Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Michael says: Ego exists only in the eye of the beholder. In the Book of Genesis it is written "And the man and his wife were both naked and were not ashamed." Jesus says in the Book of Mathew "Do not judge lest you be judged. For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you." Bhagavad. Gita--6:32 "That yogi, O Arjuna, is regarded as the supreme, who judges pleasure or pain everywhere, by the same standard as he applies to himself." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 , "Michael Bowes" <aumshanti wrote: > > Michael says: > > Ego exists only in the eye of the beholder. > > > > > and all suffering is in the i of the beholder... > > > > > > > In the Book of Genesis it is written > > "And the man and his wife were both naked and were not ashamed." > > > > > > > > > > Jesus says in the Book of Mathew > > "Do not judge lest you be judged. For in the way you judge, you will be > judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you." > > > > > > > > Bhagavad. Gita--6:32 > > "That yogi, O Arjuna, is regarded as the supreme, who judges pleasure or > pain everywhere, by the same standard as he applies to himself." > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 , "yosyx" <yosyflug wrote: > > , "Michael Bowes" > <aumshanti@> wrote: > > > > Michael says: > > > > Ego exists only in the eye of the beholder. > > > > > > > > > > > > > and all suffering is in the i of the beholder... ....as is the end of all suffering in the i that is we...;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the Book of Genesis it is written > > > > "And the man and his wife were both naked and were not ashamed." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jesus says in the Book of Mathew > > > > "Do not judge lest you be judged. For in the way you judge, you > will be > > judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to > you." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhagavad. Gita--6:32 > > > > "That yogi, O Arjuna, is regarded as the supreme, who judges > pleasure or > > pain everywhere, by the same standard as he applies to himself." > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 > > > > Michael says: > > > > Ego exists only in the eye of the beholder. > > and all suffering is in the i of the beholder... > > > > > In the Book of Genesis it is written > > > > "And the man and his wife were both naked and were not ashamed." I think in the begining of our personal lives, our own genesis, we had innocence as do the animals and plants. Innocence may also be alluded to as the natural state. What changed us? The culprit is conditioning. I rest my case. Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 In a message dated 10/27/2006 2:53:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, richarkar writes: > > > > Michael says: > > > > Ego exists only in the eye of the beholder. > > and all suffering is in the i of the beholder... > > > > > In the Book of Genesis it is written > > > > "And the man and his wife were both naked and were not ashamed." I think in the begining of our personal lives, our own genesis, we had innocence as do the animals and plants. Innocence may also be alluded to as the natural state. What changed us? The culprit is conditioning. I rest my case. Richard The defense has a couple of questions, your honor. If we were to inquire further into who or what this conditionER is, we notice that all humans are on the receiving end of this conditioning, and so the conditioner is the Self. Everybody is acting, and has always acted, according to conditioning and is not really doing any conditioning. This human is not separate from the Self. The human is conscious by virtue of Consciousness, which is the Self, and functions according to the functioning of the Totality of Consciousness. Hencely, one might ask how the Self got itSelf into this perceived predicament. (It's not a predicament from the perspective of Self, but lets align with the human perspective for the purposes of this cross examination.) Imagine if you will, being born into this world with a blank slate for a mind. You know who You are, but You are not a thinking thing until You enter the dream world of mind. It's there You find the thinking faculty. Therefore, You are not thinking 'Oops, I'd better remember who I AM cause otherwise this adventure might really suck.' Rather, You find yourself inundated by sensory input that you know nothing about, and feelings that arise in this strange little body that are also quite unfamiliar. This is all very exciting and delightful and frightening and your attention is narrowly focused on this fascinating new experience. For now, there is no sense that anything that is going on is outside of what You are, and so in spite of the roller coaster feelings happening, there is no suffering. There is just delight and giggles and sadness and fear and crying and diaper rash and that's just what it is; a little 'people suit' that you seem to be experiencing all this through, but everything is an extension of what You are, and there is no sense of 'me' as opposed to 'mom' or 'light through yonder window'. Ahh, yes Martha, you were born enlightened. So, the million dollar question is, how long can this sensory bombardment and roller coaster feelings go on, with no ability to step outside of the experience and cognate on Your fate, before you begin to identify with the mind that is processing all this stuff? The answer seems to be roughly two years. Ahh, yes, the terrible two's. No wonder, one has just entered into hell and discovered.....'me'. Phil Magazine and Website is at community blog is at http://.net/blog/ "Love itself is the actual form of God." Sri Ramana In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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