Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Dear Utpal ji, Never mind if it is late. All of us have our own compulsions and responsibilities. What is more important is that you responded to give your opinion. That is what matters. Thanks for the same and thanks for answering my queries in detail. I am presenting more questions. This is not to counter your arguement of some such thing. These are genuine questions that bother me. 1. Even if I drop considering Paapakartari yoga for IL(which was my own assumption), still IL indicates poor finances (going by B V Raman) as 4 planets have bad placement w.r.t IL (for 16:30 birth time) 2. When looking at finances, the AL method and IL method give conflicting results whether you take 13:00 hrs or 16:30 hours as birth time. In such situations how to take a call either way? What are the considerations. Appreciate your response. Thanks, Krishna http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com --- Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote: > Dear Krishna Ji, > > Regret the delay in reply. > > In support of Kanya Lagna, I have also given one Horoscope > which you might have looked at. > > For Financial Matters, I am afraid, Indu Lagna is Only one > of the considerations. 11th from AL is one of the Main things > to look at besides other things. > > If we take "Karka" Lagna (s per 13.00 pm) then AL falls in > Taurus with Saturn in it. in that case 12th from AL becomes > much stronger than 11th from AL makes it Financially weak > chart. > > ------------ > Surce of INDU Lagna information is "Clue to Intertreting > Charts" by Gayatridevi Vasudev (Daughter of Late dr. Raman). > She has in details discussed the IL Technique. > > In that she has mentioned some principles with many charts > to judge the financial strength of a native. the essence of > that lies in Placement in IL & Aspect over it to judge the > financial strength. > > There is no mention of other placements w.r.t to IL or > Kartari yoga etc w.r.t it. > > one of the principle is that "If a powerful malefic in or > aspecting Indul Lagna - Very rich ---> Amitabh Bachhan's chart > is the example to support the view. he has IL in Taurus with > Lagna lord Saturn (Natural Malefic & Powerful as occupying > kendra and friendly sign) occupying it may be one of the > factors conffering great riches on him. > > Now identicle example is of Sachin Tendulkar. Like Amitabh, > he too have IL in Taurus having 5th lord Saturn occupying it. > > Both the above examples perfectly satisfy the Rule for IL > which i mentioned above. > > rest you can see from the book. > > Personally I have no opinion on IL interpretation as i have > not looked at it much to form any opinion on IL. I mentioned > you the above information as you discussed about it and asked > for the source. > > Thanks & warm regards, > > Utpal Pathak > Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 > wrote: > Dear Utpalji, > > Thanks for the clarifications and inputs. I buy your logic on > Sachin being a shy person indicates Virgo Lagna. However, I am > looking for other aspects that should match as well. > > I use Indu Lagna while judging finances. You have rightly > pointed out that IL falls in Taurus with Saturn in it (for > 4:30pm being the birth time). I notice that that IL is under > Paapakartari. Will it not counter the indications of good > wealth > seen otherwise? > > Also, can you please point me to the source where it says that > IL with unafflicted malefic indicates great wealth? I am > particularly curious about this as I have lone Saturn in my IL > as well 8-) > > Sri. B V Raman says that - "If Dhana Lagna is occupied by pure > malefics, such as the Sun, Saturn or Mars, the person will > have > moderate wealth". He also adds that - "...the planets situated > in 3,6,8,12 from this special Dhana Lagna will destroy wealth > and give unnecessary expenese and losses". In Sachin's chart, > we have Moon, Rahu in the 8th and Sun and Venus in the 12th > from > IL. Hence, his Rahu dasha should have been particularly bad > w.r.t finances. And, as four planets are in inimical > locations, > indicates poor finances in general. However, in reality it is > not so as his Rahu dasha started in 1996. I suppose he made > good > money during this period. > > Please clarify. > > Regards, > Krishna > > --- utpal pathak wrote: > > > || Jay Gurudev || > > > > Namskar Krishna ji, > > > > I have just now re-entered the VA List after almost a year. > I > > saw > > this message of yours. probably you have noted down the > timing > > of > > Tendulkar from my old message which is i forwarded to VA > list > > before > > i left the list in last Novemeber. > > > > Now I am still sticking to "Kanya Lagna" becuase the reason > > already > > i have provided in the other list. > > > > Now answering to your dowbt about his wealth, I can provide > > following justification considering Kanya Lagna -- > > > > 1) First & foremost is 11th from AL. Everybody is well aware > > of > > wealth must also be seen from 11th from AL. Note that Sun > with > > extra- > > ordinary strength (Deep Exaltation) is palced in 11th > coupled > > with > > Venus. vensu is always prised for wealth hence there are 2 > > strong > > planets in 11th from AL. > > > > 2) Good wealth can also be gained if Banifics specially Guru > > or Moon > > are 7th from AL. Kanya lagna also satisfies this condition. > > > > 3) 2nd cum 9th lord Venus is placed in own Nakshatra and > with > > very > > powerful Sun Looks at his own house (Dhana Sthana) aspected > by > > > > exalted mars from 5th house. Planet looking at own house > does > > strengthen it's own bhava & after all experience has shown > > that > > Venus does give good material results even if placed in 8th > or > > 12th > > bhava. > > > > 4) 8th house in this case gives beneficial effects instead > of > > giving > > malefic effects thus giving him wealth in torrent. > > > > 5) INDU LAGNA - Indu Lagna falls in 9th house with "Saturn" > > only. > > Learned savants say that if only one Strong (Natural)Malefic > > is > > placed in Indu Lagna without affliction, it gives Great > > wealth. Here > > the condition is truely present. > > > > Having said all these i shall except other lagna if > convinced > > with > > the logic. > > > > Astrologically Yours, > > > > Utpal Pathak > > > > vedic astrology, Krishnamurthy > > Seetharama > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Anuarug, > > > > > > You have said that: > > > > > > "But the Rashi chart, and knowing it is probably the > correct > > > chart, suprises me with what it has delivered". > > > > > > You might be correct in suspecting the correctness of Rasi > > > chart. I have got another birth time for Sachin, though I > > don't > > > remember the source. I had noted it down in my database > some > > > time ago based on a mail from one of the members. I have > the > > > birth time as 13:00 hrs. This gives Kataka Lagna. > > > > > > When I studied this chart from Indu Lagna, it matches with > > his > > > excellent financial status. However, 14:25 time does not > > give me > > > similar results. I have not studeied the chart in detail > for > > > other aspects. > > > > > > Do you think you would be more comfortable with 13:00 hrs > as > > > birth time? > === message truncated === Regards, Krishna http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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