Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 Dear all, some of you may have been a member of Ramana Maharshi group (which was originally Miles group) and Atma Vichara group (which was mine). Both lists have been deleted independently of each other. I deleted Atma Vichara Group last Saturday evening without a parting message as I felt there is no point to continue with it anymore and there was also no active participation of members. I don't think anyone will feel the loss so much. Perhaps a parting message should have been posted. I appologize if its sudden disappearance gave troubles to someone. Ramana Maharshi-list was also deleted as it has become most questionable to continue the line it had taken since a longer span of time. But - to make it clear - it was not Miles who did it. This may be important for some to know. Miles was at this time no member of the list anymore. More I may not say - and it may suffice to settle some questions. For those who feel a bit homeless and would like to join a new Ramana- dedicated place - there is a new small group on google: http://groups.google.comRamanaMaharshi Also Acalayoga-forum is a fine place: http://acalayoga.suddenlaunch3.com/index.cgi Kind Regards Gabriele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 Thanks Gabriele for letting us know. I think the RamanaMaharshi list was quite large. Too bad that the members received no notice that it was going to be deleted. Hope all is well with moderators and members. Love to all Harsha ramanamaharshideutschland wrote: > > Dear all, > > some of you may have been a member of Ramana Maharshi group (which > was > originally Miles group) and Atma Vichara group (which was mine). > Both > lists have been deleted independently of each other. > > I deleted Atma Vichara Group last Saturday evening without a parting > message as I felt there is > no point to continue with it anymore and there was also no active > participation of members. I don't think anyone will feel the loss so > much. Perhaps a parting message should have been posted. I > appologize if its sudden disappearance gave troubles to someone. > > Ramana Maharshi-list was also deleted as it has become most > questionable to continue the line it had taken since a longer span > of > time. But - to make it clear - it was not Miles who did it. This may > be important for some to know. Miles was at this time no member of > the list anymore. More I may not say - and it may suffice to settle > some questions. > > For those who feel a bit homeless and would like to join a new > Ramana- > dedicated place - there is a new small group on google: > http://groups.google.comRamanaMaharshi > <http://groups.google.comRamanaMaharshi> > > Also Acalayoga-forum is a fine place: > http://acalayoga.suddenlaunch3.com/index.cgi > <http://acalayoga.suddenlaunch3.com/index.cgi> > > Kind Regards > Gabriele > > -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Thank you, Harsha - all is well with the moderators - so far I know. To members which have been suddenly "thrown out" without a warning notice or letting know - we apologize sincerely! Trust all is well with them also. I forgot to mention Miles "The Sage"-list, which always went in parallels to the big Ramana Maharshi-list and was a silent place. This is still alive and also may serve as a most valid alternative. The_Sage_of_Arunachala/ To make a new start now is perhaps a big chance, so we shall look ahead - not back. love to all Gabriele , Harsha wrote: > > Thanks Gabriele for letting us know. I think the RamanaMaharshi list was > quite large. Too bad that the members received no notice that it was > going to be deleted. > Hope all is well with moderators and members. > > Love to all > Harsha > > > > ramanamaharshideutschland wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > some of you may have been a member of Ramana Maharshi group (which > > was > > originally Miles group) and Atma Vichara group (which was mine). > > Both > > lists have been deleted independently of each other. > > > > I deleted Atma Vichara Group last Saturday evening without a parting > > message as I felt there is > > no point to continue with it anymore and there was also no active > > participation of members. I don't think anyone will feel the loss so > > much. Perhaps a parting message should have been posted. I > > appologize if its sudden disappearance gave troubles to someone. > > > > Ramana Maharshi-list was also deleted as it has become most > > questionable to continue the line it had taken since a longer span > > of > > time. But - to make it clear - it was not Miles who did it. This may > > be important for some to know. Miles was at this time no member of > > the list anymore. More I may not say - and it may suffice to settle > > some questions. > > > > For those who feel a bit homeless and would like to join a new > > Ramana- > > dedicated place - there is a new small group on google: > > http://groups.google.comRamanaMaharshi > > <http://groups.google.comRamanaMaharshi> > > > > Also Acalayoga-forum is a fine place: > > http://acalayoga.suddenlaunch3.com/index.cgi > > <http://acalayoga.suddenlaunch3.com/index.cgi> > > > > Kind Regards > > Gabriele > > > > > > > -- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Dear Gabriele, I am sorry to hear that the Ramana Marharshi group was cancelled. I had been a member for years, and feel it is a part of my family. For those who are interested, I started a related group, PracticeofSelfInquiry/ All are welcome. Not two, Richard , "ramanamaharshideutschland" <ramanamaharshideutschland wrote: > > Dear all, > > some of you may have been a member of Ramana Maharshi group (which > was > originally Miles group) and Atma Vichara group (which was mine). > Both > lists have been deleted independently of each other. > > I deleted Atma Vichara Group last Saturday evening without a parting > message as I felt there is > no point to continue with it anymore and there was also no active > participation of members. I don't think anyone will feel the loss so > much. Perhaps a parting message should have been posted. I > appologize if its sudden disappearance gave troubles to someone. > > Ramana Maharshi-list was also deleted as it has become most > questionable to continue the line it had taken since a longer span > of > time. But - to make it clear - it was not Miles who did it. This may > be important for some to know. Miles was at this time no member of > the list anymore. More I may not say - and it may suffice to settle > some questions. > > For those who feel a bit homeless and would like to join a new > Ramana- > dedicated place - there is a new small group on google: > http://groups.google.comRamanaMaharshi > > Also Acalayoga-forum is a fine place: > http://acalayoga.suddenlaunch3.com/index.cgi > > Kind Regards > Gabriele > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Dear Gabriele and Richard, You are both wonderful people. Why not be a little more active in your communications right here in ? I wish you would. Peace and love, michael _____ [] On Behalf Of Richard Clarke Thursday, October 19, 2006 5:38 AM Re: Ramana Maharshi group and Atma Vichara group Dear Gabriele, I am sorry to hear that the Ramana Marharshi group was cancelled. I had been a member for years, and feel it is a part of my family. For those who are interested, I started a related group, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 *Good point Michael. We are also a mighty Sri Ramana Group. But we are modeled after Sri Ramanashram, where anything and everything was open to discussion with Sri Ramana including food recipes, health issues, Atma Vichara (of course), yoga, meditation, general human problems, arts, poetry, country music, etc. Sri Ramana used to say that the same issues and problems that exist in life also exist in the Ashram (Ramanashram). That's how things go. Where can we run away to? Give me bliss but let me not run too fast away from gossip! I can walk away slowly at my own pace with my ears picking up a little bit by themselves. Love to all Harsha* Michael Bowes wrote: > > Dear Gabriele and Richard, > > > > You are both wonderful people. Why not be a little more active in > your communications right here in ? > > > > I wish you would. > > > > Peace and love, > > > > michael > > > > ------ > > ** > [] *On Behalf Of *Richard Clarke > *Sent:* Thursday, October 19, 2006 5:38 AM > *To:* > *Subject:* Re: Ramana Maharshi group > and Atma Vichara group > > > > Dear Gabriele, > > I am sorry to hear that the Ramana Marharshi group was cancelled. I > had been a member for years, and feel it is a part of my family. > > For those who are interested, I started a related group, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 , "ramanamaharshideutschland" <ramanamaharshideutschland wrote: > > Thank you, Harsha - all is well with the moderators - so far I know. > To members which have been suddenly "thrown out" without a warning > notice or letting know - we apologize sincerely! Trust all is well > with them also. > I forgot to mention Miles "The Sage"-list, which always went in > parallels to the big Ramana Maharshi-list and was a silent place. > This is still alive and also may serve as a most valid alternative. Namaste, I had real problems with those groups as they were so Bhakti-Bhakti oriented, no real Ajativada, or Advaita discussion was entertained really.Most of the members seem to worship Ramana in a way he never would have taught himself. Also they all believed he was still 'around' in his subtle body somehow, when as a Mukta that had dropped the body nothing about 'Ramana' material or subtle could possibly exist......Only The Self........ONS.Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 , <aumshanti wrote: > > > ---- Tony OClery <aoclery wrote: > > , "ramanamaharshideutschland" > > <ramanamaharshideutschland@> wrote: > > > > > > Thank you, Harsha - all is well with the moderators - so far I > > know. > > > To members which have been suddenly "thrown out" without a warning > > > notice or letting know - we apologize sincerely! Trust all is well > > > with them also. > > > I forgot to mention Miles "The Sage"-list, which always went in > > > parallels to the big Ramana Maharshi-list and was a silent place. > > > This is still alive and also may serve as a most valid > > alternative. > > > > Namaste, > > > > I had real problems with those groups as they were so Bhakti- Bhakti > > oriented, no real Ajativada, or Advaita discussion was entertained > > really.Most of the members seem to worship Ramana in a way he never > > would have taught himself. > > > snip > > > Hi Tony, > > In regard to Ramana and his attitude toward Bhakti I would like to point out the famous photograph of him sitting as a model for the artist while his statue was being carved. I'm not at home now, so I can't find and attach the photo for you. But I will if need be when I get home. I brought to your attention on at least one other occasion and I'd be glad to do it again. > > Peace and love, > > michael > Namaste, Yes Muktas 'tolerate' all kinds of different Bhakti from those that are not mentally inclined to the complete Advaita. Ramana himself has said as much himself. My point was that he never taught as part of his philosophy that people should worship his form after his death--I don't think so anyway. I wrote Bhakti-Bhakti to illustrate what I was explaining, and that I had posts deleted that were completely in line with Ramana's teaching, that's where I got them. I never did see the cult that formed around him after his Samadhi as being what he taught. It really indicates that most of those Ramana Worshiping Bhaktas didn't absorb the teaching of 'Who am I?'. Worshiping his form subtle or no, might well as be any form, that is used in transference of an image to a person's own higher Self. Most took the Bhakti far beyond the concentration stage, and I found it very strange, considering what he taught. Even stranger was the cult type 'censorship' that arose to protect this particular preliminary path and behaviour. It just seemed incongrous to me that such dualists from the West, particularly, would choose such an Advaitin to worship, considering the amount of other gurus and pictures available..........ONS...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Dear Gabriele and all, With the RamanaMaharshi list and Atma Vichara list suddenly gone I have rejoined here. Good to 'see' you and other familiar names are here too. I think for many of us there was a real sense of 'family' on the RamanaMaharshi list, and it is a puzzle to me that a simple courtesy of at least informing members was beyond those who deleted the list. I look forward to reflecting on exchanges between members in this group and getting to know the good people here. best wishes to you and all at Peter , "ramanamaharshideutschland" <ramanamaharshideutschland wrote: > > Dear all, > > some of you may have been a member of Ramana Maharshi group (which > was > originally Miles group) and Atma Vichara group (which was mine). > Both > lists have been deleted independently of each other. > > I deleted Atma Vichara Group last Saturday evening without a parting > message as I felt there is > no point to continue with it anymore and there was also no active > participation of members. I don't think anyone will feel the loss so > much. Perhaps a parting message should have been posted. I > appologize if its sudden disappearance gave troubles to someone. > > Ramana Maharshi-list was also deleted as it has become most > questionable to continue the line it had taken since a longer span > of > time. But - to make it clear - it was not Miles who did it. This may > be important for some to know. Miles was at this time no member of > the list anymore. More I may not say - and it may suffice to settle > some questions. > > For those who feel a bit homeless and would like to join a new > Ramana- > dedicated place - there is a new small group on google: > http://groups.google.comRamanaMaharshi > > Also Acalayoga-forum is a fine place: > http://acalayoga.suddenlaunch3.com/index.cgi > > Kind Regards > Gabriele > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Dearest Peter, I am glad you are here. Bhagavan's devotees are like a family. Like you, I was also puzzled why the RamanaMaharshi list disappeared suddenly. However, we have all accepted that it has happened. Also, the kind moderator of RamanaMaharshi list Gabriele has written to us. Miles Wright, our dear brother and devotee in Bhagavan who was the original founder of the RamanaMaharshi list and I have been in touch. Miles, as many of you know, is a unique and a special devotee in that his knowledge of Bhagavan's teachings and works and Sanskrit is comprehensive. He is a treasure for Bhagavan's devotees and also has such a beautiful and warm disposition. By his actions and speech of authenticity and clear understanding, he is a role model for all of us. I have invited our brother Miles to this list as he is part of Bhagavan's family of devotees. I personally feel very good and comforted seeing Miles name on the screen. Of course, we can never impose on anyone and insist that they join and send our love regardless of that. There are many wise and wonderful people on this list and the list has its own personality which does not suit everyone. We do allow much more free flow of thinking, discussion, and at times even arguments and humor and poetry and stories. So, it is really a matter of taste and choice. Anyway, I like it here and am very grateful for the presence of such warmth and friendship. Lots of love Harsha bty_peter wrote: > > Dear Gabriele and all, > > With the RamanaMaharshi list and Atma Vichara list suddenly gone I > have rejoined here. Good to 'see' you and other familiar names are > here too. I think for many of us there was a real sense of 'family' > on the RamanaMaharshi list, and it is a puzzle to me that a simple > courtesy of at least informing members was beyond those who deleted > the list. > > I look forward to reflecting on exchanges between members in this > group and getting to know the good people here. > > best wishes to you and all at > > Peter > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Dear Harsha, Many thanks indeed for you warm welcome into the family. with love, Peter ________________________________ [] On Behalf Of Harsha 21 October 2006 16:19 Re: Re: Ramana Maharshi group and Atma Vichara group Dearest Peter, I am glad you are here. Bhagavan's devotees are like a family. <snip> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Dear Peter, Richard, Harsha and all, perhaps a last remark may be needed. RM-list deletion happened unexpected. Though it was discussed amongst us it was not yet decided - and at least if we would have decided it to be done, surely not without a parting message and so soon. Perhaps we would have found another solution also - I can't say. Most of the moderators did not know that it would happen this Sunday morning and had to bear the shock first hand. The deletion of the list was a lonely decision of one. Miles also knew nothing about it. I was on the list with a feeling that it would go soon the night before and saved some old messages from the archive. In the morning I wanted to continue - when suddenly I could not access the list anymore. At the same time another moderator tried and found out that it was deleted. We were shocked whole Sunday. But so things happen! Who knows why! Perhaps we learn from it. I really don't know. But never mind! All comes out right at the end. Deletion of AV-list also happened. I take over full responsibility for it and appologize. love to all Gabriele , "bty_peter" <not_2 wrote: > > Dear Gabriele and all, > > With the RamanaMaharshi list and Atma Vichara list suddenly gone I > have rejoined here. Good to 'see' you and other familiar names are > here too. I think for many of us there was a real sense of 'family' > on the RamanaMaharshi list, and it is a puzzle to me that a simple > courtesy of at least informing members was beyond those who deleted > the list. > > I look forward to reflecting on exchanges between members in this > group and getting to know the good people here. > > best wishes to you and all at > > Peter > > > > > > > , "ramanamaharshideutschland" > <ramanamaharshideutschland@> wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > some of you may have been a member of Ramana Maharshi group (which > > was > > originally Miles group) and Atma Vichara group (which was mine). > > Both > > lists have been deleted independently of each other. > > > > I deleted Atma Vichara Group last Saturday evening without a > parting > > message as I felt there is > > no point to continue with it anymore and there was also no active > > participation of members. I don't think anyone will feel the loss > so > > much. Perhaps a parting message should have been posted. I > > appologize if its sudden disappearance gave troubles to someone. > > > > Ramana Maharshi-list was also deleted as it has become most > > questionable to continue the line it had taken since a longer span > > of > > time. But - to make it clear - it was not Miles who did it. This > may > > be important for some to know. Miles was at this time no member of > > the list anymore. More I may not say - and it may suffice to > settle > > some questions. > > > > For those who feel a bit homeless and would like to join a new > > Ramana- > > dedicated place - there is a new small group on google: > > http://groups.google.comRamanaMaharshi > > > > Also Acalayoga-forum is a fine place: > > http://acalayoga.suddenlaunch3.com/index.cgi > > > > Kind Regards > > Gabriele > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.