Official Ramakanta vs. IRM discussion thread

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Posted by Yaduraja on Oct 13, 2006:

 

Dear Ramakanta Prabhu,

PAMHO. AGTSP!

You say:

 

> I ignore your attempt to shift the burden of proof to me. Especially

> because you have not backed up by quotes your assumption that the

> authorization to be a diksa guru in ISKCON must be something given to the

> GBC.

 

You obviously have not understood how Srila Prabhupada left ISKCON to run.

This may explain you utter confusion and inability to either disprove our

position or provide a counter position. The NCIP paper you said you had read

contains the relevant evidence. If it is possible for you, please try to

understand the following points:

 

1)Srila Prabhupada left the GBC to manage ISKCON. Do you agree?

 

2)He left in place a system of management by which the GBC were to manage,

including a system for managing initiations (July 9th) which simply

perpetuated the status quo you agree he established way back in 1966. Do you

agree?

 

3)He left no authority for the GBC to change this system that has ever been

presented by the GBC. Do you agree?

 

4)Therefore the system of management, including how initiation was to run,

must remain the same pending such RELEVANT evidence. Do you agree?

 

Therefore the burden of proof falls on you to show where, when and how the

GBC were suddenly authorised to change the system of initiation. Do you

agree?

 

Instead of doing this you offer irrelevant conversations that you admit do

not contain this authorisation. Obviously you can try to prove any nonsense

by only offering evidence that is irrelevant to the debate.

you write:

 

> Yes, please follow Srila Prabhupada's instruction and at once back up your

> point c) by quotes from Srila Prabhupada saying that his disciples are not

> authorized to be diksa gurus in ISKCON, that they cannot make their own

> disciples.

 

Please re-read what I actually claimed about the quotes where Srila

Prabhupada was asked who would succeed him. When you have re-read my actual

claim you will find these quotes in TFO, just look for the word ‘succeed’.

 

"I am already successful"

 

Best wishes

Ys

Yadu