Guest guest Posted October 14, 2006 Report Share Posted October 14, 2006 H.N.Sreenivasa Murthy Pranams to all. SHARING THE WISDOM- Part 2 The entity that connects waking and dream states is not the ego of the either state, BUT THE WITNESS OR THE SPIRIT WHICH IS FREE FROM INDIVIDUALITY. * The point of identity in " I dreamt " has been reached unconsciously laying aside all the differentia between dreaming and waking individuals till only Pure Consciousness remained. When by reflection one arrives at Pure Consciousness, not as an object nor as the subject, BUT, AS THE BASIS LYING DEEPER THAN BOTH, AS RESPONSIBLE FOR BOTH, ONE CANNOT BUT REALIZE IT AS ONE'S INNERMOST SELF. And this ILLUMINATION of one'S Brahmic nature ought to end AT ONCE one's ignorance and misery. * With warm and respectful regards, Sreenivasa Murthy Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 advaitin, ombhurbhuva <ombhurbhuva wrote: > > > Namaste Peterji, > what Shankara has to say about the dream > in his commentary on the Karika of Gaudapada has to be > balanced with that which is in B.S.B. II.ii.29. > "With regard to this we say, the perceptions of the > waking state cannot be classed with those in a dream. > Why? > Because of difference of characteristics; for waking and > dream states are really different in nature." >> The extreme sceptical position which proposes that > all this might also be a dream has its proponents both > East and West. Generally this springs from an idealist > viewpoint which makes the experience of the individual > the cornerstone. In other words we construct our > conceptual schema on the basis of what we are > directly in contact with namely our own personal > experience. It is an influential doctrine but it is > riddled with paradoxes. Again Shankara specifically > dismisses it in B.S.B. > > Some have settled on the position of Gaudapada in > the Karika as a point to defend. Others, learned > historians of Indian thought, hold that there > was influence of Madhamika thought in there. > In that case the idealist bias is explained and > Shankara's commentary amounts to 'it says here'. > There would also be the reluctance to directly > contradict his revered grand-guru. > > Best Wishes, > Michael. > ShrIgurubhyo NamaH Namaste Michael ji, Does the above suggest that Shankara has not spoken about the equating of the waking with dream anywhere outside of the Karika ? Warm regards, subbu Om Tat Sat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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