answer

given

> is

> > confusing. Say as for me, I am from Nepal, and I have consulted

few

> > astrologers here on paid basis. But all of them had different

> versions and

> > no one was specific. So I have tried to get answers from learned

> astrologers

> > from India by posting in some of the . And 2-3 people

> who have

> > replied me also had different versions. My query was as follows:

> >

> > Currently, I am working in a private insurance company in Nepal

but

> I would

> > like to change my job or start a new business because the

current

> job is

> > mentally and physically not satisfying to me. I have been

looking

> for

> > another job for a long time and hasn't been successful yet. I

have

> to look

> > after my mom and younger sister so I can't go to foreign country

> also. I

> > want to be established in my home country. If change is there

for

> me, when

> > will it be and which career path shall I follow? Will it be

another

> job or

> > start a new business? Which field is best for me and if I start

a

> business,

> > is partnership OK for me or not?

> >

> > My mom wants me to get married but I am not interested right now

> coz I

> > haven't been established successfully in my career path and also

I

> don't

> > know what kind of girl she will be. About my marriage, when will

it

> take

> > place? Will it be arranged or love marriage? And what kind of

girl

> will she

> > be?

> >

> > And like to know about my health also? How will it be in my

future?

> (My

> > father died of bone cancer in 2001 and younger sister died of

> Encephalitis

> > in 2005). I am going through lot of mental and physical ups and

> downs.

> >

> > Is there foreign travel or foreign settlement for me? I have

only

> travelled

> > once to India in 2001 only. If so, when and where? (However, I

> prefer

> > settling in my own country but love to travel for pleasure and

> work.)

> >

> > Date of Birth: 12 January, 1976

> > Time of Birth: 11:05 AM NST (10:50 AM IST)

> > Place of Birth: Kathmandu, Nepal

> >

> > The answers I got was like for my career, some say I will change

> career

> > right after my birthday, some said after few years, and some say

I

> will not.

> > What I wanted to know was whether I will change my career and if

> so, which

> > time (month or year) and which field will I choose. Similarly

for my

> > marriage, one said I will marry in Feb./Mar. of 2007, one said

in

> 2009,

> > other said 2010. For health, some suggested me to wear

Tourmaline,

> some to

> > enhance Mars, some to wear Garnet, some cat's eye, etc. For

foreign

> travel,

> > one said that I will settle in foreign country after 2007, one

said

> I will

> > not settle but chance of visting foreign countries for pleasure,

> one said I

> > will not travel to foreign country and one said there may be

chance

> in

> > future. But nobody was specific and all conflicting.

> >

> > So when people get different answers without any specific

answers,

> then it

> > urges people to seek help from others expecting the next one may

be

> specific

> > and solve the problems. Maybe, my urge to seek answers

specifically

> has

> > chosen you for the answers to my questions, if you could guide

me

> properly.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rajan

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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> > nativities/clients jump ship when it comes to readings!

> >

> >

> > Posted by: "Rohiniranjan" <jyotish_vani@?Subject=Re:

> > What%20makes%20nativities%2Fclients%20jump%20ship%20when%20it%

> 20comes%20to%2

> > 0readings%21> jyotish_vani@

> > <http://profiles./rohinicrystal> rohinicrystal

> >

> >

> > Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:51 pm (PST)

> >

> > Dear Banshiji,

> >

> > After reading Kumar ji's posting, I am beginning to wonder if

you

> > might have possibly thought that I was criticizing those other

> > astrologers that may have read for you in the past. I must

clarify

> > that no that was not (never has been -- no matter what they tell

> > you!) my intent ;-)

> >

> > I was and am sincerely trying to fathom the following things:

> >

> > What is it that makes a client (paying or otherwise) go for a

> second

> > opinion after receiving their first astrological reading?

> >

> > If failure of the first reading, after waiting out the period of

> > prediction, generally months to years (!) then that is

absolutely

> > legitimate.

> >

> > But if it happens before the reading/prediction period has run

out

> > then, is it because:

> > = The astrologer was unimpressive and unconvincing?

> >

> > = The reading experience was not what the client fantasized and

> > expected?

> >

> > = Was the reading fine but the astrologer not? As in too

> > uncommunicative, difficult to understand, other reasons?

> >

> > Hopefully you will share your experiences without naming names!

And

> > others too who have suffered similar situations!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > <%40>

> > , "Rohiniranjan"

> > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Banshiji,

> > >

> > > I am sorry to hear that different astrologers gave you

different

> > > interpretation, but I am curious about one thing. After

receiving

> > > your reading from the first astrologer, why did you go to the

> > second

> > > one?

> > >

> > > Please share if you do not mind. I am always curious about the

> > mental

> > > process that makes us go seek a reading.

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > >

> > > <%40>

> > , "BANSHI AGARWAL"

> > > <banshi1206@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Swamiji,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I have been confused by the astrologers about the outcome in

> > > jupiter

> > > > maha dasa..My dBirthday details are as follows:

> > > >

> > > > DOB:12TH JUNE 1971

> > > > TIME:13:45 HRS

> > > > PLACE: KOLKATA,INDIA

> > > >

> > > > Currently i m running Rahu-Mars period & on 5-12-2006

jupiter

> > maha

> > > > dasa will start.Some astrologers are saying that it will be

the

> > > > worst period of my life because jupiter has kendraadhipati

> > > > dosa,maraka & its placement in 3rd house very bad.So i

should

> do

> > a

> > > > lot of remedies in this dasa.

> > > > Some astrolgers are saying that it will be the best period

of

> my

> > > > life because jupiter is most beneficial planet as well as

> karaka

> > > for

> > > > wealth.It doesnt have kendraadhipati dosa because it is not

> > > situated

> > > > in kendra,again it has great power due to his placement in

his

> > most

> > > > friendly & exalted planet mars house.Again it aspects on

> > > > 7th,9th,11th so it will be the best time.

> > > >

> > > > I m very confused Swamiji,will you please help me to solve

this

> > > > puzzle.

> > > >

> > > > Banshidhar Agarwal

> > > > 98300 72369

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Dear Rohiniranjan ji,

 

For myself, I went to another astrologer only after the prediction

given by first astrologer for a specific question didn't happen or

go against the prediction. As a human nature, we seek remedies or

answers for problems in our life until we get some satisfaction or

right answer. My expereince with astrologers or even tantriks was

immense last year when my sister was admitted in hospital and she

was in coma. I consulted many of them and each one gave me specific

duration of time when some result will show off but invain. This

tend me to next one and same thing happened again and again. Maybe

only for my sister's well-being, I consulted about 5-6 learned ones

and I think 4 of them said that she will live but she died.

 

Regards

Rajan

 

, "Rohiniranjan"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> I will try again :-)

> Read my original posting in this thread and you will see where you

> are missing the point in the briefly quoted message below from

your

> post:

> , "Rajan S. Malla" <rajan@>

> wrote:

> >

> > So when people get different answers without any specific

answers,

> then it

> > urges people to seek help from others expecting the next one may

be

> specific

> > and solve the problems...

>

> ***********************************

>

> Rajan, my question was: What happened after the first reading that

> made the person go to the second one, and third and so on!

>

> Your disappointment with different readings from different

> astrologers is understandable, but the QUESTION is: WHY DID YOU OR

> ANYONE GO TO THE NEXT ASTROLOGER AND HOW SOON AFTER THE FIRST

> READING? :-)

>

> See my point?

>

> RR

>

[Guest guest]

But Nepal Standard Time was not even in effect in 1976!

 

Let me repeat! If you are serious, you must tell me the source of

birthdata. Is it from a verbal account (parent's recollection) or a

family diary or record? What were the numbers representing the time

recorded there? 11:05 or 10:50?

 

Please respond seriously and give full information.

 

RR

 

, "prakriti_the_nature"

<rajan wrote:

>

> Dear Rohiniranjan ji,

>

> Time of Birth: 11:05 AM Nepal Standard Time

>

> Regards,

> Rajan

>

> , "Rohiniranjan"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > For starters and I am posting this publicly in case others also

> work

> > on your chart!

> >

> > In 1976 Nepal was using IST.

> > Is your recorded time 10:50 or 11:05 AM (recorded time!)

> > Always when the ducks are moving as in the case of your birthdata

> it

> > is wise to also include details about the source of information.

> >

> > It is best to give the actual recorded time always particularly

> when

> > the locality is in an area/country with time changes etc. :-)

> >

> > 15 minutes is a lot to throw calculations off.

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , "Rajan S. Malla"

<rajan@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rohini Ranjan ji,

> > >

> > > I think clients jump ship when it comes to readings is because

> it's

> > human

> > > nature first which is never satisfied and secondly the answer

> given

> > is

> > > confusing. Say as for me, I am from Nepal, and I have consulted

> few

> > > astrologers here on paid basis. But all of them had different

> > versions and

> > > no one was specific. So I have tried to get answers from

learned

> > astrologers

> > > from India by posting in some of the . And 2-3

people

> > who have

> > > replied me also had different versions. My query was as follows:

> > >

> > > Currently, I am working in a private insurance company in Nepal

> but

> > I would

> > > like to change my job or start a new business because the

> current

> > job is

> > > mentally and physically not satisfying to me. I have been

> looking

> > for

> > > another job for a long time and hasn't been successful yet. I

> have

> > to look

> > > after my mom and younger sister so I can't go to foreign

country

> > also. I

> > > want to be established in my home country. If change is there

> for

> > me, when

> > > will it be and which career path shall I follow? Will it be

> another

> > job or

> > > start a new business? Which field is best for me and if I start

> a

> > business,

> > > is partnership OK for me or not?

> > >

> > > My mom wants me to get married but I am not interested right

now

> > coz I

> > > haven't been established successfully in my career path and

also

> I

> > don't

> > > know what kind of girl she will be. About my marriage, when

will

> it

> > take

> > > place? Will it be arranged or love marriage? And what kind of

> girl

> > will she

> > > be?

> > >

> > > And like to know about my health also? How will it be in my

> future?

> > (My

> > > father died of bone cancer in 2001 and younger sister died of

> > Encephalitis

> > > in 2005). I am going through lot of mental and physical ups and

> > downs.

> > >

> > > Is there foreign travel or foreign settlement for me? I have

> only

> > travelled

> > > once to India in 2001 only. If so, when and where? (However, I

> > prefer

> > > settling in my own country but love to travel for pleasure and

> > work.)

> > >

> > > Date of Birth: 12 January, 1976

> > > Time of Birth: 11:05 AM NST (10:50 AM IST)

> > > Place of Birth: Kathmandu, Nepal

> > >

> > > The answers I got was like for my career, some say I will

change

> > career

> > > right after my birthday, some said after few years, and some

say

> I

> > will not.

> > > What I wanted to know was whether I will change my career and

if

> > so, which

> > > time (month or year) and which field will I choose. Similarly

> for my

> > > marriage, one said I will marry in Feb./Mar. of 2007, one said

> in

> > 2009,

> > > other said 2010. For health, some suggested me to wear

> Tourmaline,

> > some to

> > > enhance Mars, some to wear Garnet, some cat's eye, etc. For

> foreign

> > travel,

> > > one said that I will settle in foreign country after 2007, one

> said

> > I will

> > > not settle but chance of visting foreign countries for

pleasure,

> > one said I

> > > will not travel to foreign country and one said there may be

> chance

> > in

> > > future. But nobody was specific and all conflicting.

> > >

> > > So when people get different answers without any specific

> answers,

> > then it

> > > urges people to seek help from others expecting the next one

may

> be

> > specific

> > > and solve the problems. Maybe, my urge to seek answers

> specifically

> > has

> > > chosen you for the answers to my questions, if you could guide

> me

> > properly.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rajan

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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> > > nativities/clients jump ship when it comes to readings!

> > >

> > >

> > > Posted by: "Rohiniranjan" <jyotish_vani@?Subject=Re:

> > > What%20makes%20nativities%2Fclients%20jump%20ship%20when%20it%

> > 20comes%20to%2

> > > 0readings%21> jyotish_vani@

> > > <http://profiles./rohinicrystal> rohinicrystal

> > >

> > >

> > > Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:51 pm (PST)

> > >

> > > Dear Banshiji,

> > >

> > > After reading Kumar ji's posting, I am beginning to wonder if

> you

> > > might have possibly thought that I was criticizing those other

> > > astrologers that may have read for you in the past. I must

> clarify

> > > that no that was not (never has been -- no matter what they

tell

> > > you!) my intent ;-)

> > >

> > > I was and am sincerely trying to fathom the following things:

> > >

> > > What is it that makes a client (paying or otherwise) go for a

> > second

> > > opinion after receiving their first astrological reading?

> > >

> > > If failure of the first reading, after waiting out the period

of

> > > prediction, generally months to years (!) then that is

> absolutely

> > > legitimate.

> > >

> > > But if it happens before the reading/prediction period has run

> out

> > > then, is it because:

> > > = The astrologer was unimpressive and unconvincing?

> > >

> > > = The reading experience was not what the client fantasized and

> > > expected?

> > >

> > > = Was the reading fine but the astrologer not? As in too

> > > uncommunicative, difficult to understand, other reasons?

> > >

> > > Hopefully you will share your experiences without naming names!

> And

> > > others too who have suffered similar situations!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > <%40>

> > > , "Rohiniranjan"

> > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Banshiji,

> > > >

> > > > I am sorry to hear that different astrologers gave you

> different

> > > > interpretation, but I am curious about one thing. After

> receiving

> > > > your reading from the first astrologer, why did you go to the

> > > second

> > > > one?

> > > >

> > > > Please share if you do not mind. I am always curious about

the

> > > mental

> > > > process that makes us go seek a reading.

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > <%40>

> > > , "BANSHI AGARWAL"

> > > > <banshi1206@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Swamiji,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I have been confused by the astrologers about the outcome

in

> > > > jupiter

> > > > > maha dasa..My dBirthday details are as follows:

> > > > >

> > > > > DOB:12TH JUNE 1971

> > > > > TIME:13:45 HRS

> > > > > PLACE: KOLKATA,INDIA

> > > > >

> > > > > Currently i m running Rahu-Mars period & on 5-12-2006

> jupiter

> > > maha

> > > > > dasa will start.Some astrologers are saying that it will be

> the

> > > > > worst period of my life because jupiter has kendraadhipati

> > > > > dosa,maraka & its placement in 3rd house very bad.So i

> should

> > do

> > > a

> > > > > lot of remedies in this dasa.

> > > > > Some astrolgers are saying that it will be the best period

> of

> > my

> > > > > life because jupiter is most beneficial planet as well as

> > karaka

> > > > for

> > > > > wealth.It doesnt have kendraadhipati dosa because it is not

> > > > situated

> > > > > in kendra,again it has great power due to his placement in

> his

> > > most

> > > > > friendly & exalted planet mars house.Again it aspects on

> > > > > 7th,9th,11th so it will be the best time.

> > > > >

> > > > > I m very confused Swamiji,will you please help me to solve

> this

> > > > > puzzle.

> > > > >

> > > > > Banshidhar Agarwal

> > > > > 98300 72369

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > <outbind://166-

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[Guest guest]

Rajan,

 

That is perfectly valid, obviously.

 

But do you know if he was using 11:05 NST or 10:50 IST for a 1976

birth in Nepal?

 

RR

 

, "prakriti_the_nature"

<rajan wrote:

>

> Dear Rohiniranjan ji,

>

> For myself, I went to another astrologer only after the prediction

> given by first astrologer for a specific question didn't happen or

> go against the prediction. As a human nature, we seek remedies or

> answers for problems in our life until we get some satisfaction or

> right answer. My expereince with astrologers or even tantriks was

> immense last year when my sister was admitted in hospital and she

> was in coma. I consulted many of them and each one gave me specific

> duration of time when some result will show off but invain. This

> tend me to next one and same thing happened again and again. Maybe

> only for my sister's well-being, I consulted about 5-6 learned ones

> and I think 4 of them said that she will live but she died.

>

> Regards

> Rajan

>

> , "Rohiniranjan"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > I will try again :-)

> > Read my original posting in this thread and you will see where

you

> > are missing the point in the briefly quoted message below from

> your

> > post:

> > , "Rajan S. Malla"

<rajan@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > So when people get different answers without any specific

> answers,

> > then it

> > > urges people to seek help from others expecting the next one

may

> be

> > specific

> > > and solve the problems...

> >

> > ***********************************

> >

> > Rajan, my question was: What happened after the first reading

that

> > made the person go to the second one, and third and so on!

> >

> > Your disappointment with different readings from different

> > astrologers is understandable, but the QUESTION is: WHY DID YOU

OR

> > ANYONE GO TO THE NEXT ASTROLOGER AND HOW SOON AFTER THE FIRST

> > READING? :-)

> >

> > See my point?

> >

> > RR

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Rohiniranjan ji,

 

Sorry for late reply. Was engaged in Dipawali celebration. The

source of birth data is from my mother as well as I checked the

hospital record given to us. The birth time is 11:05 AM.

 

Regards,

Rajan

 

, "Rohiniranjan"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> But Nepal Standard Time was not even in effect in 1976!

>

> Let me repeat! If you are serious, you must tell me the source of

> birthdata. Is it from a verbal account (parent's recollection) or

a

> family diary or record? What were the numbers representing the

time

> recorded there? 11:05 or 10:50?

>

> Please respond seriously and give full information.

>

> RR

>

> , "prakriti_the_nature"

> <rajan@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rohiniranjan ji,

> >

> > Time of Birth: 11:05 AM Nepal Standard Time

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rajan

> >

> > , "Rohiniranjan"

> > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > For starters and I am posting this publicly in case others

also

> > work

> > > on your chart!

> > >

> > > In 1976 Nepal was using IST.

> > > Is your recorded time 10:50 or 11:05 AM (recorded time!)

> > > Always when the ducks are moving as in the case of your

birthdata

> > it

> > > is wise to also include details about the source of

information.

> > >

> > > It is best to give the actual recorded time always

particularly

> > when

> > > the locality is in an area/country with time changes etc. :-)

> > >

> > > 15 minutes is a lot to throw calculations off.

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , "Rajan S. Malla"

> <rajan@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan ji,

> > > >

> > > > I think clients jump ship when it comes to readings is

because

> > it's

> > > human

> > > > nature first which is never satisfied and secondly the

answer

> > given

> > > is

> > > > confusing. Say as for me, I am from Nepal, and I have

consulted

> > few

> > > > astrologers here on paid basis. But all of them had

different

> > > versions and

> > > > no one was specific. So I have tried to get answers from

> learned

> > > astrologers

> > > > from India by posting in some of the . And 2-3

> people

> > > who have

> > > > replied me also had different versions. My query was as

follows:

> > > >

> > > > Currently, I am working in a private insurance company in

Nepal

> > but

> > > I would

> > > > like to change my job or start a new business because the

> > current

> > > job is

> > > > mentally and physically not satisfying to me. I have been

> > looking

> > > for

> > > > another job for a long time and hasn't been successful yet.

I

> > have

> > > to look

> > > > after my mom and younger sister so I can't go to foreign

> country

> > > also. I

> > > > want to be established in my home country. If change is

there

> > for

> > > me, when

> > > > will it be and which career path shall I follow? Will it be

> > another

> > > job or

> > > > start a new business? Which field is best for me and if I

start

> > a

> > > business,

> > > > is partnership OK for me or not?

> > > >

> > > > My mom wants me to get married but I am not interested right

> now

> > > coz I

> > > > haven't been established successfully in my career path and

> also

> > I

> > > don't

> > > > know what kind of girl she will be. About my marriage, when

> will

> > it

> > > take

> > > > place? Will it be arranged or love marriage? And what kind

of

> > girl

> > > will she

> > > > be?

> > > >

> > > > And like to know about my health also? How will it be in my

> > future?

> > > (My

> > > > father died of bone cancer in 2001 and younger sister died

of

> > > Encephalitis

> > > > in 2005). I am going through lot of mental and physical ups

and

> > > downs.

> > > >

> > > > Is there foreign travel or foreign settlement for me? I have

> > only

> > > travelled

> > > > once to India in 2001 only. If so, when and where? (However,

I

> > > prefer

> > > > settling in my own country but love to travel for pleasure

and

> > > work.)

> > > >

> > > > Date of Birth: 12 January, 1976

> > > > Time of Birth: 11:05 AM NST (10:50 AM IST)

> > > > Place of Birth: Kathmandu, Nepal

> > > >

> > > > The answers I got was like for my career, some say I will

> change

> > > career

> > > > right after my birthday, some said after few years, and some

> say

> > I

> > > will not.

> > > > What I wanted to know was whether I will change my career

and

> if

> > > so, which

> > > > time (month or year) and which field will I choose.

Similarly

> > for my

> > > > marriage, one said I will marry in Feb./Mar. of 2007, one

said

> > in

> > > 2009,

> > > > other said 2010. For health, some suggested me to wear

> > Tourmaline,

> > > some to

> > > > enhance Mars, some to wear Garnet, some cat's eye, etc. For

> > foreign

> > > travel,

> > > > one said that I will settle in foreign country after 2007,

one

> > said

> > > I will

> > > > not settle but chance of visting foreign countries for

> pleasure,

> > > one said I

> > > > will not travel to foreign country and one said there may be

> > chance

> > > in

> > > > future. But nobody was specific and all conflicting.

> > > >

> > > > So when people get different answers without any specific

> > answers,

> > > then it

> > > > urges people to seek help from others expecting the next one

> may

> > be

> > > specific

> > > > and solve the problems. Maybe, my urge to seek answers

> > specifically

> > > has

> > > > chosen you for the answers to my questions, if you could

guide

> > me

> > > properly.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Rajan

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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> > makes

> > > > nativities/clients jump ship when it comes to readings!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Posted by: "Rohiniranjan" <jyotish_vani@?Subject=Re:

> > > > What%20makes%20nativities%2Fclients%20jump%20ship%20when%

20it%

> > > 20comes%20to%2

> > > > 0readings%21> jyotish_vani@

> > > > <http://profiles./rohinicrystal> rohinicrystal

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:51 pm (PST)

> > > >

> > > > Dear Banshiji,

> > > >

> > > > After reading Kumar ji's posting, I am beginning to wonder

if

> > you

> > > > might have possibly thought that I was criticizing those

other

> > > > astrologers that may have read for you in the past. I must

> > clarify

> > > > that no that was not (never has been -- no matter what they

> tell

> > > > you!) my intent ;-)

> > > >

> > > > I was and am sincerely trying to fathom the following things:

> > > >

> > > > What is it that makes a client (paying or otherwise) go for

a

> > > second

> > > > opinion after receiving their first astrological reading?

> > > >

> > > > If failure of the first reading, after waiting out the

period

> of

> > > > prediction, generally months to years (!) then that is

> > absolutely

> > > > legitimate.

> > > >

> > > > But if it happens before the reading/prediction period has

run

> > out

> > > > then, is it because:

> > > > = The astrologer was unimpressive and unconvincing?

> > > >

> > > > = The reading experience was not what the client fantasized

and

> > > > expected?

> > > >

> > > > = Was the reading fine but the astrologer not? As in too

> > > > uncommunicative, difficult to understand, other reasons?

> > > >

> > > > Hopefully you will share your experiences without naming

names!

> > And

> > > > others too who have suffered similar situations!

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > <%40>

> > > > , "Rohiniranjan"

> > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Banshiji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I am sorry to hear that different astrologers gave you

> > different

> > > > > interpretation, but I am curious about one thing. After

> > receiving

> > > > > your reading from the first astrologer, why did you go to

the

> > > > second

> > > > > one?

> > > > >

> > > > > Please share if you do not mind. I am always curious about

> the

> > > > mental

> > > > > process that makes us go seek a reading.

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > , "BANSHI AGARWAL"

> > > > > <banshi1206@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Swamiji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have been confused by the astrologers about the

outcome

> in

> > > > > jupiter

> > > > > > maha dasa..My dBirthday details are as follows:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > DOB:12TH JUNE 1971

> > > > > > TIME:13:45 HRS

> > > > > > PLACE: KOLKATA,INDIA

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Currently i m running Rahu-Mars period & on 5-12-2006

> > jupiter

> > > > maha

> > > > > > dasa will start.Some astrologers are saying that it will

be

> > the

> > > > > > worst period of my life because jupiter has

kendraadhipati

> > > > > > dosa,maraka & its placement in 3rd house very bad.So i

> > should

> > > do

> > > > a

> > > > > > lot of remedies in this dasa.

> > > > > > Some astrolgers are saying that it will be the best

period

> > of

> > > my

> > > > > > life because jupiter is most beneficial planet as well

as

> > > karaka

> > > > > for

> > > > > > wealth.It doesnt have kendraadhipati dosa because it is

not

> > > > > situated

> > > > > > in kendra,again it has great power due to his placement

in

> > his

> > > > most

> > > > > > friendly & exalted planet mars house.Again it aspects on

> > > > > > 7th,9th,11th so it will be the best time.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I m very confused Swamiji,will you please help me to

solve

> > this

> > > > > > puzzle.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Banshidhar Agarwal

> > > > > > 98300 72369

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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[Guest guest]

So that would make it 11:05 IST because IST was what was in use in

your birth year. Do you agree?

 

11:05 IST and not 11:05 NST as indicated by you below but rather

10:50 NST.

 

The astrologers you were criticising at one point -- did they use

11:05 NST because that is what you told them perhaps, in the past?

 

RR

 

RR

 

, "prakriti_the_nature"

<rajan wrote:

>

> Dear Rohiniranjan ji,

>

> Sorry for late reply. Was engaged in Dipawali celebration. The

> source of birth data is from my mother as well as I checked the

> hospital record given to us. The birth time is 11:05 AM.

>

> Regards,

> Rajan

>

> , "Rohiniranjan"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > But Nepal Standard Time was not even in effect in 1976!

> >

> > Let me repeat! If you are serious, you must tell me the source of

> > birthdata. Is it from a verbal account (parent's recollection) or

> a

> > family diary or record? What were the numbers representing the

> time

> > recorded there? 11:05 or 10:50?

> >

> > Please respond seriously and give full information.

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , "prakriti_the_nature"

> > <rajan@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rohiniranjan ji,

> > >

> > > Time of Birth: 11:05 AM Nepal Standard Time

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rajan

> > >

> > > , "Rohiniranjan"

> > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > For starters and I am posting this publicly in case others

> also

> > > work

> > > > on your chart!

> > > >

> > > > In 1976 Nepal was using IST.

> > > > Is your recorded time 10:50 or 11:05 AM (recorded time!)

> > > > Always when the ducks are moving as in the case of your

> birthdata

> > > it

> > > > is wise to also include details about the source of

> information.

> > > >

> > > > It is best to give the actual recorded time always

> particularly

> > > when

> > > > the locality is in an area/country with time changes etc. :-)

> > > >

> > > > 15 minutes is a lot to throw calculations off.

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > , "Rajan S. Malla"

> > <rajan@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I think clients jump ship when it comes to readings is

> because

> > > it's

> > > > human

> > > > > nature first which is never satisfied and secondly the

> answer

> > > given

> > > > is

> > > > > confusing. Say as for me, I am from Nepal, and I have

> consulted

> > > few

> > > > > astrologers here on paid basis. But all of them had

> different

> > > > versions and

> > > > > no one was specific. So I have tried to get answers from

> > learned

> > > > astrologers

> > > > > from India by posting in some of the . And 2-3

> > people

> > > > who have

> > > > > replied me also had different versions. My query was as

> follows:

> > > > >

> > > > > Currently, I am working in a private insurance company in

> Nepal

> > > but

> > > > I would

> > > > > like to change my job or start a new business because the

> > > current

> > > > job is

> > > > > mentally and physically not satisfying to me. I have been

> > > looking

> > > > for

> > > > > another job for a long time and hasn't been successful yet.

> I

> > > have

> > > > to look

> > > > > after my mom and younger sister so I can't go to foreign

> > country

> > > > also. I

> > > > > want to be established in my home country. If change is

> there

> > > for

> > > > me, when

> > > > > will it be and which career path shall I follow? Will it be

> > > another

> > > > job or

> > > > > start a new business? Which field is best for me and if I

> start

> > > a

> > > > business,

> > > > > is partnership OK for me or not?

> > > > >

> > > > > My mom wants me to get married but I am not interested

right

> > now

> > > > coz I

> > > > > haven't been established successfully in my career path and

> > also

> > > I

> > > > don't

> > > > > know what kind of girl she will be. About my marriage, when

> > will

> > > it

> > > > take

> > > > > place? Will it be arranged or love marriage? And what kind

> of

> > > girl

> > > > will she

> > > > > be?

> > > > >

> > > > > And like to know about my health also? How will it be in my

> > > future?

> > > > (My

> > > > > father died of bone cancer in 2001 and younger sister died

> of

> > > > Encephalitis

> > > > > in 2005). I am going through lot of mental and physical ups

> and

> > > > downs.

> > > > >

> > > > > Is there foreign travel or foreign settlement for me? I

have

> > > only

> > > > travelled

> > > > > once to India in 2001 only. If so, when and where?

(However,

> I

> > > > prefer

> > > > > settling in my own country but love to travel for pleasure

> and

> > > > work.)

> > > > >

> > > > > Date of Birth: 12 January, 1976

> > > > > Time of Birth: 11:05 AM NST (10:50 AM IST)

> > > > > Place of Birth: Kathmandu, Nepal

> > > > >

> > > > > The answers I got was like for my career, some say I will

> > change

> > > > career

> > > > > right after my birthday, some said after few years, and

some

> > say

> > > I

> > > > will not.

> > > > > What I wanted to know was whether I will change my career

> and

> > if

> > > > so, which

> > > > > time (month or year) and which field will I choose.

> Similarly

> > > for my

> > > > > marriage, one said I will marry in Feb./Mar. of 2007, one

> said

> > > in

> > > > 2009,

> > > > > other said 2010. For health, some suggested me to wear

> > > Tourmaline,

> > > > some to

> > > > > enhance Mars, some to wear Garnet, some cat's eye, etc. For

> > > foreign

> > > > travel,

> > > > > one said that I will settle in foreign country after 2007,

> one

> > > said

> > > > I will

> > > > > not settle but chance of visting foreign countries for

> > pleasure,

> > > > one said I

> > > > > will not travel to foreign country and one said there may

be

> > > chance

> > > > in

> > > > > future. But nobody was specific and all conflicting.

> > > > >

> > > > > So when people get different answers without any specific

> > > answers,

> > > > then it

> > > > > urges people to seek help from others expecting the next

one

> > may

> > > be

> > > > specific

> > > > > and solve the problems. Maybe, my urge to seek answers

> > > specifically

> > > > has

> > > > > chosen you for the answers to my questions, if you could

> guide

> > > me

> > > > properly.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Rajan

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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> > > makes

> > > > > nativities/clients jump ship when it comes to readings!

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Posted by: "Rohiniranjan" <jyotish_vani@?Subject=Re:

> > > > > What%20makes%20nativities%2Fclients%20jump%20ship%20when%

> 20it%

> > > > 20comes%20to%2

> > > > > 0readings%21> jyotish_vani@

> > > > > <http://profiles./rohinicrystal> rohinicrystal

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:51 pm (PST)

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Banshiji,

> > > > >

> > > > > After reading Kumar ji's posting, I am beginning to wonder

> if

> > > you

> > > > > might have possibly thought that I was criticizing those

> other

> > > > > astrologers that may have read for you in the past. I must

> > > clarify

> > > > > that no that was not (never has been -- no matter what they

> > tell

> > > > > you!) my intent ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > I was and am sincerely trying to fathom the following

things:

> > > > >

> > > > > What is it that makes a client (paying or otherwise) go for

> a

> > > > second

> > > > > opinion after receiving their first astrological reading?

> > > > >

> > > > > If failure of the first reading, after waiting out the

> period

> > of

> > > > > prediction, generally months to years (!) then that is

> > > absolutely

> > > > > legitimate.

> > > > >

> > > > > But if it happens before the reading/prediction period has

> run

> > > out

> > > > > then, is it because:

> > > > > = The astrologer was unimpressive and unconvincing?

> > > > >

> > > > > = The reading experience was not what the client fantasized

> and

> > > > > expected?

> > > > >

> > > > > = Was the reading fine but the astrologer not? As in too

> > > > > uncommunicative, difficult to understand, other reasons?

> > > > >

> > > > > Hopefully you will share your experiences without naming

> names!

> > > And

> > > > > others too who have suffered similar situations!

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > > , "Rohiniranjan"

> > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Banshiji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am sorry to hear that different astrologers gave you

> > > different

> > > > > > interpretation, but I am curious about one thing. After

> > > receiving

> > > > > > your reading from the first astrologer, why did you go to

> the

> > > > > second

> > > > > > one?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please share if you do not mind. I am always curious

about

> > the

> > > > > mental

> > > > > > process that makes us go seek a reading.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > <%40>

> > > > > , "BANSHI AGARWAL"

> > > > > > <banshi1206@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Swamiji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have been confused by the astrologers about the

> outcome

> > in

> > > > > > jupiter

> > > > > > > maha dasa..My dBirthday details are as follows:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > DOB:12TH JUNE 1971

> > > > > > > TIME:13:45 HRS

> > > > > > > PLACE: KOLKATA,INDIA

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Currently i m running Rahu-Mars period & on 5-12-2006

> > > jupiter

> > > > > maha

> > > > > > > dasa will start.Some astrologers are saying that it

will

> be

> > > the

> > > > > > > worst period of my life because jupiter has

> kendraadhipati

> > > > > > > dosa,maraka & its placement in 3rd house very bad.So i

> > > should

> > > > do

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > lot of remedies in this dasa.

> > > > > > > Some astrolgers are saying that it will be the best

> period

> > > of

> > > > my

> > > > > > > life because jupiter is most beneficial planet as well

> as

> > > > karaka

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > wealth.It doesnt have kendraadhipati dosa because it is

> not

> > > > > > situated

> > > > > > > in kendra,again it has great power due to his placement

> in

> > > his

> > > > > most

> > > > > > > friendly & exalted planet mars house.Again it aspects

on

> > > > > > > 7th,9th,11th so it will be the best time.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I m very confused Swamiji,will you please help me to

> solve

> > > this

> > > > > > > puzzle.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Banshidhar Agarwal

> > > > > > > 98300 72369

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Dear Rohiniranjan ji,

But I think Nepal was using NST, not IST during 1976. So it should

be 11:05 AM NST. And even my janampatrika bears the same chart based

on 11:05 AM NST. I have always used 11:05 AM NST as my birth time.

Regards,

Rajan

, "Rohiniranjan"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> So that would make it 11:05 IST because IST was what was in use in

> your birth year. Do you agree?

>

> 11:05 IST and not 11:05 NST as indicated by you below but rather

> 10:50 NST.

>

> The astrologers you were criticising at one point -- did they use

> 11:05 NST because that is what you told them perhaps, in the past?

>

> RR

>

> RR

>

> , "prakriti_the_nature"

> <rajan@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rohiniranjan ji,

> >

> > Sorry for late reply. Was engaged in Dipawali celebration. The

> > source of birth data is from my mother as well as I checked the

> > hospital record given to us. The birth time is 11:05 AM.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rajan

> >

> > , "Rohiniranjan"

> > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > But Nepal Standard Time was not even in effect in 1976!

> > >

> > > Let me repeat! If you are serious, you must tell me the source

of

> > > birthdata. Is it from a verbal account (parent's recollection)

or

> > a

> > > family diary or record? What were the numbers representing the

> > time

> > > recorded there? 11:05 or 10:50?

> > >

> > > Please respond seriously and give full information.

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , "prakriti_the_nature"

> > > <rajan@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rohiniranjan ji,

> > > >

> > > > Time of Birth: 11:05 AM Nepal Standard Time

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Rajan

> > > >

> > > > , "Rohiniranjan"

> > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > For starters and I am posting this publicly in case others

> > also

> > > > work

> > > > > on your chart!

> > > > >

> > > > > In 1976 Nepal was using IST.

> > > > > Is your recorded time 10:50 or 11:05 AM (recorded time!)

> > > > > Always when the ducks are moving as in the case of your

> > birthdata

> > > > it

> > > > > is wise to also include details about the source of

> > information.

> > > > >

> > > > > It is best to give the actual recorded time always

> > particularly

> > > > when

> > > > > the locality is in an area/country with time changes

etc. :-)

> > > > >

> > > > > 15 minutes is a lot to throw calculations off.

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > > , "Rajan S. Malla"

> > > <rajan@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I think clients jump ship when it comes to readings is

> > because

> > > > it's

> > > > > human

> > > > > > nature first which is never satisfied and secondly the

> > answer

> > > > given

> > > > > is

> > > > > > confusing. Say as for me, I am from Nepal, and I have

> > consulted

> > > > few

> > > > > > astrologers here on paid basis. But all of them had

> > different

> > > > > versions and

> > > > > > no one was specific. So I have tried to get answers from

> > > learned

> > > > > astrologers

> > > > > > from India by posting in some of the . And 2-

3

> > > people

> > > > > who have

> > > > > > replied me also had different versions. My query was as

> > follows:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Currently, I am working in a private insurance company

in

> > Nepal

> > > > but

> > > > > I would

> > > > > > like to change my job or start a new business because

the

> > > > current

> > > > > job is

> > > > > > mentally and physically not satisfying to me. I have

been

> > > > looking

> > > > > for

> > > > > > another job for a long time and hasn't been successful

yet.

> > I

> > > > have

> > > > > to look

> > > > > > after my mom and younger sister so I can't go to foreign

> > > country

> > > > > also. I

> > > > > > want to be established in my home country. If change is

> > there

> > > > for

> > > > > me, when

> > > > > > will it be and which career path shall I follow? Will it

be

> > > > another

> > > > > job or

> > > > > > start a new business? Which field is best for me and if

I

> > start

> > > > a

> > > > > business,

> > > > > > is partnership OK for me or not?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My mom wants me to get married but I am not interested

> right

> > > now

> > > > > coz I

> > > > > > haven't been established successfully in my career path

and

> > > also

> > > > I

> > > > > don't

> > > > > > know what kind of girl she will be. About my marriage,

when

> > > will

> > > > it

> > > > > take

> > > > > > place? Will it be arranged or love marriage? And what

kind

> > of

> > > > girl

> > > > > will she

> > > > > > be?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And like to know about my health also? How will it be in

my

> > > > future?

> > > > > (My

> > > > > > father died of bone cancer in 2001 and younger sister

died

> > of

> > > > > Encephalitis

> > > > > > in 2005). I am going through lot of mental and physical

ups

> > and

> > > > > downs.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Is there foreign travel or foreign settlement for me? I

> have

> > > > only

> > > > > travelled

> > > > > > once to India in 2001 only. If so, when and where?

> (However,

> > I

> > > > > prefer

> > > > > > settling in my own country but love to travel for

pleasure

> > and

> > > > > work.)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Date of Birth: 12 January, 1976

> > > > > > Time of Birth: 11:05 AM NST (10:50 AM IST)

> > > > > > Place of Birth: Kathmandu, Nepal

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The answers I got was like for my career, some say I

will

> > > change

> > > > > career

> > > > > > right after my birthday, some said after few years, and

> some

> > > say

> > > > I

> > > > > will not.

> > > > > > What I wanted to know was whether I will change my

career

> > and

> > > if

> > > > > so, which

> > > > > > time (month or year) and which field will I choose.

> > Similarly

> > > > for my

> > > > > > marriage, one said I will marry in Feb./Mar. of 2007,

one

> > said

> > > > in

> > > > > 2009,

> > > > > > other said 2010. For health, some suggested me to wear

> > > > Tourmaline,

> > > > > some to

> > > > > > enhance Mars, some to wear Garnet, some cat's eye, etc.

For

> > > > foreign

> > > > > travel,

> > > > > > one said that I will settle in foreign country after

2007,

> > one

> > > > said

> > > > > I will

> > > > > > not settle but chance of visting foreign countries for

> > > pleasure,

> > > > > one said I

> > > > > > will not travel to foreign country and one said there

may

> be

> > > > chance

> > > > > in

> > > > > > future. But nobody was specific and all conflicting.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So when people get different answers without any

specific

> > > > answers,

> > > > > then it

> > > > > > urges people to seek help from others expecting the next

> one

> > > may

> > > > be

> > > > > specific

> > > > > > and solve the problems. Maybe, my urge to seek answers

> > > > specifically

> > > > > has

> > > > > > chosen you for the answers to my questions, if you could

> > guide

> > > > me

> > > > > properly.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Rajan

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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> > What

> > > > makes

> > > > > > nativities/clients jump ship when it comes to readings!

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Posted by: "Rohiniranjan" <jyotish_vani@?

Subject=Re:

> > > > > > What%20makes%20nativities%2Fclients%20jump%20ship%20when%

> > 20it%

> > > > > 20comes%20to%2

> > > > > > 0readings%21> jyotish_vani@

> > > > > > <http://profiles./rohinicrystal> rohinicrystal

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:51 pm (PST)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Banshiji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > After reading Kumar ji's posting, I am beginning to

wonder

> > if

> > > > you

> > > > > > might have possibly thought that I was criticizing those

> > other

> > > > > > astrologers that may have read for you in the past. I

must

> > > > clarify

> > > > > > that no that was not (never has been -- no matter what

they

> > > tell

> > > > > > you!) my intent ;-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I was and am sincerely trying to fathom the following

> things:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What is it that makes a client (paying or otherwise) go

for

> > a

> > > > > second

> > > > > > opinion after receiving their first astrological reading?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If failure of the first reading, after waiting out the

> > period

> > > of

> > > > > > prediction, generally months to years (!) then that is

> > > > absolutely

> > > > > > legitimate.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But if it happens before the reading/prediction period

has

> > run

> > > > out

> > > > > > then, is it because:

> > > > > > = The astrologer was unimpressive and unconvincing?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > = The reading experience was not what the client

fantasized

> > and

> > > > > > expected?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > = Was the reading fine but the astrologer not? As in too

> > > > > > uncommunicative, difficult to understand, other reasons?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hopefully you will share your experiences without naming

> > names!

> > > > And

> > > > > > others too who have suffered similar situations!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR

> > > > > >

> > > > > > <%40>

> > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan"

> > > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Banshiji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am sorry to hear that different astrologers gave you

> > > > different

> > > > > > > interpretation, but I am curious about one thing.

After

> > > > receiving

> > > > > > > your reading from the first astrologer, why did you go

to

> > the

> > > > > > second

> > > > > > > one?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please share if you do not mind. I am always curious

> about

> > > the

> > > > > > mental

> > > > > > > process that makes us go seek a reading.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <%40>

> > > > > > , "BANSHI AGARWAL"

> > > > > > > <banshi1206@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Respected Swamiji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have been confused by the astrologers about the

> > outcome

> > > in

> > > > > > > jupiter

> > > > > > > > maha dasa..My dBirthday details are as follows:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > DOB:12TH JUNE 1971

> > > > > > > > TIME:13:45 HRS

> > > > > > > > PLACE: KOLKATA,INDIA

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Currently i m running Rahu-Mars period & on 5-12-

2006

> > > > jupiter

> > > > > > maha

> > > > > > > > dasa will start.Some astrologers are saying that it

> will

> > be

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > worst period of my life because jupiter has

> > kendraadhipati

> > > > > > > > dosa,maraka & its placement in 3rd house very bad.So

i

> > > > should

> > > > > do

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > lot of remedies in this dasa.

> > > > > > > > Some astrolgers are saying that it will be the best

> > period

> > > > of

> > > > > my

> > > > > > > > life because jupiter is most beneficial planet as

well

> > as

> > > > > karaka

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > wealth.It doesnt have kendraadhipati dosa because it

is

> > not

> > > > > > > situated

> > > > > > > > in kendra,again it has great power due to his

placement

> > in

> > > > his

> > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > friendly & exalted planet mars house.Again it

aspects

> on

> > > > > > > > 7th,9th,11th so it will be the best time.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I m very confused Swamiji,will you please help me to

> > solve

> > > > this

> > > > > > > > puzzle.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Banshidhar Agarwal

> > > > > > > > 98300 72369

> > > > > > > >

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Nepal started using NST in 1988 (clocks set 15 minutes ahead of

India) according to Time changes in the World by Doris Chase Doane.

Perhaps you can confirm from local officials or local official

publications and report back.

 

RR

 

, "prakriti_the_nature"

<rajan wrote:

>

> Dear Rohiniranjan ji,

> But I think Nepal was using NST, not IST during 1976. So it should

> be 11:05 AM NST. And even my janampatrika bears the same chart

based

> on 11:05 AM NST. I have always used 11:05 AM NST as my birth time.

> Regards,

> Rajan

> , "Rohiniranjan"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > So that would make it 11:05 IST because IST was what was in use

in

> > your birth year. Do you agree?

> >

> > 11:05 IST and not 11:05 NST as indicated by you below but rather

> > 10:50 NST.

> >

> > The astrologers you were criticising at one point -- did they use

> > 11:05 NST because that is what you told them perhaps, in the past?

> >

> > RR

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , "prakriti_the_nature"

> > <rajan@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rohiniranjan ji,

> > >

> > > Sorry for late reply. Was engaged in Dipawali celebration. The

> > > source of birth data is from my mother as well as I checked the

> > > hospital record given to us. The birth time is 11:05 AM.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rajan

> > >

> > > , "Rohiniranjan"

> > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > But Nepal Standard Time was not even in effect in 1976!

> > > >

> > > > Let me repeat! If you are serious, you must tell me the

source

> of

> > > > birthdata. Is it from a verbal account (parent's

recollection)

> or

> > > a

> > > > family diary or record? What were the numbers representing

the

> > > time

> > > > recorded there? 11:05 or 10:50?

> > > >

> > > > Please respond seriously and give full information.

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > >

, "prakriti_the_nature"

> > > > <rajan@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rohiniranjan ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Time of Birth: 11:05 AM Nepal Standard Time

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Rajan

> > > > >

> > > > > , "Rohiniranjan"

> > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For starters and I am posting this publicly in case

others

> > > also

> > > > > work

> > > > > > on your chart!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In 1976 Nepal was using IST.

> > > > > > Is your recorded time 10:50 or 11:05 AM (recorded time!)

> > > > > > Always when the ducks are moving as in the case of your

> > > birthdata

> > > > > it

> > > > > > is wise to also include details about the source of

> > > information.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It is best to give the actual recorded time always

> > > particularly

> > > > > when

> > > > > > the locality is in an area/country with time changes

> etc. :-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 15 minutes is a lot to throw calculations off.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , "Rajan S. Malla"

> > > > <rajan@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I think clients jump ship when it comes to readings is

> > > because

> > > > > it's

> > > > > > human

> > > > > > > nature first which is never satisfied and secondly the

> > > answer

> > > > > given

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > confusing. Say as for me, I am from Nepal, and I have

> > > consulted

> > > > > few

> > > > > > > astrologers here on paid basis. But all of them had

> > > different

> > > > > > versions and

> > > > > > > no one was specific. So I have tried to get answers

from

> > > > learned

> > > > > > astrologers

> > > > > > > from India by posting in some of the . And 2-

> 3

> > > > people

> > > > > > who have

> > > > > > > replied me also had different versions. My query was as

> > > follows:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Currently, I am working in a private insurance company

> in

> > > Nepal

> > > > > but

> > > > > > I would

> > > > > > > like to change my job or start a new business because

> the

> > > > > current

> > > > > > job is

> > > > > > > mentally and physically not satisfying to me. I have

> been

> > > > > looking

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > another job for a long time and hasn't been successful

> yet.

> > > I

> > > > > have

> > > > > > to look

> > > > > > > after my mom and younger sister so I can't go to

foreign

> > > > country

> > > > > > also. I

> > > > > > > want to be established in my home country. If change is

> > > there

> > > > > for

> > > > > > me, when

> > > > > > > will it be and which career path shall I follow? Will

it

> be

> > > > > another

> > > > > > job or

> > > > > > > start a new business? Which field is best for me and if

> I

> > > start

> > > > > a

> > > > > > business,

> > > > > > > is partnership OK for me or not?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My mom wants me to get married but I am not interested

> > right

> > > > now

> > > > > > coz I

> > > > > > > haven't been established successfully in my career path

> and

> > > > also

> > > > > I

> > > > > > don't

> > > > > > > know what kind of girl she will be. About my marriage,

> when

> > > > will

> > > > > it

> > > > > > take

> > > > > > > place? Will it be arranged or love marriage? And what

> kind

> > > of

> > > > > girl

> > > > > > will she

> > > > > > > be?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > And like to know about my health also? How will it be

in

> my

> > > > > future?

> > > > > > (My

> > > > > > > father died of bone cancer in 2001 and younger sister

> died

> > > of

> > > > > > Encephalitis

> > > > > > > in 2005). I am going through lot of mental and physical

> ups

> > > and

> > > > > > downs.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Is there foreign travel or foreign settlement for me? I

> > have

> > > > > only

> > > > > > travelled

> > > > > > > once to India in 2001 only. If so, when and where?

> > (However,

> > > I

> > > > > > prefer

> > > > > > > settling in my own country but love to travel for

> pleasure

> > > and

> > > > > > work.)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Date of Birth: 12 January, 1976

> > > > > > > Time of Birth: 11:05 AM NST (10:50 AM IST)

> > > > > > > Place of Birth: Kathmandu, Nepal

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The answers I got was like for my career, some say I

> will

> > > > change

> > > > > > career

> > > > > > > right after my birthday, some said after few years, and

> > some

> > > > say

> > > > > I

> > > > > > will not.

> > > > > > > What I wanted to know was whether I will change my

> career

> > > and

> > > > if

> > > > > > so, which

> > > > > > > time (month or year) and which field will I choose.

> > > Similarly

> > > > > for my

> > > > > > > marriage, one said I will marry in Feb./Mar. of 2007,

> one

> > > said

> > > > > in

> > > > > > 2009,

> > > > > > > other said 2010. For health, some suggested me to wear

> > > > > Tourmaline,

> > > > > > some to

> > > > > > > enhance Mars, some to wear Garnet, some cat's eye, etc.

> For

> > > > > foreign

> > > > > > travel,

> > > > > > > one said that I will settle in foreign country after

> 2007,

> > > one

> > > > > said

> > > > > > I will

> > > > > > > not settle but chance of visting foreign countries for

> > > > pleasure,

> > > > > > one said I

> > > > > > > will not travel to foreign country and one said there

> may

> > be

> > > > > chance

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > future. But nobody was specific and all conflicting.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So when people get different answers without any

> specific

> > > > > answers,

> > > > > > then it

> > > > > > > urges people to seek help from others expecting the

next

> > one

> > > > may

> > > > > be

> > > > > > specific

> > > > > > > and solve the problems. Maybe, my urge to seek answers

> > > > > specifically

> > > > > > has

> > > > > > > chosen you for the answers to my questions, if you

could

> > > guide

> > > > > me

> > > > > > properly.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Rajan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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> > > What

> > > > > makes

> > > > > > > nativities/clients jump ship when it comes to readings!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Posted by: "Rohiniranjan" <jyotish_vani@?

> Subject=Re:

> > > > > > > What%20makes%20nativities%2Fclients%20jump%20ship%

20when%

> > > 20it%

> > > > > > 20comes%20to%2

> > > > > > > 0readings%21> jyotish_vani@

> > > > > > > <http://profiles./rohinicrystal> rohinicrystal

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:51 pm (PST)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Banshiji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > After reading Kumar ji's posting, I am beginning to

> wonder

> > > if

> > > > > you

> > > > > > > might have possibly thought that I was criticizing

those

> > > other

> > > > > > > astrologers that may have read for you in the past. I

> must

> > > > > clarify

> > > > > > > that no that was not (never has been -- no matter what

> they

> > > > tell

> > > > > > > you!) my intent ;-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I was and am sincerely trying to fathom the following

> > things:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What is it that makes a client (paying or otherwise) go

> for

> > > a

> > > > > > second

> > > > > > > opinion after receiving their first astrological

reading?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If failure of the first reading, after waiting out the

> > > period

> > > > of

> > > > > > > prediction, generally months to years (!) then that is

> > > > > absolutely

> > > > > > > legitimate.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But if it happens before the reading/prediction period

> has

> > > run

> > > > > out

> > > > > > > then, is it because:

> > > > > > > = The astrologer was unimpressive and unconvincing?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > = The reading experience was not what the client

> fantasized

> > > and

> > > > > > > expected?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > = Was the reading fine but the astrologer not? As in

too

> > > > > > > uncommunicative, difficult to understand, other reasons?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hopefully you will share your experiences without

naming

> > > names!

> > > > > And

> > > > > > > others too who have suffered similar situations!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <%40>

> > > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan"

> > > > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Banshiji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am sorry to hear that different astrologers gave

you

> > > > > different

> > > > > > > > interpretation, but I am curious about one thing.

> After

> > > > > receiving

> > > > > > > > your reading from the first astrologer, why did you

go

> to

> > > the

> > > > > > > second

> > > > > > > > one?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please share if you do not mind. I am always curious

> > about

> > > > the

> > > > > > > mental

> > > > > > > > process that makes us go seek a reading.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > <%40>

> > > > > > > , "BANSHI AGARWAL"

> > > > > > > > <banshi1206@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Respected Swamiji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I have been confused by the astrologers about the

> > > outcome

> > > > in

> > > > > > > > jupiter

> > > > > > > > > maha dasa..My dBirthday details are as follows:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > DOB:12TH JUNE 1971

> > > > > > > > > TIME:13:45 HRS

> > > > > > > > > PLACE: KOLKATA,INDIA

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Currently i m running Rahu-Mars period & on 5-12-

> 2006

> > > > > jupiter

> > > > > > > maha

> > > > > > > > > dasa will start.Some astrologers are saying that it

> > will

> > > be

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > worst period of my life because jupiter has

> > > kendraadhipati

> > > > > > > > > dosa,maraka & its placement in 3rd house very

bad.So

> i

> > > > > should

> > > > > > do

> > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > lot of remedies in this dasa.

> > > > > > > > > Some astrolgers are saying that it will be the best

> > > period

> > > > > of

> > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > life because jupiter is most beneficial planet as

> well

> > > as

> > > > > > karaka

> > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > wealth.It doesnt have kendraadhipati dosa because

it

> is

> > > not

> > > > > > > > situated

> > > > > > > > > in kendra,again it has great power due to his

> placement

> > > in

> > > > > his

> > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > friendly & exalted planet mars house.Again it

> aspects

> > on

> > > > > > > > > 7th,9th,11th so it will be the best time.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I m very confused Swamiji,will you please help me

to

> > > solve

> > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > puzzle.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Banshidhar Agarwal

> > > > > > > > > 98300 72369

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Dear Rohiniranjan ji,

Perhaps you are right. I checked on some websites and found that

Nepal started using NST only from 1986. So this means, the time

recorded on my birth certificate (11:05 AM) may be actually IST.

Since my father has died, I checked with my mother and she says she

know it was 11:05 AM but no idea whether it is NST or IST. So I

think it may be that the recorded time of 11:05 AM might be actually

IST. Does 10:50 or 11:05 gives different result for me? Or one other

way to verify is that you can verify with some past events in my

life. If you need to know anything from my past to verify your data,

I can furnish that.For your reference, my father died on 28th

October, 2001 and my younger sister died on 23rd November, 2005. I

got employed on my current job on 26th May, 2003. And my only

foreign trip was to India on 3rd September, 2001. I hope these

events may help you in calculating exact details on me.

Regards,

Rajan

 

 

, "Rohiniranjan"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Nepal started using NST in 1988 (clocks set 15 minutes ahead of

> India) according to Time changes in the World by Doris Chase

Doane.

> Perhaps you can confirm from local officials or local official

> publications and report back.

>

> RR

>

> , "prakriti_the_nature"

> <rajan@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rohiniranjan ji,

> > But I think Nepal was using NST, not IST during 1976. So it

should

> > be 11:05 AM NST. And even my janampatrika bears the same chart

> based

> > on 11:05 AM NST. I have always used 11:05 AM NST as my birth

time.

> > Regards,

> > Rajan

> > , "Rohiniranjan"

> > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > So that would make it 11:05 IST because IST was what was in

use

> in

> > > your birth year. Do you agree?

> > >

> > > 11:05 IST and not 11:05 NST as indicated by you below but

rather

> > > 10:50 NST.

> > >

> > > The astrologers you were criticising at one point -- did they

use

> > > 11:05 NST because that is what you told them perhaps, in the

past?

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , "prakriti_the_nature"

> > > <rajan@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rohiniranjan ji,

> > > >

> > > > Sorry for late reply. Was engaged in Dipawali celebration.

The

> > > > source of birth data is from my mother as well as I checked

the

> > > > hospital record given to us. The birth time is 11:05 AM.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Rajan

> > > >

> > > > , "Rohiniranjan"

> > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > But Nepal Standard Time was not even in effect in 1976!

> > > > >

> > > > > Let me repeat! If you are serious, you must tell me the

> source

> > of

> > > > > birthdata. Is it from a verbal account (parent's

> recollection)

> > or

> > > > a

> > > > > family diary or record? What were the numbers representing

> the

> > > > time

> > > > > recorded there? 11:05 or 10:50?

> > > > >

> > > > > Please respond seriously and give full information.

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > >

> , "prakriti_the_nature"

> > > > > <rajan@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rohiniranjan ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Time of Birth: 11:05 AM Nepal Standard Time

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Rajan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan"

> > > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > For starters and I am posting this publicly in case

> others

> > > > also

> > > > > > work

> > > > > > > on your chart!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In 1976 Nepal was using IST.

> > > > > > > Is your recorded time 10:50 or 11:05 AM (recorded

time!)

> > > > > > > Always when the ducks are moving as in the case of

your

> > > > birthdata

> > > > > > it

> > > > > > > is wise to also include details about the source of

> > > > information.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is best to give the actual recorded time always

> > > > particularly

> > > > > > when

> > > > > > > the locality is in an area/country with time changes

> > etc. :-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 15 minutes is a lot to throw calculations off.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , "Rajan S.

Malla"

> > > > > <rajan@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I think clients jump ship when it comes to readings

is

> > > > because

> > > > > > it's

> > > > > > > human

> > > > > > > > nature first which is never satisfied and secondly

the

> > > > answer

> > > > > > given

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > confusing. Say as for me, I am from Nepal, and I

have

> > > > consulted

> > > > > > few

> > > > > > > > astrologers here on paid basis. But all of them had

> > > > different

> > > > > > > versions and

> > > > > > > > no one was specific. So I have tried to get answers

> from

> > > > > learned

> > > > > > > astrologers

> > > > > > > > from India by posting in some of the .

And 2-

> > 3

> > > > > people

> > > > > > > who have

> > > > > > > > replied me also had different versions. My query was

as

> > > > follows:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Currently, I am working in a private insurance

company

> > in

> > > > Nepal

> > > > > > but

> > > > > > > I would

> > > > > > > > like to change my job or start a new business

because

> > the

> > > > > > current

> > > > > > > job is

> > > > > > > > mentally and physically not satisfying to me. I have

> > been

> > > > > > looking

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > another job for a long time and hasn't been

successful

> > yet.

> > > > I

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > to look

> > > > > > > > after my mom and younger sister so I can't go to

> foreign

> > > > > country

> > > > > > > also. I

> > > > > > > > want to be established in my home country. If change

is

> > > > there

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > me, when

> > > > > > > > will it be and which career path shall I follow?

Will

> it

> > be

> > > > > > another

> > > > > > > job or

> > > > > > > > start a new business? Which field is best for me and

if

> > I

> > > > start

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > business,

> > > > > > > > is partnership OK for me or not?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My mom wants me to get married but I am not

interested

> > > right

> > > > > now

> > > > > > > coz I

> > > > > > > > haven't been established successfully in my career

path

> > and

> > > > > also

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > don't

> > > > > > > > know what kind of girl she will be. About my

marriage,

> > when

> > > > > will

> > > > > > it

> > > > > > > take

> > > > > > > > place? Will it be arranged or love marriage? And

what

> > kind

> > > > of

> > > > > > girl

> > > > > > > will she

> > > > > > > > be?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > And like to know about my health also? How will it

be

> in

> > my

> > > > > > future?

> > > > > > > (My

> > > > > > > > father died of bone cancer in 2001 and younger

sister

> > died

> > > > of

> > > > > > > Encephalitis

> > > > > > > > in 2005). I am going through lot of mental and

physical

> > ups

> > > > and

> > > > > > > downs.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Is there foreign travel or foreign settlement for

me? I

> > > have

> > > > > > only

> > > > > > > travelled

> > > > > > > > once to India in 2001 only. If so, when and where?

> > > (However,

> > > > I

> > > > > > > prefer

> > > > > > > > settling in my own country but love to travel for

> > pleasure

> > > > and

> > > > > > > work.)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Date of Birth: 12 January, 1976

> > > > > > > > Time of Birth: 11:05 AM NST (10:50 AM IST)

> > > > > > > > Place of Birth: Kathmandu, Nepal

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The answers I got was like for my career, some say I

> > will

> > > > > change

> > > > > > > career

> > > > > > > > right after my birthday, some said after few years,

and

> > > some

> > > > > say

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > will not.

> > > > > > > > What I wanted to know was whether I will change my

> > career

> > > > and

> > > > > if

> > > > > > > so, which

> > > > > > > > time (month or year) and which field will I choose.

> > > > Similarly

> > > > > > for my

> > > > > > > > marriage, one said I will marry in Feb./Mar. of

2007,

> > one

> > > > said

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > 2009,

> > > > > > > > other said 2010. For health, some suggested me to

wear

> > > > > > Tourmaline,

> > > > > > > some to

> > > > > > > > enhance Mars, some to wear Garnet, some cat's eye,

etc.

> > For

> > > > > > foreign

> > > > > > > travel,

> > > > > > > > one said that I will settle in foreign country after

> > 2007,

> > > > one

> > > > > > said

> > > > > > > I will

> > > > > > > > not settle but chance of visting foreign countries

for

> > > > > pleasure,

> > > > > > > one said I

> > > > > > > > will not travel to foreign country and one said

there

> > may

> > > be

> > > > > > chance

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > future. But nobody was specific and all conflicting.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So when people get different answers without any

> > specific

> > > > > > answers,

> > > > > > > then it

> > > > > > > > urges people to seek help from others expecting the

> next

> > > one

> > > > > may

> > > > > > be

> > > > > > > specific

> > > > > > > > and solve the problems. Maybe, my urge to seek

answers

> > > > > > specifically

> > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > chosen you for the answers to my questions, if you

> could

> > > > guide

> > > > > > me

> > > > > > > properly.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Rajan

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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> > > > What

> > > > > > makes

> > > > > > > > nativities/clients jump ship when it comes to

readings!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Posted by: "Rohiniranjan" <jyotish_vani@?

> > Subject=Re:

> > > > > > > > What%20makes%20nativities%2Fclients%20jump%20ship%

> 20when%

> > > > 20it%

> > > > > > > 20comes%20to%2

> > > > > > > > 0readings%21> jyotish_vani@

> > > > > > > > <http://profiles./rohinicrystal>

rohinicrystal

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:51 pm (PST)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Banshiji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > After reading Kumar ji's posting, I am beginning to

> > wonder

> > > > if

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > might have possibly thought that I was criticizing

> those

> > > > other

> > > > > > > > astrologers that may have read for you in the past.

I

> > must

> > > > > > clarify

> > > > > > > > that no that was not (never has been -- no matter

what

> > they

> > > > > tell

> > > > > > > > you!) my intent ;-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I was and am sincerely trying to fathom the

following

> > > things:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What is it that makes a client (paying or otherwise)

go

> > for

> > > > a

> > > > > > > second

> > > > > > > > opinion after receiving their first astrological

> reading?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If failure of the first reading, after waiting out

the

> > > > period

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > prediction, generally months to years (!) then that

is

> > > > > > absolutely

> > > > > > > > legitimate.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > But if it happens before the reading/prediction

period

> > has

> > > > run

> > > > > > out

> > > > > > > > then, is it because:

> > > > > > > > = The astrologer was unimpressive and unconvincing?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > = The reading experience was not what the client

> > fantasized

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > expected?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > = Was the reading fine but the astrologer not? As in

> too

> > > > > > > > uncommunicative, difficult to understand, other

reasons?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hopefully you will share your experiences without

> naming

> > > > names!

> > > > > > And

> > > > > > > > others too who have suffered similar situations!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > <%40>

> > > > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan"

> > > > > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Banshiji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I am sorry to hear that different astrologers gave

> you

> > > > > > different

> > > > > > > > > interpretation, but I am curious about one thing.

> > After

> > > > > > receiving

> > > > > > > > > your reading from the first astrologer, why did

you

> go

> > to

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > second

> > > > > > > > > one?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please share if you do not mind. I am always

curious

> > > about

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > mental

> > > > > > > > > process that makes us go seek a reading.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > <%40>

> > > > > > > > , "BANSHI AGARWAL"

> > > > > > > > > <banshi1206@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Respected Swamiji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I have been confused by the astrologers about

the

> > > > outcome

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > jupiter

> > > > > > > > > > maha dasa..My dBirthday details are as follows:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > DOB:12TH JUNE 1971

> > > > > > > > > > TIME:13:45 HRS

> > > > > > > > > > PLACE: KOLKATA,INDIA

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Currently i m running Rahu-Mars period & on 5-12-

> > 2006

> > > > > > jupiter

> > > > > > > > maha

> > > > > > > > > > dasa will start.Some astrologers are saying that

it

> > > will

> > > > be

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > worst period of my life because jupiter has

> > > > kendraadhipati

> > > > > > > > > > dosa,maraka & its placement in 3rd house very

> bad.So

> > i

> > > > > > should

> > > > > > > do

> > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > lot of remedies in this dasa.

> > > > > > > > > > Some astrolgers are saying that it will be the

best

> > > > period

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > life because jupiter is most beneficial planet

as

> > well

> > > > as

> > > > > > > karaka

> > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > wealth.It doesnt have kendraadhipati dosa

because

> it

> > is

> > > > not

> > > > > > > > > situated

> > > > > > > > > > in kendra,again it has great power due to his

> > placement

> > > > in

> > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > > friendly & exalted planet mars house.Again it

> > aspects

> > > on

> > > > > > > > > > 7th,9th,11th so it will be the best time.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I m very confused Swamiji,will you please help

me

> to

> > > > solve

> > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > puzzle.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Banshidhar Agarwal

> > > > > > > > > > 98300 72369

> > > > > > > > > >

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[Guest guest]

The book says 1988, your website says 1986. Perhaps you should check

with an official source in Nepal (governments usually have the

information in city halls etc). Are you in Nepal these days or

someone there can find out the exact date when IST was replaced by

NST. It is recent information and should be easy to find out.

 

Before we go skeet-shooting with data, it would be important to

figure this out. Your situation has turned out to be a good

illustration of the confused state of birth data that are often

utilized or given and utilized without critical examination.

 

RR

 

, "prakriti_the_nature"

<rajan wrote:

>

> Dear Rohiniranjan ji,

> Perhaps you are right. I checked on some websites and found that

> Nepal started using NST only from 1986. So this means, the time

> recorded on my birth certificate (11:05 AM) may be actually IST.

> Since my father has died, I checked with my mother and she says she

> know it was 11:05 AM but no idea whether it is NST or IST. So I

> think it may be that the recorded time of 11:05 AM might be

actually

> IST. Does 10:50 or 11:05 gives different result for me? Or one

other

> way to verify is that you can verify with some past events in my

> life. If you need to know anything from my past to verify your

data,

> I can furnish that.For your reference, my father died on 28th

> October, 2001 and my younger sister died on 23rd November, 2005. I

> got employed on my current job on 26th May, 2003. And my only

> foreign trip was to India on 3rd September, 2001. I hope these

> events may help you in calculating exact details on me.

> Regards,

> Rajan

>

>

> , "Rohiniranjan"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Nepal started using NST in 1988 (clocks set 15 minutes ahead of

> > India) according to Time changes in the World by Doris Chase

> Doane.

> > Perhaps you can confirm from local officials or local official

> > publications and report back.

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , "prakriti_the_nature"

> > <rajan@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rohiniranjan ji,

> > > But I think Nepal was using NST, not IST during 1976. So it

> should

> > > be 11:05 AM NST. And even my janampatrika bears the same chart

> > based

> > > on 11:05 AM NST. I have always used 11:05 AM NST as my birth

> time.

> > > Regards,

> > > Rajan

> > > , "Rohiniranjan"

> > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > So that would make it 11:05 IST because IST was what was in

> use

> > in

> > > > your birth year. Do you agree?

> > > >

> > > > 11:05 IST and not 11:05 NST as indicated by you below but

> rather

> > > > 10:50 NST.

> > > >

> > > > The astrologers you were criticising at one point -- did they

> use

> > > > 11:05 NST because that is what you told them perhaps, in the

> past?

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > >

, "prakriti_the_nature"

> > > > <rajan@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rohiniranjan ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Sorry for late reply. Was engaged in Dipawali celebration.

> The

> > > > > source of birth data is from my mother as well as I checked

> the

> > > > > hospital record given to us. The birth time is 11:05 AM.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Rajan

> > > > >

> > > > > , "Rohiniranjan"

> > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But Nepal Standard Time was not even in effect in 1976!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Let me repeat! If you are serious, you must tell me the

> > source

> > > of

> > > > > > birthdata. Is it from a verbal account (parent's

> > recollection)

> > > or

> > > > > a

> > > > > > family diary or record? What were the numbers

representing

> > the

> > > > > time

> > > > > > recorded there? 11:05 or 10:50?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please respond seriously and give full information.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > , "prakriti_the_nature"

> > > > > > <rajan@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rohiniranjan ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Time of Birth: 11:05 AM Nepal Standard Time

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Rajan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan"

> > > > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > For starters and I am posting this publicly in case

> > others

> > > > > also

> > > > > > > work

> > > > > > > > on your chart!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In 1976 Nepal was using IST.

> > > > > > > > Is your recorded time 10:50 or 11:05 AM (recorded

> time!)

> > > > > > > > Always when the ducks are moving as in the case of

> your

> > > > > birthdata

> > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > is wise to also include details about the source of

> > > > > information.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It is best to give the actual recorded time always

> > > > > particularly

> > > > > > > when

> > > > > > > > the locality is in an area/country with time changes

> > > etc. :-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 15 minutes is a lot to throw calculations off.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , "Rajan S.

> Malla"

> > > > > > <rajan@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I think clients jump ship when it comes to readings

> is

> > > > > because

> > > > > > > it's

> > > > > > > > human

> > > > > > > > > nature first which is never satisfied and secondly

> the

> > > > > answer

> > > > > > > given

> > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > confusing. Say as for me, I am from Nepal, and I

> have

> > > > > consulted

> > > > > > > few

> > > > > > > > > astrologers here on paid basis. But all of them had

> > > > > different

> > > > > > > > versions and

> > > > > > > > > no one was specific. So I have tried to get answers

> > from

> > > > > > learned

> > > > > > > > astrologers

> > > > > > > > > from India by posting in some of the .

> And 2-

> > > 3

> > > > > > people

> > > > > > > > who have

> > > > > > > > > replied me also had different versions. My query

was

> as

> > > > > follows:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Currently, I am working in a private insurance

> company

> > > in

> > > > > Nepal

> > > > > > > but

> > > > > > > > I would

> > > > > > > > > like to change my job or start a new business

> because

> > > the

> > > > > > > current

> > > > > > > > job is

> > > > > > > > > mentally and physically not satisfying to me. I

have

> > > been

> > > > > > > looking

> > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > another job for a long time and hasn't been

> successful

> > > yet.

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > to look

> > > > > > > > > after my mom and younger sister so I can't go to

> > foreign

> > > > > > country

> > > > > > > > also. I

> > > > > > > > > want to be established in my home country. If

change

> is

> > > > > there

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > me, when

> > > > > > > > > will it be and which career path shall I follow?

> Will

> > it

> > > be

> > > > > > > another

> > > > > > > > job or

> > > > > > > > > start a new business? Which field is best for me

and

> if

> > > I

> > > > > start

> > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > business,

> > > > > > > > > is partnership OK for me or not?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > My mom wants me to get married but I am not

> interested

> > > > right

> > > > > > now

> > > > > > > > coz I

> > > > > > > > > haven't been established successfully in my career

> path

> > > and

> > > > > > also

> > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > don't

> > > > > > > > > know what kind of girl she will be. About my

> marriage,

> > > when

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > take

> > > > > > > > > place? Will it be arranged or love marriage? And

> what

> > > kind

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > girl

> > > > > > > > will she

> > > > > > > > > be?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > And like to know about my health also? How will it

> be

> > in

> > > my

> > > > > > > future?

> > > > > > > > (My

> > > > > > > > > father died of bone cancer in 2001 and younger

> sister

> > > died

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > Encephalitis

> > > > > > > > > in 2005). I am going through lot of mental and

> physical

> > > ups

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > downs.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Is there foreign travel or foreign settlement for

> me? I

> > > > have

> > > > > > > only

> > > > > > > > travelled

> > > > > > > > > once to India in 2001 only. If so, when and where?

> > > > (However,

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > > prefer

> > > > > > > > > settling in my own country but love to travel for

> > > pleasure

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > work.)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: 12 January, 1976

> > > > > > > > > Time of Birth: 11:05 AM NST (10:50 AM IST)

> > > > > > > > > Place of Birth: Kathmandu, Nepal

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The answers I got was like for my career, some say

I

> > > will

> > > > > > change

> > > > > > > > career

> > > > > > > > > right after my birthday, some said after few years,

> and

> > > > some

> > > > > > say

> > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > will not.

> > > > > > > > > What I wanted to know was whether I will change my

> > > career

> > > > > and

> > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > so, which

> > > > > > > > > time (month or year) and which field will I choose.

> > > > > Similarly

> > > > > > > for my

> > > > > > > > > marriage, one said I will marry in Feb./Mar. of

> 2007,

> > > one

> > > > > said

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > 2009,

> > > > > > > > > other said 2010. For health, some suggested me to

> wear

> > > > > > > Tourmaline,

> > > > > > > > some to

> > > > > > > > > enhance Mars, some to wear Garnet, some cat's eye,

> etc.

> > > For

> > > > > > > foreign

> > > > > > > > travel,

> > > > > > > > > one said that I will settle in foreign country

after

> > > 2007,

> > > > > one

> > > > > > > said

> > > > > > > > I will

> > > > > > > > > not settle but chance of visting foreign countries

> for

> > > > > > pleasure,

> > > > > > > > one said I

> > > > > > > > > will not travel to foreign country and one said

> there

> > > may

> > > > be

> > > > > > > chance

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > future. But nobody was specific and all

conflicting.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > So when people get different answers without any

> > > specific

> > > > > > > answers,

> > > > > > > > then it

> > > > > > > > > urges people to seek help from others expecting the

> > next

> > > > one

> > > > > > may

> > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > specific

> > > > > > > > > and solve the problems. Maybe, my urge to seek

> answers

> > > > > > > specifically

> > > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > chosen you for the answers to my questions, if you

> > could

> > > > > guide

> > > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > properly.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Rajan

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

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> > >

> > > > > What

> > > > > > > makes

> > > > > > > > > nativities/clients jump ship when it comes to

> readings!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Posted by: "Rohiniranjan" <jyotish_vani@?

> > > Subject=Re:

> > > > > > > > > What%20makes%20nativities%2Fclients%20jump%20ship%

> > 20when%

> > > > > 20it%

> > > > > > > > 20comes%20to%2

> > > > > > > > > 0readings%21> jyotish_vani@

> > > > > > > > > <http://profiles./rohinicrystal>

> rohinicrystal

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:51 pm (PST)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Banshiji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > After reading Kumar ji's posting, I am beginning to

> > > wonder

> > > > > if

> > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > might have possibly thought that I was criticizing

> > those

> > > > > other

> > > > > > > > > astrologers that may have read for you in the past.

> I

> > > must

> > > > > > > clarify

> > > > > > > > > that no that was not (never has been -- no matter

> what

> > > they

> > > > > > tell

> > > > > > > > > you!) my intent ;-)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I was and am sincerely trying to fathom the

> following

> > > > things:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What is it that makes a client (paying or

otherwise)

> go

> > > for

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > > second

> > > > > > > > > opinion after receiving their first astrological

> > reading?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > If failure of the first reading, after waiting out

> the

> > > > > period

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > prediction, generally months to years (!) then that

> is

> > > > > > > absolutely

> > > > > > > > > legitimate.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > But if it happens before the reading/prediction

> period

> > > has

> > > > > run

> > > > > > > out

> > > > > > > > > then, is it because:

> > > > > > > > > = The astrologer was unimpressive and unconvincing?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > = The reading experience was not what the client

> > > fantasized

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > expected?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > = Was the reading fine but the astrologer not? As

in

> > too

> > > > > > > > > uncommunicative, difficult to understand, other

> reasons?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hopefully you will share your experiences without

> > naming

> > > > > names!

> > > > > > > And

> > > > > > > > > others too who have suffered similar situations!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > <%40>

> > > > > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan"

> > > > > > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Banshiji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I am sorry to hear that different astrologers

gave

> > you

> > > > > > > different

> > > > > > > > > > interpretation, but I am curious about one thing.

> > > After

> > > > > > > receiving

> > > > > > > > > > your reading from the first astrologer, why did

> you

> > go

> > > to

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > second

> > > > > > > > > > one?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Please share if you do not mind. I am always

> curious

> > > > about

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > mental

> > > > > > > > > > process that makes us go seek a reading.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > <%

40>

> > > > > > > > > , "BANSHI AGARWAL"

> > > > > > > > > > <banshi1206@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Respected Swamiji,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I have been confused by the astrologers about

> the

> > > > > outcome

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > jupiter

> > > > > > > > > > > maha dasa..My dBirthday details are as follows:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > DOB:12TH JUNE 1971

> > > > > > > > > > > TIME:13:45 HRS

> > > > > > > > > > > PLACE: KOLKATA,INDIA

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Currently i m running Rahu-Mars period & on 5-

12-

> > > 2006

> > > > > > > jupiter

> > > > > > > > > maha

> > > > > > > > > > > dasa will start.Some astrologers are saying

that

> it

> > > > will

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > worst period of my life because jupiter has

> > > > > kendraadhipati

> > > > > > > > > > > dosa,maraka & its placement in 3rd house very

> > bad.So

> > > i

> > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > do

> > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > lot of remedies in this dasa.

> > > > > > > > > > > Some astrolgers are saying that it will be the

> best

> > > > > period

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > > life because jupiter is most beneficial planet

> as

> > > well

> > > > > as

> > > > > > > > karaka

> > > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > wealth.It doesnt have kendraadhipati dosa

> because

> > it

> > > is

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > situated

> > > > > > > > > > > in kendra,again it has great power due to his

> > > placement

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > > > friendly & exalted planet mars house.Again it

> > > aspects

> > > > on

> > > > > > > > > > > 7th,9th,11th so it will be the best time.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I m very confused Swamiji,will you please help

> me

> > to

> > > > > solve

> > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > > puzzle.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Banshidhar Agarwal

> > > > > > > > > > > 98300 72369

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

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Please delete the lower part of this thread while replying. The message has become too heavy.

 

 

 

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Rohiniranjan

Saturday, 28 October, 2006 04:06

Re: What makes nativities/clients jump ship when it comes to readings!

 

 

The book says 1988, your website says 1986. Perhaps you should check

with an official source in Nepal (governments usually have the

information in city halls etc). Are you in Nepal these days or

someone there can find out the exact date when IST was replaced by

NST. It is recent information and should be easy to find out.

 

Before we go skeet-shooting with data, it would be important to

figure this out. Your situation has turned out to be a good

illustration of the confused state of birth data that are often

utilized or given and utilized without critical examination.

 

RR

 

, "prakriti_the_nature"

<rajan wrote:

>

> Dear Rohiniranjan ji,

> Perhaps you are right. I checked on some websites and found that

> Nepal started using NST only from 1986. So this means, the time

> recorded on my birth certificate (11:05 AM) may be actually IST.

> Since my father has died, I checked with my mother and she says she

> know it was 11:05 AM but no idea whether it is NST or IST. So I

> think it may be that the recorded time of 11:05 AM might be

actually

> IST. Does 10:50 or 11:05 gives different result for me? Or one

other

> way to verify is that you can verify with some past events in my

> life. If you need to know anything from my past to verify your

data,

> I can furnish that.For your reference, my father died on 28th

> October, 2001 and my younger sister died on 23rd November, 2005. I

> got employed on my current job on 26th May, 2003. And my only

> foreign trip was to India on 3rd September, 2001. I hope these

> events may help you in calculating exact details on me.

> Regards,

> Rajan

>

>

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Very good advice, Ashutoshji. With the current improvement in the way

displays the thread tree, perhaps we all should do exactly that

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Dear Rohiniranjan ji,

I checked 2/3 websites and they all say it was 1986. However, since

I am in Nepal now, I will try to check here also and let you know

after sometime.

Regards,

Rajan

 

, "Rohiniranjan"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> The book says 1988, your website says 1986. Perhaps you should

check

> with an official source in Nepal (governments usually have the

> information in city halls etc). Are you in Nepal these days or

> someone there can find out the exact date when IST was replaced by

> NST. It is recent information and should be easy to find out.

>

> Before we go skeet-shooting with data, it would be important to

> figure this out. Your situation has turned out to be a good

> illustration of the confused state of birth data that are often

> utilized or given and utilized without critical examination.

>

> RR

>

> , "prakriti_the_nature"

> <rajan@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rohiniranjan ji,

> > Perhaps you are right. I checked on some websites and found that

> > Nepal started using NST only from 1986. So this means, the time

> > recorded on my birth certificate (11:05 AM) may be actually IST.

> > Since my father has died, I checked with my mother and she says

she

> > know it was 11:05 AM but no idea whether it is NST or IST. So I

> > think it may be that the recorded time of 11:05 AM might be

> actually

> > IST. Does 10:50 or 11:05 gives different result for me? Or one

> other

> > way to verify is that you can verify with some past events in my

> > life. If you need to know anything from my past to verify your

> data,

> > I can furnish that.For your reference, my father died on 28th

> > October, 2001 and my younger sister died on 23rd November, 2005.

I

> > got employed on my current job on 26th May, 2003. And my only

> > foreign trip was to India on 3rd September, 2001. I hope these

> > events may help you in calculating exact details on me.

> > Regards,

> > Rajan

> >

> >

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Dear Rohiniranjan ji,

 

I couldn't get anything from official source. However, I consulted with

some senior persons and according to them, the time in Kathmandu (maybe

different for different cities) at that time was used as GMT+5:40. So

the clock was adjusted for 5 minutes to the present time (presently it's

GMT+5:45).

 

I hope you can use this info or cross-check the incidents that I have

provided you of my past events. Waiting eagerly for your analysis.

 

Regards,

 

Rajan

 

 

, "prakriti_the_nature"

<rajan wrote:

>

> Dear Rohiniranjan ji,

> I checked 2/3 websites and they all say it was 1986. However, since

> I am in Nepal now, I will try to check here also and let you know

> after sometime.

> Regards,

> Rajan

>

> , "Rohiniranjan"

> jyotish_vani@ wrote:

> >

> > The book says 1988, your website says 1986. Perhaps you should

> check

> > with an official source in Nepal (governments usually have the

> > information in city halls etc). Are you in Nepal these days or

> > someone there can find out the exact date when IST was replaced by

> > NST. It is recent information and should be easy to find out.

> >

> > Before we go skeet-shooting with data, it would be important to

> > figure this out. Your situation has turned out to be a good

> > illustration of the confused state of birth data that are often

> > utilized or given and utilized without critical examination.

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , "prakriti_the_nature"

> > <rajan@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rohiniranjan ji,

> > > Perhaps you are right. I checked on some websites and found that

> > > Nepal started using NST only from 1986. So this means, the time

> > > recorded on my birth certificate (11:05 AM) may be actually IST.

> > > Since my father has died, I checked with my mother and she says

> she

> > > know it was 11:05 AM but no idea whether it is NST or IST. So I

> > > think it may be that the recorded time of 11:05 AM might be

> > actually

> > > IST. Does 10:50 or 11:05 gives different result for me? Or one

> > other

> > > way to verify is that you can verify with some past events in my

> > > life. If you need to know anything from my past to verify your

> > data,

> > > I can furnish that.For your reference, my father died on 28th

> > > October, 2001 and my younger sister died on 23rd November, 2005.

> I

> > > got employed on my current job on 26th May, 2003. And my only

> > > foreign trip was to India on 3rd September, 2001. I hope these

> > > events may help you in calculating exact details on me.

> > > Regards,

> > > Rajan

> > >

> > >

>