Digest Number 1282

October 18, 2006

Would any member kindly let me know the source of the sloka "janani janmabhumisca svargadapi gariyasi"? It is nowhere in Valmiki--this much is certain.. So where does it occur?

Pradip Bhattacharya

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Govt. of West Bengal

"I lift up my hands and I shout

But no one listens.

>From dharma come wealth and pleasure

Why is dharma not practised?"--Vyasa

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Re: Ten stages of Love(zRGgaara)

marina orelskaya

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Re: Ten stages of Love(zRGgaara)

Yasuhiro Okazaki

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Re: Ten stages of Love(zRGgaara)

Posted by: "marina orelskaya"

m_orelskaya

Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:39 am (PST)

Dear Mr. Yasuhiro Okazaki,

I have just finished my translation of the seventh

chapter of Sangitaratnakara into Russian.

And I believe that the source (or, at least, one of

the sources) for this system is Bharata¢s

Natyashastra. In the Chapter XXII (Parimal

Publications, 1994, 3rd volume), all these avastha-s

are described in great details (starting from verse

170). In other publications, I think, it is the

Chapter XXIV.

I also think that ¡kAmasUtre¢ in the text and

¡kAmaSAstre¢ in the commentary do not mean any

particular treatise, but the ¡science of love¢ in

general.

Anyway, this system, with some different avastha-s, is

also found in other texts on dance, f.e., in those

ascribed to Nandikeshvara.

Hope, this helps.

Marina Orelskaya

Dr. Marina Orelskaya

c/o University of Pune

India

--- Yasuhiro Okazaki <kappa-y (AT) NN (DOT) IIJ4U. OR.JP> wrote:

> Dear Members

>

> I am now reading the rasa-section of

> Sangitaratnakara of

> Sarngadeva(13c) . I met the following passage.

>

> kaamazaastre ca sRGgaaro dazaavasthaH

> prakiirtitaH/ VII 1411cd

> abhilaaSas tataz cintaanusmRtir guNakiirtanam/

> udvego 'tha vilaapaH syaad unmaado

> vyaadhisaMbhavaH/ /

> uDataa maraNaM ceti dazaavasthaaH

> prakiirtitaaH/ 1413ab

>

> Kunjuni Raja's translation:

>

> The Kaama Saastra has mentioned ten conditions in

> love. Longing, then

> Anziety, Recollection, Enumeration of (the beloved

> one's) Merits,

> Distress, Lamentation, Insanity, Sickness, Stupor

> and Death - these are

> the ten stages of love.

>

> The commentator, Kallinaatha also says that Kaama

> Saastra means

> Vaatsyaayna and so on. But I confused because I can

> not find the above

> or similar description in Kaamasuutra.

>

> If someone know the sources of the ten stages of

> love, which can be

> described in the above or similar way, please let me

> know.

>

> Best Regards

>

> Yasuhiro Okazaki

>

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Re: Ten stages of Love(zRGgaara)

Posted by: "Yasuhiro Okazaki"

kappa-y (AT) NN (DOT) IIJ4U.OR.JP

Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:22 pm (PST)

Dear Dr. Marina Orelskaya

Thank you for your advice. Your thinking is helpful for my work.

Thank you

Best Regards

Yasuhiro Okazaki

marina orelskaya wrote:

> Dear Mr. Yasuhiro Okazaki,

>

> I have just finished my translation of the seventh

> chapter of Sangitaratnakara into Russian.

> And I believe that the source (or, at least, one of

> the sources) for this system is Bharata¢s

> Natyashastra. In the Chapter XXII (Parimal

> Publications, 1994, 3rd volume), all these avastha-s

> are described in great details (starting from verse

> 170). In other publications, I think, it is the

> Chapter XXIV.

> I also think that ¡kAmasUtre¢ in the text and

> ¡kAmaSAstre¢ in the commentary do not mean any

> particular treatise, but the ¡science of love¢ in

> general.

> Anyway, this system, with some different avastha-s, is

> also found in other texts on dance, f.e., in those

> ascribed to Nandikeshvara.

> Hope, this helps.

> Marina Orelskaya

>

> Dr. Marina Orelskaya

> c/o University of Pune

> India

>

> --- Yasuhiro Okazaki <kappa-y (AT) NN (DOT) IIJ4U. OR.JP> wrote:

>

>> Dear Members

>>

>> I am now reading the rasa-section of

>> Sangitaratnakara of

>> Sarngadeva(13c) . I met the following passage.

>>

>> kaamazaastre ca sRGgaaro dazaavasthaH

>> prakiirtitaH/ VII 1411cd

>> abhilaaSas tataz cintaanusmRtir guNakiirtanam/

>> udvego 'tha vilaapaH syaad unmaado

>> vyaadhisaMbhavaH/ /

>> uDataa maraNaM ceti dazaavasthaaH

>> prakiirtitaaH/ 1413ab

>>

>> Kunjuni Raja's translation:

>>

>> The Kaama Saastra has mentioned ten conditions in

>> love. Longing, then

>> Anziety, Recollection, Enumeration of (the beloved

>> one's) Merits,

>> Distress, Lamentation, Insanity, Sickness, Stupor

>> and Death - these are

>> the ten stages of love.

>>

>> The commentator, Kallinaatha also says that Kaama

>> Saastra means

>> Vaatsyaayna and so on. But I confused because I can

>> not find the above

>> or similar description in Kaamasuutra.

>>

>> If someone know the sources of the ten stages of

>> love, which can be

>> described in the above or similar way, please let me

>> know.

>>

>> Best Regards

>>

>> Yasuhiro Okazaki

>>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __

>

> http://mail.

>

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