Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Dear Phil, Your kind and patient interaction has sparked a memory in me and now I believe that I can clearly see your conclusion about the nature of Consciousness. _____ [] On Behalf Of souldreamone (AT) AOL (DOT) com Friday, October 20, 2006 7:59 PM Re: The Buzzword is LIFE snip Phil: No, I'm suggesting that the 'you' you think you are arises and falls within the Consciousness that You really are. When 'you' sleep, 'I' don't lose consciousness. This is so not because there are two consciousnesses that have nothing to do with each other, but because the Consciousness that we both are, hasn't gone anywhere just because you're sleeping. Consciousness is not a thing that can be divided into pieces parts; there's just Consciousness. When you sleep, you create a dreamscape. That dreamscape dissolves when the alarm clock goes off. Did your dream character die or lose consciousness, or does it simply arise and fall within your human consciousness? I've had enough of theories in my life. Understandable. I'm afraid I have no facts to offer, not even the ones you're no doubt quite certain of. mb -I have been pondering your comments and they have sparked a memory in me that I would like to share with you and the others on the list. One night about twenty years ago I was sleeping. I was not dreaming; but I was in deep sleep. Then an odd thing occurred. Without really waking me a thought came into my mind: "There is a snake or snakes in the house.", followed by this thought, "There is a snake or snakes coming into the house". I was sound asleep and those thoughts came to me without really waking me. And the experience was not like a dream; but there were only those brief thoughts. In the morning when I woke up, I prepared for meditation and then went downstairs to the meditation room. I opened the door and there lying in the middle of the floor was a young snake. It was lying in a relaxed type of coil and it was looking in the direction of the table where I kept a few pictures. Of course I immediately remembered the incident that had just happened in my sleep and I was astounded. I caught the snake and put it out and never really thought much about the incident until now. How could that have happened unless something was conscious of what was going on down stairs? This consciousness was aware and even transmitted the message to me. From this incident I can conclude that you and others who share the same belief about the pervasive nature of consciousness are correct and I have been wrong. Thank you for your comments, your presence and your patience. Warm regards, michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 How exciting! Your openness is an inspiration. Phil In a message dated 10/21/2006 9:36:14 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, aumshanti (AT) cox (DOT) net writes: Dear Phil, Your kind and patient interaction has sparked a memory in me and now I believe that I can clearly see your conclusion about the nature of Consciousness. __ [] On Behalf Of souldreamone (AT) AOL (DOT) com Friday, October 20, 2006 7:59 PM Re: [ - Ramana Guru] The Buzzword is LIFE snip Phil: No, I'm suggesting that the 'you' you think you are arises and falls within the Consciousness that You really are. When 'you' sleep, 'I' don't lose consciousness. This is so not because there are two consciousnesses that have nothing to do with each other, but because the Consciousness that we both are, hasn't gone anywhere just because you're sleeping. Consciousness is not a thing that can be divided into pieces parts; there's just Consciousness. When you sleep, you create a dreamscape. That dreamscape dissolves when the alarm clock goes off. Did your dream character die or lose consciousness, or does it simply arise and fall within your human consciousness? I’ve had enough of theories in my life. Understandable. I'm afraid I have no facts to offer, not even the ones you're no doubt quite certain of. mb –I have been pondering your comments and they have sparked a memory in me that I would like to share with you and the others on the list. One night about twenty years ago I was sleeping. I was not dreaming; but I was in deep sleep. Then an odd thing occurred. Without really waking me a thought came into my mind: “There is a snake or snakes in the house.â€, followed by this thought, “There is a snake or snakes coming into the houseâ€. I was sound asleep and those thoughts came to me without really waking me. And the experience was not like a dream; but there were only those brief thoughts. In the morning when I woke up, I prepared for meditation and then went downstairs to the meditation room. I opened the door and there lying in the middle of the floor was a young snake. It was lying in a relaxed type of coil and it was looking in the direction of the table where I kept a few pictures. Of course I immediately remembered the incident that had just happened in my sleep and I was astounded. I caught the snake and put it out and never really thought much about the incident until now. How could that have happened unless something was conscious of what was going on down stairs? This consciousness was aware and even transmitted the message to me. From this incident I can conclude that you and others who share the same belief about the pervasive nature of consciousness are correct and I have been wrong. Thank you for your comments, your presence and your patience. Warm regards, michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 , souldreamone wrote: > > > How exciting! > Your openness is an inspiration. > > Phil > > > > In a message dated 10/21/2006 9:36:14 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > aumshanti writes: > > > Dear Phil, > Your kind and patient interaction has sparked a memory in me and now I > believe that I can clearly see your conclusion about the nature of Consciousness. > > > __ > > > [] On Behalf Of souldreamone > Friday, October 20, 2006 7:59 PM > > Re: [ - Ramana Guru] The Buzzword is LIFE > > > > > > > > snip > > > > Phil: No, I'm suggesting that the 'you' you think you are arises and falls > within the Consciousness that You really are. When 'you' sleep, 'I' don't lose > consciousness. This is so not because there are two consciousnesses that > have nothing to do with each other, but because the Consciousness that we both > are, hasn't gone anywhere just because you're sleeping. Consciousness is not a > thing that can be divided into pieces parts; there's just Consciousness. > When you sleep, you create a dreamscape. That dreamscape dissolves when the > alarm clock goes off. Did your dream character die or lose consciousness, or does > it simply arise and fall within your human consciousness? > > > > > > I’ve had enough of theories in my life. > > > > > > Understandable. I'm afraid I have no facts to offer, not even the ones > you're no doubt quite certain of. > mb â€"I have been pondering your comments and they have sparked a memory in me > that I would like to share with you and the others on the list. > One night about twenty years ago I was sleeping. I was not dreaming; but I > was in deep sleep. Then an odd thing occurred. Without really waking me a > thought came into my mind: “There is a snake or snakes in the house.â€, > followed by this thought, “There is a snake or snakes coming into the houseâ€. > I was sound asleep and those thoughts came to me without really waking me. > And the experience was not like a dream; but there were only those brief > thoughts. > In the morning when I woke up, I prepared for meditation and then went > downstairs to the meditation room. I opened the door and there lying in the > middle of the floor was a young snake. It was lying in a relaxed type of coil and > it was looking in the direction of the table where I kept a few pictures. > Of course I immediately remembered the incident that had just happened in my > sleep and I was astounded. > I caught the snake and put it out and never really thought much about the > incident until now. > How could that have happened unless something was conscious of what was > going on down stairs? This consciousness was aware and even transmitted the > message to me. From this incident I can conclude that you and others who share > the same belief about the pervasive nature of consciousness are correct and I > have been wrong. > Thank you for your comments, your presence and your patience. > Warm regards, > michael > I would say this: there is only ONE life, ONE consciousness from which ALL comes from, returns, permeates and dwells. One Reality. However, our interpretation and evaluation, our colours and our flavours, are entirely self-predicated, opinionated, and well-versed and rehearsed in the canyons of our mind, in the echoes of our hearts. Love, Anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 In a message dated 10/22/2006 11:48:04 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, kailashana (AT) cox (DOT) net writes: , souldreamone wrote: > > > How exciting! > Your openness is an inspiration. > > Phil > > > > In a message dated 10/21/2006 9:36:14 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > aumshanti writes: > > > Dear Phil, > Your kind and patient interaction has sparked a memory in me and now I > believe that I can clearly see your conclusion about the nature of Consciousness. > > > __ > > > [] On Behalf Of souldreamone > Friday, October 20, 2006 7:59 PM > > Re: [ - Ramana Guru] The Buzzword is LIFE > > > > > > > > snip > > > > Phil: No, I'm suggesting that the 'you' you think you are arises and falls > within the Consciousness that You really are. When 'you' sleep, 'I' don't lose > consciousness. This is so not because there are two consciousnesses that > have nothing to do with each other, but because the Consciousness that we both > are, hasn't gone anywhere just because you're sleeping. Consciousness is not a > thing that can be divided into pieces parts; there's just Consciousness. > When you sleep, you create a dreamscape. That dreamscape dissolves when the > alarm clock goes off. Did your dream character die or lose consciousness, or does > it simply arise and fall within your human consciousness? > > > > > > I’ve had enough of theories in my life. > > > > > > Understandable. I'm afraid I have no facts to offer, not even the ones > you're no doubt quite certain of. > mb â€"I have been pondering your comments and they have sparked a memory in me > that I would like to share with you and the others on the list. > One night about twenty years ago I was sleeping. I was not dreaming; but I > was in deep sleep. Then an odd thing occurred. Without really waking me a > thought came into my mind: “There is a snake or snakes in the house.â€Â, > followed by this thought, “There is a snake or snakes coming into the houseâ€Â. > I was sound asleep and those thoughts came to me without really waking me. > And the experience was not like a dream; but there were only those brief > thoughts. > In the morning when I woke up, I prepared for meditation and then went > downstairs to the meditation room. I opened the door and there lying in the > middle of the floor was a young snake. It was lying in a relaxed type of coil and > it was looking in the direction of the table where I kept a few pictures. > Of course I immediately remembered the incident that had just happened in my > sleep and I was astounded. > I caught the snake and put it out and never really thought much about the > incident until now. > How could that have happened unless something was conscious of what was > going on down stairs? This consciousness was aware and even transmitted the > message to me. From this incident I can conclude that you and others who share > the same belief about the pervasive nature of consciousness are correct and I > have been wrong. > Thank you for your comments, your presence and your patience. > Warm regards, > michael > I would say this: there is only ONE life, ONE consciousness from which ALL comes from, returns, permeates and dwells. One Reality. However, our interpretation and evaluation, our colours and our flavours, are entirely self-predicated, opinionated, and well-versed and rehearsed in the canyons of our mind, in the echoes of our hearts. Love, Anna Thanks for dropping by, Anna. Just a general comment about colors and flavors. Some canyon echos are the finger pointing at the moon, others are the foot stepping in doggie doo. Mind can never see the Light, but if it's looking in the right direction, it can learn to stop creating shadows. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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